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Al-Qaeda Calls For the Execution Of Bill Gates and Others To 'Damage the US Economy' (betanews.com) 486

An anonymous reader writes: Al-Qaeda's official online propaganda magazine, Inspire, contains a montage of violent images -- things like guns and blood -- next to an image of Bill Gates. The terrorist group is urging its followers to murder successful business folks, such as Gates, which is absolutely sickening. The terrorist group says that murdering high ranking people can damage the U.S. economy.
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Al-Qaeda Calls For the Execution Of Bill Gates and Others To 'Damage the US Economy'

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  • While I wish no harm upon Bill Gates - in spite of being vehemently anti-Microsoft myself - I don't see what Al-Qaeda could expect to accomplish by killing him. He stepped down how many years ago from the top of Microsoft? This seems about as logical as watching too many reruns of ER and then deciding to kill George Clooney to harm our health care system.
    • by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 16, 2016 @01:36PM (#52121835)
      Al-Qaeda's the Jeb Bush of terrorist orgs. Once respected, they coasted for too long, grew fat and lazy and lost their edge. Now they're trying the tough-guy hat on again to look relevant, and it just looks weird and sad.
      • by creimer ( 824291 ) on Monday May 16, 2016 @01:43PM (#52121937) Homepage

        Al-Qaeda's the Jeb Bush of terrorist orgs. Once respected, they coasted for too long, grew fat and lazy and lost their edge.

        Like Jeb Bush, Al-Qaeda has an excellent donor network to fund future activities.

      • Al-Qaeda still exists?

      • by MightyMartian ( 840721 ) on Monday May 16, 2016 @03:41PM (#52123059) Journal

        So, really, they're the Microsoft of terrorist organizations!

    • And what would the world be like if we started killing the richest people in the world? I'm not for killing anyone ever, but what happens if you kill the .01% and keep culling until it doesn't exist anymore?

      • by halivar ( 535827 ) <bfelger.gmail@com> on Monday May 16, 2016 @01:41PM (#52121895)

        You eventually reach 0%? Or, maybe you can pick someone you like, and we'll stop culling right before it hits them? That's how people always expect these things to work. Robespierre learned the hard way that it does not.

        That's why talking about killing the rich and powerful is absolutely retarded. You'd be the second guy up against the wall.

        • So in the long run, was the french revolution a good thing or a bad thing?

          • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

            by halivar ( 535827 )

            After 10 years, they went straight back to monarchism under Napoleon, after all the revolutionary Jacobins were dead. Whether that was a good thing or bad thing is left as an exercise to the reader. Code Napoleon was great; losing a generation of men to war was not.

          • Napoleon

      • by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 16, 2016 @01:42PM (#52121915)

        what happens if you kill the .01% and keep culling until it doesn't exist anymore?

        You're left with just the people who don't understand percentages.

        • what happens if you kill the .01% and keep culling until it doesn't exist anymore?

          You're left with just the people who don't understand percentages.

          And people who don't understand Zeno's "Achilles and the Tortoise" paradox.

          • by rbrander ( 73222 )

            And people who don't understand it was tried for several thousand years. No, seriously.

            I can't think of any better descriptions of feudalism than the concentration of what little mobile wealth there was into 0.01%, who then proceed to kill each other over those spoils, ad infinitum. Look how few noble houses really made it more than 3 or 4 generations. Skim down the "92 hereditary members" of the British House of Lords and note how few of the "th" numbers are in the teens...and of course we're several ge

      • And what would the world be like if we started killing the richest people in the world? I'm not for killing anyone ever, but what happens if you kill the .01% and keep culling until it doesn't exist anymore?

        You get Ayn Rand's "Rapture of the Rich" fantasy.

      • by tnk1 ( 899206 )

        By definition, you can't kill the top %0.1 by killing the incumbents, because they're replaced immediately by the next runners-up.

        And even if you ignore my pedantic description of how percentages work, the fact is that killing of today's elites without ending the root causes of income disparity is only going to result in an endless cycle of killing rich people off.

