Samsung Unveils 256GB MicroSD Card, Highest Capacity In Its Class (thenextweb.com) 117
Samsung recently unveiled its EVO Plus 256GB microSD card, capable of storing more than 12 hours of 4K video footage, 33 hours of full HD recording, 55,200 photos or 23,500 MP3s. While you most likely do not need such a large microSD card in your life, you'll probably want one. The card features Samsung's newest V-NAND technology, with read/write speeds of 95MB/s and 90MB/s, respectively. It will be available in June to over 50 countries at a price of $250, which includes a 10 year warranty. Personally, I have no need for such a high-capacity card at this time, but I marvel how far technology has progressed in the last few years, let alone months. SanDisk, for example, revealed a 200GB microSD card back in March, 2015, which was the highest capacity microSD card up until now.
Can i... (Score:1)
Get 1000 of them in an iSCSI setup?
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Imagine... a Beowulf cluster of these!
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'Ere [amazon.com] you go.
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No, and no (Score:3, Funny)
While you most likely do not need such a large microSD card in your life
Correct
you'll probably want one.
Incorrect.
I'm not quite the gibbering moron you seem to imagine me to be...
Re: No, and no (Score:1)
Well I am. Gibber gibber!
But seriously.... Nobody knows when they're going to need a couple hours of video recording capacity.
Those circumstances can't be predicted... But they do happen. Alien visitations, cops torturing someone, once in a millennia volcanic eruptions, you actually get laid, etc.
Having excess video capacity is never a bad thing.
Re: No, and no (Score:4, Funny)
We all know that three of these events are likely to occur in our lifetime.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have porn video files to classify.
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once in a millennia volcanic eruptions
We all know that three of these events are likely to occur in our lifetime.
Well I guess this is the unlikely one then, works for me. Unless those bastards discover immortality.
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Just that it seems pretty expensive. If you need it you need it, but I'll stick with $10 cards for now.
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you actually get laid
But why would you need multi-hour capacity for a 15 seconds event?
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While you most likely do not need such a large microSD card in your life
This is correct in that no, I do not need such a large microSD card.
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I'm not quite the gibbering moron you seem to imagine me to be...
Not a gibbering moron, but I do imagine you're somewhat of a wonkey monkey.
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Note, those ultra cheap off-brand (or even sometimes good counterfeit brand name) ones are always fakes. They edit the thing so that it reports that it is the size they claim, but the moment your write more than the actual size (normally like 2-8GB), you get an error and it all goes to shite.
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At least they can't fit freakin' steel nuts [gizchina.com] into a microSD card.
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No it isn't. Not at all. The latest gen phones not supporting an SD card is a stupid marketing trick to get you to purchase a phone with larger internal capacity. This says absolutely nothing about anything else. Sane portable devices will still use an expandable memory slot for a long long time to come.
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We are supposed to keep all our content on 'the cloud.'
Me, I like having hundreds of television programs on my Galaxy Tab so I can watch one if I like at lunch break.
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We are supposed to keep all our content on 'the cloud.'
...and pay for a higher tier plan with more GB/month. I guess they're going to get you one way or the other.
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Only the S6 omits it (it's back on the S7).
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Just to clarify - I was referring to Samsung phones only. Apple seems to have abandoned the expandable storage idea.
Re:is SD fading away though? (Score:4, Informative)
Apple has never offered an idevice with removable storage. It didn't abandon the concept. It has actively refused to participate in the first place.
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+5 informative
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http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/lg-g5.html/ [t-mobile.com]
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The new LG G5 has replaceable battery and an SD card slot spec at 2 TERABYTE! I don't know HOW they know it will handle that much memory.
They know because that is what the SDXC standard supports. I find it incredibly frustrating when manufacturers limit their specifications of the maximum memory card size as the largest card available at the time of release of a product. Then in a few years time, when larger cards become available, you can't be sure if they are supported or not. You just have to try it and see. It gets worse then they just say "SD slot" without specifying which SD standard it really is.
The LG G5 explicitly says microSDXC, so
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You can store user info on a SIM card. Not much, but you can.
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An old school monochrome LCD pocket computer thing with storage on old SIM cards would be fun. Or it could be a nice silly place to store encryption, ssh keys.
I wonder if there's NOR flash in there?
Also, as a kid we found a really old phone as far as GSM goes. The SIM card was smartcard/debit card sized originally.
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Do you not own a camera? You know, something from Pentax/Olympus/Sony/Nikon/Kodak/Canon or some such? While a few models use CompactFlash cards, SD cards are pretty much the only game in town.
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My Raspberry Pi 3 uses a MicroSD card for it's main mass storage. All the Raspberry Pi's do that. It's really convenient in a classroom, because if a kid corrupts his filesystem, you pop out the SD and reimage it.
