Blackberry Moves Non-Handset Divisions Into New Business Unit 89
First time accepted submitter BarbaraHudson (3785311) writes The CBC is reporting that Blackberry has made preparations to abandon the phone market by spinning pieces of the business off into Blackberry Technology Solutions. From the article: "The unit ... includes QNX, the company that BlackBerry acquired and used to develop the operating system that became the platform for its new smartphones, and Certicom, a former independent Toronto-area company with advanced security software.
BTS will also include BlackBerry's Project Ion, which is an application platform focused on machine-to-machine Internet technology, Paratek antenna tuning technology and about 44,000 patents." When you have less market share than Windows Phone, it's time to throw in the towel ... or as they say in the new "lets not admit we screwed up" vernacular, "pivot to take advantage of new opportunities."
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no need for the "B" either (Score:2)
just rename the company Canadian Reliability And Progress, and use the obvious ticker acronym in the markets.
RIM is dead, long live RIM's patents (Score:2, Flamebait)
Let the race to purchase their Patent portfolio begin!
Who might have enough cash to purchase the biggest stick in the phone wars? Apple or Samsung. Like the highlander it seems there can be only one... then again the Highlander kept having sequels so we might see this fight again and again (yuck).
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what stick?
RIM's been trying to peddle these patents for licensing money for ages. anybody who thinks they might be of use probably already has a license quite cheap, because RIM has been desperate for any cash for quite some time.
Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (Score:5, Insightful)
I read TFA, and saw nothing about Blackberry supposedly trying to spin a screw-up as anything else. And I heard one of CBC's tech people discuss this move on CBC Radio 1 today. Again, there was nothing about Blackberry throwing in the towel, even on its handsets. In fact, the new one was reported to be garnering a fair bit of positive feedback. I have no idea whether that's true or not, but that is what was reported on CBC.
I'm not a Blackberry fanboi by any stretch of the imagination, in fact, my current and former phones are Samsung, but the summary offered above is dishonest...plain and simple.
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BlackBerry Ltd. has created a new business unit that will combine some of its most innovative technology and patent portfolio as the company focuses away from handheld devices[....]
Independent technology analyst Carmi Levy said the new unit reinforces the fact that Blackberry's days primarily as a handset vendor are behind it as it moves "very aggressively" toward a different business. "This is probably the most tangible evidence yet of the company's transition into something very different than it was eve
Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (Score:5, Insightful)
The summary is inaccurate from the first sentence on. There's a difference between "shifting focus" and "abandoning the market", even in the euphemistic language of business PR types. And the transition Levy was talking about was to a focus on business applications and away from general public, except in certain markets.
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After decimating their workforce, they're now hiring - but for non-hardware related services. For a company that renamed itself from RIM (R
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Thank you, my friend. As I noted in my original post, I'm no Blackberry fanboi. But I suspect a lot of the hatred coming from trolls on just about every tech site you can find has more to do with interested parties trying to drive down the company's value than from honest criticism.
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Some perspective [thenextweb.com]
Android and iOS accounted for 96.4 percent of all smartphone shipments in Q2 2014, leaving even less for the competition as the Google-Apple duopoly hit a new high. Android grew its share to 84.7 market share, while iOS fell to 11.7 percent, Windows Phone slipped to 2.5 percent, and BlackBerry tanked to 0.5 percent.
Even Windows Phone is selling 5x as many phones as Blackberry, and people are questioning the long-term viability of WinPhone.
And "Blackberry Shares Lead TSX". Come off it - if you read the article, it had nothing to do with phones:
The tech sector led advancers with BlackBerry Ltd. ahead 14 cents to $10.61 (Canadian) as the company said that it has created a new business unit that will combine some of its most innovative technology, including QNX embedded software, Certicom cryptography applications and its patent portfolio.
The story on blackberry buying the German security firm is more of the same - moving away from phone manufacturing and into software a
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You can't screw over your customers and not expect people to start looking at alternatives.
I considered a blackberry earlier this year, but it was so off the mainstream that I said to heck with it. If Blackberry had gone to android instead of qnx, I would
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Sure I'm playing with android. Given the choice of developing for blackberry or android, why would I play with a phone that's got almost zero market share?
What killed Blackberry: Terrible apps [cnn.com].
