YouTube Kids Launches On Android and iOS 81
An anonymous reader writes As expected, YouTube today launched YouTube Kids for Android and iOS, described as a "family-friendly destination" and "the first Google product built from the ground up with little ones in mind." You can download the new app for free, available only in the U.S., directly from Google Play and Apple's App Store. The app's main selling point is that it only has content deemed appropriate for kids. In other words, the pitch to parents is very simple: This app will ensure that your kids can watch videos posted online without stumbling on clips you wouldn't want them to see.
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This app will ensure that your kids can watch videos posted online without stumbling on clips you wouldn't want them to see.
Does this include ads?
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You do know that ads are targeted to the viewer right? If I binge watch a bunch of chemistry lectures I get ads for lab equipment.
Well how come I keep getting ads for butt plugs and cheerleader outifits then?
Oh...
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Kid-friendly ads (Score:5, Informative)
You are correct. The article in The Guardian [theguardian.com] states: "The app will be free and funded by advertising, although YouTube says it will be carefully screening ads to ensure they are appropriate for children." If there were no ads, then there would probably be no partner or claimed videos. This would have cut out a lot of YouTube.
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A lot of partners and claimants are unwilling to allow a video to be viewed at all unless an ad is presented first. So to limit ad impressions to fewer than what an adult would see, the app would have to limit the total number of video views fewer than what an adult would see. This would tie into the time limit feature.
Forced waiting (Score:2)
YouTube videos also tend to be a lot shorter than segments of children's broadcast television. Compare the 11-minute segments of an animated TV series for children with the 1- to 4-minute YouTube videos. This makes the requirements described in the "Commercial Time Limitations" section more practical to fulfill for broadcast television than for YouTube. For example, a 15-second commercial might be shown before a 45-second video, which would exceed the FCC's 1 to 4 ratio for weekdays, let alone the 1 to 4.7
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You assume it's necessary to show an ad before every video. If the video isn't long enough to insert an ad after, just don't show one until the next video has been viewed.
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You assume it's necessary to show an ad before every video.
If the partner uploader or the Content ID claimant has specified "Do not allow this video to be shown without an advertisement" on a particular video, then it is necessary.
If the video isn't long enough to insert an ad after, just don't show one until the next video has been viewed.
That would violate Google's contracts with YouTube partners and Content ID claimants.
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Of course not. TFS is inaccurate, the threshold is what you are willing to tolerate to distract the little buggers for five minutes so you can have some peace. Commercial children's TV channels suggest adults will tolerate advertising to their kids if it keeps them occupied.
My Little Pony (Score:2)
Hopefully better than SafeSearch... (Score:3)
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Would the child have understood "This word is for the potty"? When the child uses a bathroom word, try giving the child a time out in the bathroom.
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This, so much of this.
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Besides, when he was a little older and more aware of appropriateness, we had a better discussion about which words are appropriate to say in public. It was a much better way to handle it.
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And then he would have gone around telling us, his grandparents, and anyone else that he had to shit.
If that's the only time the child says "shit", not as an all-purpose swear word, I'd say mission accomplished. And if the child ends up learning "bullshit", you can take the child to a dairy farm.
How would you describe the words Fuck, or Bitch?
Be consistent in associating each taboo word with a place, and be honest and logical about this place. "Fuck" is for the bedroom, and "bitch" is for a place that you have associated with dogs. ("Blurred Lines" is about adopting a dog and discovering her arthritis [thoughtcatalog.com].) This teaches the child that there's a place for ev
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SHIT
[laugh tracks]
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Thomas the Train? wth? I thought it was Thomas the Tank Engine. *checks* Yeah, according to wikipedia, Thomas the Tank Engine is the name.
Is this another one of those Where's Wally vs Where's Waldo things? o_O
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Thomas the Train? wth? I thought it was Thomas the Tank Engine. *checks* Yeah, according to wikipedia, Thomas the Tank Engine is the name.
Is this another one of those Where's Wally vs Where's Waldo things? o_O
Thomas the Tank Engine is the illegitimate offspring of Ivor the Engine. [wikipedia.org]
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How about implementing parental controls on Androi (Score:2, Interesting)
How about implementing parental controls on Android instead? I can't give my kid an Android phone or tablet, because it's not possible to disable Youtube on it, and Youtube is full of garbage.
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There are many free apps that do that kind of thing.
Also if you have a non-nexus Samsung, or a non-nexus LG device, that are at least one year old, you have that functionality that is already baked into their customized ROM. The only thing is that LG doesn't call their functionality parental control, they call it 'Guest mode' instead which is actually really good because the way it's triggered, through a different unlock pattern or a different unlock pin, your guest has actually no idea he's using 'Guest m
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While I agree that native parental controls would be great, and as a parent I was also surprised they weren't there, there are apps that you can use to lock down devices quite easily to limit what your kids can access.
Kids Place is a good one:
https://play.google.com/store/... [google.com]
The bigger problem is no end of "free" games stuffed full of ads that kids accidentally click all the time. IMO Google needs a policy that says if you are marketing to kids under a certain age you may not have certain types of ads (or a
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Never mind parental controls, how about user controls over app permissions? (ie. putting the user and their privacy/security first.)
