HP's New Logo Is the Awesome One It Never Used (theverge.com) 154
An anonymous reader writes: Earlier today, HP announced the Spectre 13, the world's thinnest laptop. One of the subtle changes HP is making with its recent global brand offensive is to its logo. HP has decided to go with a minimalist design consisting of four slashes making up the "HP" brand name. Previously, "Hewlett-Packard" was written out in full on last year's Spectre x360. HP says it will be using the minimalist logo solely on its premium laptops. Even though the logo has received a makeover, it's not exactly new. This very same mark first surfaced online in a 2011 brand redesign study released by Moving Brands, who HP had hired to develop a new logo and brand identity.
Ew (Score:4, Insightful)
HP laptops? nasty
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lock down that wifi slot! can't have people installing any old compliant and functional pci-e card. gotta make them buy OURS. we'll whitelist only ours, bwahahaha!
evil fucking company. then again, anyone that large is also evil; comes with the territory, it seems ;(
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Compared to these laptops, mine isn't very thin and it doesn't really look all that fancy - which is a bonus. It's a bit heavy but lighter than it looks like - even with two drives in it. I'm pretty happy with it but it's a "mobile workstation" and not a "laptop." I bought the Titan X4K earlier this year and have been pretty happy with the product. I imagine it's more than what most folks want to pay (I decked it out, including the extras - sans OS, of course) but I think it's worth it.
I am not affiliated.
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I remember dealing with those issues. My HP laptop had a PITA broadcomm 802.11b wifi NIC which at the time needed ndiswrapper in Linux. I wanted to install either an Intel or a Atheros 802.11g NIC, but the damn laptop wouldn't take any non-HP cards.
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Had that happen once. I made do with a CardBus WiFi card until the native Broadcom driver (b43?) started to work. ndiswrapper never worked for me.
OTOH, another HP notebook (maybe a slightly older one) shipped with a wireless NIC with no WPA support...kinda use
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That is a minor consideration next to the fact that HP's build quality and specs are shit.
I think you misread the logo as "HP" - it's "liji". And I'm convinced soon, they will actually make it look like "shit". Honesty in marketing, great idea.
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It's not really a minor consideration. It's the fundamental way HP does business - everything from HP only memory to HP only boards to HP only drives.
Shit, shit and shit.
isn't this the way Apple is functioning?
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Well, that's just a supply issue - NVMe/PCIe SSDs aren't a terribly big part of the market right now either. I mean, you can buy a PCIe SSD for your PC and chances are it won't boot from it. So things are still in flux for NVMe/PCIe SSDs. Apple of course, controls the entire chain so they can make their OS boot from PCIe/NVMe easily enough, and the performance is easily triple that of SATA3 (1.5GB/sec vs SATA
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100% compatible with common standards
Not quite. OS X refuses to enable TRIM on a non-Apple SSD and you need 3rd-party software to make it work.
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It can be manually enabled in the newer versions. Which is not a sane default, especially when there is no easy way to notice.
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My experience with those Elitebooks is that they were garbage. The first problem is that they were total dogs performance wise. I'm not sure what the problem was exactly, but you'd get one totally specced out and the thing would just be slow and sluggish and feel like it was several years older than it really was. The second problem is that they just didn't hold up well either. Lots of failures and 3-4 years and they'd be dead. Usually just out of warranty and deemed not worth repairing. Granted, that
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Does anyone else think the logo looks showing the middle finger?
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I don't get it. Is this sponsored content?
Hate to say it but I think I agree with all the crazy anti-Windows people that pollute this site. No use getting an expensive windows computer that can't play games. Windows is only if you're making a game machine or want to buy one of the $200 laptops.
Turd, meet gold paint (Score:2)
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No, it's not sponsored content. Whipslash/Logan posted above your post but after you posted. I don't think they do a whole lot of sponsored content here. At least not that I've noticed - though I think Dice did some. I'm not sure why everyone seems to jump to that conclusion. So, if you don't mind entertaining me, why is it that you leaped to that conclusion? It's not like there's a recent history of sponsored content. The new overlords are pretty damned open and, seemingly, honest. You can just ask 'em if
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I'm not sure why everyone seems to jump to that conclusion.
