Study Suggests Patent Office Lowered Standards To Cope With Backlog 96
An anonymous reader points out a story at Ars about how the "significant reduction" in the backlog of pending patent applications may not be all that it seems. "...a new study suggests another explanation for the declining backlog: the patent office may have lowered its standards, approving many patents that would have been (and in some cases, had been) rejected under the administration of George W. Bush. The authors—Chris Cotropia and Cecil Quillen of the University of Richmond and independent researcher Ogden Webster—used Freedom of Information Act requests to obtain detailed data about the fate of patent applications considered by the USPTO since 1996.
They found that the "allowance rate," the fraction of applications approved by the patent office, declined steadily from 2001 and 2009. But in the last four years there's been a sharp reversal, with a 2012 allowance rate about 20 percent higher than it was in 2009."
Maybe people are writing better patents...nope. (Score:1)
Re:Maybe people are writing better patents...nope. (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't know what the proper term is relating to what I think are "patent departments." I'd like to see if there's a breakdown in the acceptance rates across various lines of expertise. The reason is because I have a belief that much of this is indeed because of patent trolling. If that were the case, I'd expect that a number of departments would still show about the same acceptance rate.
Since the Comp Sci patent applications typically invent and redefine their terms in the patent application (after all, they're creating new "ideas"), they've found more effective ways to get their "inventions" defined in a way that appears more patentable. Also, it looks like some work at Stanford showed that rejecting patents really just increased their workload for a variety of reasons. Path of least resistance will eventually win you know...
http://siepr.stanford.edu/?q=/system/files/shared/pubs/11-014.pdf [stanford.edu]
Re:Maybe people are writing better patents...nope. (Score:4, Insightful)
Obama "reformed" patents to make them more "business friendly."
Damn that socialist!
It's hard to imagine anyone being easier on business than Bush Jr., but there you go.
Re:Maybe people are writing better patents...nope. (Score:4, Insightful)
Damn it.
This time it is Obama's fault!
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This time it is Obama's fault!
Everything since 2009...
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How did a purportedly non-partisan story like this get on slashdot?
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Corporate welfare is no less socialistic than any other form of socialism.
”The worst thing that can happen to a socialist is to have his country ruled by socialists who are not his friends.” – Ludwig Von Mises
coincidentally, dumber patent lawyers submitting (Score:2)
with broader claims. now you CAN have the salad dressing that is also a shampoo! and a lift bridge! and a three-finger-salute sidewipe!
Correlation != Causation (Score:1)
There's another perfectly reasonable explanation for this.
1. Allowance rate declines from 2001-2009 as standards increase.
2. Fewer marginal patent applications submitted due to increased standards.
3. Allowance rate increases as average quality of patent applications increases.
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3. Allowance rate increases as average quality of patent applications increases.
You have to be a troll. A reasonable person can't think this...
Re:Correlation != Causation (Score:5, Interesting)
3. Allowance rate increases as average quality of patent applications increases.
You have to be a troll. A reasonable person can't think this...
Someone whose beliefs about patents are based on what they read on Slashdot, will not believe this. But someone who actually looks at reality will see things differently. The quality of patents really has improved in recent years. Much of this is because of the Supreme Court ruling in KSR vs Teleflex [wikipedia.org], which expanded and clarified the "obviousness" criteria, as well as invalidating many types of "combination" patents.
Another reason the backlog of patents has declined is that the USPTO is better funded, and has hired many more patent examiners. In 2005, there were about 7300 examiners. Today, there are more than 9500.
Re:Correlation != Causation (Score:5, Funny)
3. Allowance rate increases as average quality of patent applications increases.
You have to be a troll. A reasonable person can't think this...
Someone whose beliefs about patents are based on what they read on Slashdot, will not believe this. But someone who actually looks at reality will see things differently. The quality of patents really has improved in recent years. Much of this is because of the Supreme Court ruling in KSR vs Teleflex [wikipedia.org], which expanded and clarified the "obviousness" criteria, as well as invalidating many types of "combination" patents.
Another reason the backlog of patents has declined is that the USPTO is better funded, and has hired many more patent examiners. In 2005, there were about 7300 examiners. Today, there are more than 9500.
Stop ruining our patent bashing session with 'facts' ...