        Only... the new rich people won't be stupid enough to let you kill them they way their predecessors went.

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      I agree. They would be much better off targeting Donald Trump.

      Man, we would be so screwed if they did that. The whole country would probably be in chaos instantly if they went after Donald Trump. I don't know how we would handle such a thing

      I sure hope they don't set their sights on Donald Trump instead.

    • While I wish no harm upon Bill Gates - in spite of being vehemently anti-Microsoft myself - I don't see what Al-Qaeda could expect to accomplish by killing him. He stepped down how many years ago from the top of Microsoft? This seems about as logical as watching too many reruns of ER and then deciding to kill George Clooney to harm our health care system.

      They just don't think laterally enough. Economy depends on infrastructure and governance and some key businesses supported by that infrastructure and governance.

      - How much does Apple help the US economy? What happens to Apple if someone were to kill off their entire security team?
      - There are less than a dozen locations in the USA where you could effectively take out the US Internet.
      - How about making the main deep water harbors unusable?
      - Dress up as cops and shoot a bunch of militia guys in one place, a bu

      • by swb ( 14022 )

        I think you're on the right path and I really want to comment but I'm too darned afraid of being dragged out of bed in the middle of the night or put on some kind of a watch list.

    • by houstonbofh ( 602064 ) on Monday May 16, 2016 @02:23PM (#52122313)
      They come from a "low trust society." Put simply, by default, they do not trust each other. While the US is a high trust society, and by default we do trust each other. This makes things like disaster recovery and business continuity much easier as the people in power do not see it as a threat to their power. In much of the mid-east, it is seen as a threat and is imposable. That is why this tactic would work very well over there. But over hear all it would do is spread around capital, and pass leadership to new and potentially more vibrant leaders willing to take more risks. In short, it may actually stimulate the economy, and piss off the public at large. Talk about unintended consequences!
    • I think a better analogy would be AQ calling for killing HW to cripple the US government, even though he's not part of the government any more and hasn't been for many, many years and is quite elderly and liable to pass away from natural causes at any time. Basically, AQ seems to be stuck in a time vortex and not realize that the year is 2016, not 1996.

    • by Z00L00K ( 682162 )

      I agree - targeting Bill Gates today is pretty useless. Larry Ellison on the other hand might cause a bigger splash.

      Targeting the Windows validation server infrastructure would however cause a bigger impact if all backup keys were destroyed.

    • by jellomizer ( 103300 ) on Monday May 16, 2016 @03:00PM (#52122635)

      Most of this stuff is due to pure ignorance of how America works. Their minds are focused on the idea of a centralized source of power. A supreme leader or a king.
      The U.S. in general has power distributed where someone can be valuable however not indispensable. In theory you can kill the CEO's of the fortune 500 and still the U.S. Economy will still run. Their wealth will be transferred to next of kin, their investments will still be moving most companies can keep up to day to day operations for an while before they can replace the loss in leadership.

      • by Dr_Terminus ( 1222504 ) on Monday May 16, 2016 @04:43PM (#52123573)

        The funny thing is that this is almost a reflection of the West's understanding of how Al Qaeda works. How long did we focus on going after Bin Laden or any of the other top guys, as if taking out those guys is sufficient to wipe out an entire ideology. Likely the mis-targeted drone strikes and other operations undertaken to eliminate these figureheads only served to bring more to the extremist ideology.

    • by CohibaVancouver ( 864662 ) on Monday May 16, 2016 @03:05PM (#52122689)

      While I wish no harm upon Bill Gates - in spite of being vehemently anti-Microsoft myself - I don't see what Al-Qaeda could expect to accomplish by killing him. He stepped down how many years ago from the top of Microsoft? This seems about as logical as watching too many reruns of ER and then deciding to kill George Clooney to harm our health care system.

      The Gates Foundation funds education, including education for girls.

      An educated populous is the greatest threat to a theocracy.

      This is what naming Gates is all about.

      • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

        The Gates Foundation funds education, including education for girls.

