FSF Criticises Ubuntu For Dropping Grub 2 For Secure Boot 296
sfcrazy writes "The Free Software Foundation (FSF) has published a whitepaper suggesting how free operating systems can deal with UEFI secure boot. In the whitepaper, the foundation has criticized the approach Canonical/Ubuntu has taken to deal with the problem. The paper reads: 'It is not too late to change. We urge Ubuntu and Canonical to reverse this decision, and we offer our help in working through any licensing concerns. We also hope that Ubuntu, like Fedora, will actively support users generating and using their own signing keys to run and share any versions of the software, and not require users to install a key from Canonical to get the full benefit of their operating system.'"
Re:I suppose the ultimate solution is... (Score:5, Informative)
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they may take away the capability to disable it entirely
They already are taking it away on ARM based systems. "On an ARM system, it is forbidden to enable Custom Mode. ... Disabling Secure MUST NOT be possible on ARM systems" (page 122 of Windows Hardware Certification Requirements [microsoft.com])
Re:They also criticized Fedora.. (Score:5, Informative)
AMD commited last year for all their products to support Core Boot:
http://blogs.amd.com/work/2011/05/05/an-update-on-coreboot/ [amd.com]
Re:I suppose the ultimate solution is... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:I suppose the ultimate solution is... (Score:4, Informative)
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Re:people who use ubuntu are linux posers anyways (Score:4, Informative)
Linux has gone mainstream on the Mobile devices... GNU/Linux hasn't.
Linux is the kernel.
GNU/Linux, Android are the Operating Systems that use the kernel.
Re:people who use ubuntu are linux posers anyways (Score:5, Informative)
The biggest is the fragmentation, of well, everything. The UI is different for every distro, every version, and every update
Only someone who hasn't done years of work on Microsoft systems could seriously claim this as a drawback for Linux. How many different GUI toolkits in its various OS versions is Microsoft up to now? 4? 5? It probably depends on how you count...
Re:The FSF (Score:5, Informative)
Microsoft has been a hard-driver behind ALL of this.
And you'll find that promoters have way, way more say than most Contributors, once you get inside these groups.
Generally they're all assholes when it comes to restricting users. Microsoft just happens to be an 800lb gorilla.
Indeed, a chain secured by a lock you won't have the key to.
FOSS is explicitly being excluded in these situations. All of these "solutions" require some 3rd party to be trusted and for the entire platform to be geared to work AGAINST the user, who is treated like the enemy rather than the party to be protected.
Of course not, but that would imply that 'trusted computing' put the user in a 'trusted position.' The vast majority of current applications do not. The user is completely untrusted and given a little sandbox to piddle around in.
Or the fact that a FOSS solution that is trusted is pretty much 100% antithetical to the concept behind FOSS, especially when you've effectively TiVOized everything by locking it up and not giving the user the key.