US Links North Korea To Sony Hacking 182
schwit1 writes Speaking off the record, senior intelligence officials have told the New York Times, CNN, and other news agencies that North Korea was "centrally involved" in the hack of Sony Pictures Entertainment. It is not known how the US government has determined that North Korea is the culprit, though it is known that the NSA has in the past penetrated North Korean computer systems. Previous analysis of the malware that brought down Sony Pictures' network showed that there were marked similarities to the tools used in last year's cyber-attack on South Korean media companies and the 2012 "Shamoon" attack on Saudi Aramco. While there was speculation that the "DarkSeoul" attack in South Korea was somehow connected to the North Korean regime, a firm link was never published.
with what? (Score:3, Funny)
Their vic 20's?
Re:with what? (Score:5, Interesting)
The official line so far is "The DPRK is responsible, but the attack originated from somewhere else".
"Responsible" most likely means hired someone to do it. Knowing the DPRK they probably paid those someones in reasonably good quality counterfeit US currency. Though that is pure speculation on my part bast on past news events.
The fact they won't tell us form where else means "China" again pure speculation on my part but common its not like DPRK has exactly normal relations with anywhere else. They would tell us if it was some other pariah regime some place, so I assume it has to be China as its the only place I can think of that DPRK would have access and would be to politically sensitive to name.
Keep in mind, I can't recall if it was 2k11 or 2k12 but the Obama admin did not exactly dispute the pentagons view that "cyber" attacks could/should be viewed as an act of war. The "terror" threats against theaters have escalated things from a criminal matter, attack on a corporation, to a state matter attack on the public and order; therefore some kind of "response" is required. I am sure 0bama is trying to find a way to "do something" or appear to be without pissing off the Chinese.
Which to now purely editorialize, I think pissing off the Chinese and souring trade relations would/could be the best possible outcome here for our nation but that is a different discussion.
Re:with what? (Score:5, Insightful)
So the US has committed acts of war against Germany by tapping their head of state's phone, etc. Or is it only an act of war when it's against US interests?
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Surveillance is surveillance, aggression is aggression. We have living spies in Germany and it isn't seen as grounds for war, and Germany has living spies in D.C. and it isn't seen as grounds for war.
Modern diplomacy consists of a massive amount of non-destructive espionage, days of bickering between diplomats, and then 5-minute photo-opportunities between elected officials. The first two are not publicized, but are much more important to continued peace than the P.M. and President blathering on stage.
"Cy
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Re:with what? (Score:4)
Yes.
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Iran is free, as a sovereign nation, to respond to Stuxnet in any way they see fit. But they know that escalating the situation will probably go poorly for them.
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The US didn't say "If you use your phone, we'll blow you up"
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The US actually did say that, in a way.
https://www.techdirt.com/artic... [techdirt.com]
Of course that's in the context of asymmetrical war in poor, failed state countries.
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So the US has committed acts of war against Germany by tapping their head of state's phone, etc. Or is it only an act of war when it's against US interests?
That story was a hoax.
No proof so far that NSA bugged Merkel's phone: prosecutor [reuters.com]
Germany's top public prosecutor said an investigation into suspected tapping of Chancellor Angela Merkel's mobile phone by U.S. spies had so far failed to find any concrete evidence.
On Wednesday he said however, "the document presented in public as proof of an actual tapping of the mobile phone is not an authentic surveillance order by the NSA. It does not come from the NSA database.
"There is no proof at the moment which could lead to charges that Chancellor Merkel's phone connection data was collected or her calls tapped."
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What you have demonstrated is that there is no politically acceptable proof, not that it didn't happen, and not that the document did not match something from the NSA database.
I haven't followed this, so I don't really have an opinion one way or the other, but what you have provided does not constitute proof that it was a hoax.
Re:with what? (Score:5, Interesting)
The official line so far is "The DPRK is responsible, but the attack originated from somewhere else".
"Responsible" most likely means hired someone to do it. Knowing the DPRK they probably paid those someones in reasonably good quality counterfeit US currency. Though that is pure speculation on my part bast on past news events.
The fact they won't tell us form where else means "China" again pure speculation on my part but common its not like DPRK has exactly normal relations with anywhere else. They would tell us if it was some other pariah regime some place, so I assume it has to be China as its the only place I can think of that DPRK would have access and would be to politically sensitive to name.