        An educated populous is the greatest threat to a theocracy.

        This is what naming Gates is all about.

        Yeah, but that has nothing to do with harming the US economy. And given how it's run, Gates probably spends very little time managing it, so even if the Gates are murdered, the foundation's work continues on.

        And for the big companies, there already are succession plans.

        To harm the US economy by killing one or two targets is extr

    • While I wish no harm upon Bill Gates - in spite of being vehemently anti-Microsoft myself

      Same here. I can't stand him, but I don't wish him any harm.

      It's ridiculous to think that killing him would have any actual effect on the US economy. The Al-Qaeda people must be huffing chemtrails.

    • I went the other way. What's with the "which is absolutely sickening" line? They're talking about murdering people. Murder is a thing. It's murder; it's not special. Brown people in Uganda get murdered. White people get murdered trying to drive through gang neighborhoods at night. Black people get murdered trying to walk through East Texas during the day. What's so special about rich people that we're supposed to feel more or less disturbed that people want to murder them?

    • by AK Marc ( 707885 ) on Monday May 16, 2016 @03:15PM (#52122781)
      They did more damage to the US economy by using airplanes to take down the Twin Towers, than the damage done to the Twin Towers. This just proves it was an accident they were successful.

      If they wanted to collapse the US economy, they should bomb 5 airports with bombs inside luggage that goes off in the scanner line. All 5 within 1 minute of each other spread around. Then, two weeks later, set off 5 more in the ticketing lines. Then, presuming the response is greater curb-side inspections, wait another few weeks and set off car bombs.

      Attacking the security perimeter shows that the idea of a perimeter is the failure, and nobody will ever feel safe again. Random acts of terrorism that attacks the common person will do more. Hijack a pizza delivery guy and deliver a bomb instead. Nobody will order delivery food again, if they fear getting a bomb instead. The terror will cripple the US economy.
      • by bungo ( 50628 ) on Tuesday May 17, 2016 @07:28AM (#52126607)

        The bombers of the airport in Brussels exploded their bombs in the check-in area (before the passport control and even further from the baggage scanners). When the airport reopened, they had pushed the security as far back as they could.

        There are now military+police checkpoints for cars before you get near the airport, just off the highway exits. It would be difficult to get a car bomb past. You have to get dropped off in a specific car park and walk up to 2 km to get to the security queue to get into the temporary airport buildings.

        The queue for the next security check, where they check bags is about 500m long. Everyone is in a very long, thin queue. If there were bombs in the bags to be checked in, the best they could do is explode in the queue outside of the building, which would cause little damage, except to the few within 10m or so.

        The end result is a nightmare of an airport, with people avoiding it and not flying. Passenger numbers are way down. A friend who flew recently took 4 hours to get through the security lines and to his flight. He just made it, even though it was a morning flight, and he arrived 4 hours in advance, at around 6am. I would hate to see the queue at 10am or later.

        It hasn't crippled the economy, but has really screwed the operators of the airport and all of the airlines using it.

  • Woohoo (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 16, 2016 @01:33PM (#52121795)

    Finally, the year of the Linux desktop

  • by Jawnn ( 445279 ) on Monday May 16, 2016 @01:34PM (#52121807)
    ...to murder influential people to advance your socio-economic agenda. Right? What was that passage again?
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      It's the one right after the one that identifies itself as the religion of peace.

    • by rahvin112 ( 446269 ) on Monday May 16, 2016 @03:04PM (#52122671)

      Al Qaeda was born of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. They drew lessons from that and thought they were applicable to other situations. The leadership of Al Qaeda has many mistaken views.

      The first is that the mujaheddin, the "faithful" who opposed the soviet invasion actually drove the soviets out. In reality the Soviets had them beat until Americans started funneling advanced weapons in which neutralized the Soviets weapons.