Re:Correlation != Causation (Score:5, Informative)
Another reason the backlog of patents has declined is that the USPTO is better funded, and has hired many more patent examiners. In 2005, there were about 7300 examiners. Today, there are more than 9500.
It seems to me that we need to compare the numbers here [uspto.gov]. So looking at 2005 as you mentioned, there were 417,508 patents filed. That means a per-examiner average of 57.19 patents. Fast forward to today, in 2012 there were 576,763 patents filed which gives us a per-examiner average of 60.71 patents. Instead of showing a decrease in the average patents indicating a more acceptable workload for examiners, we instead find that the opposite is the case. Given even the budget increase that provided for additional examiners, the workload on each examiner has been increased by ~6.4% since 2005 which should indicate that the approval rate should be in the same ballpark as it has trended to in the past. I can see no way to account for the 20% increase in patent approvals when the workload has also increased.
I browse the USPTO approved patents occasionally just for fun because seeing what gets approved is laughable sometimes. Ultimately I haven't seen any difference in quality of those approved at all but I do not evaluate a significant enough subset of the total approved patents to say with certainty that this is the case. I find it very hard to believe, however, that in the face of increased workload the quality of overall submissions has improved so drastically in 3 years that 20% more patents are being approved. With such massive datasets, a huge trend change like this almost never occurs. You can't tell me that out of 276,788 approved patents 55,358 of them just suddenly got better than previous years when the ruling in KSR v Teleflex that should have spurred these changes happened ~4 years earlier. Again, there should be a trend to the changes that shows an upward swing in approvals rather than this:
2007 - 484,955 Total Patents / 182,899 Approved Patents / 37.71% approval
2008 - 485,312 Total Patents / 185,224 Approved Patents / 38.17% approval
2009 - 482,871 Total Patents / 191,927 Approved Patents / 39.75% approval
2010 - 520,277 Total Patents / 244,341 Approved Patents / 46.96% approval
2011 - 535,188 Total Patents / 247,713 Approved Patents / 46.29% approval
2012 - 576,763 Total Patents / 276,788 Approved Patents / 48.99% approval
Ultimately, just looking at the numbers comparisons, it is almost as though every additional patent to the total number of patents since 2009 has been approved. For example, in 2010 there were 37,306 more patents than 2009 but there are !!52,414!! more approved patents. Taking the same comparison but going 2011 vs 2009 (because this is the year that shows the marked trend change), we have 52,317 more patents and 55,786 more approved patents. Finally, in 2012 vs 2009, we have 93,982 more patents and 84,861 approved patents (the first time since 2009 there have been less approved patents than the increase of actual submissions). What intrigues me most about these numbers is that we see a huge increase in the number of submitted patents during 2010 and on...I have heard through the grapevine that this is because of the slackening in standards at the USPTO to bolster the agency's numbers which has spurred the patent trolls but IANAPL (patent lawyer) so I wouldn't know anything about whether this is reality or not.
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I'm going with the lowered standards.
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There should be a penalty for submitting bad patents.
Maybe they should keep a ratio of good:bad and base the number of patents you're allowed to submit per month on that.
eg.
Ratio of 100:1 means you're allowed to submit 100 per month
Ratio of 1:1 means you're only allowed to submit one per month
Re:Correlation != Causation (Score:5, Interesting)
There should be a penalty for submitting bad patents.
Is there a form to fill out for this? YOUR IDEA REGARDING [x] patents IS UNWORKABLE BECAUSE [x] It penalizes small applicants [x] It will be gamed just as much as the existing system.
The basic fundamental problem is that the patent office receives money to grant patents. Instead, it must receive money to evaluate patents. They get a small amount of money when you file, and a larger amount when they grant. The only solution I can see is a complete overhaul involving granting a lot less patents, but that's not going to happen without a complete overhaul of our society, because that challenges the mighty status quo.
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Is there a form to fill out for this? YOUR IDEA REGARDING [x] patents IS UNWORKABLE BECAUSE [x] It penalizes small applicants
Ummmm, if you've never submitted a bad patent you can submit as many patents as you like (divide by zero=infinite!).
[x] It will be gamed just as much as the existing system.
How? If the name of the inventor is required on the patent you can't submit them in a fake name.