Re: is SD fading away though? (Score:1)
Crash Kit (Score:5, Interesting)
The reason I love having extremely large MicroSD cards is because my cell phone is essentially a mobile crash kit. I keep things like OS ISOs, drivers, and repair utilities on my phone, in case I ever walk into a place and need to repair a computer system or server. There is also a samba server on my phone in case I need to quickly distribute files to multiple machines at once over a network, instead of a single machine over USB.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
He didn't retire. He didn't die. He bought a smartphone and became a new kind of superhero.
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I tried that sort of with a dumbphone. 2GB SD card with bootable linux mint iso, micro-USB cable. It boots! Sadly the phone only has USB 1.1 making the linux live USB totally unworkable. I might as well put MS-DOS in there.
Can they please make a bigger one? (Score:2)
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Most cameras take full-size SD cards, which are available in 512GB now.
I guess you're using Gopros or similar "action cameras", though? Do they even support microSD cards with this much capacity?
200 GB in March.... 2015 (Score:4, Informative)
SanDisk, for example, revealed a 200GB microSD card back in March,
which implies this year, except it was 2015
https://www.sandisk.com/about/... [sandisk.com]
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Where you see a market for people wanting/needing uncompressed 4k video on a microsd card?
There are far better options for them.
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256 GB divided by 12 hours would correspond to a bandwidth of about 48.5 Mb/s. That's more than enough to support compressed 4K video.
Consider that UMAX in Korea supports streaming of compressed 4K video at 60 fps progressive, using 32 Mb/s of bandwidth. [streamingmedia.com]
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Assuming 3840*2160 pixels for "4K", 24 bits per pixel, and 30 frames per second: 711.9140625 MBps
Even at NTSC Film rates (24000/1001 fps) we're at 568.96228771228771... MBps.
You'd have to go to a cropped ultrawide movie theater resolution of "4K" such as 4096*1716 to get under 500 MBps uncompressed.
And likely not vaporware this time (Score:2)
These asshats http://www.androidcentral.com/... [androidcentral.com] were going to do 512GB - and as late as January of this year were saying the just hadn't released them because they hadn't sold their stocked supplies of smaller cards.
At least Samsung will probably deliver. And just in time for me not to need it as Dropbox introduces Infinity.
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I expect that they were lying. Sandisk and Samsung pour millions into these projects.
Isn't 640k enough for anybody? (Score:4, Interesting)
While you most likely do not need such a large microSD card in your life...
At one time I bought an iPad with 16 GB of storage, since the storage was infinite compared with my ability to come up with material to store on it. Then I discovered new applications like ForeFlight for flight planning. I now use a 128 GB iPad mini in the cockpit.
When I bought my current Mac (admittedly, a few years ago) I figured that 4 GB of RAM and 250 GB of disc space was ample. I bought a GoPro camera earlier this year. Two hundred fifty gigs is now nothing.
...laura
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Heh, yeah, it's always fun to see some of the morons who claim that nobody needs cards like these, just because all they do is tool around with email etc.
I spent the weekend at the WEC 6 Hours of Spa. I filled 4 128GiB cards with photos and videos, and was also well into the 5th card.
Pocket NAS (Score:1)
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Better yet, use full SD cards which aren't much bigger and have a longer life of uses.
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You mean like a ZSUN?
Conveniently has an (unconnected) wired ethernet header, dual 802.4G radios, is cheap, and can run OpenWRT?
$1/GB (Score:3)
And yet another top of the line card comes out at $1/GB more or less. With even the smallest cards going for $10 a Best Buy due to shipping and storage prices... can we find some better way of doing this? How about a box of 10 SD cards like floppies at the signoff price for floppies at $10/box?
Re:$1/GB (Score:4, Informative)
And yet another top of the line card comes out at $1/GB more or less. With even the smallest cards going for $10 a Best Buy due to shipping and storage prices... can we find some better way of doing this? How about a box of 10 SD cards like floppies at the signoff price for floppies at $10/box?
Best Buy? LOL. Ever hear of eBay, grandpa? Here's 10 32GB microSD cards [ebay.com] for $29.99 with free shipping, that works out to $3/card and less than $0.1/GB.
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Here's 10 32GB microSD cards for $29.99 with free shipping, that works out to $3/card and less than $0.1/GB.
You're assuming an awful lot there. That they will arrive at all, that they will provide the stated capacity, that they will work at all, that they will work longer than a couple of weeks... if it's not from a name brand with a decent warranty procedure and with at least a five year warranty, it's garbage not fit for ass-wiping (it's not soft and fluffy.)