      The second is that the expense of fighting the mujaheddin was so costly it resulted in the collapse of the Soviet economy and the unwinding of the entire Soviet state and a withdrawal from "Muslim lands". Of course the reality is that Afghanistan was a side adventure for the Soviets, it was the collapse in oil prices (the only way the Soviets could earn hard currency) in the 80's along with trying to keep up with the American defense spending of the 80's that did the Soviet government in. This double wammy exhausted the currency and gold reserves of the soviet state and resulted in collapse.

      The third is that Americans were not willing to sacrifice blood and would retreat in the face of actual combat.

      The first two misconceptions have driven the entire strategy of Al Qaeda since the start. They truly believed that by drawing America into a war in the middle east that not only would America be beaten handily but that the economy would collapse and America would be forced to abandon the middle east (their goal). After the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq they thought they had triggered the end of the American empire when the crash of 2008 happened.

      The subsequent recovery has put a lie to their predictions so the natural path is to assume something prevented it. Like any good religion they've decided the reason the American economy didn't collapse was because of the wealthy Americans, not because their original assumptions were stupid and wrong. This an organization that wants to bring back slavery and the laws of 700AD Islam and that anything that goes against (capitalism and democracy) that is a perversion that's doomed to failure. The existence and success of America and western states makes this belief a lie. They will continue to come up with "reasons" why their predictions haven't come true and undoubtedly urge the killing of all kinds of people in an effort to make it happen.

      They simply don't understand America or the West and what makes us collectively strong.

    • by cant_get_a_good_nick ( 172131 ) on Monday May 16, 2016 @03:54PM (#52123181)

      I know you're joking, but after seeing a few tattoos of teachings of Leviticus i can assure you that many of the most devout followers of any religious book really don't understand it. The Bible/Torah/Qu'ran can at times be seen as a Rorschach test, where you really see what's in the mind of the viewer rather than the book itself.

  • Well... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by mlwmohawk ( 801821 ) on Monday May 16, 2016 @01:36PM (#52121837)

    Obviously I wish no ill will on anyone, but let's be honest, there are a number of "successful" people who's loss would improve the economy.

    • by Hentes ( 2461350 )

      Yeah, imagine how bad the 2008 crisis would have been if the terrorists haven't got half the brokers at 9/11.

  • by NewtonsLaw ( 409638 ) on Monday May 16, 2016 @01:36PM (#52121841)

    I guess Al Qaeda woke up to find their Windows 7 had been automatically upgraded to Windows 10 then? That's got to piss them off.

  • I must have that number blocked. O well.
  • Remind me why... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Can anyone remind me why it's bigoted to point out that most of the terrorism in the world is Islamic? Also, why is it bigoted to point out that the Qur'an calls for violence against nonbelievers but the New Testament says to love your enemies? Why is it acceptable to condemn the Westboro Baptist Church for their hatred but wrong to condemn Islam for their hatred and violence?

    • I remember when most terrorism we got to hear about was from the Irish -- should we condemn all Irish for the actions of a few wackos?

      There's a Christian Pastor, can't remember his name right now, but he's famous for holding a "Kill the Gays" rallies. The Klu Klux Klan considers itself a Christian organization, and if I can Godwin this conversation, Hilter was not a Muslim, and yet you're defending Christianity?

      From an atheist viewpoint, *all* your damn religions are about violence against others.

    • by overshoot ( 39700 ) on Monday May 16, 2016 @02:33PM (#52122403)

      Can anyone remind me why it's bigoted to point out that most of the terrorism in the world is Islamic?

      Because if it's not being done by Muslims, we call it something else.

      • by Trogre ( 513942 )

        How utterly ingenuous. Do you actually believe that or are you just regurgitating mindless rhetoric?

  • Kill off the rich? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by ilsaloving ( 1534307 ) on Monday May 16, 2016 @01:49PM (#52121993)

    So... they want to kill off rich people in the hopes of *hurting* the economy?

    Can I assume that people are already tweeting them suggestions on who to go after, so that all the money that is currently being sequestered by all these rich people will finally be released back into the economy?

  • They are trying to "take focus" away from ISIS and get back in the spotlight.
    They know they are outdated and trying to get back up to speed in this Apps and Social driven reality.

