Run Netflix On OpenSUSE 128
sfcrazy writes "Ironically while Netflix's infrastructure runs on Linux and Open Source technologies, the service doesn't support Linux, the platform. Netflix is available for Mac, Windows, iOS, Android and Chrome OS but not for desktop Linux. One of the reasons could be that Netflix still uses Microsoft's Silverlight which is not supported on Linux. However Linux users have managed to get it to work on their distros. Now openSUSE users can also run Netflix using Pipelight."
Works like a charm on Ubuntu two (Score:5, Informative)
Instructions are here: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html [webupd8.org]
I've been using it for several week with Netflix on Ubuntu 12.04 and 13.10. It also works with Eurosport Player.
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Now just put that into SteamOS...
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Wouldn't be much more difficult than any other distro.
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Nope but it really should be built in.
Re:Works like a charm on Ubuntu two (Score:4, Informative)
Instructions are here: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html [webupd8.org]
I've been using it for several week with Netflix on Ubuntu 12.04 and 13.10. It also works with Eurosport Player.
Great. Now get it working on QNX, and my blackberry playbook is useful. In 2011.
Ironic? (Score:4, Informative)
No. The word I'm thinking is plagiarism. With the exception of the last sentence the summary was lifted from the ./muktware site with only one word changed.
I don't see a problem. (Score:2)
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Re:I don't see a problem. (Score:5, Funny)
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No, you need to plagiarize two separate sources to be research . . .
hawk, former academic
Slow day? (Score:5, Informative)
Dated much? Use of Pipelight to run Netflix on linux distros has been long available, publicized, shows for every search of "run Netflix on Linux", so...why is this here?
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Editors!?! We don't need no stinkin' editors!
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Yeah, but the submitter hadn't tried it, so that makes it "news".
Don't forget FreeBSD (Score:4, Informative)
The OS doing the heavy lifting (serving the actual video, up to 1/3 of the traffic on the net during peak hours) is FreeBSD.
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"serving the actual video, up to 1/3 of the traffic on the net" - Huh, that's strange. Are you sure? Because caching and collocation is a thing, you know?
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Re:Don't forget FreeBSD (Score:5, Interesting)
I work at Netflix, on the Cloud and Platform Engineering side, responsible for doing some stuff in the cloud. We use both Linux and FreeBSD -- Our cloud infrastructure runs on Linux, so all the API calls, license calls, logging in etc is hitting Linux servers. And once you start downloading a movie, you're downloading it from one of our caches, which runs on FreeBSD.
I know this is off-topic. (Score:2)
I assume you watch Netflix yourself, let me know if I'm wrong.
You know how when you see a movie in a theater and it has a conclusion that's full of emotion or has a surprise twist... and the credits start rolling and you have a moment to absorb what happened.
What if instead of having that moment, the film being projected shrunk to a tiny corner of the screen and trailers for other movies started playing?
"SO YOU JUST WATCHED SCHINDLER'S LIST. YOU MIGHT LIKE THE PIANIST!"
"SO YOU JUST WATCHED THE SIXTH SENSE.
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FWIW, that's specific to the particular client you're using. It doesn't happen for me on AppleTV, for example.
Netflix runs on linux. (Score:4, Interesting)
Every BluRay player that has netflix on it is running Linux. so they are lying when they say they do not support it. My Panasonic BluRay states it runs linux in the manual and the License information, and there is Netflix right there on it.
Netflix does not support a generic distro because they dont want to bother supporting it.
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They don't have to support linux. All they need to do is provide an API and the community will take care of it for them. Not sure how the DRM part would work, though. Is DRM possible with open source software? Could they provide binary blob of just that part?
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well, that's what pipelight amounts to.
but if pipelight doesn't honor hdcp shit, then they're screwed if they officially support it.
Re:Netflix runs on linux. (Score:4, Informative)
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Your laptop has a crap video processor. get one with a real Nvidia or ATI chipset that does video decoding and it will drop to 4%. Both my Macbook pro and my Dell gaming laptop that both have a real video chipset in them pretty much idle when playing a video from netflix or Hulu Plus.
Intel chipsets are still complete garbage.
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You are assuming that it dumps the video part right out to the graphics chip and says, "here's an mpeg stream, do what you can" rather than taking a stream of bits and trying to both decrypt and decode it entirely in software, essentially treating the graphics chip as a frame buffer.
