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Unity 8 And Snaps Are Conquering The Ubuntu Desktop After Ubuntu 16.10 (softpedia.com) 78

prisoninmate writes: Today is the last day of the Ubuntu Online Summit 2016, and the Ubuntu developers discussed the future of the Ubuntu Desktop for Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) and beyond. It looks like Snaps (Snappy) and Unity 8 with Mir are slowly conquering the Ubuntu Desktop, at least according to Canonical's Will Cooke, Ubuntu Desktop Manager. Work has already begun on pushing these new and modern technologies to the Ubuntu Desktop, as Ubuntu 16.04 LTS has just received support for installing Snaps from the Ubuntu Snappy Store. Canonical's Will Cooke has mentioned the fact that the Unity 7 desktop enters its twilight years, which means that it gets fewer features and it's being reduced to only critical and OEM work. This is because Unity 8 desktop is getting all the attention now, and it will become the default desktop session somewhere after Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak).
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Unity 8 And Snaps Are Conquering The Ubuntu Desktop After Ubuntu 16.10

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    why did this rush this LTS release? What a mess.

    • If Unity 8 is the future... why did this rush this LTS release? What a mess.

      If it's the future (it might not be) what's best? Rushing into an LTS or testing for two years then putting it in an LTS?

  • So by "conquering" (Score:3, Insightful)

    by jofas ( 1081977 ) on Thursday May 05, 2016 @06:06PM (#52056693)
    ... They mean " being forced on users. Classic canonical.
    • You don't have to use it but if you do you have to respect their decisions. You can allways fork it and fix it yourself if you could actually be bothered. I've used Ubuntu for years and it just works for me.

      • by jofas ( 1081977 )
        Oh, here we go. "Fork it yourself!" Is that the answer for everything now? Canonical isn't just astronaut money, you know. Users put Ubuntu on the map and as such should be treated as stakeholders.
        Your comment "I've been using Ubuntu for years and it works for me." speaks volumes. How have you dealt with Gnome 3? Unity? Ever had non-PAE support yanked out from under you? How did you like when Canonical blindly followed Debian and ripped out ffmpeg?
        You may enjoy telling others to go build their own car when
  • A proud user... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ADRA ( 37398 ) on Thursday May 05, 2016 @06:16PM (#52056757)

    of Xubuntu. Centos with XFCE is ok too. Really, the only thing that XFCE is missing for me (and probably others) is a set of pre-canned layouts to select from in order to prevent more of the esoteric configuration.

    I'm all for adding new types of applications in new and novel ways until the cows come home, but the way I launch applications hasn't changed since '95. Call me old fashioned, but it fcking works and I love it.

    • Tell me about it... I've been using KDE on and off, the 4.x series had almost become as usable as 3.5 was, then my distro of choice (openSUSE) went to 5.x (if you can call it that, something about plasma seems to be involved?) - pile of buggy slow steaming dung trying to pretend my monitor is a mobile phone. Been back on XFCE for a week, some rough edges (getting session switching working took a bit of research) but so far it Just Works.

    • pretty much the same here. fvwm 1.4 (iirc) user since I 'upgraded' from twm.

      that's not a desktop; it just lets me bring up a menu (that goes away after I unclick) and run an xterm or whatever. usually I will run a term and then use that to do things, including running gui apps. stdout is often useful! why hide it?

      do a 'ps aux' and you see very little cruft on my installs. do that ps on an ubuntu 'desktop' and there's 10x as many procs running. no one needs that kind of waste, I don't care if you are o

    • With xfce, for common apps, the procedure:
      1. Think of what key combination is most obvious
      2. If it is not used, bind the app to that key combo
      3. If it is used, add a modifier key, else choose next most obvious
      Super-T for terminal, Super-B for browser, Super-E for file manager (inherited from Win95), Super-hash for virt-manager or x2goclient, and so on.

    • "A set of pre-canned layouts to select from".

      Xubuntu 16.04 now have this option. Its called Xfce Panel Switch.

