BBC Twitter Accounts Hacked By Pro-Assad Syrian Electronic Army 129
DavidGilbert99 writes "Following BBC Weather on Twitter seems like it wouldn't throw up too many surprises — possibly news of the odd blizzard now and again. But today, the account's 60,000 followers got a little more than 'chance of a light drizzle' when the pro-Assad Syrian Electronic Army hacked the account, along with a couple of other BBC accounts, in an apparent protest at what it sees as reports which don't show the Syrian regime in the best light." Also at the BBC itself.
Oh sure... (Score:2)
... like that's going to change anyone's mind.
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Yeah, even clever twitter hacks that post satire of the kind of thing the original account posts doesn't sway those already in agreement with it. This blandly shouting about how wrong the BBC is is just boring. It's a phone call to twitter HQ and a password reset away from being resolved too.
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Assad (Score:5, Funny)
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Yeah really, he didn't even go to Harvard... Savage!
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He was an opthalmologist in the UK before his brother died and his father recalled him to groom him as his successor. His FATHER was the genocidal dictator, not him. His main constraint was that he was heading a regime dedicated to protect all non-Sunni minorities in Syria, and they knew that if they loosened their grip on power, their country would see an upheaval similar to, in fact worse than, Egypt. This is easily borne out by the fact that as the rebels have captured cities like Aleppo and Homs, the
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"Exposing hypocrisy" has had exactly zero effect for over 10000 years, merely a diversion while the dirty business continues. The players are irrelevant, the system is eternal.
Re:Assad (Score:5, Interesting)
I think one of the main issues in this media conflict is that the general overall view being put over is one of "Assad" vs "The opposition fighters", with a lot of western media glossing over the fact that most of the opposition fighters are no better than Assad. Assad is not someone I would ever wish to support, but the same goes for the vast majority of those who are fighting his regime at the moment - it really is "the lesser of two evils", and somewhat of a decision no one ever would want to make.
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if the opposition fighters, all of them, were radical hardcore fundamentalists (which isn't true, even of the religious fighters), this would still be better than Assad the butcher
in this world, you don't get to pick between absolute evil and shining pure good
in the real world, on any political choice, in every country, forever, you get to pick between
1. shit, and
2. slightly better than shit
but unfortunately this doesn't stop certain fools from judging all political forces from the point of view of idealism
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Assad was killing people who opposed his regime by the dozens. And you'd have to be actively protesting against the government to be targeted.
al-Nusra front is killing people who belong to the "wrong" religious group by the thousands, and they don't only target those actively opposing them, but anyone who professes the wrong faith, if it can be proven in any way. If they actually take over the entire country, we may well be talking about millions there (Alawites alone number 2.5 million in Syria).
No, I don'
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I think the post to which you originally replied was going from a different angle - that Syria needs a dictatorship to prevent tyranny of the majority that would result in a massacre of minorities by that majority, and that maintaining such a tyranny necessarily requires some amount of oppression - and that Assad was exerting just that amount without excesses. The first part of this argument I can tentatively buy into. I don't like it, but it would be naive to believe that democracy is always a better choic
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"Genocidal"? Evidence please.
I know this is hard for you Americans to understand, but this guy isn't Saddam. In fact he's a Western-educated opthamologist who worked in a London hospital until the death of his older brother forced him to give up his career and return to Syria to become President. His efforts to liberalise Syrian politics have been rewarded by a Western-backed insurgency, which you have been manipulated into supporting.
Every day you will see another story making the case for war in Syria. Ye
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And now they've hacked Slashdot!
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"Genocidal"? Evidence please.
I know this is hard for you Americans to understand, but this guy isn't Saddam. In fact he's a Western-educated opthamologist who worked in a London hospital until the death of his older brother forced him to give up his career and return to Syria to become President. His efforts to liberalise Syrian politics have been rewarded by a Western-backed insurgency, which you have been manipulated into supporting.
Every day you will see another story making the case for war in Syria. Yesterday, Assad used chemical weapons (against his own soldiers....). Today Assad hacked the BBC (again, against his own interest). Who knows what he will do tomorrow? Perhaps he will find some Weapons of Mass Destruction that can be launched in under 45 minutes? Maybe he will be Linked To Al Quaeda? Such fun. Such fun.
I agree. His father was a Saddam. He isn't. As for this civil war, the ones using chemical weapons are his enemies, not him.
Like I pointed out above, he did try to liberalize Syria, but he knew that there were limits to which he could go. This is borne out by events in other Arab countries such as Egypt, and in Syria itself. Right now, the Syrian rebels are busy massacreing non-Sunnis - something they would have done had Assad gone through with ALL his reforms. Problem in Muslim countries is that t
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Lets see what Human Rights Watch has to say:
In Cold Blood: [hrw.org]
Summary Executions by Syrian Security Forces and Pro-Government Militias
Torture Archipelago [hrw.org]
Arbitrary Arrests, Torture, and Enforced Disappearances in Syria;s Underground Prisons since March 2011
Syria: Mounting Casualties from Cluster Munitions [hrw.org]
We've Never Seen Such Horror: [hrw.org]
Crimes against Humanity by Syrian Security Forces
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Hacking is the great equalizer (Score:5, Interesting)
I don't know what the truth of the situation is in Syria, but I know that:
(a) Western media seems to present a similar point of view no matter which source you're watching/reading
(b) Western governments seem to agree with the media
(c) There are few opposing voices in government or media
For this reason, it means that anyone with a contrary viewpoint is facing a giant media bloc composed of the most powerful governments and media producers in history.