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The only solution I can see is a complete overhaul involving granting a lot less patents, but that's not going to happen without a complete overhaul of our society, because that challenges the mighty status quo.
You lost me at that last point. We need to "completely" overhaul society because we need to change one office?
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You lost me at that last point. We need to "completely" overhaul society because we need to change one office?
I lost you because I used too many big words. I said it won't happen without overhauling our society. What we choose to do about the problems endemic to our current system is outside the scope of this conversation. We have come to this pass because of our economic structure, however. If we fix this problem, another like it will be created.
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The basic fundamental problem is that the patent office receives money to grant patents. Instead, it must receive money to evaluate patents. They get a small amount of money when you file, and a larger amount when they grant.
This is how it already works, depending on your definitions for "small" and "large". You pay a fee to file your patent application, and when it's allowed by the examiner, you pay a fee to have the patent issued. Of course, there's always room for discussion about how much those fees should be.
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The basic fundamental problem is that the patent office receives money to grant patents. Instead, it must receive money to evaluate patents. They get a small amount of money when you file, and a larger amount when they grant.
USPTO Fee Schedule [uspto.gov]:
Basic filing fee: $280
Size fee (if applicable: $400
Search fee: $600
Examination fee: $720
Publication fee: $300
Issue fee: $1780
Total USPTO receives to evaluate patents: $2300
Total USPTO receives to grant patents: $1780
Additionally, if you read the article or study, one of the things they're complaining about is that an application can be examined multiple times with multiple rejections, through the filing of requests for continued examination... w
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The office gets money for almost every thing the applicant files. They also make additional money off renewals for allowances.
Strangely not every fee covers the costs of examination.
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There should be a penalty for submitting bad patents.
There is. You don't get your money back if your patent is rejected.
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If progress and patents applications were exponentially increasing and the standard for acceptance remained the same then there should not have been a decline between 2001 and 2009.
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If your definition of "innovation" is "number of patents submitted" then I guess patent trolls are the most innovative people around.
Cheap :-( (Score:3, Funny)
Those bastards!
They just gave me a patent on clearing backlogs by relaxing standards, and they're not paying me to use it!
Re:The more frivilous applications you make... (Score:5, Insightful)
smart companies aren't going to peruse patents that are frivolous and/or won't hold up in court.
Smart companies know the patent doesn't have to stand up in court, it just has to cost the competitor millions of dollars to prove it doesn't stand up.
Trolling companies know the patent doesn't have to stand up in court, it just has to cost their victim millions of dollars to prove it doesn't stand up in court so they'll pay a few hundred thousand to save money.
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Until you can sue the USPTO for granting a bad patent, this will never change.
Paging N.S. Sherlock (Score:2)
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The existence of patents do not "hamstring the march of human knowledge." I can't speak for everyone, but the fact is that there are a lot of creative people out there who don't create just for the joy of creating, or for altruistic reasons-- they do it for the money. I'm sure that altruism and personal accomplishment are high on the list, but the fact remains that if an invention is beneficial and its development was performed morally, we shouldn't care why it was done. And not having patents available
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Hamstringing the march of human knowledge is exactly what they are designed to do. For a limited time a person is granted a monopoly in exchange for sharing that knowledge. This slow progress, but in theory prevents the loss of that information. The concept is this trade off is worth that, in practice I don't believe it often is.
People don't create to get a pantent they create to make something they can sell or use. Without patents this would still happen, as the creator would have first mover advantage.
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No, they are not. The Constitution states they are for the "progress of science and the useful arts." Your assignment of a negative moniker makes it to be an evil rather than a compromise.
Without patents, nearly no one would have a "first mover" advantage. In reality, big business would steal every new idea of every individual or small company. Most inventions and every work of art is easily copied. Robert Kiyosaki invented the surfer wallet, but because he did not patent it then everyone copied it. It
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I call BS. If there were no patent system, then inventors would bring their products to market anyways. Inventors don't bring products to market because the patent system protects them, they do it because if they don't, they are guaranteed not to make any money. Patents, like copyright are an archaic solution to a problem that doesn't really exist anymore, and possibly never did. A company that brings a novel product to market, will have at least a year before a competitor can copy it and bring the copies to market.
