Ale To the Chief: White House Releases Beer Recipe 340
wiredmikey writes "Sam Kass, White House Assistant Chef and the Senior Policy Advisor for Healthy Food Initiatives, after much buzz, today released the recipe for White House Honey Ale and White House Honey Porter, two brews made right on site at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. According to Kass, the White House Honey Brown Ale is the first alcohol brewed or distilled on the White House grounds, as far as they know. "George Washington brewed beer and distilled whiskey at Mount Vernon and Thomas Jefferson made wine but there's no evidence that any beer has been brewed in the White House. (Although we do know there was some drinking during prohibition)," Kass wrote in a blog post. The recipe can be found here along with a short video 'Inside The White House Beer Brewing' which shows the brewing in process. Your tax dollars hard at work yet again!"
MMMMMMMMM (Score:5, Interesting)
Taste the freedom
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Yeah, let's see the White House hydroponic set up in the grow room. Nothing but the best kind for these guys
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Yeah, let's see the White House hydroponic set up in the grow room. Nothing but the best kind for these guys
What would be the point? Everyone knows the president doesn't inhale.
No... you're thinking of the FIRST first black president.
Re:MMMMMMMMM (Score:5, Informative)
You're thinking of Clinton. Obama's version was "of course I inhaled."
There's actually some evidence that Obama exaggerated his own use of illegal drugs during his college years. In any case, he's now known as the kind of guy who leaves the bachelor party when the strippers arrive — something he actually did once.
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That's incredibly disappointing, my esteem for Obama has been decimated
Oh, come on, sweetie, there will be many more bachelor parties, your job as a stripper is safe.
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Taste the freedom
But first, I want verifiable pedigrees for each ingredient, right Sheriff?
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Taste the freedom
Sour grape flavoured from Slashdot?
This recipe was fulfilling a promise made in a Reddit AMA by Obama.
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/z1c9z/i_am_barack_obama_president_of_the_united_states/c60mom8 [reddit.com]
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Seriously, IPA is predominantly a recent fad. The reason India Pale Ales were created was so that they would survive the trip from Britain to India without refrigeration. Hops traditionally were used as a preservative - in fact, many beers brewed for immediate consumption didn't use them at all. Hops became more common for flavoring beer in the 1800s.
Oh, and to the pine needle flavor below, that was not an uncommon flavoring. There are still Belgian beers that have been brewed for hundreds of years that use
Tax dollars? Not so much (Score:5, Informative)
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Now, the video and the blog are taxpayer funded, so there's that.
Ho ho ho, we've got him now.
Impeach!
Re:Tax dollars? Not so much (Score:5, Insightful)
I'd rather my tax dollars went to beer breweing anyway. It's either that or some military money pit facade.
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I'd rather my tax dollars went to beer breweing anyway. It's either that or some military money pit facade.
A minor issue, but that's a very dangerous, false (and common) dichotomy.
Unless this is literally coming out of the military budget, any such expense comes out of the additional money that will be borrowed somewhere. Without a zero-sum budget, there are no balancing trade-offs forcing spending less on B because we spent more on A.
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"Still, you'd have to admit that murder is more of a problem than theft. No? Then let's turn the entire police force into homicide detectives and catch nothing but murderers all day."
Also don't worry too much about it (Score:4, Informative)
Swedish Vin & Sprit was also built with tax money.
It served us good but was sold in 2008 to Pernod Ricard (for 55 billion SEK = 8.31 billion USD with todays exchange rate, actually Wikipedia says 5.6 billion euro so I guess the SEK value was someones conversion.)
Their most well known brand is/was likely Absolut.
Nor should anyone care (Score:5, Insightful)
The President is an expensive office. There is a shit ton of money spent on keeping the person in it safe, happy, connected, getting them where they need to go, and so on. The cost of brewing some beer wouldn't even stack up to the salary of a single Secret Service agent, never mind the cost of running something like Air Force One.
There is no real way around it either. Security costs are going to be extremely high because the President is a very high profile target. So you need good security keeping them safe. Some might argue that a lot of the pomp and circumstance should be cut out which would save a bunch but then you have to remember that the President is not just the head of government but also the chief of state, they are the head diplomat. All that pomp and circumstance plays a very useful role in international relations.