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So we've gone from 10 32GB uSD cards to 5 8GB SD cards... that seems a bit of a fail
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Holy affiliate link, Batman!
(That's a flag to remind the Slashdot admins to make a few bucks for Slashdot!)
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* By abused I don't mean regula
Oh sure, I want one (Score:4, Interesting)
I'd like to have one in an abstract kind of way, but not enough to plunk down even near to that kind of money.
I actually bought an Evo+ because benchmarks revealed that the Evo and Evo+ are some of the best cards at random I/O, and thus better for running your operating system from than for example a Sandisk Ultra. I bought a 32GB when I could have probably done fine with a 8GB, let alone a 16GB, because apparently the 32GB and larger cards have even better random-access performance. It's annoying that some SD cards should suffer extremely poor performance on random writes, but sure enough, switching out my Sandisk Ultra 32GB for the Evo+ 32GB significantly improved Android performance on my Pine A64+ 2GB.
Sorry that reads like a fat block of ad copy, as if any advertisers were ever concerned with such trivial matters as random write performance; in fact, no SD card manufacturer of which I'm aware advertises any specs like that whatsoever. It's all just classes, and those only refer to sustained writes.
So far I am getting nowhere near using up my 32GB card, and don't expect to be in any danger of doing so any time soon. I have a 32GB Sandisk Ultra in my phone just for data, and it's doing that job just fine too — and I've lots of free space.
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You can buy the 200GB SanDisk for about USD$80 on Amazon.
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You can buy generic trash labeled as 512 GB, sure. You won't find any that actually hold 512 GB worth of data.
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You can buy the 200GB SanDisk for about USD$80 on Amazon.
OK, but I got my 32GB for $15 on Amazon, with Prime delivery. That works out to a tolerable price per GB, and provides more space than I actually need. I'm not parking anything on slow flash storage unless it has to be there. My data is mostly still on spinning rust (but high-capacity, relatively) and also on GigE. That way it can live in the closet and not spin on my desk.
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I have a 32GB Sandisk Ultra in my phone just for data, and it's doing that job just fine too — and I've lots of free space.
I have a 128GB EVO in my tablet and it's full.
As with all things storage there will people people who aren't interested because they will never use it, and people who aren't interested because it's still not big enough.
For a DSLR recording video is limited by memory card not by battery capacity. Recording photos at this point is limited by battery capacity where a typical 64GB card can hold over 1000 RAW files at which point the battery will already have given up unless you go crazy with power saving.
Useful for ultracheap win8 tablets (Score:5, Interesting)
These would be useful on ultra-cheap win8 tablets, like those Nextbook things at walmart.
They come from the factory neutered with a tiny internal flash storage, typically under 20gb of useful capacity, but feature a microSD slot.
What you do is format the card as NTFS, but dont provide a drive letter. Instead, you mount it as an NTFS junction at say C:\SDCard, then you create softlinks under there to individual folders in Program Files, and other important places.
That way C:\Program files remains traversable by the windows update process (and wont break spectacularly) because it is still native to the system volume, but the installed program directories underneath are redirected elsewhere on a per-program basis. (So, eg, the internet explorer subfolder remains native, but the Office 2007 subfolder is a symlink to the sdcard volume, etc.)
This is pretty easy to do with some freeware like symmover.
Big honking storage would turn the cheap walmart toy into a somewhat useable low-power tablet.
The storage would be even friendlier to use on a linux friendly tablet PC, as it could be mounted as /home.
For people with Linux Deploy set up on their phones, Big honking SDcard storage would let them set up a much more useful linux chroot with much more installed in it.
Big honking storage like this is really aimed at power users like that.
The prior suggestion I saw of setting these up in a raid array isnt so hot though. While individually these cards boast an interesting read/write access time, the limiting factor for raid will be bus saturation. Typically, the bus that lots of these would be put on is USB. USB has a limited total bus bandwidth, which IIRC, is 12mbit for 1.1, 400mbit for 2.0, and USB 3.0 is 5gbit. Once you saturate the bus, additional devices in the stripe only add complexity without benefit. For USB 3.0, that works out to about 7 of these cards (assuming the 96MB/sec figure holds, which it probably doesnt.). After that, the USB bus itself is the bottleneck. More cards wont make it go any faster, and the cost would be prohibitive. About the only neat thing about such an array would be the very low power requirements.
These cards are really best used in devices that SHOULD have had beefy internal storage, but dont, because of cheapness on the OEM's part.
Things like the afore mentioned tablet PCs.
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A microSD card weighs less than 1 gram, and requires very little power to run. It has faster access time than those DVDs as well, being solid state.