What industry do you work in? Because in software, you can get a team to reverse engineer a product and crank out a copy within 3-6 weeks. And if you think that the first-mover advantage is all anyone needs, go talk to NimbleBit about Tiny Tower, or Slashkey about Farmville. And copyright doesn't protect those, because the copyrightable assets - the sprites, the textures, etc. - are all new.
But you're both right and wrong - the problem is not that inventors would sit with their thumbs up their butts and ma
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What industry do you work in? Because in software, you can get a team to reverse engineer a product and crank out a copy within 3-6 weeks. And if you think that the first-mover advantage is all anyone needs, go talk to NimbleBit about Tiny Tower, or Slashkey about Farmville. And copyright doesn't protect those, because the copyrightable assets - the sprites, the textures, etc. - are all new.
Did you seriously bring up crappy social games in a patent discussion? First of all, games are unpatentable, second of all, Tiny Tower was just a crappy redesign of Sim Tower in the first place, and finally, the whole "Trade Secrets and NDAs!" argument is nonsense since the whole business point of games is to gain as much public viewership/ownership as possible.
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To which invention are you referring? perspective? That silly barge thing? Some feature of architecture? I find it unlikely that not one other person could look at the works and figure out how it was done. Methinks they were dabbling a little much with their leaded paint, and held a little too much belief in the mystical arts to be doing any real thinking anyways...
If you don't even know what invention they're talking about, then are you really qualified to opine that they too busy thinking about the mystical arts? As a tip, Google exists nowadays. Invented in the past 20 years, too.
Otherwise I cant understand why duplicating any of those would be so difficult. If I put a block and tackle arrangement in front of my 5 year old and told him to make something similar, I'm sure he could, it just isn't that hard.
Then how come it took until 1500 for any of that stuff? Why did the Romans have it, or the Greeks, or the Neanderthals? A steam engine or internal combustion engine is pretty straightforward, once you've seen one. I bet most any engineer could sketch one out on a napkin if you asked... Mos
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Sure it does. The full force of the industrial revolution was delayed by 25 years due to patents on the crankshaft. Back when James Watt was developing his improves steam engine. No kidding, its a matter of historical fact. So yes, it does hamstring human progress.
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It is sickening in the extreme to think that it's possible to deny other people access to information, simply because you thought of it first.
It's worse than that. Patents don't deny access to information, but they curtail our freedom to help each other. And those who register patents almost never think of it first. Did Apple think first of a rectangular device with rounded corners?
As usual, Richard Stallman has a great solution:
We should legislate that developing, distributing, or running a program on generally used computing hardware does not constitute patent infringement.
This will work because a very similar law already works in the medical field. Just like surgeons, who can safely ignore procedural patents to save lives, programmers and distributors of free software deserve complete pa
Re:Disgusting! (Score:4, Informative)
It is sickening in the extreme to think that it's possible to deny other people access to information, simply because you thought of it first.
It's worse than that. Patents don't deny access to information, but they curtail our freedom to help each other. And those who register patents almost never think of it first. Did Apple think first of a rectangular device with rounded corners?
Of course not, but then, they never patented "a rectangular device with rounded corners". This whole bit of FUD is based on taking two words out of context in a list of features that Samsung could have changed to not infringe in the German design patent infringement case. Specifically, Apple said that their patent claimed A+B+C+D+E+F+G+H, etc. with one of those things being rounded corners. If Samsung changed any of them - not having rounded corners, but having every other bit; or having rounded corners, but not having a flush bezel - then they wouldn't infringe. And that latter one is exactly what they did with the Galaxy Tab 10.1N: a device with rounded corners that does not infringe Apple's patent... so therefore, the patent clearly cannot cover "a device with rounded corners".
As usual, Richard Stallman has a great solution:
We should legislate that developing, distributing, or running a program on generally used computing hardware does not constitute patent infringement.
This will work because a very similar law already works in the medical field. Just like surgeons, who can safely ignore procedural patents to save lives, programmers and distributors of free software deserve complete patent immunity because their work is entirely gratis, and benefits the whole world.
Note that Stallman's solution doesn't include either of those requirements, and therefore lacks the same moral justification.