So frankly they can charge the cost of brewing beer to the taxpayers, I don't mind at all. It is an expensive office to maintain and there really isn't any other way it can be so long as the US maintains its place of prominence among nations.
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Actually, the White House has three kitchens, an executive chef, four sous chefs and an executive *pastry* chef (the current officeholder is the author of "Desserts for Dummies" -- make of that what you will, but he *was* hired in the Bush Administration). The White House has a large kitchen and wait staff as well -- all to host state dinners that will blow jaded diplomats' socks off. Since the White House is in effect the world's largest three-star restaurant, and most of that capability goes unused most
tax dollars are not involved (Score:5, Insightful)
The brewing equipment and expenses were paid for by the Obamas personally. The same for all White House meals (I mean the POTUS family's personal consumption, I don't know about state dinners and such): their cost is paid from the POTUS salary. The POTUS is paid pretty well by most people's standards so s/he can afford it.
See: Reuters [reuters.com], "Taxpayers are not footing the bill for the beer, as both the cost of the equipment and the cost of brewing the beer is paid for by the Obamas personally, the official said."
Re:tax dollars are not involved (Score:4, Insightful)
Guy literally has the most stressful job on the planet.
I think we should at least pay for his dinners.
Re:tax dollars are not involved (Score:5, Funny)
Re:tax dollars are not involved (Score:5, Informative)
Actually, the first family only pays the grocery bills. Taxpayers cover the cost of preparing the food.
Well we do, in a manner of speaking (Score:2)
After all, the President's salary is paid by taxpayers. Now yes, it is kind of silly to take out grocery costs and so on but then the President doesn't need his salary anyhow. It isn't like he's going to run off and spend it on a car or something, what with all the official cars that he really has no option but to use. In terms of after the presidency, the public speaking events and so on pay way more than the presidency itself ever did.
I suppose the theory is to keep him from going buck wild and ordering B
Your tax dollars hard at work yet again! (Score:3, Insightful)
Yeah, well, compared to the wars, prohibition, TSA, etc., it's money well spent.
Hey! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Hey! (Score:5, Informative)
Actually, the Mormon Word of Wisdom only forbids specific stimulating and intoxicating beverages, not alcohol or caffeine as such. Official LDS doctrine uniformly condemns alcohol, but they don't get uptight about the odd caffeinated cola.
Beside the point. Regardless of beverage, Romney can't be seen to treat Obama as anything other than Satan Incarnate. Notice how all the speeches at the recent convention were about how uncool BO is;
Indeed, the whole GOP brand is about condemning liberalism in any shape or form. Nancy Pelosi is evil. Harry Reid is evil. Liberals hate America. That's been their whole brand for the last decade or so.
This is a bad thing. Democracy only works when nominal enemies look past their differences and come up with solutions both sides can live with. If we don't outgrow this holier-than-thou crap soon, we're in big trouble.
Re:Hey! (Score:5, Informative)
I'm going to have to disagree with that one. A bunch of old mainframe guys I know worked for Control Data Corporation in the 80s. One of their big customers was the LDS for their massive genealogy project. Most of them spent a good deal of time at LDS offices in SLC, where they clearly recall having to sneak caffeinated coke from the local 7-11 inside a thermos.
I'm not an expert on what their holy book says or doesn't say, I can only say that LDS managers back then got bent out of shape over caffeine.
No caffeine at BYU (Score:2, Informative)
Gotta go off campus several blocks to the 7-11/Circle K. Significant disciplinary offense to get caught bringing it on campus.
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No doubt many Mormons are stricter than the official rules. I've known Mormons who avoided caffeine in any form. It makes sense that if coffee and tea are unMormon, other caffeinated beverages are too. But here's the official LDS word: caffeinated soda is kosher [sltrib.com].
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Read about a third of the way down. This is a response to last weeks Rock Center piece on the Church, but it still answers the question you are trying to answer.
http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/mormonism-news--getting-it-right-august-29 [mormonnewsroom.org]
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Yeah, the Demos have a lot to answer for. But I would submit that they can't begin to compete with the GOP for simple "my way or the highway" assholedness.
