No, the Internet Has Not Killed the Printed Book - Most People Still Prefer Them (nytimes.com) 140
Daniel Victor, writing for The New York Times: Even with Facebook, Netflix and other digital distractions increasingly vying for time, Americans' appetite for reading books -- the ones you actually hold in your hands -- has not slowed in recent years (Editor's note: the link could be paywalled; alternate source), according to a study by the Pew Research Center. Sixty-five percent of adults in the United States said they had read a printed book in the past year, the same percentage that said so in 2012. When you add in ebooks and audiobooks, the number that said they had read a book in printed or electronic format in the past 12 months rose to 73 percent, compared with 74 percent in 2012. Twenty-eight percent said they had opted for an ebook in the past year, while 14 percent said they had listened to an audiobook. Lee Rainie, the director of internet, science and technology research for Pew Research, said the study demonstrated the staying power of physical books. "I think if you looked back a decade ago, certainly five or six years ago when ebooks were taking off, there were folks who thought the days of the printed book were numbered, and it's just not so in our data," he said. The 28 percent who said they had read an ebook in the past year has remained relatively steady in the past two years, but the way they are consuming ebooks is changing.
Let me make this easy for you. (Score:5, Insightful)
Form-factor. Form-factor. Form-factor.
Books are still around because we understand and have crafted them to exist in a particular, easy to transport, easy to trade form factor. Mass printed books have been around for almost 600 years at this point. We have thoroughly explored the technology.
Electronic format, on the other hand, has not been as thoroughly explored. It's still finding itself. There's going to be a good while before everyone becomes happy with it. Until such time, the printed book is not going to be replaced.
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plus the fact is having an actual prepared skin of a critter with pulped dried and bleached wood Tome is a good crash proof way of storing data (and OCR friendly glyphs can solve the data density issue).
plus all else failing to read a book in a cave you need a chunk of wood, rags, oil, flint and stone (and a rock to sit on if you have a long book).
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nonsense, my e-reader has better form factor than any book. weighs less, is much thinner, and holds thousands of books with adjustable font & brightness
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" with adjustable font & brightness"
That is the important part for those of us that have poor vision
I prefer to read white text on a black background, and of course you can easily enlarge the font.
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Yes and your e-reader's display is crap compared to a printed page.
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The contrast is better, the text is sharper, it provides its own light, it weighs less, it doesn't lose my place when I drop it, it's less fragile.
Nope. The paper book is in every way inferior.
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The internet killed the printed book for me and what is this e-reader thing you talk off? Reality is, the article is hugely misleading. I read books a lot and that stupid statement "Sixty-five percent of adults in the United States said they had read a printed book in the past year", makes not sense what so ever to me, read one, just one book in a year, when I was an active book reader, read one book in a day and a couple in a week, was more like it. The internet has killed the printed book for me because
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I don't disagree with your premise, but not all works on an ereader must necessarily be DRM laden.
While DRM is a large disadvantage of ebook vs printed on the readers that utilize it, because DRM is not a hard and fast requirement for ebooks in general, I wouldn't say it's the biggest one.
Probably the biggest disadvantage that active display technology readers have over the printed page is that they are simply harder on the eyes to read for extended periods. This is mitigated by using a passive displa
Have you tried E-Ink (Score:1)
I was a long-time believer in printed books, but I was comparing them to computers, tablets and phones. In this case, books are indeed superior for reasons I'm sure others will point out. But now I'm convinced that when e-ink exits its current patent-encumbered status, large swaths of the current paper publishing industry will die. Not all, but lots.
Earlier this year I got a cheap e-ink ebook reader from Kobo for my birthday. I read a book on it to make the giver (my wife) happy, thinking it would go in t
patience is called for (Score:2)
I think this is simply because e-book formats are immature. There's no technical reason an e-book / reader combo couldn't present you with fabulous, full color maps and illustrations, plus links to more, etc. It's just that the current formats are crippled, and also, that some conversion
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Exactly. The first eBook reader (according to Wikipedia) was released in 2004 - twelve years ago. The Amazon Kindle (the most popular eBook reader right now) was first released in 2007 - only 9 years ago. Think about where computers were when they were nine years old. We didn't go from the first consumer model of a personal computer to smartphones in a decade or two. The first personal computer was released in 1981. (There were similar devices earlier, but the IBM Personal Computer coined the term.) That
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I'm sorry, e-ink sucks. LCD or OLED is the way to go, e-ink gives me a massive headache and it's FAR harder to read.