Well, it seems like 'slashvertisement' is the automatic cry that people raise when a product or service that they don't personally like or use is mentioned in a post. And anyone who disagrees with that judgment is a 'paid shill.'
For what it's worth, I like the new logo. I don't think it's either particularly necessary or helpful, but I don't have any problem with it.
All together (and altogether) now... (Score:2)
Everybody sing along ... [youtube.com]
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If it was the case that for X bucks you can get a [non]-story posted, and if you were him, would you just come out and admit it?
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Windows is only if you're making a game machine or want to buy one of the $200 laptops.
Or want a computer that doesn't actively battle the user every step of the way to do basic tasks while at the same time not wanting a mac.
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No use getting an expensive windows computer that can't play games. Windows is only if you're making a game machine or want to buy one of the $200 laptops.
No, Windows is used to do real work, too. It's still the dominant CAD platform, for example. Basically all automotive software is for Windows, including tuning and programming. Seems to still be the dominant platform in GIS, in spite of most of those tools being available for Windows now, presumably we can chalk that up to inertia and legacy software. I'm sure there are numerous other industries where Windows is the de facto standard.
HP Logo Police chief must have retired. (Score:3, Interesting)
No! The logo police came down on it like a ton of bricks. The aspect ratio of the log does not match the company spec during the animation. They made us pull the release candidate and rebuild the whole software.
We had the last laugh though, we spun off the OEM software under our own brand, and HP competed with us, then spun off its software division as Agilent, and then we beat Agilent in that business. They eventually sold their customer base who used the competing version created by them to us and exited the business. Anyone who spent that much time enforcing logo display deserved to go out of business.
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Shit, I was an MVP award winner with Microsoft for about a half-dozen years. This was ages ago but they were VERY anal retentive about what logo could be used, where it was to be used, and how you used it and presented it - you signed both an agreement to do so (or you didn't get the award) and an NDA to not discuss the rules. I am, kind of obviously, no longer receiving that award every year. I haven't participated in the program since about 2006.
Ah well... They did give us an insanely awesome version of M
Re:HP Logo Police chief must have retired. (Score:4, Insightful)
Anyone who spent that much time enforcing logo display deserved to go out of business.
You have just described the entire fortune 500 portfolio. When companies get to the point where their logo is valuable or their products are worth forging there are good reasons to enforce incredibly strict logo rules. This can be to:
a) show consistency
b) drive a certain message (i.e. our branding standards include which colours can cover which part of a page and a based on psychological studies of how people react to colours).
c) ensure that the brand is advertised in a consistent way; which ties into:
d) fight forging, when you're always 100% sure of exactly how a product is supposed to look it makes it easier to spot the fakes, especially since the fakes often make minor modifications to the logo to avoid falling afoul of trademark laws which are about the only laws that apply properly in much of the world.
I once had to redesign a product because the printing proof showed a single colour of the logo slightly differently due to a supplier changing printers. And when I say slightly differently it was resolved by increasing the yellow colour by 2 values (out of 256). I couldn't tell the difference side by side between the printed copies but the brand team could.
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Logo and branding are VERY specific and related closer to trademark then to copyright. There are always forms and papers on how the logo should look, what colors must be used, what if it is in black and white and a lot of other things.
We have one of them that states very specifically in quite strong terms when the business name is written down each word MUST start with a capital letter.....the logo is all lowercase /facepalm
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Fails the "stuff that matters" test (Score:3, Insightful)
A logo change for a company nobody cares about anymore is like don't care squared.
I hope they paid well.
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It's too bad that HP kept the calculators division. Agilent/Keysight might have done something more interesting with them.
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I guess they already plan to Split The Atom Further. Keysight will be split into Peephull and Analitech, according to the latest rumors.
Anal iTech, is that apple's new thing? Sounds sexy
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That logo is awesomesauceballs. Minimalist as all hell, but recognizable like yo mommas back.
But it is as newsworthy as the ass I just dropped.
I liked the link to hpes logo, which is boring like picking your crack and not finding any Klingons. The (tit)tees are crammed together for the first time in history! Epicleventy!!!