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They dont even need to do that. Ship a statically compiled binary. Yes it will make all the purists whine from here to hell and back but it will be an option. deliver it with no support at all and make people click through 3 times a "we will hang up on you if you call us about this." dialog box.
It is a no brainer to release something, and in fact it would be awesome as XBMC people could use it as a netflix plugin by just calling the app.
Re:Netflix runs on linux. (Score:4, Insightful)
Uhm, I run linux on my servers AND it's my primary computer OS. Linux has been my primary desktop for well over 10 years now. We are not a 1% user base and since we actually know a thing or two about computers we demand a proportionately smaller amount of support time. In fact, I'd argue that we as linux users are more often than not providing support to the front line phone personal by pointing them directly to the problem.
The media industry simply refuses to allow any media play back no a device or OS that isn't completely locked down. THAT is why there is no native linux client.
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That has more to do with the fact that the "media industry" owns hulu more than it has to do with netflix. Disclaimer: I work in the "media industry". This kind of shit goes on all the damned time.
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Uh, it runs on Windows and Android. They can be locked down but frankly there's still a lot of hackery one can do on those platforms.
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Besides, that AC could very well be like me: relatively young. I was 14 ten years ago. I didn't start playing with Linux and the like until maybe 2006, but that doesn't mean I can't feel slightly proud that I eventually figured it out, even if it's 2013.
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nobody asked them to release the source. just release the binary blob.
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Vile hereteic!
For thy sin of requesting ye olde blob, thou art excommunicated from the High Church of Emacs.
There is NEVER an excuse for not handing over all your work, err, releasing the source.
(2 minutes now is too fast? Where's the "it's *ME*, damnit key? [hawk, who has a 4 digit uid as it took him a while to get over the cookies thing)
And now 4 minutes is too soon???
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That's why I haven't gotten silverfish or Netflix. I wonder, though, maybe I could run another instance of Linux, or maybe Chrome dual-boot or in a VM?
Nah, still wouldn't trust it. It would have to be on a box dedicated to Netflix.
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People watch netflix on a computer? (Score:3)
Why?
There is this thing called a tv with 40" inch screens
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B-b-but fweeeeedum!
Don't worry, your tv will most likely run some sort of linux distro
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> B-b-but fweeeeedum!
Media played on real Linux doesn't have any of the unskippable ad nonsense you see on a conventional BD player. Any of my desktop or HTPC players also have better navigation controls. I can much more reliably control those interfaces across multiple devices and not need to buy a single brand or model of console.
ALL PC based streaming video implementations kind of suck. So it's hard to argue against a $60 streamer appliance.
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>> People watch netflix on a computer? Why?
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> It saves space when your computer can act as the TV too.
Hardly.
Even next to a even a low profile computer, a streamer appliance looks like the tranceiver for an after market IR remote.
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I have to assume you are trolling. Otherwise you seem to have had your imagination amputated.
The most common uses are a kick-ass multi-tuner DVR and a media library player. The little Roku boxes are cool, but you really have to jump through hoops to play local content, and they don't do YouTube at all - nor do they have DVR capability. Similar tradeoffs exist for Apple and Android boxes.
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There is this thing called a tv with 40" inch screens
From where I'm sitting, my 23" computer monitor consumes about three times the visual range of my 50" TV, and it's higher resolution too. I can even watch it while it's twin brings up this web page.
Ah, well, not everyone's computer chair is as comfy as mine, but if you think about how much more time you spend at the terminal, that doesn't make any damn sense now does it? Perhaps you need to learn how to browse from a reclining captain's chair?
Engage.
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because netflix looks like shit on a huge screen? hell it looks like shit fullscreen on a 23" monitor.
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What a contradictory, fallacious statement!! (Score:2)
One of the reasons could be that Netflix still uses Microsoft's Silverlight which is not supported on Linux. (emphasis mine)
You would think this alone is the reason, but wait...there's more: -
However Linux users have managed to get it to work on their distros.
So, the same Linux that isn't supported can have Netflix run after all!!
Now openSUSE users can also run Netflix using Pipelight."
Ohh my mistake! This is Slashdot, right?
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No Wine for Me (Score:2)
Wine may be perfectly crumulent, but I don't want it running on my network.