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If you want to defend a law that prevents someone from creating, manufacturing, distributing, or selling a good, then the onus is on you to provide the moral justification for the existence of that law. Otherwise, the law is an unnecessary impediment to our freedom and should be promptly abolished.
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If you want to defend a law that prevents someone from creating, manufacturing, distributing, or selling a good, then the onus is on you to provide the moral justification for the existence of that law. Otherwise, the law is an unnecessary impediment to our freedom and should be promptly abolished.
Sounds reasonable. The justification is that trade secrets are bad because they stifle innovation by requiring constant re-invention of the same concepts over and over, and prevent people from being able to improve others' work. Patents give an incentive to people to destroy trade secrets, by giving a time-limited monopoly in exchange for required public disclosure.
Okay, your turn to rebut that. Plus, while you're at it, quit dodging the question and answer why Stallman's solution, lacking any of the "free
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I fully agree with everything you have said for every industry except software. In industries other than software, engineers invent technologi
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I fully agree with everything you have said for every industry except software. In industries other than software, engineers invent technologies that push limitations imposed by the physics and chemistry that make up our universe. In software, the only limitation placed on the software itself is the limits of the developer's imagination. I have never once read the headline to a software patent and wondered how the developer managed to push the boundaries to accomplish the task at hand. The challenge in software development is not how to find a way to get the software to do what you wish: the challenge is finding the best way to accomplish the task given all of the options at your disposal. While it may seem reasonable to grant a patent on the latter, the problem is that the best solution differs depending on your client and varies wildly on a case-by-case basis.
Sure, but you aren't patenting the "best" mousetrap (or software equivalent), but an "improved" one. Maybe your new state machine-based sort algorithm works better in some instances where it can utilize a priori knowledge, but doesn't work well with completely random data. If you've still improved upon known sorts, isn't that the type of thing that we, the public, want you to tell us about, even if it isn't the best possible one?
And if you don't like that argument, then how about the fact that software patents contain no useful information about how the "invention" works, a.k.a. disclosing the trade secret. Instead, the "inventor" gets to keep the trade secret in the form of the source code. So they get the benefit of the patent protection on a very broad concept and they get to keep the specifics about how the invention actually works protected under trade secret.
They shouldn't require the source code, because you shouldn't need the source t
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The sort algorithm would contain enough detail to be something of actual value
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The sort algorithm would contain enough detail to be something of actual value that the software development community would probably like to know, but I believe that would be considered a mathematical formula which does not enjoy patent protection.
Depends how it's written. You can write it as a method executed by a computing device, and it's no longer just a mathematical formula. That a claim recites a non-patentable formula doesn't make the claim unpatentable, if it has other patentable elements. But that's a whole nother discussion.
Besides that, the problem in general with patenting improvements to invents is that the patent on the existing invention is so broad that it covers all implementations of that invention (hence the reason software patents are counter-productive).
You're arguing two different things here... Improvements are always patentable (see 35 USC 101), and it's the utmost hubris to pretend that every invention is entirely new and revolutionary and doesn't stand on the shoul
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This whole bit of FUD is based on taking two words out of context in a list of features that Samsung could have changed to not infringe in the German design patent infringement case. Specifically, Apple said that their patent claimed A+B+C+D+E+F+G+H, etc. with one of those things being rounded corners.
Look at the patent [google.com], which, by the way, has 1 content-free claim (you didn't know that?), and a few crude pictures. I remember drawing things like that in high school. All I claim is that it's been thought of before, but nice trolling.
Note that Stallman's solution doesn't include either of those requirements, and therefore lacks the same moral justification.
So his argument is flawed because he didn't chew it up for you like I did? Try again.
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This whole bit of FUD is based on taking two words out of context in a list of features that Samsung could have changed to not infringe in the German design patent infringement case. Specifically, Apple said that their patent claimed A+B+C+D+E+F+G+H, etc. with one of those things being rounded corners.
Look at the patent [google.com], which, by the way, has 1 content-free claim (you didn't know that?), and a few crude pictures. I remember drawing things like that in high school.
It's a design patent - all design patents have only one claim, by law. However, it's not content free at all - rather, the claim is claiming exactly what's shown in the figures, which are not crude by any mention. And kudos for your high school for having an engineering drafting class. Mine did, too, and it has been very useful through several careers.
