Amazon Goes After YouTube With New Online Video Posting Service (bloomberg.com) 61
Spencer Soper, writing for Bloomberg (edited and condensed): Amazon will let people post videos to its website and earn money from advertising, royalties and other sources, putting the company in more-direct competition with Google's YouTube. Amazon already offers movies and television programs over the Internet -- including its own original productions -- to compete with Netflix. The new product dubbed Video Direct will let Amazon give consumers more options about what to watch without an upfront fee because many of those posting videos will be paid based on how their content performs. Competing streaming services have been driving up the cost of this material. Amazon used a similar strategy to boost its inventory of electronic books through Kindle Direct Publishing, which lets authors bypass traditional publishers and reach readers directly by posting and selling their own e-books online. The Seattle-based e-commerce giant said the service is designed for "professional video producers," but its only requirements are that the videos be high definition and have closed-captioning for the hearing impaired.The company is offering 15 cents for every hour of viewing a video creator's content via Prime Video in the U.S, and six cents an hour for views outside of the U.S. Content creators can also allow Amazon to show their videos to any visitor for free. In such case, Amazon says it is offering 55 percent of all ad revenue their clips generate. Content creators can also sell their videos via its subscription service, or its rental its store -- in which case, Amazon will offer 50 percent of the revenue. YouTube has been long criticized for paying less to YouTube creators, forcing many to leave the platform, or look for alternate revenue channels.
What about Vimeo? (Score:4, Insightful)
There's more options out there than "YouTube or nothing".
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Vimeo Guidelines rule out several uses (Score:4)
Vimeo's guidelines [vimeo.com] reject certain categories of video entirely.
But some older restrictions appear to been loosened:
You mentioned plural "more options out there". Which of said "more options" fills these gaps in what Vimeo allows users to post?
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I'm not into posting videos on the Web, so while I'm pretty sure there's more out there than YouTube, Vimeo and Vine, I can't really name any without searching.
Re:Vimeo Guidelines rule out several uses (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm not into posting videos on the Web, so while I'm pretty sure there's more out there than YouTube, Vimeo and Vine, I can't really name any without searching.
Fascinating addition to the thread. Keep up the good work.
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There's also DailyMotion.
Never heard of it? Exactly.
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Re:What's a Servicex? (Score:5, Funny)
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Just curious. I've never seen that term before.
It's how you get Amazon's new Video Direct.
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Amazon Prime requirement. (Score:4, Funny)
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The selection INSIDE the US sucks pretty badly too.
I find that Prime Video, has much less than Netflix, and any newer or popular movies, the few that are on Prime, are also on Netflix.
I have Prime due to the shipping benefits and the occasional free ebook rental....and I have Prime all my viewing computers, tablets, phones and TVs....but I rarely watch the Prime option.
That being said, Prime IS one of the pieces I'm looking
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If the only requirements are HD and closed captioning then it shouldn't take long to knock up an hour's worth of HD black screen, with some captioned drivel, that can be endlessly "viewed" by bots.
Re:I wonder if it'll be abused like Kindle Direct (Score:5, Funny)
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So it is a competitor to CNN and Fox News?
Oh, for some mod points....
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Oh, for some mod points....
Oh my lord... quoted for so much truths! :)
Re: I wonder if it'll be abused like Kindle Direct (Score:1)
Oh.
My.
God.
Shut Slashdot down, people... We have a winner.
What next? (Score:4, Funny)
Is Amazon going to form its own "Social Networking" too?
Is Amazon going to form its own Search Engine?
Is Amazon going to form its own Email services?
Doing the "Me Too" thing now, is like closing the barn doors long after the horses have left.
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They're going to start selling things over the Internet because they heard about another company that already does this, called "Amazon" or something.
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With Yahoo! looking for a buyer, someone has to pick up the slack.
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However, their service interface is really geared for enterprises which can devote a team of IT professionals to managing it. That's why companies like Dropbox were able to successfully re-sell Amazon's cloud storage to the home and SMB user with a shiny user-friendly interface on top. A lot of us have b
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>>Is Amazon going to form its own "Social Networking" too?
Internet Movie Database!
>>Is Amazon going to form its own Search Engine?
Alexa!