For one thing, there's no left-wing equivalent of the Tea Party. Yeah, the Occupy Movement can match them in terms of extreme ideology and political temper tantrums. But Occupy refuses to have anything to do with formal politics, and thus has no influence over the Democratic party. As opposed to the Tea Party, which pretty much set the agenda for the GOP
Re:Hey! (Score:5, Insightful)
Oh, spare us. After eight years of liberals calling Bush every name in the book and inventing a few new ones too, you have the gall to blame Republicans for condemning liberalism? Who do you think you're trying to fool, besides yourself?
False equivalence. [wikipedia.org] Bush didn't have people demanding to see his birth certificate, and then denying its legitimacy once they saw it. Bush didn't have a congress whose Democratic members vowed to make him a one-term president by any means necessary. Bush didn't have a senate whose Democratic members filibustered more (by a huge factor) than any other senate in history. Bush didn't inherit a financial crisis created by his predecessor (quite the opposite in fact.) I could go on but what's the point.
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So not only did we have the possibility of Obama being born in Kenya, but he made that claim himself at times. So why again, was it a bad idea to demand his birth certificate?
The thing I find remarkable about Obama is how, even by the already lofty standards of politicians, pathological and self-centered he appears thro
Re:Hey! (Score:4, Informative)
It's worth recalling here that Obama used to be a birther himself and claimed [breitbart.com] he was born in Kenya for the purpose of selling some of his books (at least one of which he backed out of).
Wrong. [snopes.com] Obama didn't claim he was born in Kenya. The brochure you and Breitbart are talking about was created by Obama's literary agent with bios of several of its clients. The "born in Kenya" part was a fact-checking error by Miriam Goderich, then an assistant at the agency. Goderich herself admits to the error.
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Bush started two wars based on lies that cost trillions of dollars and killed hundreds of thousands of people. Obama hasn't done anything remotely that harmful. Simple facts.
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With a twist of money.
Some people like to brew beer as a hoby, so what? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Some people like to brew beer as a hoby, so wha (Score:5, Funny)
Good beer, though, that's something we can all agree on. Well except Mitt Romney. Mormons aren't allowed to have beer. Or coffee. How you're supposed to go about having 5 wives without coffee is beyond me. I'm pretty sure you can't get through 4 years of a presidency without dropping the F bomb at least a couple times, as well, so good luck with that, Mormon-boy. Maybe collecting dildos and leaving them in random places around the White House would help.
Re:Some people like to brew beer as a hoby, so wha (Score:5, Funny)
Somehow I don't think you're ever going to be President.
Re:Some people like to brew beer as a hoby, so wha (Score:5, Funny)
... if the president spent his money collecting stamps or collecting guitars I doubt you would you beat him up over it.
Are you kidding? This President has been condemned as "elitist" for his choice of condiments [mediamatters.org].
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I also distinctly remember them complaining when the Obamas grew some arugula in their gardens. Apparently growing a lettuce commonly used to top soups and pizzas and baked potatoes makes them elitist snobs. And don't forget how they eviscerated Kerry over his windsurfing (an elitist hobby!).
It's effective. Scream and holler about how awful someone is every day, and eventually the hatred starts to rub off on the public.
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... if the president spent his money collecting stamps or collecting guitars I doubt you would you beat him up over it.
Are you kidding? This President has been condemned as "elitist" for his choice of condiments [mediamatters.org].
Yeah, by a couple of right-wing whackjobs that don't deserve the label 'Republican'. Jesus Christ, if they gotta try crucifying him for eating a fucking hamburger he paid for out of his own fucking pocket, the far-gone Right has serious fucking problems. Course, go after their guy and criticize every fucking move he makes and you're un-American.
FWIW, I don't put ketsup on my hamburgers either. Ketsup belongs on french fries goddammit, just like GAWD ordained in the fucking Bible.
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There was more to Poupongate than a couple of whackjobs. Lots of pundits were making noise. Among the leaders were Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh, both people GOP politicians are loath to offend.