All I claim is that it's been thought of before, but nice trolling.
Nope, you did nothing of the sort. You asked a rhetorical question about Apple patenting rounded corners, and as I pointed out, they did nothing of the sort n
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It is sickening in the extreme to think that it's possible to deny other people access to information, simply because you thought of it first.
The default is to deny other people access to information because you thought of it first.
The patent system exists to help get the information into the public domain quickly, instead of having it kept as a trade secret for decades.
So when you're trolling on the patent system, try to understand its primary function first.
The problem is patent holders have forgotten the monopoly is supposed to be temporary, and then it's publicly available
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It is sickening in the extreme to think that it's possible to deny other people access to information, simply because you thought of it first.
The default is to deny other people access to information because you thought of it first.
The patent system exists to help get the information into the public domain quickly, instead of having it kept as a trade secret for decades.
So when you're trolling on the patent system, try to understand its primary function first.
The problem is patent holders have forgotten the monopoly is supposed to be temporary, and then it's publicly available
You may be confusing patents with copyright. Copyright is the one that keeps getting more and more extensions. Patent term has only been extended twice, and the latter was just to comply with an international treaty and changed "17 years from issue (plus a 3 year backlog)" to "20 years from filing". That latter one was actually a really good thing - it killed submarine patents in one fell swoop, because you couldn't delay and delay and delay and have a patent get issued decades later on something that had t
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Surely that cannot be true. (Score:2)
It might imply something positive about the Bush administration, and that is not permissable.
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I don't think this is an example of Bush Jr doing the right thing. I think it's an example of something he didn't think of.
Obama and Bush Jr. are both corporate shills, no matter what is said on TV.
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Can't that be said about the vast majority of modern politicians?
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It looks to me like a confusing use of 'the x administration' to designate a particular division of time, even when the subject at hand has little connection to event separating time periods.
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It looks to me like a confusing use of 'the x administration' to designate a particular division of time, even when the subject at hand has little connection to event separating time periods.
Yes and no - it may still reflect a legitimate difference between John Dudas (PTO director appointed by Bush) and David Kappos (PTO director appointed by Obama). While Bush/Obama may not care about the specifics (and may be more beholden to their corporate interests anyway), Dudas and Kappos had different concepts about how Examination should be funded, what the timelines should be, etc.
Smaller patents because prior art easier to find (Score:4, Interesting)
In the past a party looking to get a patent would go back and forth with the patent examiner at the USPTO a number of times, because the USPTO had a vast library of prior art that your average person doesn't have access to. Every time the examiner came up with prior art the patent would have to be rewritten to shrink it claims.
Now with the internet, anybody can search just about any database, this means the first draft patent will include more examples of prior art, a patent with less broad claims, and less for the patent examiner to object to.
A better measure of whether the USPTO is lowering its standards is the number of broad claims versus narrow claims in a patent. As well as the number of prior art examples cited in the patent, by definition if the prior art describes an aspect of the patent, that aspect is not patented, it is cited as a reference to what the patent DOES NOT cover.
Lower standards? (Score:2)
Like...below zero? Hey, wait a minute! I need to patent that!
Correct buried among incorrect bits in article (Score:5, Informative)
First, the incorrect or misleading:
But in the last four years there's been a sharp reversal, with a 2012 allowance rate about 20 percent higher than it was in 2009.
It can also be looked at as 12% higher [patentlyo.com], since it went from about 58% to about 70% in that time. "20 percent higher" is misleading. "120 percent of the 2009 rate" would be correct.
Calculating the real allowance rate is tricky because inventors can submit the same application multiple times. "From the perspective of the patent office, a 'final rejection' doesn't get rid of an application," Quillen told Ars in a December phone interview. If an application is rejected, the inventor can make minor changes to the application and file it again. "The only way you can reduce your numbers and get rid of somebody is to allow the case," Quillen said.
There are a number of different ways to re-file applications, with names like File Wrapper Continuations, Continued Prosecution Applications, Requests for Continued Examination and Continuation-In-Part Applications. But in all cases, the upshot is the same: the applicant gets another shot at convincing examiners to grant him a patent.