Hacking is an equalizer. With relatively few people, and relatively low investment, it allows hackers to use the notoriety of the hack to present their point of view.
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Re:Hacking is the great equalizer (Score:5, Insightful)
Al-Jazeera is hardly the "Western Media"
No, but they are generally pretty pro-radical Islam, and most of the Arab Spring rebels to date (incl. those in Syria) seem to be way more interested in instituting Sharia and putting Muslim Brotherhood politicians in power than in establishing pro-Western democracies or giving people more freedom.
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Which just turns the question around the other way. If the anti-Assad rebels are radical Islam and anti-western, why would the western powers be pursuing a defamation campaign against Assad?
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f the anti-Assad rebels are radical Islam and anti-western, why would the western powers be pursuing a defamation campaign against Assad?
Because the West is, by and large, oblivious to what's really going on. Western intelligence agencies still seem more geared towards the Cold War than towards really understanding the Middle East. They see Assad as an ally of Russia and somewhat anti-Israeli and label him an enemy, Then they see a rebellion against him and make the false assumption that "The enemy of my enemy is my friend," ignoring the very strong radical Islamist bent of these (and other Arab Spring) rebels. They mistake a pro-traditional
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Because most Westerners don't want them to become Westerners, we want them to have a say in what they choose.
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They are not pro-radical Islam they are pro Muslim Brotherhood. There is a difference. The Brotherhood are purveyors of political Islam but they are hardly radical. Not compared to the wild eyed Salafi/Wahabbi types anyways.
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Jabhat al-Nusra, which is the most prominent Islamist faction among the rebels today, is specifically affiliated with al-Qaeda, not Muslim Brotherhood. And they are Salafi.
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Its more accurate to say they share a common ancestor. They've got quite a bit of distance between them now. To ignore that is a way of making a (weak) argument.
And with movements methods become ideology. The Brotherhood are political players and are evolving towards the being able to cope with the realities of power, compromise etc. Yes albeit with an authoritarian bent.
So your conclusion is unnecessarily hyperbolic.
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so it's "radical" even if alot of the population supports it?
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Re:Hacking is the great equalizer (Score:5, Insightful)
I've tried watching RT's coverage of things, and if you thing Western media is biased, you ain't seen nothing yet. They called the uprising against (unelected) president Assad an anti-democratic rebellion payed for by the U.S. over a year ago.
And during the presidential election(after the primaries), they treated Ron Paul as a front-running candidate. It was bizarre. Beyond bizarre.
Watching Al Jazeera or BBC gives you a clear sense of a non-american perspective on things, some bias but on the whole attempting to report honestly, but RT is like Cold War era Pravda in video form.
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RT IS the new version of Pravda. It's the officially sanctioned russian TV channel. As such, it provides great insight into how the Russian government is looking at the world. This also means though that it is a terrible source of news for anything that doesn't match the Kremlin's narrative, either inside or outside of Russia. I always laugh when I hear some people recommend RT as a great news alternative to something like CNN or New York Times.
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it provides great insight into how the Russian government is looking at the world.
No. What it does provide is great insight into how the Russian government wants it's people to look at the world.
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Not really. Russians don't watch RT; they watch the Russian language TV channels. RT is propaganda targeted at foreigners.
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My real point still stands. In no way does it's output reflect what their government is thinking. It only reflects what they desire us to see.
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RT is, of course, a propaganda vehicle, but it doesn't make it useless. Best propaganda is uncomfortable truth, and you'll see a lot of that on RT. Of course, you will often see it out of context, or with important bits omitted etc. But to fill in those parts, you have your usual news sources. The purpose of RT is not to be your primary channel of news. It's to bring to your attention some things that mainstream media in your country chooses to gloss over. It will, of course, only bring up such things that
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The "anti-democratic" part + the unelected part, eh? That's... pretty anti-reality.
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I've tried watching RT's coverage of things, and if you thing Western media is biased, you ain't seen nothing yet
I've been touting RT.com as a good source of foreign news for a while. It seems to carry a lot of stories that Western sources don't even bother to mention.
One concrete recent example is the Gitmo hunger strike, which has been going on for over a month and only in the last couple of days has been picked up elsewhere.
All news media is biased. The BBC website is better than most, but has been pushing a pro-rebel Syria view despite the evidence that they are just as cruel and authoritarian as the Asaad governm
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Hacking is an equalizer. With relatively few people, and relatively low investment, it allows hackers to use the notoriety of the hack to present their point of view.
Great. So what was the message? Because I still seem to have missed it.
Seriously? (Score:4, Insightful)
Yes, because hacking people makes you look that much better.