Many of the most popular apps on the iPhone and Android are nowhere to be found. There's no Instagram, Netflix (NFLX), Candy Crush or Google (GOOG) Maps. Many of the big-brand apps that do exist for BlackBerry, including Facebook, Twitter and WhatsApp, are infrequently updated and have received dismal reviews from users.
Meanwhile, BlackBerry news site BerryReview revealed last month that a single developer is responsible for 48,000, or 40%, of BlackBerry's apps. Some of those apps developed by Hong Kong outfit S4BB many seem legit and functional. But many of them are either generic clones of other apps or possess minimal usefulness.
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BlackBerry is also rapidly losing subscribers, so big app makers don't want to devote resources to a vanishing platform. But BlackBerry also gives free rein to small developers to fill its app store with spam apps.
Although the open-ended strategy may be mildly beneficial to BlackBerry and a few ambitious developers in the short term, encouraging such a large ratio of garbage apps to quality apps poses consequences in the long run: Smaller developers don't want to invest in BlackBerry, because it it's hard for consumers to stumble upon their apps in a diluted pool.
BlackBerry isn't a "competitor" to anybody any more. They sold fewer phones last year than in 2008 [theguardian.com]. And worse ...
analysts remained sceptical about the future of the firm formerly known as Research in Motion. "If you wouldn't lend money to buy BlackBerry, why would you lend money to BlackBerry?" queried Benedict Evans, of Enders Analysis.
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One major supplier, Jabil, warned in September that it might stop building parts for the company, which could completely kill off the handset business.
When such a critical supplier says they're thinking of bailing, there's no way to spin it.
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Oh wait, you can't. You've been perma-banned and have to troll anonymously via proxies. And "those other users who tore me apart?" Everyone knows it's you, again posting anonymously, because I tore apart your stupid hosts file crapola. BTW - why would anyone dare to use a hosts file that is produced by you? After all, you post anonymously, and one way to monetize your hosts file is to pu
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Please stay with the subject. Due to some unusual circumstances, I personally heard and read everything CBC reported on Blackberry yesterday. Your summary of what THEY said was not just inaccurate, it was deceitfully inaccurate.
You can thrash around all you want. The fact remains: you attempted to mislead members of this community. I have no idea why, and I couldn't care less. You are dishonest. Any further submissions by you should receive close scrutiny by Slashdot's editors.
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Independent technology analyst Carmi Levy said the new unit reinforces the fact that Blackberry's days primarily as a handset vendor are behind it as it moves "very aggressively" toward a different business.
"This is probably the most tangible evidence yet of the company's transition into something very different than it was even a year or two ago," Levy said.
"It suggests they are no longer as dependent on handset-based revenue as they once were and as a result they have both the financial foundation as well as the corporate organizational confidence to more concretely move away from those lines of businesses into areas that are largely based on its intellectual property."
He said the move was positive for Blackberry, noting that it has struggled with its product launches and faced stiff competition from other smartphone makers while it has received little credit for its range of capabilities, especially when it came to software.
We've seen this story before - a company decides to concentrate on software and services, and sells off their hardware lines. IBM and Lenovo with PCs, and now with servers, should ring a bell.
Blackberry moving all their IP into a separate business unit is the logical way to get ready to sell off their phone division for the maximum return. People have known for
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You're just drawing conclusions and without precedent.
That sentence doesn't parse. If you meant "without justification", there's plenty of justification - and actually no other conclusion is possible given the facts. Their handset operation's bleeding them dry, and both they and investors know it. The $965 million loss on the writedown of the Z10 inventory shows just how "out of touch" Blackberry is with what the market wants in a smartphone. The creation of a new business unit that houses all the IP but does not have a thing to do with manufacturing smartp
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Quit trying to change the subject. You attempted to use the CBC, which has a decent reputation for reporting tech intelligently and without bias, to lend spurious legitimacy to your own deceitful, misleading summary.
And quit repeating Levi's comment as though your original summary didn't misrepresent what he said.