I'll wait until Netflix supports HTML 5, which should be fairly soon!
I would sooner buy a $35 Chromecast than install Windows emulation software (whether or not Wine is an emulator).
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Re: No Wine for Me (Score:2)
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I'll wait until Netflix supports HTML 5, which should be fairly soon!
They already do, but it requires a DRM module that doesn't work in Linux. Ironically, Linux users are pretty much the only ones still using the Silverlight plugin, all of the other platforms have switched to the HTML5 interface already.
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DRM module is available in Google Chrome on ChromeOS ... aka Linux. Running on x86 and ARM.
DRM module is available in the Netflix app on Android ... aka Linux. Running on x86 and ARM.
DRM module is not available in Google Chrome on any other Linux distro, though. Completely arbitrary limitation. Google Chrome is Google Chrome is Google Chrome, but Google limits the availability of the DRM module.
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Silverlight = security hole (Score:2)
Crap software from M$.
Business tip for Netflix (Score:2)
1) Set up a web page with the address http://netflix.com/linux/ [netflix.com] which helps customers to watch the flicks under Linux
2) Become a sponsor of the Moonlight project [mono-project.com]
3) ???
4) Profit!
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1) Become a sponsor of the Moonlight project [mono-project.com]
2) Become despised by both open and closed source communities alike.
3) ???
4) Go out of business.
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What part of the OSS licenses are they violating? How are they different from the 99.99% of the users of Open Source Software who don't contribute changes? If you are arguing that users of software "owe" the makers of software something, that's exactly how proprietary software vendors feel.
Netflix Android native app works fine in linux (Score:5, Interesting)
Install the Android x86 libs then download Netflix native android Linux app from google play and it runs on any Linux flavor smoother and simpler than pipe light wine hacks
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I thought netflix was for arm only. Will it even work in an emulator?
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There is Android X86 you can run in a virtual box on pc
http://www.android-x86.org/download [android-x86.org]
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Link to a how-to or it never happened. :)
Android? (Score:2)
Stupid (Score:2)
oh... (Score:2)
Silverlight doesn't work on MacOS either... (Score:3)
I've tried to use Netflix on my Mac when for some reason it doesn't work on the TV. It works fine for Safari, but Chrome, which is my default browser, results in jittery video, unwatchable. Admittedly, not MacOS's fault, but annoying nevertheless.
I mean really if I have to switch browsers, when Youtube works everywhere is just ... wrong...
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It's just some guy spamming his website here for page hits. Pipelight was already posted about here back in August [slashdot.org].
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The registrant of muktware.com in the summary link is Swapnil Bhartiya, which is administered through gandi.net by using a pseudo drop in a complex located at 4118 36th Street South, Apt A1, Arlington, Virginia [google.com].
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Yeah, muktware is not a great site for reliable information. They are in many ways like phoronix without the bench marking. He just trolls through rss feeds, twitter, and Google Plus posts for information, then writes a small blurb containing less information than the original source and often getting it wrong.
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In his defense, he means well.
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Various versions of Silverlight has been available for Linux for a long time. Not that anyone would want to use it. But lack of silverlight has nothing to do with them not supporting Linux.
And none of the open ones allow you to view Netflix [tumblr.com]
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Ironically while Netflix's infrastructure runs on Linux
And even Phoronix [phoronix.com] managed to get that one right...
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Chrome and Android, uses the Linux Kernel... However they are not GNU/Linux. Just like OS X isn't BSD.
The limitation that netflix placed on Linux, isn't technical where the Kernel just couldn't do the work, but legal and political.
GNU policy against DRM, while Netflix trying to get as many content providers as possible, is willing to accept that DRM Restriction as a trade off to give their customers more shows.
Google with Chrome and Android, are more open to allowing these restrictions to their systems, so
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...which is all refuted by a simple counterexample: MacOS.
Apple never bought into this bend over and say ahh deal which is why Macs support neither BluRay nor CableCard.
Yet they have Netflix player.
So it's clearly not "Linux hippies" that are the problem.
HELL. Two competing subscription streaming services run just fine on Linux (namely Amazon & Hulu).
Netflix upper management just decided to get into bed with Microsoft and make some poor technology choices. It has nothing to do with things "imposed exter
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