Wait, CEOs spend time on this shit instead of making a business that doesn't nurse butt. There's your news, and stock tip.
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Stuff it!
The bird (Score:3)
If I look at it upside down it looks sort of like it is flipping me off...
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peter griffin, here we come!
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That's HP? Probably wouldn't have guessed (Score:4, Informative)
If I hadn't known, I'd probably still be wondering.
Epic fail IMO.
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So it suits the company perfectly then.
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I remember with the old logo sometimes seeing it upside down and wondering what a DY was. This one is still susceptible to that, in addition to looking like a fence, or the rain, or someone being beamed up to a space ship.
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The point of a logo is not to instantly recognise the company, it's to drive a brand. The recognition comes after circulation. Take a car logo for instance. Many people have no idea that the Toyota symbol actually spells the letters Toyota over each other, or that the Subaru logo is based on the constellation by the same name in Japanese based on the pleiades. In either case though after a brief period people recognise the logo and associate it with a company. Or what do a horse and a bull say about a car a
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Toyota symbol actually spells the letters Toyota over each other,
This is a new one on me. But I only recently learned of the arrow in the FedEx logo, even more recently the spoon. The Tostitos logo has two guys dipping chips in salsa within the 'tit' of the logo. And the new Baskin Robbins logo has the number 31 hidden in the BR.
These are all things I appreciate and enjoy.
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Lol you just blew my mind. How could I not have seen the 31!
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This minimalism thing is getting really out of hand.
Indeed. Reduce minimalism!
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This minimalism thing is getting really out of hand.
Indeed. Reduce minimalism!
But I thought less was more?
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https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media... [guim.co.uk]
I'll let you guess which is which.
Wolverine made the logo? (Score:1)
Looks like it...
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actually, they used a dot matrix printer - but it was so old, some of the pins were stuck.
"hey, look at this! maybe we can salvage this into our new logo!"
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Done on a laser, but their inks so expensive even they can't afford it.
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LIP? (Score:1)
The new logo is very nice, clean and minimalistic, but just look at the LIP watches logo from last century - somehow VERY similar.
Is it just me? (Score:1)
I wonder if they are trying to hide the fact that the owner use a HP brand laptop?
I am not trying to joke here as my older computer was Lenovo and current one is HP. Both chosen with the criteria of being Debian compatible (chips) and I will not be running Apple in Starbucks for example.
If they are ashamed of being themselves and try to hide it, they have a bigger problem.
Ugliest Logo I've ever seen. (Score:2)
Nobody will know what it is unless you tell them, and even then some people will not be able to see it. .. but maybe the laptop will be so dreadful nobody will ever NEED to see the logo.
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Indeed. It could be hp, lip, liyi, lgi, lizi, or upside-down, ily, ihz, ilg, dy, dz, ...
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https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lip
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Very informative, thanks.
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"liji"???
Yup. How awesome.
Not very original (Score:1)
That is not a very original logo. The MIT Press has one just like it (same "font") and they have had it for decades. See http://mitpress.mit.edu/ [mit.edu]
HP = crap. Avoid. (Score:2)
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What was wrong with the other one? (Score:3)
I'm no brand or design guru (like most people here on Slashdot) but I did rather like the other logo they had on the HP Spectre 13 [notebookcheck.net].
Wonder why they didn't go with that one?
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I think they want people to forget about their engineering and instrumentation origins.
I'm returning ... (Score:2)
Dymec is back? And they're making laptops??? (Score:2)
At one point, HP had a division called Dymec, which manufactured custom test gear, early digital data acquisition systems, and similar niche market stuff. Their logo was simply the HP logo of the day, turned upside down so it became "DY"...
http://hpmemoryproject.org/new... [hpmemoryproject.org]
http://www.hpmuseum.net/divisi... [hpmuseum.net]
https://www.hpplotter.co.uk/wo... [hpplotter.co.uk]
MIT Press logo (Score:1)
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Re:How much? (Score:5, Insightful)
It seems like HP got a new social media PR department to go with this new logo. I saw this story several times on Facebook, Engadget, and Reddit as well.
But, seriously, it's just a weird logo on a laptop that's too thin to be practical. Big deal. I don't want to carry around damn dongle to use an Ethernet or HDMI port!