Russia also fits the bill, although I'm not surprised that you didn't know that. Russia still has reasonably friendly relations with North Korea and shares a small border with it where North Korean "guest workers" (really slave labor) do logging and perhaps some other manual work on the Russian side for little pay and without any choice in the matter. Putin just recently said he was looking to improve relations between the two countries. North Korea spent years playing its patrons the Soviet Union and China off each other. The USSR and China had strained relations for many years and North Korea leaned towards whichever side at the time it could get more money out of. The Soviet Union gave them their first nuclear reactor and the training necessary that put them, if unintentionally, on the path to getting nuclear weapons. Boris Yeltsin had the good sense a long time ago to stop all payments to North Korea, basically saying "Too bad. So sad." They've never been resumed. So he left China holding the bag for being 100% responsible for financially propping up the regime. Kim Jong-Un's father was actually born in Russia, although official reports in North Korea deny this. And his grandfather was a Russian military officer during the 2nd World War and became the eventual dictator of North Korea because Russia's first choice for the job turned it down and grandpa Kim seemed loyal enough to the Soviet Union to be a really good back up choice. So while Russian-North Korean ties don't get much press, Russia gets all of the benefits, whatever they are, of being "friends" with North Korea without any of the costs that China got stuck with.
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I agree certainly if the official line turns out to be untrue than the rest of my thinking has to be tossed out along with it. I also agree they ought to release code and show the analysis.
Trouble is if it does implicate the Chinese they have keep it under wraps for the same reasons they won't come out and say "China" in the first place. So we don't have a good way to know if its all a false flag to justify the surveillance state as I think your suggesting or if they are being truthful with us. At least
I don't see the big deal here. (Score:4, Interesting)
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Sony Pictures Entertainment and Sony Computer Entertainment are two totally separate companies that for all intents and purposes are completely disconnected at all but the most senior executive levels (the C-Suite).
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You've never worked for a large corporation, have you?
It's a media company. (Score:2, Funny)
First, by media company's accounting standard (GAMSB), this hack cost the USA and Sony many trillions of dollars. Why we are not all running around naked and in the dark is because of the quick thinking of the FBI and other Feds to protect us from this horrendous crime against humanity.
I am so glad they did because we all know that hacks against media companies are the true threats to the security and freedom of the USA and NOT violent bombings, attacks on our interests in other countries, and attacks on o
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Yes, it sucks to be an employee (or ex-employee) of Sony too. Or a member of their families.
From the article in Variety [variety.com]
Perhaps you didn't realize the full implications
Re:I don't see the big deal here. (Score:5, Insightful)
Right, I think that's the important difference here if there is one. In general I agree with the GP post cyber security should be the responsibility of the network/computer operator not the government. Costs should be born by the victims and their insurers; or by the perps when they can be identified and brought to justice as a general principle.
In this case though we have a threat of violence and terror on top of the simpler criminal matter. These guys are not threatening to just empty a few bank accounts and embarrass some more celebrities. They have moved from the realm of nuisance crimes to violent crimes and the state definitely has an interest preserving public safety.
As to how credible the threat is and should we be reacting to every threat to do violence out there, well I would say they have displayed at least enough capability to hack a major corporation that no doubt has a security team. They also have at least some financial resources backed by the DPRK. So this isn't an angsty 14 year old on facebook. Do I think they can project themselves into the physical world they way they claim, probably not, but its probably not worth risking that by just ignoring them entirely either.
Re:I don't see the big deal here. (Score:5, Interesting)
Not as expensive if you only count money.
But in my experience, the problem is the upper executives and their insistence on special exceptions for them and their people who are doing work that is just so important that they cannot be burdened with following the security that applies to non-important people.
I think that this reinforces the wrong lesson. Everything is okay as long as you can find someone else to blame. Whether it's an employee or a hacker group or a country. The focus will be more on THEM rather than Sony executives who broke security so that they could feel more important than the nerds in IT.
Re:I don't see the big deal here. (Score:5, Insightful)
If North Korea bombed Sony in Japan, It would be US responsibility.
The bigger issue here is that there is an other country fighting to prevent free speech. By taking down and *Threatening* them. This isn't some small set of wackos but an actual government. So it is a big deal.
I didn't want to see the movie, but now I do just to make a point.
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Japan HAS a military. Or at least a navy.
History [wikipedia.org]. It's an interesting concept.
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Japan has Self-Defense Forces. Not armed forces. Really. It says so on the little sticker on the missile launcher.
