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Iran Claims To Have Downed Another US Drone 219

AmiMoJo writes "The Iranian military says it has captured an unmanned U.S. drone aircraft in its airspace over Gulf waters. The Revolutionary Guards said they had brought down a ScanEagle — one of the smaller, less sophisticated drones employed by the Americans. The U.S. said it was looking into the reports." (The U.S. response so far, also reported by Reuters and others, seems to be "We're not missing any drones.")
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Iran Claims To Have Downed Another US Drone

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  • by ShanghaiBill ( 739463 ) on Tuesday December 04, 2012 @11:22AM (#42179391)

    Oh, please. The US may lie in the press, but it's nothing compared to what North Korea does. Our media doesn't say shit like ...

    Decades ago, when I was a kid, the US press printed similar outrageous statements about China. Then I grew up, I learned how to read and write Chinese, and I lived in China for several years. Out of curiosity, I went back and read some of those reports in the original Chinese. What they actually said was NOT what the US press reported, but instead was the use of metaphor or some idiom like "raining cats and dogs" that was never supposed to be taken literally. The US press was twisting the meaning of the words to intentionally make the Chinese look stupid.

    I do not speak or understand Korean, but I strongly suspect that that same thing is happening. So your example of the Koreans lying is probably really an example of the USA lying about what the Koreans are really saying.

  • by Seeteufel ( 1736784 ) on Tuesday December 04, 2012 @11:37AM (#42179601) Homepage
    Of course. Still the North Korean regime is outrageous. What you find stunning are the American double standards: The President publicly admits that they have a Killer drone program to assasinate persons in third countries (without permission of the third country). That would be clear case of state terrorism and I would expect the President to be taken to the International Court of Justice as a killer or at least into custody. But he doesn't even have to resign. There are no consequences. They are very public about that. No shame, no doubts. Where is the institutional resistance? Absent.

    Now, the longer perspective is that this is peanuts compared to the bombine and human suffering in past (undeclared) wars. Probably it would not even be possible anymore to imagine a war in the proportions of Vietnam these days. Targeted drone killings sound more humane than Dresden and Hiroshima. Those who carry the crimes out say it was an order. And when someone bombs their base he becomes a "terrorist". That is the whole hypocrisy. So maybe the standards and principles are wrong, not the practise.

  • by cusco ( 717999 ) <brian@bixby.gmail@com> on Tuesday December 04, 2012 @03:18PM (#42182805)
    A Soviet general in the '70s told Farley Mowat (paraphrased), "The difference between our propaganda and yours is that we don't believe ours."

"The eleventh commandment was `Thou Shalt Compute' or `Thou Shalt Not Compute' -- I forget which." -- Epigrams in Programming, ACM SIGPLAN Sept. 1982