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That's been part of Android for years. Here is one article [ausdroid.net] describing what needs to be done.
Teaching them young (Score:2)
to grow up on media consumption devices in their hands. That's gonna be some socially inept generations coming up.
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Yeah but that's gonna be the norm at the time.
Think of it this way: when I grew up, everyone was playing ball and running around while I was reading serous books and tinkering with science. I was the weirdo. When my kid will grow up, everyone will live inside their mobile device or VR and my kid will want to play ball and run around. He's gonna be the weirdo.
Normal kids are not what we think normal is or should be.
With that being said, my kid thoroughly enjoys playing golf and memory match on his laptop as
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Not in this way with two huge corporations bescially in control of their lives.
Who decides what's appropriate? (Score:2)
As with so many "kid friendly" things, I have to wonder what the threshold is for varying types of content and who decides it's appropriate.
If it's like anything else, what they block and, more importantly, what they show is probably motivated more by religiousness and/or political correctness than by an honest assessment of what's appropriate for kids. I'm sure they'll block plenty of things that are just fine for kids while exposing them to all kinds of stuff they probably shouldn't be exposed to. But I
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Not only that but there are differing ages (and social/emotional ages) that will vary what is appropriate. If my 11 year old wants to view a video, it might be appropriate for him, but it might not be appropriate for my 7 year old. Furthermore, my 7 year old might be able to watch something that wouldn't be good for a 5 year old to view.
My ideal method of YouTube parental controls would be parentally set white lists. I would be to say that Channel X is allowed for this child, Channel Y is allowed for bot
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True. In my case, I want to introduce my kids to YouTube gradually. Start with a selection of video sources that I know are appropriate. Then, slowly expand the offerings while discussing how that video that seems to feature that cartoon character they love is probably not really appropriate since the title is "Bugs Bunny F****s Elmer Fudd" and thus should be avoided. However, my only options at this point are a) block all of YouTube (works in the short term but eventually they will have access away fro
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The app is clearly for little kids under 5-6. The "security" lock to keep kids out of the settings is a simple 4 digit pin that is shown on screen but only in words. It literally says "Enter three, five, eight, four". If your kids can read then this isn't the app for them.
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I'm sure they'll block plenty of things that are just fine for kids while exposing them to all kinds of stuff they probably shouldn't be exposed to. Care to expand on this? It sounds like complaining just for the virtue of hearing yourself talk.
I'm not sure if you're slow on the uptake or deliberately obtuse. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and amplify my point.
There is no shortage of people who want to manipulate what children are exposed to in order to indoctrinate them to a particular way of thinking. Pick any topic that even hints at controversial and you'll find people on both sides who desperately want to coerce young minds to their point of view. Churches would love to see kids raised to be unquestioning zombies showing up to dona
YouTube for Education (Score:2)
Is the plan to replace YouTube for Education with this? YTE never quite worked right, and the filtering YT offers itself blocks content randomly, almost laughable sometimes at what it deems objectionable.
I wonder if it'll filter... (Score:2)
Gosh darnit! (Score:3)
Won't somebody think of the chil... oh wait.
Slash-b (Score:2)
And so the countdown to a headline here that contains both the terms "YouTube Kids" and "4chan" begins.
It'll be a short one.
Very rudimentary (Score:3)
The parent can't even set their own PIN code. For security they pick four random numbers that change every time. Then they just ask you to punch in the numerals for something like "one eight seven four" and you put in "1874". Unless your kid is really young or really dumb, there's no point.
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5 and under (Score:3)
On iOS, this app is labeled for "kids 5 and under". ... so after 5 it's just rickrolling, goatse and downhill from there?
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That sounds like a fairly accurate description of modern life.
Here come the armchair parents (Score:1)
Let me grab some popcorn so I can watch all the people who don't have kids tell the rest of us parents how we should be doing it. Haha
Anyway, we don't have TV in our house so I let my kid watch a bit of Youtube now and then. She gets maybe two hours a week, maybe more. The frustrating thing has always been the "Youtube Wormhole" where any number of various suggested videos will pop up, and clicking through them can lead to you some odd places, as others have mentioned. It will be nice to know that there
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With reason, you're correct. I just remember posting something on here about how I was excited to take my daughter to see The Hobbit when it came out, and some guy basically accused me of being a bad parent for not reading the book with her instead. AFAICT it's usually the people who have no experience raising kids whatsoever who shout the loudest about how terrible a job other people are doing.
(Personal side-rant: raising kids (properly) is the hardest fucking job you will ever have, period. And that's
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Dont get me started on ads. I already pretty much filter them quite well with osx, and given current PHB and repressive changes in law that seriously affect my right to privacy. I might as well go full tor and try to get around ads at router/firewall level, including youtube. About the contents, I make an effort to turn it to more sane, but it is not easy.
If you really don't want to watch ads, try visiting non advertising funded sites. There's no moral or legal requirement to watch YouTube (or read slashdot).
Just a thought.
Does it solve my main problems? (Score:2)