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Link to FOIA Request for Beer Recipe (Score:3)
HuffPo: White House Beer Recipe: Freedom Of Information Act Request Filed For Obama's Brew [huffingtonpost.com]
As far as hobbies go (Score:4, Interesting)
As far as hobbies go this one is pretty cool and even a bit nerdy. I've always wanted to brew my own beer, or make my own tequila and I don't even drink.
Re:As far as hobbies go (Score:5, Informative)
Go for it!
I'm a former IT nerd turned nerdy brewer via homebrewing. The very basics are easy: you dump sugar into water, raise it to a boil, add hops, continue boiling for an hour, chill, dump the sugar water (wort) into a sanitized bucket, add yeast, wait a couple weeks, bottle with a small amount of sugar (for fizz)
And things go from there.
Some yeast strains work best below room temp, some at, some above (i.e., temperature control).
If you move to using base ingredients (malted grains) instead of sugars, you'll need more gadgets (malt mill, pump, thermometer, etc).
You can add or subtract flavours by using different yeast strains (usually phenols and esters), which moves into yeast culturing (chemistry and biology).
FWIW, all in, I can do something like Obama's beer in 3 hours. And in 2 or 3 weeks, be drinking something pretty decent.
And if I can make good beer, anyone can.
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Well yeah. This dude is pretty much the most nerdy POTUS ever. When he was a kid, he collected Spider-Man comic books. When he first met Leonard Nimoy, he gave him a Vulcan salute. Nerd, nerd, nerd.
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Brewing is easy. I make wine all the time out of any fruit or vegetable that I come into possession of in large enough quantities. I find beer trickier, but I think that's just because I'm a picky ale drinker.
Distilling, on the other hand, is not (that's what you'd need to do to make a tequila). It's pretty dangerous in terms of exploding stills, pretty dangerous in terms of poisonous final product, and it's also probably illegal depending on your jurisdiction (in the UK, you need a licence). That's not to
FINALLY, Slashdot! (Score:5, Insightful)
We like to complain about which stories get posted, and which don't... butI think we can all agree - this qualifies as stuff that matters.
Free beer as in free beer (Score:5, Funny)
If they are going to serve beer in the Whitehouse it's much cheaper to brew it themselves then to buy it. About 30 cents for a 750 mil bottle holding the equivalent of two cans. They also don't have to pay the extortionate government sales tax on alcohol. Hey hang on...
http://taxfoundation.org:81/article/state-sales-gasoline-cigarette-and-alcohol-tax-rates-state-2000-2010 [taxfoundation.org]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homebrewing [wikipedia.org]
Beer & Wine Are Just Fine... (Score:4, Informative)
If home-made beer and wine are just fine in this day and age, why does distilling your own whiskey for your own use get you time in the federal prison system? I just want my "Awesome-Swill-From-Dawsonville" party-liquor each New Years without worrying about the BATFE...
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Because:
1) Stills can and do explode. In my part of the UK, illegal moonshine was a bit of a trend in my grandparent's generation, and they've got many a tale of exploding farm sheds.
2) Because it's easy to accidentally make poison if you don't do it just right (by brewing a high quantity of methanol or other non-edible alcohols instead of ethanol).
3) It's far more valuable when you're done, and you're less able to consume your entire output without outside help (selling home-brew is always illegal in the U
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If beer and wine are just fine in this day and age, why does growing the much less harmful Cannabis for your own use get you time in the federal prison system?
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I trust people with licenses.
I'm just funny that way.
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Actually, it's pretty hard to brew beer or mead that can actually hurt you. Usually the mistakes just end up tasting like shit.
Reddit the other night (Score:3)
Is this as per Obama's response to his Reddit appearance [reddit.com] the other night?
Fishing for Tweets and Likes? (Score:3, Interesting)
Where there are no burning issues at hand, human interest stories are a good tactic to keep a candidate in the news or at least in Twitterverse. Expect to learn more trivial, but harmless stuff like these "brewed" by the campaign strategists who work behind the scenes.
Somehow this only convinces me that come November a new occupant will fill that hopefully not empty Chair at the Oval Office.
