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Open Source Craft Brewery Shares More Than Recipes 50

Jason Hibbets writes An open source craft brewery in Saint Paul, Minnesota is taking open source beyond sharing recipes. The goal for Tin Whiskers Brewing Company is to "engage and give back to the community by sharing an inside look at opening and operating a craft brewery." In this interview with co-founder George Kellerman, we learn a little more about why the trio of hobbyists who started the brewing company took the path to becoming professional brewers and why they decided to be more open. "The brewery community was extremely helpful and open, so being open ourselves seemed like a great way to honor that," Kellerman said.
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Open Source Craft Brewery Shares More Than Recipes

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  • Free as in (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 01, 2014 @10:59AM (#48497833)

    BEER!

    • by xevioso ( 598654 )

      Why is this even an article? The local brewcraft shop down the street has dozens of great recipes, and they will even make one up for you on the spot when you order the ingredients for a 5-gallon batch of beer. They have a small area where you can grab a copy of many of their past recipes for beer as you walk out the door. Big deal. It's my understanding this is quite common. Why is this an article again?

  • More the recipes. Really?
  • All your the base are belong to the us.
  • Don't get you open source business loans. Let's be honest: banks and investors decide what local businesses are going to happen, except in the case of people who are already rich.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 01, 2014 @11:14AM (#48497973)

    The recipes lack IBUs as well as grain percentages which are needed to actually produce one of these "recipes". Sure a good brewer could pretty easily guess for basic styles but is still a far cry from open source. Its like having a specification for an engine be "iron, steel, gaskets, crankshaft"

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      I believe it is traditional for "free beer" to not compile properly on the first version.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Beer

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      The "Open Source" part is complete bullshit. There is tons of freely available information about brewing, recipes and how to start a brewery.

      http://www.probrewer.com

      They are doing nothing new except being pretentious about it.

  • The real questions is, what can't be open source :o
  • This is not new (Score:5, Informative)

    by MpVpRb ( 1423381 ) on Monday December 01, 2014 @11:34AM (#48498165)

    Vinnie Cilurzo of Russian River published a homebrew recipe for Pliny the Elder along with a detailed description of how he designed it

    Mitch Steele of Stone wrote a book on IPA which included recipes for many of Stone's beers

    Craft brewing and homebrewing have a long and interconnected history

    Many craft brewers started as homebrewers and many craft breweries own homebrew supply stores and support homebrew clubs

    The craft brewers I have visited freely answered any questions I asked

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Northern Brewer sells a full line of pro series kits [probrewer.com] that were designed with the various brew masters.

      • by xevioso ( 598654 )

        You will note that Mr. Cilurzo has not published recipes for Pliny the Younger, which causes people to foolishly camp outside the brewery and go on ridiculous searches for the beer as soon as rumors abound that it is in season.

        --Jeremy

        • by blueg3 ( 192743 )

          PtY is not difficult to reverse-engineer. It's expensive to make, though, and the ratio of beer nerds to homebrewers is high enough that making it yourself doesn't really put a dent in their market.

    • by blueg3 ( 192743 )

      Many crafter brewers will simply give you their recipes -- or at least, the important details -- if you e-mail them and ask.

  • Comment removed (Score:5, Interesting)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Monday December 01, 2014 @11:35AM (#48498191)
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    • by Ellis D. Tripp ( 755736 ) on Monday December 01, 2014 @11:49AM (#48498351) Homepage

      strains they use to brew each beer:

      Short Circuit Stout--Wyeast 1084 (Irish Ale)
      Flip Switch APA--Wyeast 1272 (American Ale II)
      Wheatstone Bridge--Wyeast 1010 (American Wheat)
      Ampere Amber--Wyeast 2112 (California Lager)
      Schottky Pumpkin--Wyeast 2035 (American Lager)

      All commercially available to anyone who wants them:

      https://www.wyeastlab.com/ [wyeastlab.com]

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        • by blueg3 ( 192743 )

          That's only true if you propagate yeast (internally) for many generations. You can also buy yeast, which a lot of brewers do because it saves them the trouble of doing careful quality control on a microbial culture.

          It's also possible to acquire other brewers' yeasts unless they filter or sterilize their beer. Yeast labs do this on a regular basis and then sell it to other breweries (and to homebrewers). The yeast from The Alchemist, for example, is available from a couple of different companies now.

          Only a h

      • Moreover, most craft beers are unfiltered making it trvial to harvest yeast straight from the bottle.
    • by QRDeNameland ( 873957 ) on Monday December 01, 2014 @12:05PM (#48498521)

      From my understanding, the most successful breweries are not as concerned about their recipes being stolen because they have a proprietary yeast strain that they own and no one else can get.

      Not to mention...not all breweries are the same. For instance, many German brewers use a traditional method called decoction mashing where portions of the mash are drawn off and boiled and then returned to the main mash to raise the temperatures for various enzymatic reactions, which will yield malty flavors that are difficult to achieve otherwise. Very few breweries outside Europe have this capability, in fact many smaller US craft breweries only allow for one step infusion mashing (hot water added to grain where the mash can only have one temperature stage) which limits the kinds of malts that can be used as the lightest and least modified malts require multiple stages of temperature rests. This is why it is exceeding rare for N. American breweries to be able to fully reproduce the flavors of e.g., a German Pils.

      So much of brewing relies on process that just knowing the "recipe" (i.e., just the specific ingredients) is not a guarantee of being able to reproduce the beer.

      • by Kjella ( 173770 )

        Very few breweries outside Europe have this capability, in fact many smaller US craft breweries only allow for one step infusion mashing (hot water added to grain where the mash can only have one temperature stage) which limits the kinds of malts that can be used as the lightest and least modified malts require multiple stages of temperature rests.

        Somehow I find that hard to believe, as even my buddy's little home brew machine can do that. All you need is a temperature sensor and timer hooked up to the heating element, a typical schema looks like "52C/15 min, 64C/20 min, 72C/20 min, 77C/5 min". Heck, you can even do it manually with an egg timer but if you only have a simple cut-off temperature switch I'd rather go with a simplified scheme like "66C/60 min" and spend that hour doing something else. I can't really imagine industrial equipment without

        • Don't know what to tell you, but I've toured I-don't-know-how-many US/Canadian brewpubs and they were all single-step infusion set ups. I can't speak to your buddy's homebrew machine, but in many ways a home brewery can be much more flexible than a small commercial brewery. Generally speaking, to do proper step-mashing you need a separate vessel for heating the mash in addition to the lautering vessel, which is obviously more costly and takes up more space. You can do limited step mashing in a single mas

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  • I read this headline thinking that shares of a publicly traded beer brewing company somehow became sentient and used the pager "more" to view recipes.
  • by Anonymous Coward
    Their recipe diagrams leave a lot of critical information out... like ingredient quantities, water chemistry, and how their boil kettle magically gets the wort from boiling, down to ~150F before hitting the heat exchanger. That is some magic i'd certainly like in my home brewery.
  • More hops (Score:4, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 01, 2014 @11:44AM (#48498291)

    The secret to craft brewing beer?

    1. Take any beer recipe.
    2. Add additional hops!
    3. Add even more hops!!
    4. Oh so much more hops!!!
    5. Profit!!!!
  • This may be an unpopular opinion, but IMO, brewing beer is pretty easy. It's not like there is a lot of information to "open source" like in a modern operating system. Seems stupid to even call it "source" unless you are giving away free yeast or something.

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