OKCupid Warns Off Mozilla Firefox Users Over Gay Rights 1482
PortWineBoy writes: "The Beeb is reporting that OkCupid is prompting Mozilla Firefox users to switch browsers over Brendan Eich's support of Prop 8 in California in 2008. Users are met with a message stating that OKCupid would prefer no one access their site with Mozilla software. Eich is the new CEO of Mozilla."
Re:More reason to keep using Firefox! (Score:2, Informative)
Longtime Firefox user here and traditional family values supporter. I don't even know what OKCupid is, have no plans to visit that site, will definitely keep using Firefox!
It's probably a dating site -- no interest in validating their behaviour by visiting the site and potentially generating ad revenue for them. It's just the latest Chik-Fil-A.
Summary correction needed (Score:4, Informative)
If he opposed Prop 8 he would have been in support of gay marriage, not opposed to it. Prop 8 was a California constitutional amendment to define marriage as between a man and a woman. I assume he was in support of Prop 8 and not opposed to it as indicated in the summary.
Re:Not necessarily hate (Score:4, Informative)
I was presenting a model in which that guy might have had the best of intentions, while still engaging in politics that some disagree with. In doing so, I was trying to argue that we shouldn't impugn his motives without more information.
Also, I was using the word "orthodox" in the lower-case. I didn't specifically mean the Russian / Eastern / Greek / etc. Orthodox denominations.
Re:Terrible precedent (Score:5, Informative)
There isn't anything wrong with the list of reason you give for boycotting.
You have posted the lamest slippery slope fallacy I have seen in a while.
And then for no damn reason at all, you bring Obama into it.
Geekoid's law:
Everyone without logic will eventually bring Obama up.
It is a crude marketing trick (Score:4, Informative)
But the page changed on April 1, right?
No. It changed on March 31. I think it is simply a marketing trick. Pretend to take a stand. Gets lots of buzz for free. Give the impression that you are still hip. Never mind that for the last year or two, Okcupid has been showing that they don't even care about their own user community. Function has been reduced drastically. Non-mainstream users have been marginalized. Forums are no longer monitored. The only communication that comes out is the occasional obvious lie. "We are working hard and making the site better for you!" (my removing all the features that you used and adding virtually nothing)
Re:Im all for human rights... (Score:5, Informative)
being gay is not a matter of religion
Romans 1
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. 28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.
It is very much a religious issue for many people.
Re:Wait... wha? (Score:3, Informative)
It's been pointed out these people are holding the same position President Obama did until about a year or so ago.
Re:Im all for human rights... (Score:4, Informative)
No. You are in grievous error. Civil unions do not [about.com] grant the same protections as civil marriage. [freedomtomarry.org] They are a second-class sort of union, and are far more discriminatory than merely not being permitted to sit in the front of the bus.
Re:You've missed the point (Score:4, Informative)
Using Firefox isn't acting against gay rights. Eich donated to an anti-gay marriage proposal, there's no evidence or even reason to believe that this is going to influence the company and its stance. Google on the other hand actively partakes in aggressive tax evasion and by using their software we are directly supporting that.
As to the logic that what he did was pretty assholish. I don't agree with it but I doubt we'd be supporting a campaign to get an atheist kicked off the board of a company in a highly religious country. There's a reason why it's better if we don't persecute people for holding views we disagree with, which is that it sets a precedent to persecute those whose views we agree with when they are in the minority.
Re:Wait... wha? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:April Fools stories are gay (Score:5, Informative)
But laying this at the feet of "The Left" much less Obama is utter horseshit
Not really, no. This tactic of destroying people's livehoods by virtue of internet slacktivism is unquestionably a page out of the leftist playbook.
You're kidding right?
If you think that only liberals boycott companies and people they disagree with, you are living in a cognitive bubble.
Re:April Fools stories are gay (Score:3, Informative)
So is eating a cheeseburger. [Exodus 23.19]
Re:April Fools stories are gay (Score:4, Informative)
"The Bible says that homosexuality is a sin period."
The bible actually says that wearing wool and linen at the same time is a sin, period. It says some wishy washy stuff that can be interpreted as homosexuality (only the male kind) being a sin, maybe, if you choose to interpret it that way.
I believe one of the main characters in the bible has something to say about casting stones that might be apropos though.