    Up next:
    They are going to threaten Steve Jobs.
  • Let Bill serve as a decoy, because if they bag Larry Ellison, Tim Cook or Jeff Bezos it'll totally be game over.

    • They were going to try Larry Ellison but the waiting list from disgruntled Oracle and Java users meant that they wouldn't have had an attempt until 2035 at the earliest.

  • by cant_get_a_good_nick ( 172131 ) on Monday May 16, 2016 @01:59PM (#52122083)

    I mean, if they're going after Gates, might as well try to take out Apple too...

  • by FilmedInNoir ( 1392323 ) on Monday May 16, 2016 @01:59PM (#52122089)
    Instead of blowing up buildings and killing people (which for some sick reason boosts the economy) they would all get jobs as investment bankers and mortgage brokers.
  • by Progman3K ( 515744 ) on Monday May 16, 2016 @02:08PM (#52122177)

    Those terrorists sound like idiotic schoolchildren that have no idea how things work.

    Talk about moronic... They couldn't make themselves appear dumber if they tried

  • Alqueda_Propaganda_KillBill_Collage.wmv *Made with Windows Movie Maker
  • by overshoot ( 39700 ) on Monday May 16, 2016 @02:13PM (#52122237)

    The terrorist group says that murdering high ranking people can damage the U.S. economy.

    They've been reading waaaaaaay too much Ayn Rand.

  • ppl like gates and Welch, immelt, fiorina, romety, etc would actually help America. problem is, that they will be the most protected ppl going.
  • by tehlinux ( 896034 ) on Monday May 16, 2016 @02:28PM (#52122361)

    The Al-Qaeda spokesman was able to issue the statement because he hadn't died from malaria.

  • You may not agree, but some people hold the opinion that Steve Jobs was a visionary and that Apple has been going downhill ever since he died and as Apple uses up the ideas he bulked up before abandoning us to the afterlife. In theory, a sudden and unexpected death of Steve Jobs would have had a measurably impact on Apple’s performance.

    But these other people? Bill Gates hardly plays a role at Microsoft anymore, and most major companies have contingency plans to recover from losing their CEO anyhow.

  • Killing Bill Gates would only affect his gardener and the pool cleaning staff.

    I suppose it's possible that the local Ferrari dealership may see a slight drop in sales. Other than that, no impact on the US economy.

  • by 140Mandak262Jamuna ( 970587 ) on Monday May 16, 2016 @03:51PM (#52123137) Journal
    (Caveat: I used to belong to sort of them. Was Indian. Now American).

    In the West, we have built very strong enduring institutions. For people who grew up in the USA, they seem to be slowly decaying becoming corrupt. But only when you come in from a different society, after growing up there, you would see the difference. The level of honesty and trust in the government, in the institutions, private or public, is very high in America. It would take India a century or more to build such institutions of integrity. I told my bond broker cousin in Bombay, "As the Watergate scandal was picking up steam, IRS audited the sitting President of the USA, found him in violation of tax code, and assessed half a million dollars in taxes and penalties. It cut Nixon's net worth by half. Nixon paid without complaining or creating a ruckus. Nixon!". He was stunned beyond belief. Such things do not simply happen there. Despite all the insider trading and the banksters becoming fraudsters, SEC and Wall Street is light years ahead of regulation and disclosure of Indian capital markets.

    Here in USA we build mountains. Someone is on top of the mountain, but there are several who could replace him/her, and that person, single handedly does not achieve any thing big. In the Middle East and in India, probably China, it is all personality cult. Build one pedestal, put a flag pole on it, and put their leader on top of the flag pole. Leader goes down, there is no one to step and continue the system. The leader actively undermines and sabotages the career of anyone who could replace him. Surrounded by sycophants and flatterers, the leaders live in bubbles. India is way better than Pakistan in this respect, and Pakistan is better than Bangladesh and the Arab countries. But none of them even come close to USA, Canada, Western Europe, Australia and NZ in terms of governance and public integrity.

Vitamin C deficiency is apauling.

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