      • by ADRA ( 37398 )

        God, this is literally be best thing I've heard on Slashdot in a long time, Kudos!

    • by KGIII ( 973947 )

      XFCE also has the best GUI task manager out there. At least it's the best one out of the ones that I've found.

      sudo apt-get install xfce4-taskmanager

      Then just set it as the default and whatnot (if you like it) and it is good to go. I'm going to be working on a way to set a switch so that you can automatically installed it and swap it out for the LXtask for the on-click function for LXpanel.

      I used LXpanel to build myself a nifty little dock that only appears when I mouse over the top of the screen (it disappe

  • by Anonymous Coward

    In response to anyone who questions whether Linux is a viable desktop, I have this to say:
    My father's first and only computer, at the age of 86, was Linux Ubuntu. He did just fine with it for 4 years.
    Windows was not even a consideration for my efforts to bring computers to him. Ubuntu simply worked for him with minimal support from me. If you prefer Windows or Mac that is fine. Just skip criticizing Linux for what it is.

  • by Gravis Zero ( 934156 ) on Thursday May 05, 2016 @09:02PM (#52057781)

    the Unity desktop is so terrible they should just call it Overunity because that's a name that matches the level of ridicule it deserves.

    • I've just replaced LMDE and XFCE with Ubuntu and Unity on my main desktop. (I thought it time to judge it for myself, and my Mint install was getting stale).

      And it seems fine. OK, there are some things that need getting used to, but on the whole I find it usable.
    • Your opinion on desktop interfaces is not universal. I would not say I HATE simple desktops like Mate or XFCE or LXDE, but the straightforwardness of Unity and the fact that it's mostly set up in a pleasant way out of the box make it more ideal for me. The trade-off is they seem to have a fear of supporting large amounts of interface tweaking, but every desktop has strengths and weaknesses.

    • by tepples ( 727027 )

      I prefer "Un(usabil)ity".

  • by fahrbot-bot ( 874524 ) on Friday May 06, 2016 @01:56AM (#52058781)

    ... according to Canonical's Will Cooke, Ubuntu Desktop Manager.

    apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop-manager

  • by Qbertino ( 265505 ) <moiraNO@SPAMmodparlor.com> on Friday May 06, 2016 @07:36AM (#52059513)

    I don't know anyone who's used Unity longer than I have and I've just switched to Xubuntu/XFCE and Lubuntu/LXDE because I couldn't bear compiz slowing my system Quad-Core 2,5 Ghz + 18GB RAM + 256GB SSD System + NVidia Quadro GFX to a grinding halt.

    Fix compiz and Unity rendering and all will be fine.
    Until then, my patience with default Ubuntu Desktop finally is up.

    Clean design, bold new concept, convergence planed in - all fine and dandy - but Unity is broken and simply still not ready for primetime / real-world everyday usage. That's a simple fact. (I've been using Ubuntu since v.9 btw.)

    • Sounds like an nvidia problem? (check the drivers?)

      • "Sounds like an nvidia problem? (check the drivers?)" ...and there you have in one comment the reason why Linux on the desktop is a fail, for ordinary non-techical computer users.

        Q: My computer is hosed. It keeps slowing to a crawl. What can I do?

        A: Just recompile the kernel with the whatchamacallit option disabled, after upgrading your gcc compiler and setting the flags just so, then try to find the exact right video driver on an obscure backwater page of some tech support website, upgrade your OS packages

    • I think Gnome 3, Unity and so on are meant to work on Intel graphics, such as on many laptops. Have anything else? Feel lucky if that works, or get lost if you don't have the "right" kind of hardware.

  • by BrendaEM ( 871664 ) on Friday May 06, 2016 @11:12AM (#52060679) Homepage

    Cinnamon and Mint are the future of the Linux Desktop.

"The Avis WIZARD decides if you get to drive a car. Your head won't touch the pillow of a Sheraton unless their computer says it's okay." -- Arthur Miller