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... But, seriously, it's just a weird logo ...
A logo should convey something about the company that promotes it. It should be an identifiable mark that clearly points you toward a specific company.
Some of them are historical, some are symbolic, some evoke emotion, some represent their product.
This one is remarkable in the sense that it does none of the things a logo does. It is similar to a HP logo for those who don't want to be identified as working on a HP product. Three carefully placed horizontal lines (perhaps not even fully connecting) would g
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cues, not queues.
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bored overpaid execs who just don't earn their keep anymore - THEY are the ones always who want to change a perfectly good company logo.
sgi had a great logo. the idiots changed it. hp had a very long-running and classic logo. they changed it several times.
I was at DEC and for some odd reason, they kept their nice, working logo for, well, the entire company history! apple has kept theirs mostly the same, too, over their history.
seems some companies hire marketing people who just don't offer anything of real value, they try to justify their jobs and do 'something' but usually they just create crap.
I understand that when a restaurant has a food poisoning and goes out of business (just a name change, really) to refresh itself, I get why that is done. but with hp? ok, the more I think about it, the more I guess I just answered my own question.
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Fun fact: if you rotate the traditional "HP" logo 180 degrees, it becomes "DY".
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... Three carefully placed horizontal lines (perhaps not even fully connecting) would go MILES in letting me know these are letters. ...
I rather like it (still not a fan of the current company, though). But, given their target audience, it might not be the best choice. I learned long ago that technical people are generally the wrong folks to expect to grok an abstract design.
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Title:
Advertising HP Businesses News Hardware Technology HP's New Logo Is the Awesome One It Never Used
So I went to Wikipedia...
Hewlett-Packard, Founded January 1, 1939; 77 years ago
I'm not going to start screaming "OOOOH SLASHVERTISEMENT" because the story really has made the rounds everywhere, it's just a little disingenuous to suggest that th
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It's not going to make me buy it but I don't hate it. I'm not normally a fan of the minimalist craze and I'm not a product/brand zealot so I don't really care what logo is on what, as long as it's not gaudy looking or chintzy looking. This isn't a bad logo or anything. I've seen much, much worse. It doesn't scream "copied from another company and a fad" to me. It's almost elegant, it reminds me a bit of ballerinas.
Yeah, that last joint was probably one too many. Still, it's not an abomination. I'm guessing
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But, seriously, it's just a weird logo on a laptop that's too thin to be practical. Big deal. I don't want to carry around damn dongle to use an Ethernet or HDMI port!
Well, it certainly is a good thing that you aren't the target demographic, huh?
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You're right. Computer users are no longer in that company's target demographic.
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Two observations. First, there were, literally, around a hundred posts that were obvious spam (i.e. not even pretending to be news). There needs to be some mechanism to kill it easily. Perhaps people who have mod points are allowed to kill one firehose article per day (or even have one pop up on the front page and be asked 'is this spam?' - not is this good or not, just should this be rejected).
Second, it's hard to find the firehose. The only link to it is in the bar at the top that contains stupid m
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Re:Give me a break (Score:5, Insightful)
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Yup. I really don't much care what the subject of the article is. It's not like we read it or were even really talking about it. There are threads and sub-threads and meta comments galore. I read Slashdot for the comments - which are generally pretty good. If anyone thinks that quality of comments has gone downhill, I suggest you take a little while to browse the archives. We were never "good." We've always just been pretty good.
A good example is to trace back VMWare (through the search) to the first articl
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Stylistically, it reminded me of the MIT alumni logo. I use that as my avatar sometimes. It's not that I'm overly proud to be alumni, it's that I'm not very creative.
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Are you high? The Rand 1972 IBM logo has 8 lines of resolution FOR EACH LETTER. You can clearly make the details out.
This stupid HP logo has TWO lines of resolution for each letter. That's no-longer distinctive, it's just overly clever bullshit that will piss-off your average idiot user.
Note that your average idiot user also includes every PHB who
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I have an HP laptop for work, and the easiest way to tell it's the right way around when I put it on the docking station is that it says "dy" in the middle instead of "hp".