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German Intel Agency Helped NSA Tap Fiber Optic Cables In Germany 103

An anonymous reader writes Der Spiegel has written a piece on the extent of collaboration between Germany's intelligence agency, Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND), and the U.S.'s National Security Agency (NSA). The sources cited in the piece do reveal BND's enthusiastic collusion in enabling the NSA to tap fiber optic cables in Germany, but they seem inconclusive as to how much information from the NSA's collection activity in the country is actually shared between the NSA and BND. Of note is evidence that the NSA's collection methods do not automatically exclude German companies and organizations from their data sweep; intelligence personnel have to rectro-actively do so on an individual basis when they realize that they are surveilling German targets. Germany's constitution protects against un-warranted surveillance of correspondence, either by post or telecommunications, of German citizens in Germany or abroad and foreigners on German soil.
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German Intel Agency Helped NSA Tap Fiber Optic Cables In Germany

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  • by zedaroca ( 3630525 ) on Friday June 20, 2014 @10:28AM (#47281239)

    The BND can't spy on Germans, and the NSA can't spy on Americans, but they CAN spy on each other

    Except that it is illegal for anyone to spy on Germans, the NSA CAN'T do that from anywhere in the world without violating the German constitution. When they do it on German soil the Germans have the legal authority to arrest the criminals and they should do so. Not doing so is to disobey their laws and law enforcement duties. When the crimes against their citizens are committed from other countries, the appropriate thing to do would be to ask for the criminals extradition.

    It is the BND's job to keep their people safe from foreign criminals who violate their constitution, specially on their own territory. They are not doing their job properly and even if they claimed it as "leaked" information, they still would have to investigate if there are indications that the constitution is being violated.

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