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Also, if Assad wanted balanced coverage, maybe he should have let reporters into the country to cover things. Stonewalling and only providing "official reports" makes it look like you have something to hide.
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If you don't shell and shoot reporters, who are you going to shell and shoot? I mean besides your own disenfranchised people.
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To me the tweets don't look like what you'd expect a hardline regime to post. It looks false flag, but not even serious false flag, just someone doing a prank pretending to be pro-Assad. Look at the tweets quoted from the linked BBC article:
Alongside the standard tweets from the weather feed such as "'last night was chilly" some more bizarre comments began emerging.
They included: "Saudi weather station down due to head-on collision with camel."
Another read: "Chaotic weather forecast for Lebanon as the government decides to distance itself from the Milky Way."
Not in the best light? (Score:3)
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The problem is that both sides do everything that you've listed, but for some reason, Western media focuses on the atrocities committed by Syrian govt forces, and downplays rebels doing the same.
Not that it's anything new, really. We've seen the same exact thing in Bosnia, Chechnya and Kosovo before. Everyone knows Srebrenica massacre and the plight of Albanian refugees from Kosovo, but how many have heard of, say, Gospic or Operation Storm? There is plenty of material on the war crimes committed against lo
No. The cat doesn't have my tongue. (Score:4, Funny)
It seems like they must have hacked my Weather Channel app quite some time ago, too.
As a nerd, I am thoroughly offended (Score:2)
Jesus Christ BBC. Get some "experts" who know the difference between a One Time Password and Two-Factor Auth; I am thoroughly offended by your reporting.
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Jesus Christ BBC. Get some "experts" who know the difference between a One Time Password and Two-Factor Auth; I am thoroughly offended by your reporting.
I also LOL at the BBC's lack of security knowledge. I'll bet they got h4k0r3ed because they had a dictionary word password.
It's embarrassing for them but it can be fixed with no lasting harm done.
I think I speak for most of us... (Score:2)
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Only one message for this from me: Go fuck yourself, Assad. We know what you're up to.
Only we don't. We only know what's been reported by the mainstream media and so far that's been reports of Syrian rebels getting all kinds of aid from various places to help them attack their government. We really don't know who these rebels are or why they are attacking their governments.
This is the same kind of reporting that had far too many people convinced that Iraq had WMDs that could destroy half of Europe within 30 minutes of Saddam giving the order.
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I like the details. Who is involved in this and what do they want?
I could assume the details but I don't know enough about Syria to make a reasonable guess.
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Have you ever lived anywhere in that region? I have. Same shit, different pile.
No, I never have. Tell me what it's like because I will listen.
I want to know what's going on in the world and the only thing I can be really sure of is that the mainstream media is lying about significant world events.
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Scam != Hack (Score:1)
Yes, I know I'm picking nits, but still.
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I don't know, that "the more the merrier" attitude worked for myspace.
How ironic (Score:2)
The BBC loves Assad AND the other maniacs.
It's the BBC (Score:2)
Half the passwords are "godsavethequeen" and the other half are "wanker".
Just to let the Syrian Electronic Army know,
Huffington Post passwords are usually "iheartzlolcatz" and "password"
Fox News passwords are ALL "nra4ever"
CNN passwords are usually "imarriedlarryking"
What's going on in Syria? (Score:2)
Does anyone actually have any idea what's actually happening with Syria?
I don't believe anything reported by the mainstream media on this, it stinks of the same type of transparent lies they spewed to get the public on side for the Iraq invasion.
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Thanks.
EA? (Score:2)
At it again. Oh wait, this is a different EA causing mass destruction. Sorry.
As a journalist myself (Score:2)
As a journalist myself, this made me curious because I really don't know the answer to the conundrum posed. The SEA is objecting to the way the BBC portrays the Assad regime, and that is their right to disagree. My question to them is how should the BBC portray the use of the leader of an a military outfit that uses chemical weapons on children and civilians? I can honestly say that I don't know how one would portray this in a good light. Can any SEA spokespeople enlighten me on this one?
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Nothing but western propaganda. According to western media, no rule is allowed to defend itself and the rest of the country from an uprise, because fighting back is equal to murdering civilians. The FSA and the western backers are the real terrorists in this case.
Where is the neutral reporting of the facts of this 'uprising'? All I see is transparent propaganda trying to justify giving all kinds of aid to the rebels.
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The BBC is usually neutral in most matters, they can usually be trusted.
But when it comes to anything military they push the government line aggressively even when that line is inconsistent or makes no sense. CNN is much the same in that regard.
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Educate us, how is Britain and USA backing Syria?
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Most recently, the BBC banned all mention of the hunger strike initiated to bring the depraved and sickening actions of the Israeli government to the attention of the world's public.
March:
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21768293 [bbc.co.uk]
Some prisoners have also been on hunger strike in protest at their treatment.
Feb:
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21615320 [bbc.co.uk]
Two Palestinians held in Israeli jail end hunger strike
Feb
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21564604 [bbc.co.uk]
Palestinian prisoners stage fast over inmate death