>>Is Amazon going to form its own Email services?
https://news.slashdot.org/comm... [slashdot.org] answered this one...
That price point is small for professionals (Score:1)
but pretty decent for homemade videos for fun.
If a 3 minute video gets 3 million views the video creator would get $22,500 USD. Assuming it takes two people who make videos for a living 2 weeks to make and edit a video, and that they are the only two people in the video, that works out to $35 an hour per person($22,500 / 640 hours).
Too late (Score:4, Insightful)
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Everybody's already uploaded everything to YouTube, and the service is really good--all you need is an adblocker and it's just about perfect. Why would anybody switch to Amazon?
Because your MySpace friends told you that's where all the cool AOL people hang out?
Blame the right one: RIAA labels and MPAA studios (Score:2)
What makes you think the established record labels and movie studios won't patrol Amazon's service at least as harshly as they patrol YouTube?
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there certainly is no need for proactive server-side scanning
As I read 17 USC 512(i)(1)(B) [copyright.gov], it requires providers taking advantage of the DMCA's safe harbor to "accommodate[...] standard technical measures", such as automatic identification of works whose copyright is often infringed, so long as said measures do "not impose substantial costs". What did I miss?
and automated take-downs.
Automated notices of claimed infringement wouldn't be quite as necessary if service providers blocked reuploads of the same work after having received "actual knowledge that the material or an activity using the
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Certain types of video simply require 20-30Mbps bitrate.
Yet DVD is limited to 9 Mbps including audio, and that's using a video codec two generations older than what is commonly used for Internet streaming video. DVD uses MPEG-2, when H.263-class codecs (Sorenson Spark, DivX, Xvid, Theora) and H.264-class codecs (incl. VP8) have followed it. Does a POV video "require 20-30Mbps bitrate" even in standard definition?
Marketing (Score:2, Funny)
Oh boy, a service with a 5 syllable name that shortens to "VD". That should help with consumer uptake. "I got VD and I want to share it with all my friends!"
Per minute of viewing? (Score:2)
Ugh, I really don't need longer videos. It's a shame intros and filler are being incentivized.
Seems like it would not work (Score:3)
When I think of Amazon, I think of buying stuff online. Perhaps even the upcoming new Top gear.
I cannot imagine thinking...hey.. I'll go to amazon a look at lol catz.
There is no way they can compete with youtube. Just like there was never any chance that google+ was going to take off. People think of Google as the place to go to search for what you want or to get your email, but not to post social media.
Same is true for Amazon and personal content.
Hell, I am even a Prime member and have not watched a single show their site. Why? Because while they have loads of shows, nearly everything I want to see is "extra" and I will never pay 3 dollars to watch a single episode of a TV show. Ever.
Maybe if it was like 10 cents, but 3 bucks? Nope.
And most folks I know think the same.
Youtube for random videos and Netflix or Hulu for streaming.
Though... I would use amazon to buy the router I would use to connect to those other services.
Amazon Video Direct service Url (Score:2)
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Thank you! Mod Up. (Score:2)
Not only was there no link to the service in the summary, there was not a single link in the article that was linked to!
How can we even have a discussion without knowing the details of the service.
Like for instance the unmentioned million dollar bonus for the top 100 videos in addition to the stated streaming payments...
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Like for instance the unmentioned million dollar bonus for the top 100 videos in addition to the stated streaming payments...
Man, I didn't even see that! Thanks
Do I like Amazon? (Score:2)
NO
Android (Score:2)
Can I watch Prime Video on my Android device yet? Oh ...
Google pooping too much in their own nest (Score:2)
Youtube ads went beyond annoying long ago. They should have known this would be inevitable, after all they are smart people according to them. Nice to see Amazon sticking it in where it hurts.
If they can match YouTube's volume, this is huge (Score:2)
My son and I make YouTube videos as a hobby, and in an average month we'll get around 15,000 hours per month of views. $0.15 per hour would be about 10x what YouTube's AdSense currently pays for those views.
If they can match YouTube's sheer volume, or even within an order of magnitude, this is a no-brainer for hobbiest content producers. I like YouTube overall, so if the only effect is that it raises AdSense's payout to compete, then it's a win-win.