Better tool than a book, yet I love books (Score:5, Insightful)
I thought I would hate the kindle both for it's form factor and because I have a sort of photographic memory for page layouts when recalling information in text books. Since I don't read textbooks often anymore--most things are now searchable on the internet, what I found was the convenience of the kindle in being able to take a lot of books on travel, even pick them up at the airport, and also to make the fonts larger are killer reasons it's better than print. I personally use it to the exclusion of books for all new books. I still buy used books because the price is better.
What kills me about the kindle is two things. One is when I read great book the first thing I want to do is give it to a friend. And you can't. The second thing is you can't put it on your trophy shelf. I like looking at the books I've loved on my shelf as they recall bits of the story I liked at a glance. It tells others about me in a way I want to tell, and it's lets you pick one out and give it to a friend.
So I love books and hate the kindle, except that it's a far better tool than a book. It's just that books are more than tools, they have identities and you want to share them.
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Easy solution: Buy a physical copy and a Kindle copy!
(I'm not just saying that because my first book is being published soon and I'd love to get double-royalties. Not at all!)
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Or else switch to a device that's not locked down in this manner. I use the Kobo Glo [wikipedia.org] - it natively supports EPUB unlike the Kindle, and also has a nice backlight for night reading.
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Form-factor. Form-factor. Form-factor.
Books are still around because we understand and have crafted them to exist in a particular, easy to transport, easy to trade form factor. Mass printed books have been around for almost 600 years at this point. We have thoroughly explored the technology.
Electronic format, on the other hand, has not been as thoroughly explored. It's still finding itself. There's going to be a good while before everyone becomes happy with it. Until such time, the printed book is not going to be replaced.
I find the form factor of eBooks a lot more convenient. For one, no more requirement of bookshelves, or books gathering dust. All the books that I will buy would be on Amazon/B&N/whatever, where I can read them from my iPad or Ellipsis. Also, I've picked the white typeface on black background, which makes it easier on my eyes to read. Reading books has been a lot better since the Kindle app came around
Re:Let me make this easy for you. (Score:5, Funny)
You can cut a square out of the inside of the pages to make a hidden compartment.
You can use the pages as fuel for a fire.
You can set the book up on the floor at an angle to make a ramp for your son's cars.
You can use a book to look like you're sophisticated at a coffee shop, rather than look like you're on facebook.
You can underline, highlight, makes notes on a book.
But, you can carry around your entire library on a digital device.
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But, you can carry around your entire library on a digital device until the author, publisher, distributor, DRM provider, or some nameless schmuck pushing the wrong button erases it from your e-book reader and then proceeds to deny you a refund, or decides to change the content, or otherwise denies you access to it.
There, fixed that for you and everyone else reading this thread.
When you make a digital 'purchase' (using the term loosely here), you never really OWN it, you're only RENTING it. It literally can be yanked out from under you with no notice and with no effort on their part, and you have effectively no recourse. A printed book? They have to break into your house and TAKE it from you physically.
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Well, it's possible with certain books from certain vendors, but that's far from being true about all ebooks/readers in all occasions.
You can get ebooks without DRM. You can get ebooks from lots of sources, and manage the files yourself without any outsider having any way to access/control them. You can often modify/strip DRM from books that have it, putting them in your control.
There was one incident, with Amazon and the book 1984 (I think?) years ago. The grandparent is acting like it happens all the time
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When you make a digital 'purchase' (using the term loosely here), you never really OWN it, you're only RENTING it.
That is true with many current readers. 8-{
But the ability to store a lot, is seperate from the DRM and intrusion. As the old saying goes, "Let the buyer beware!"
I say, as I sit here by my bookshelves... 8-)
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eh? I've dropped my ereader and it's fine.
get a paperback book wet and it can be ruined.
my e-reader doesn't pop up anything
the formats for e-books can be reversed engineered rather easily, no chance of them ever becoming unreadable. have a look at them sometime
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"A book in the past year"? And this measures "enthusiasm" for books of any kind?
Hilarious.