That's how the legalities work, anyway.
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Missiles? Yes. ICBMs? No. Missiles capable of carrying one of their nukes? Not really. They could hit Japan or SK if they were lucky, but not likely with a nuke as their nukes are freaking huge (like WWII huge...).
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I would love to see the missile that could carry their Fat Boy style 5000lb or so nuclear weapons...though I guess they could drive a truck in with that...though it would be easy to stop...
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I read it somewhere, but looking at a few Google searches comes up with this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L... [wikipedia.org]
The yield is tiny compared to anyone's nukes.
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According to this BBC article, the most recent (2013) test was claimed to have miniaturized the warhead to make it small enough to put on a missile, but prior to that, they were known to be large weapons:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-... [bbc.com]
As I said, I read it somewhere that their weapons were large, but I am still unable to find the article I read.
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Well, it is funny in a funny sense. The real problem is it showed the fragility of American media companies (movie chains) to blackmail and exposes a problem with freedom of speech. When an outside power can effect freedom of speech to this extent, it becomes a serious issue.
Writ large, someone mentioned it was probably the insurance companies that put a stop to the showing of the film. That lesson will no go unnoticed by other bad actors in the world.
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Management feels it is better not to secure.
"A quote from a sony cio interview from 2007 regarding security sums up the problem and assures this type of mess will continue...
"The cost to harden the legacy database against a possible intrusion could come to $10 million, he says. The cost to notify customers in case of a breach might be $1 million. With those figures, says Spaltro, âoeitâ(TM)s a valid business decision to accept the riskâ of a security breach. âoeI will not invest $10 mill
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Very few individuals, and only a few small to medium business have the resources to fully protect themselves and still carry on business against a state level attack. Unreported zero-day bugs can be horded for use in a major incursion of the biggest players.
Pretty much you need to have small air-gapped networks for work on any great sensitivity to have a fighting chance. It is pretty fricking hard to do much of anything of value under those circumstances.
The upshot is that, as a world, we need to reign th
Of course they do (Score:5, Insightful)
Of course it's known. The same way they established that Iraq had chemical weapons. The method is known as "because we say so".
Are You Joking? (Score:4, Interesting)
> It is not known how the US government has determined that North Korea is the culprit
Of course it's known. The same way they established that Iraq had chemical weapons. The method is known as "because we say so".
Are you joking? I thought it was well established that there were chemical weapons in Iraq [slashdot.org] we just only found weapons designed by us, built by Europeans in factories in Iraq. And therefore the US didn't trumpet their achievements. In the case of Iraqi chemical weapons, the US established that Iraq had chemical weapons not because they said so but because Western countries had all the receipts.
Re:Are You Joking? (Score:5, Informative)
But that wasn't the claim. The claim was that Iraq had a program and was building new weapons. They claimed that Iraq was dodging the UN weapon inspectors by giving them the US made munitions and keeping their new program in trailer based mobile facilities. No evidence to back up any of those claims was ever found. As far as I know, every chemical weapon that has been found in Iraq has been accounted for under the US sales program.
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They didn't purposely deceive people, because they didn't care whether it was true or not. If that had known their claims were false, that would have been purposeful deception. However they didn't care whether the claims were true or false, but only that they were useful That's probably a bit worse than intentional deception.
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The claim was that Iraq had a program and was building new weapons.
Hell, the claim made publicly to the world was that Iraq had a nuclear weapons program and had acquired nuclear material and was acquiring more.
Poor Colin Powell. A promising future destroyed by being an active part of an insane administration.
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Maybe you are too young to remember the "Mobile Chemical Weapons Labs" that were reportedly driving around mad scientists who were allegedly creating nerve agent while in a moving truck. We had "pickshures" and everything on CNN, though they strangely looked like water tankers and regular old semi tracker/trailers that all military units have.
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They were actually mobile kitchens, and, given the rather poor nutritional status of the Iraqi military, it is not unreasonable to assume they represented WMDs.
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There were some journalists in Iraq shortly after the invasion. Some of the alleged "Iraq burried their mobile WMD labs" were old oil tankers, some were old water trucks, and as you stated many were mobile kitchens still driving around. What we call a "roach coach".
That people continue to believe everything some TV station tells them in regards to "terrorism" and "war" is really quite sad. The last is not targeted at you obviously (or at least I hope it's obvious).