These are talking about two different things, mainly because the journalist doesn't understand the distinction:
1) An application can be "finally rejected" by the USPTO (meaning that it was rejected on specific grounds, the applicant replied, and the Examiner wasn't persuaded and "finally" rejected the application on those grounds), and the Applicant can amend to narrow the claims and file a request for continued examination or a continued prosecution application (the same thing, but for design patents).
For example, say you were Toyota and were patenting the Prius, and you originally had a claim of "1. A car, comprising: four wheels, an engine, and a battery" and the Examiner comes back and says "duh, that's every car." If you tried to argue that you meant a battery running the engine, but the Examiner wasn't persuaded since that distinction isn't in your claims (and there's other prior art with electric engines), they'd finally reject it. If you then amended your claims to recite your novel planetary engine dual-powered transmission, you'd have to file a request for continued examination so that it could be considered.
It's not really "submitting the same application multiple times" but several iterations of narrowing the application and arguing that as narrowed, it's patentable, until it finally is narrow enough to be allowed.
2) New applications can be filed as continuation applications or continuation-in-part applications, but they're not the "same application" by definition. Continuations and continued prosecution applications have the same specification, but different claims. Like, say, to save money, you wrote a patent application that described two separate, but related inventions. Like say, a new machine for more efficiently turning horses into glue, and a new offset gearing system for use in that machine or others that has increased torque with reduced tension. You could file a single application describing both, but only claiming the horse part. Later, you could file a continuation application using the same specification and claiming the gearing system part.
This helps small inventors by not requiring them to file dozens of applications on day one, when they might be short of cash, but file one big one, then later file additional continuations as they're able to raise capital. Importantly, all of the applications have the same effective priority date for prior art, and any patents coming from the applications expire on the same d
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As a patent examiner I'll throw in here too. There has certainly been a palpable shift in how we are encouraged to process cases over the last few years. It has much less to do with president 'X' and more to do with the current director of the PTO. Each one that comes in has their own priorities. From 2005-2009 the heavy focus was on quality. For examiners this translated into avoiding errors from the QA department. Every allowance submitted by an examiner is reviewed by QA while only a random sample of rej
Examiner viewpoint (Score:1)
From the viewpoint of an Examiner here's what happened:
1 - The allowance rate was artificially low in the Bush years because the appointed director implemented a "quality" system where all allowances were subject to stricter scrutiny, but rejections were not. When you can get written up and indeed fired because someone who doesn't actually Examine your technology glances at something and says "oh that's obvious" then you have to spend a few hours (which you have to make up in production later) explaining w
U.S. patent system is 'the envy of the world, (Score:1)
Not so long ago:
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/11/20/1838248/uspto-head-current-patent-litigation-is-reasonable [slashdot.org]
So..... (Score:2)
Where does that leave my patent of exchanging oxygen and carbon dioxide across a thin, moist barrier in a rhythmic process?
More about efficiencies? (Score:2)
The article made it sound like this more about the patent office being faster at responding to applications (even when rejecting them). And, faster rejections mean there's less likelihood of the filer abandoning their project. There was some dispute, but the counterargument in the article didn't wash w/ me.
The patent office has been hiring like crazy (Score:2)
The patent office has been hiring 1,000-1,500+ examiners a year for the past few years. While an increased allowance rate is one factor, when the Office has trippled in size since 2001, its hard to ignore the effects of more examiners.
Wrong question (Score:2)
What everyone was wondering was not why the backlog declined; we were wondering why the standards fell.
This has been going on for at least a decade (Score:2)
In the late1990s I worked in the research division of $large_corporation. Said corporation filed for a lot of patents, a few of which the researchers even considered patent-worthy (we had lots of lawyers who insisted on patenting everything). One day we got a chance to talk to an ex-USPTO staffer, and asked him about some should-never-have-issued patents in the area we worked in ("should never have issued" meant that they were patents on existing technology, for example one was on something that was at the
The main problem with US patent office... (Score:2)
..is that there is a fundamental interest for US companies in general and the US government to grant patents to those companies as much and as easy as possible.
Foreign companies have also found that the courts in US in patent cases doesn't seems to be impartial to the fact that one part is of US origin and the other not.
There is maybe no difference in this to many other country's patent offices but as US legal and economical muscles is so strong they have such an advantage that they have no reason to change