Amazing (Score:2, Funny)
Amazing what the government is able to accomplish now that they've got the budget balanced and a job for everyone that so desires.
Beginner recipie (Score:4, Informative)
All of the extract and pellets make this a real beginners brew. They should really step up to all grain brewing. Much better flavor.
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I've use some real basic equipment to do all grain brews. Just a 5 gallon water cooler and hot water PVC pipe. I put the grain in the cooler and add hot 170 F water to end up with a 155 F mash. Let it sit for an hour or so then drain off the wort until it isn't cloudy. Then put the cloudy wort back though the grains to filter. Then sparge with 150 F water.
Your don't professional extraction but grain is pretty cheap and the flavor is great.
Free as in ... (Score:3)
At least this ought to help BHO understand the difference of Free as in Beer.
where's the american ingredients? (Score:2, Interesting)
Perusing the ingredients:
Munich (germany) malt
Hallertauer (again, germany) hops
Kent Golding (UK) hops
Fuggles (UK) hops
Nottingham and Windsor dry yeasts are from Danstar (Canada) and mimic UK strains
I'm surprised they didn't make something with west coast hops & some of the liquid yeasts. The US keepst fantastic yeast banks at White Labs (California/Colorado) and Wyeast (Oregon).
Thank you Jimmy Carter (Score:5, Informative)
The leetist and best president ever!
Jimmy Carter, 39th President of the United States, signed the bill, H.R. 1337, into law in October 1978 legalizing home brewing [wikipedia.org]. Bill 1337, can't make this stuff up folks. :-)
An extract recipe? (Score:2)
How very noob.
how radical is that? (Score:5, Funny)
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I've met plenty of Muslims who pray 5 times a day and then go out drinking at night. /the conspiracy minded would probably argue that Obama is drinking alcohol in order to trick the American people
Some of them actually felt bad about their hypocrisy.
Now, if we can just get .... (Score:3, Insightful)
Really? (Score:3)
Sam Kass, White House Assistant Chef and the Senior Policy Advisor for Healthy Food Initiatives, after much buzz, today released the recipe for White House Honey Ale and White House Honey Porter...
I see what you did there.
Beer is good food! (Score:3)
Alas, as a Libertarian, Mssr. Obama's socialist leanings disallow me from voting for him, but I applaud his choice of quality beverage. Perhaps a good pint of Pliney, or a Firestone Parabola, or Black Butte XXIV, will clear his mind. I'd be happy to volunteer a pint of my excellent Saison or Belgian Quad if it will end America's perpetual war on "whoever we're trying to kill at the moment:"
(Have no fear, I have no such delusions that Mssr. Romney will be swayed by a friendly magic pint - mores the pity...)
Loads of positive comments here (Score:2)
Very unexpected for a typically pessimistic crowd. Definitely bookmarking this thread for comparison when a Republican President posts his putting tips or something. I'll bet /. would pounce on that, but you never know... you guys have surprised me before.
Re:Just don't ask about Gitmo (Score:5, Informative)
Obama promised a surge into Afghanistan. He promised an eventual pullout from Iraq, and it looks like he's following through - on Bush's schedule.
Congress shut down Obama's attempts to close Gitmo and forbade him from using any federal funds to do just about anything with it. While I wish he'd tried harder, he did attempt it. I'd be more concerned about the continued NSA wiretapping.
The President is not a dictator. People tend to radically overestimate how much the President can really do.
And yes, the same is true for Bush. Bush couldn't have gone to war without Congress. He couldn't have passed the Patriot Act without Congress. He couldn't have passed No Child Left Behind without Congress. He couldn't have racked up massive deficits without Congress. Heck, even today, virtually our entire deficit (that comes from government policy and not the recession) comes from the Bush tax cuts Congress (including Paul Ryan) passed and the wars.
Re:Just don't ask about Gitmo (Score:5, Informative)
Dang Slashdot without an edit button. I meant to include this link:
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/US-Economy/PublishingImages/20120229_EssentialEcon9.jpg [treasury.gov]
It shows the sources of the current budget deficits. Keep in mind Paul Ryan, famed serious "fiscal conservative," voted for every single thing in green.