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They were actually mobile kitchens, and, given the rather poor nutritional status of the Iraqi military, it is not unreasonable to assume they represented WMDs.
Somebody has to say it .. depends on what they were cooking. A badly-made pilaf with some off-colour meat, and that's a division out of circulation while they run to the latrines.
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What to do? (Score:2)
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How many people in North Korea have access to a DVD player?
We should sent in Seal Team Six paratroopers in... to do a theater reenactment.
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Sony should upload "the Interview" to torrent servers and distribute it for free.
And you should give me your car.
Speaking off the record (Score:5, Insightful)
Speaking off the record
Let me fix that for you...
Obviously speaking on the record, but with sufficient disclaimers to not be held legally accountable according to literal interpretation of the law
Re:Speaking off the record (Score:4, Insightful)
We can't take any US intelligence or claims seriously any more. WMD? Torture? Rendition? Sorry bro, you lied too many times.
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This.
I'd like to see some actual evidence that NK was behind this, and not evidence put forth by Sony or the US government.
Until then I'll believe any the following are more likely scenarios.
Some hacker group unaffiliated with any government just wanted to fuck Sony.
Some Sony employees just wanted to fuck Sony.
The US government wanted to false flag North Korea. The timing of this (and the Cuba fiasco) is hilariously convenient - Congress just approved the ridiculous budget, there are no more elections for
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An excellent breakdown of the "breach". [riskbasedsecurity.com]
FBI saying that North Korea was not involved [reuters.com]
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That person never said they trusted North Korea. For me I don't trust either one as far as I can throw an elephant. North Korea for obvious reasons and US intelligence for lying about torturing people.
How do we know? (Score:5, Insightful)
Why should we believe anything the "senior intelligence officials" tell us? They have a profound record of lying.
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Why should we believe anything the "senior intelligence officials" tell us? They have a profound record of lying.
Occam's Razor. It's pretty clear to the rest of us that a hero-worshiping despotic regime like North Korea might lash out against a company- or movie theaters- making a comedy about killing their national hero/despot.
That leads to my question- are you posting from Pyongyang?
Re:How do we know? (Score:5, Funny)
That leads to my question- are you posting from Pyongyang?
Yes, yes I am. After spending years scouring the Internet, my small team of l88t Haxors realized that only one account, on one site, had the propaganda value we needed. It was DoofusOfDeath@slashdot.org. We're sure to get a second serving of rice balls for this exploit! Long live the god Kim Jung Un!
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So the people in North Korea have access to the media to know about this movie and the internet access to wage these attacks? That doesn't sound like the North Korea I've ever heard of.
The upper levels of the NK government have access to the Internet; they always have. The state certainly has Internet ties. North Korea is poor and disconnected, yes... that is, the citizens of North Korea are. The elites, they most certainly are not. Keeping an entire populace THAT in the dark, and keeping the rest of the world in the dark about the country, requires some sophistication.
This is also why if a sophisticated hacking attempt came from North Korea, it would have to be government-sponsored. They
Makes Sense (Score:1)
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Threats are cheap. Is there even any evidence they come from the same source as the original hack? (Mind you, I have no idea who did it, and don't believe anything the government says anymore unless they have verifyable evidence to prove it.)
Now once someone *acts* on one of those threats, then there will be more belief that it was done with someone with either excessive zeal or lots of backing. Right now even that's lacking. Threats on the internet are so common that they've *got* to be ignored, even t
Feelless Reader reaps Streisand Effect (Score:2)
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Re:An alternative is.... (Score:4, Funny)
Except in Texas they think Team America World Police is a documentary.
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Any proof? (Score:1)
Too bad the hackers that previously hacked the german GEMA did not download and leak everything they found. This company needs to die.
Sad to say (Score:5, Interesting)
I don't know what to believe. On one hand, we have Sony. On the other, North Korea. Finally, the FBI.
Shit, they're probably all lying their asses off.
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I know, but.. Sony, North Korea and the FBI. Not exactly a triumvirate of trust.
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When they lie every time they open their mouth it gets to be a habit. After a while it's just standard operating procedure.
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Are getting ready to bomb them? (Score:3)
Sooner or Later ... (Score:2)
Someone is going to have to dismantle the Pandora's box that is the DPRK.
S. Korea and the US have been putting it off for decades and China is finally getting PO'd and worried a N. Korea fall will result in millions crossing their border instantly looking for food.