I don't know what your issue is with Blackberry, and I couldn't care less. What I DO care about is that you're a liar who attempted to deceive Slashdot readers. I hope the people running th
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It's hard to survive as a platform if the market isn't big enough to justify 3rd party development. Yes I know it can run Android apps, - sort of. The reality simply may be that they can not get enough traction and sell enough units to justify the R&D it takes to turn out decent hardware and software. Lots of good PC operating systems died w
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they also were way behind on basic research into components. When the iPhone was first announced, RIM's engineers actually thought Apple was lying about the specs, that Apple couldn't get a touch screen at that resolution, with that much RAM and storage and CPU and GPU and radios, in that physical size, with a battery that would last as long as Apple claimed.
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Sorry, but this is difficult to believe. iPhone specs weren't anything special. In fact, high end WM phones had better hardware.
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back then it wasn't. other phones at the time might have had better specs on specific items, nobody was making a similar item, particularly with those physical dimensions.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/10/12/27/rim_thought_apple_was_lying_about_original_iphone_in_2007.html [appleinsider.com]
or google for other articles.
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Look, I had a HTC Universal which was released two bloody years before the iPhone. It was, of course, thicker, due to it having a pivot screen and a physical full QWERTY keyboard. Just without these the size would be the same. But that HTC phone had a somewhat larger display (and with higher resolution at that) and an interchangeable battery and a SD card slot.
iPhone was a downgrade to what was possible at the time.
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Yes, that's exactly why nobody buys iPhones [all models]. The technical specs are inferior to competing devices.
Anyway, your 2005 HTC Universal dimensions (from http://www.jawal123.com/-1108609633/en-us/htc-universal [jawal123.com])
128mm × 81mm × 25 mm = 259 cubic centimeters
2007 iPhone dimensions (from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone [wikipedia.org])
115x61x11.6mm = 81.3 cubic centimeters
less than 1/3 the volume of your HTC Universal
that's why RIM's engineers couldn't believe. Stuffing that much stuff in that small a pac
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It would have to be long enough for developers to decide they can't wait
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Ehh, a bit adhomenim for my tastes. TFA makes a bit point about how important "IP" is to the new outfit. In the CEO's own words "...people don't give us credit..." which is code for - we're not making enough money from selling hardware, and lookie here at all these wonderful patents we can use to generate licenses fees or sell as an asset.
Moving valuable assets into one division will help (Score:1)
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Blackberry: Gone in a year since 2010
Their demise, I presume, will coincide with the year of the Linux desktop and strong AI.
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return the bonuses!! (Score:1)
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Time to throw in the towel when it's the first time in years the company is making a profit? Why the fuck would BlackBerry want to do that?
Because it's the first time in years the company is making a profit? Won't that mean they'd get more for it?
Yes, people have been predicting doom for Blackberry for a while, but it's hard to see some big turnaround on the horizon, with millions of people abandoning Apple and Android.
(My, how times change. The first iPhone came out a little over seven years ago, to widespread mockery: "It has no keyboard!" "It's too expensive!" "Businesses and government will never abandon their Blackberries!" And now Blackb
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Might I suggest that it's a business, not a tv movie. At least for the short term, the only benchmark is profitability not market dominance with all the stars laughing at the end.
What makes a viable business? Must valuations be 300 or more billions?
In all of these Blackberry analyses, is the rest of the world (outside of the US) not enough to bank on a specific strategy? Could they leverage their other IPs to build a business. I don't know.
I'm generally surprised that the critques never delve into why t
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Well, this is slashdot - what else are we supposed to do? If we weren't griping, sniping, and tearing everything down, we might actually go out and create something freakin' amazing!
Yes BarbaraHudson is an absolute idiot (Score:1)
Plus a multiple sockpuppet account using fraudster on slashdot + known admitted troll http://news.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org]
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Thanks for that. I'm not used to seeing Slashdot submitters who are outright liars.
The thing is, I happened to be home today, so I heard everything CBC had to say about this story, and I read what they put up on their site, too. Sock Puppet BarbaraHudson's summary simply did not match what was reported. It did, however, bear a close enough resemblance to make it obvious the deception was not accidental.
Blackberry Android Phone with Physical Keyboard (Score:2)
All the android makers have abandoned the high end keyboard phone. It's a niche that needs filling. It's not going to reinvigorate the handset side of the company, but would help pay some bills with minimal investment.
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Okay, you've made your point. There's no reason to keep repeating it. We understand that you can prove that the submitter is deceitful, etc., etc.
Now can we please get on to discussing content and ideas?