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Firefox 18 Launches With Faster IonMonkey-Enabled JavaScript, Built-In PDF Viewe 220

An anonymous reader writes "Mozilla on Tuesday officially launched Firefox 18 for Windows, Mac, Linux, and Android. The improvements include a new JavaScript compiler, a built-in PDF viewer, as well as Retina and touch support. The release notes are available, as is a list of changes for devs."
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Firefox 18 Launches With Faster IonMonkey-Enabled JavaScript, Built-In PDF Viewer

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  • Quit whining (Score:5, Interesting)

    by mcrbids ( 148650 ) on Tuesday January 08, 2013 @03:19PM (#42522499) Journal

    Honestly, your whining is counterproductive.

    Firefox is following a standard open-source style policy of release early, release often [] and as a vendor following this exact mantra, I see that although I do hear a lot of whining from some of our (typically more backward) customers, we are able to evolve to meet new needs better than our competitors which has allowed us to grow at a sustained rate better than 50% per year for years on end.

    Many of our meetings with clients start with whines about how they have trouble keeping up with all the changes, followed up by hours of specifying new changes and additions that they'd like, closing with my pointing out that all the changes that they requested will be released as developed and them having to keep up with them as they are made available.

    Perhaps it's necessary for some people to see improvements in a bad light, but if you really don't like it... leave! Go use some product that doesn't update at all if you want. I hear you can still find Firefox 3.6 binaries if you look hard enough. Even Chrome updates constantly.

  • Re:I wonder... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by ShaunC ( 203807 ) on Tuesday January 08, 2013 @03:23PM (#42522553)

    I wonder if it's going to override that setting when it updates itself.

    Doesn't seem that way. I had the Foxit Reader plugin installed, and after upgrading, PDFs still opened in Foxit. Quite frankly I can't figure out where the built-in PDF reader even is; I uninstalled Foxit and if I try to load a PDF, Firefox now just prompts me to save the file.

  • Re:Honestly? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by gregmac ( 629064 ) on Tuesday January 08, 2013 @03:51PM (#42522969) Homepage

    I've been using Chrome for well over a year, and have had this discussion many times. Yes, Chrome uses more ram. But I can close a bunch of tabs, and it frees it up. Firefox, every time I try it and despite that it's memory management is "getting better", still eventually uses several GB of ram and requires that I completely exit and restart before it's freed.

    My browser is one of the first things I start up when I turn on my PC, and generally stays open until my PC has to reboot for some reason (which may be anywhere from a week to a month). This is really only possible now because I use Chrome.

  • Re:Quit whining (Score:5, Interesting)

    by mcrbids ( 148650 ) on Tuesday January 08, 2013 @03:59PM (#42523077) Journal

    Do you know why Microsoft only releases patches once a month for its operating systems? Because corporate environments can become violently ill when something is updated without it being tested first.

    We even offered to have a "stable" release version with updates only every 1 to 6 months, and have every released version have a 30 day trial period so that they could preview changes. We asked a 5% premium for this service. We thought as much as half of our client base would go for it based on the loud verbal feedback. But as soon as our clients found that they were choosing between having last year's product, totally stable with no updates or getting the new one with all the latest new features, bells, and whistles, guess how popular this option was? How many clients do you think signed that contract?

    Not one.

    My "narrow-mindedness" comes from my past experience... so now we listen to the whining carefully, and try to identify ways to better disseminate our change logs.

    And for the record, a product that doesn't need to be updated is something some programmers strive for: It means they've made something that does its job so well there's no need to change it.

    It's also a sign of a stagnant industry/marketplace. Needs change as circumstances change, and if the software doesn't change with the customer, it tends to disappear.

"If the code and the comments disagree, then both are probably wrong." -- Norm Schryer