Re:Just don't ask about Gitmo (Score:5, Insightful)
Oh, give it a rest. You've been reciting the same Obama-bashing crap over and over for 4 years now, we've all heard it a dozen times. This conversation is about beer.
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I think Bush definitely could have gone to war without Congress. He would have suffered a bit of criticism, but he could have done it. Remember, technically he never went to war, he just deployed troops; we haven't declared war on anybody since WWII. Both of the two Bushes each tried to go to war without Congress, then Congress complained, so they took a side-trip to Congress on the way to war. That was perfunctory of them, but nobody would have stopped them if they hadn't done so. Don't you think?
I think O
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The President can not deploy troops for more than 90 days without Congress approving it. So even when it isn't called war, the President can't go to war with a country without Congress backing it and financing it.
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Congress shut down Obama's attempts to close Gitmo and forbade him from using any federal funds to do just about anything with it. While I wish he'd tried harder, he did attempt it. I'd be more concerned about the continued NSA wiretapping. The President is not a dictator. People tend to radically overestimate how much the President can really do.
He could sit on his hands and not approve any legislation until it was shut down. Perhaps he would get overridden from time to time, but it would send a clear message.
Here's an idea, Congress not passing any legislation in protest of the President not approving any legislation!
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Article I, Section 7 of the Constitution: [wikisource.org]
If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.
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Just don't ask about Gitmo
Are they brewing beer at Gitmo as well? (is waterboarding just "soaking the malts"?)
Mmmm beerboarding.
Re:Yep, its election time (Score:5, Insightful)
you are missing the point.
it seems he's calling indirect attention to the mormon guy who is running as his opponent.
how many people can relate to those who are 100.0% against alcohol drinking?
seems a smart move on obama's part. and I kind of agree: I don't trust anyone who takes a prohibitionist view on what most of us think is perfectly fine behavior!
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The prohibition I can handle, but a guy that wears magic underpants in control of the world's largest nuclear arsenal give me the heeb jeebs.
Re:Yep, its election time (Score:4, Insightful)
how many people can relate to those who are 100.0% against alcohol drinking?
Man, they believe Jesus visited the Americas, and when they die they'll get to (literally) fucking populate a planet (if they're the chosen ones)... And not drinking beer is the "weird" part? Uhm. I would have point out the Christians believe in Sky Wizards and Magic Zombies, but the Mormons do too. Mormon = Xenu + Jesus (where you get to be Xenu). For the record, I'm not picking on Mormans or other religious folk. I take all religions as seriously as any other; Take Greek Mythology for example: Where's the candidate for Athena? Aphrodite? Ah, Now there's a candidate I could really get behind.
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"Look at me, i drink beer just like joe sixpack. Vote for me"
disgusting pandering.
Close. The two elections before last were "Look at me, I'm an ignorant fool just like joe-bob sixpack. Vote for me"
This time it's "Look at me, I'm enjoy a good microbrewed ale like any normal, thinking person would. Vote for me"
Re:Yep, its election time (Score:4, Interesting)
Seriously? Dood can't brew beer in his spare time without it being politically motivated?
Timing might be politically motivated for releasing the recipe, but I highly doubt the beer is.
Re:Yep, its election time (Score:4, Insightful)
Still waiting for President Obama to show up to a convention wearing Converses and empty Rayban frames while he gives a speech ironically.
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Not as alien as the Kolob dude
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How about "And what would a muslim want beer for, anyway?"
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They do actually...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/06/23/secret-life-white-house-bees [whitehouse.gov]
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I'll be the last to deny the health benefits of pasteurization. But, as I grew up on a dairy farm, we drank raw milk all the time (cause it would be kind of dumb to go buy milk at the store when you have a large supply at your home). Having grown up on that stuff, I cannot stand the taste of pasteurized milk. There is a very significant difference in flavor between the two, and the pasteurized stuff literally makes me gag. When I was a kid I almost made myself throw up trying to force myself to drink the st
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At least he fills his spare time with something reasonably harmless like making some homebrew. It could be worse.
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