Good use cases include:
Teeny tiny drones, with large integrated map sets and aggressive flight telemetry logging
Large data store on tiny pocket NAS (like a ZSUN running openwrt). (Aside from corporate espionage, There are some useful situations where a sizeable local file store without a big honking server would be beneficial. Say, hosting the client images for
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Lifetime need? (Score:2)
Even a small OS like linux is a 180 MB download, and the USB sticks we use like we used to use floppies are now measured in
Ad signature (Score:4, Interesting)
256GB ... capable of storing more than 12 hours of 4K video footage, 33 hours of full HD recording, 55,200 photos or 23,500 MP3s
This is where you see it's an ad and not a regular story ; who on slashdot needs to be explained what is 256GB?
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Re:But does it work? (Score:4, Informative)
MicroSD is flash memory.
Flash memory has a write life limit, because of how it physically operates. (The gates that store the information degrade from having their states changed. Eventually, they degrade to the point where they are unreliable.)
Due to architectural restraints, flash memory is changed in 64kbyte blocks, on average. Most filesystems still believe the smallest writable unit is 512 bytes. This means that when you write lots of little files, and the card tries to be space efficient, the same block can be read-erase-written dozens of times on just a few filesystem writes. The choice of file system is very important here. This is one of the reasons why FAT performs so well on flash disks-- FAT has a very large cluster size (when used on "large" disks. ahem.), and can align natively with this block size in many cases. NTFS does not have a good block alignment with most flash systems, because the allocation unit sizes are not nice even multiples of the block size.
EXT CAN have the block size specified at file system creation time, but special care needs to be taken to assure inode size corresponds to the physical flash block size, which most people dont do when they reformat the media.
Poor alignment makes the device degrade much faster than it really should under ideal conditions, and drastically shortens device lifespan, even with advanced internal wear leveling. This is especially true if the system using the device as storage is treating it like a spinning disk, and not trimming writes and coordinating cache flushes with flash in mind.
Most likely, you have been destroying your media through improper data alignment in this fashion, and when it cant handle any more writes, it tells you so.
UHS 1 or UHS 2? (Score:2)
There's finally been some innovation in the SD / MicroSD arena - with a new standard for cards, they now have backwards compatible, much faster ones, with extra pins.
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=uhs+2+u3&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwit5b2PrdPMAhXDnaYKHQtUD30Q_AUICCgC&biw=1707&bih=929 [google.com.au]
I don't believe this one uses the new standard. If you're just using it to play music or videos, it's fine but (IIRC) a high end gopro would like a faster card when recording 4k 60fps for e
Hooray! (Score:1)
I just today received a 200 GB card which has dropped sharply in price over the past month. I had wondered why, and now it seems clear.
Since the death of HDD music devices the capacity of MicroSD has determined their capacity. As somebody who stores their music in FLAC I have had to move music out of my library to fit. The 200 will do for now, but I'm glad to see that there will be an option when I need to upgrade again.
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Yeah I never understood that. They almost all have the physical space to accommodate a full sized SD card and 512GB versions of these have been available for quite sometime and at better GB/$ than microSD too.
That said 256GB of FLAC is a *LOT* of music, we are talking well in excess of 600 albums. I have 282 in just over 100GB and that includes a whole bunch of multi CD compilation albums.
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I felt the same way. I have an SD -> MicroSD adapter but that isn't great for something that you carry around. For the last few years the best option I have seen for large capacity players had two MicroSD slots and even that wouldn't build playlists across both of them (it also isn't great for syncing).
But uh...I was already over-capacity on that 128, so I don't know how long it will be until I need a 256. If you consider that My parent's started collecting CDs in the mid-90s, this is essentially a 20 ye
One word: Porn (Score:1)
While you most likely do not need such a large microSD card in your life
In fact, yes, one would be rather convenient. But then I have no life.
(I have filled four 1TB hard drives with downloaded 720 and 1080p porn, and am starting on a 2TB. It would be nice to bring as much of that with me as possible when traveling.)
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A 512 is needed, please. (Score:1)
How else can I put ROMs of every single Nintendo DS game into a R4 card?
512G would be enough, btw.
Wrong unit (Score:1)
Are you kidding? It's my card and I want it now! (Score:2)
512 GB for $6.68 (Score:1)
Seems legit!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/512GB-... [ebay.com]
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24 bit is used at the recording, editing, mastering stages because you can "waste" many bits due to digital volumes/levels not tightly adjusted, and not lose anything. Then as far ad human hearing is concerned 16/44 and 16/48 are the best.
Some people upconvert things at 192 kHz and output on a DAC at 192 KHz, which lowers quality a tiny bit. Perhaps some rare genuine 191 content exists? Still likely to give slightly worse sound than 48 KHz.