It couldn't cost as much as Afganistan.
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"It couldn't cost as much as Afganistan."
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Don't worry. When the governments keep changing eventually you get a real winner at the head. I'm still expecting India and Pakistan, or some other pair of "friendly neighbors" to put the nuclear autumn model to the test. Unless something worse happens first. Hopefully, however, not this decade.
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China may be frustrated with the DPRK, but by-and-large, China is able to control the stability of most of the entire pacific rim region by proxy through North Korea.
Someone else already mentioned the inevitable razing of Seoul that will occur when the Korean war goes hot again. The situation is a mess, and the only resolution that won't result in the ROK getting toasted is a slow decaying collapse in the North.
Dubious because facts (Score:5, Informative)
Marc Rogers [marcrogers.org] disagrees strongly, and poitns at a long list of evidence that make it much more likely that it was a vengeful inside-job badly disguised into a Nork attack for unrelated publicity added-value: ... and more.
- elements of language that do not fit north-korean lingo
- hardcoded filepaths indicating insider knowledge
- social-network savvyness unlike anything the DPRK ever did
- no mention of The Interview movie until after the possible tie with DPRK was suggested
Re:Dubious because facts (Score:4, Insightful)
One thing mentioned in Marc Rogers article that I am also surpassed at is how do you miss that much data flying out of your network?
A couple of years ago I was a customer site and had to download and install some updates onto an HMI system. Less than 5 minutes after starting this, my client's IT people had connected to the system in question and were poking around trying see why that device had suddenly started consuming network resources. Their attempts to shut it down were annoying to me, but at least they were on the ball when it came to knowing what was normal and what was not normal on their network.
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Damned auto correct. Surprised.
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That was my reaction as well a week ago when the new broke. I actually heard on the NBC Nightly news first and the moment Williams said TB of data; the first thought I had was how do you ex-filtrate that much info without it being noticed by the NOC team?
The only think I can think of is that largish transfers are probably very common for them as they push media assets out to contractors etc. Still you wonder why are they not MTIMing everything in what is essentially an all IP business and why can'
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To top it, I really just don't see what DPRK has to gain from all this.
It's a bit too much to go just to get a movie off the screen.
Besides, the hack didn't get the movie off the theater, it was the ambiguous warning on pastebin (which really, anybody could do).
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"It's a bit too much to go just to get a movie off the screen."
This is the country that's detonated nuclear bombs, sunk warships with torpedos, and fired artillery barrages at it's neighbours civilian villages, and leaked lists of thousands of civilian bank customers details just because it hasn't been given enough attention for a week like a petulent little child.
Nothing is a bit much for North Korea, if the Kim dynasty's fragile little egos are upset then you can expect an extreme reaction. This is the fa
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OK, if they'd thought of it they'd have wanted to do it. That's hardly proof they did it.
Re:Dubious because facts (Score:4, Interesting)
Honestly, Marc Rogers' analysis is fucking awful. It's entirely speculation - it's no different to your average Slashdot post where someone is just stating their opinion and passing it off as fact. Examples:
"1. The broken English looks deliberately bad and doesnâ(TM)t exhibit any of the classic comprehension mistakes you actually expect to see in âoeKonglishâ. i.e it reads to me like an English speaker pretending to be bad at writing English."
Really? Please expand on that. Please give examples. To me it looks like just about every other piece of broken English I've seen online. Simply declare it not such without explaining why is not an argument.
"2. The fact that the code was written on a PC with Korean locale & language actually makes it less likely to be North Korea. Not least because they donâ(TM)t speak traditional âoeKoreanâ in North Korea, they speak their own dialect and traditional Korean is forbidden."
Interesting, but hardly stone cold evidence. If it was a North Korean spy that's trained in South Korean because they were behind the past hacks on South Korea then they may find that this is the easiest configuration for them. Is the North Korean dialect even a configuration option? If not then what else could they use? English? I'd guess not given how broken their English is.
"3. Itâ(TM)s clear from the hard-coded paths and passwords in the malware that whoever wrote it had extensive knowledge of Sonyâ(TM)s internal architecture and access to key passwords. While itâ(TM)s plausible that an attacker could have built up this knowledge over time and then used it to make the malware, Occamâ(TM)s razor suggests the simpler explanation of an insider. It also fits with the pure revenge tact that this started out as."
Again, entirely just speculation, poor use of Occam's razor. Occam's razor doesn't suggest it was an insider out to get Sony any more than it suggests the attackers simply spent a bit of time surveilling their target before following through with the hack. This argument again adds nothing.
"4. Whoever did this is in it for revenge. The info and access they had could have easily been used to cash out, yet, instead, they are making every effort to burn Sony down."
Isn't this an argument FOR it being North Korea rather than against given that North Korea has vocally made it clear that they're unhappy with Sony over the film? If anything this is an argument in favour of it being North Korea.
"5. The attackers only latched onto âoeThe Interviewâ after the media did â" the film was never mentioned by GOP right at the start of their campaign."
Sure and North Korea spent a few days figuring out whether to admit responsibility or not rather than outright denying it. It's now becoming the defining point of their campaign which seemed to be something North Korea was keen on - if it was the internal employee theory then why has Rogers' now changed his mind about maximising damage? Simply making Sony cancel a $42million film is small fry damage - an inside job would focus on continuing to be far more damaging than that. But to follow on this same point:
"After all, if everyone believes itâ(TM)s a nation state, then the criminal investigation will likely die."
What? Why? The FBI will just give up if it's thought to be a nation state? No, on the contrary it'll be escalated to the CIA and NSA. This point doesn't even make sense.
"6. Whoever is doing this is VERY net and social media savvy. That, and the sophistication of the operation, do not match with the profile of DPRK up until now."
Um, you mean they can use Twitter? So can half the child population of this world. Unless there's a suggestion that North Koreans are inferior people with IQ's less than your average child and who couldn't possibly look at what's worked for other succesful hacker groups like anonymous then this point is monumentally stupid.
"7. Finally, blaming North Korea is the easy way
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Sony, doesn't exactly have a stellar network security record either. This very well could be any hacker group looking for LULZ. I mean all this about the movie and North Korea, particularly if it eventually comes out to BS is pretty funny (and sounds like a movie itself). As to the threats, that well could be copycats etc... and people overreacting to some 12 year old's idle threats...
The implications could be dire (Score:3)
We've seen the US go to war from much less "evidence". Can you say "WMD in Iraq"?
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What??? No, that's silly. The US is not going to war because they can't watch a Seth Rogan movie. The Hobbit? Maybe. Star Wars, definitely. But not this.
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http://uk.reuters.com/article/... [reuters.com]
We've seen the US go to war from much less "evidence". Can you say "WMD in Iraq"?
Iraq of course being a more profitable target, not stuck right up against China and not having as a leader 'The one Daddy let get away'.
Between the lines (Score:2)
Sony's hack is their problem. Threats, though.... (Score:2)
smuggly satisfied! (Score:2)
While I don't support hacking into anybodies computers, I'd have to say that That after The Sony BMG CD copy protection rootkit scandal [wikipedia.org] which involved a form of hacking on their part and cpyright infringement, the file sharing lawsuit against common people, the lawsuits from the artists to get a fairshare of damages Sony has won in filesharing, and the general asshattery involved in the entertainment industry, it's hard to be sympathetic to them; karma is a bitch when you are. North Korea on the other han
Make fun of them as much as possible (Score:3)
Go see the movie (Score:2)
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Or (Score:3)
To quote Mike Masnick of Techdirt:
I can't help but feel that there's a kid in a basement somewhere yelling, "OMFG, I killed a movie!"
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To quote Mike Masnick of Techdirt:
I can't help but feel that there's a kid in a basement somewhere yelling, "OMFG, I killed a movie!"
...then 3 years later gets sent to Gitmo by Jeb Bush.
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Ha!
Sounds about right...
bah (Score:3)
Where is Team America when you really need them?
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Where is Team America when you really need them?
"The Alamo Drafthouse movie theater in Dallas, Texas, will be showing Team America: World Police in place of The Interview on Dec. 27 at 7 p.m." http://www.hollywoodreporter.c... [hollywoodreporter.com]
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Which?
Cuba (Score:2)
Relatedly, I'm pleased that this mostly disappointing lame-duck President called the GOP on their kowtowing to the grandchildren of those that fled the collapse of the immorally corrupt Mafia / CIA backed Bautista regime that made their families filthy rich. To quote a former history teacher: "The most a woman could aspire to under Bautista w
Re: Pathetic... (Score:1)
this doesn't have anything to do with America. This is Sony by itself getting spanked - and they kinda earned this