People who buy a book a year are not those who drive the market for books. Period.
Furthermore, I've read (reluctantly) printed books in the past year, the main reason for which is because there was no electronic version of that particular volume.
These people are counting teeth to see how many toes there are.
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These people are counting teeth to see how many toes there are.
Like me, many people who read actual books (not the e-book troll you people fell for, LOL) KEEP THEM and read them again. You have enough of a library, you forget enough details that over time an old book is enjoyable again to rediscover the details within. That's why WE don't need to buy as many new books every year. I read dozens of books every year -- just not new ones all the time. I buy maybe a handful of new ones every year -- and KEEP THEM.
You're a jackass and need to have your shit slapped until yo
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my e-reader holds thousands of books and is backed up. my house couldn't hold them all
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you are not providing any argument for printed books
I can read my e-reader books over decades too, and even have them if my house burns down or sustains water damage with e-reader in it
your books would be gone in that case.
hope you don't get silverfish or other book eating bugs
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Well... but my Big Bambu Cheech and Chong LP came with a huge rolling paper. So there's that.
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get a paperback book wet and it can be ruined.
Boohoo, you'll be out $5-$10.
Get an e-reader wet and you're out a lot more.
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eh I've had my e-reader in heavy rain many times during my commute. no problem. try that with a book
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the formats for e-books can be reversed engineered rather easily, no chance of them ever becoming unreadable. have a look at them sometime
Sure. And if you get caught doing that, or enabling someone else to do that, or distributing a way to do that, or even get caught with a decrypted, DRM-free version of something, you can be convicted of a federal crime, because of the insane copyright and DRM laws in this country. Hell, if they had their way, discussing the subject would be illegal. Nope, nope, nope. I'll stick with printed books. You have to break into my house and physically take those from me, or destroy them, or blind me so I can't read
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no we can get the government to declare one "child pornography", or to suspect you own such, and have them kick in your door. this has happened
Display (Score:2)
Displays are my main problem. You simply can't read on a screen as easily as on real paper. As for e-paper screens: they are nice in theory, but there are almost no books available outside of piracy or DRM restricted places which add spyware to your device.
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Displays are my main problem.
I used to have the same issue. However, in recent years I have upgraded to a much larger LED backlit display and soon discovered that it's easier and more comfortable to read at the computer desk than any other way. Some of it has to do with the rendering software as well. If it's a bad app, it makes for a bad reading experience. I am picky about the software. Kindle, for instance, is not very good, but I can live with it.
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Since 2011, most of my reading is done in a Galaxy S. I read before I sleep, so I use amber text over a black background, with the dimmest light intensity available. I haven't found any better alternative to an AMOLED display, it is just excellent. I have a newer Acer smartphone, but its display sucks in comparison, at least in low light settings.
And for software, I can't recommend enough the Moon+ Reader app for Android, it has everything you need and the UI is perfect, imo. If any dev reads this, congrats
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No, not at all. I am a stereotypical programmer with the lights out in my office, so I have the backlight set for low light all the time.
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but there are almost no books available outside of piracy or DRM restricted places which add spyware to your device.
I think in a backhanded sort of way you may highlight why eBooks don't rule the world. I don't care about DRM so much as the fact that Amazon (for example) gets to decide which products that I paid for I can still use.
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No, watermarking is no issue for me. Its an intellectual property protection mechanism that is not DRM.
dead trees make better paper. (Score:2)
I have about 40-50 books on knindle and nook, but I used my price fixing settlement to buy a real books.
Paper can still be good (Score:4, Insightful)
I can't get a kindle book from a friend, read it, then pass it on to another friend.
I can't shop around a used kindle book store.
You can't display kindle books, which is an aesthetic that many people love in a home, a shelf full of interesting books.
Ebooks are a more convenient form of something, not a replacement for the thing. It's a portable version of real thing, not a new real thing.
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Huh.
Some of my Nook books have a "loan" option which allows me to share the book with a friend. Of course, it probably requires the other person to be a Nook user... I have never used the feature myself.
I prefer my e-ink Nook to traditional books for these reasons:
- Easier to hold
- Easier to bookmark
- Easier to carry
- No outside light source required
- Page synching between devices (in case I want to read on my phone instead)
I do, however, still prefer paper books for technical manuals and programming books
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I can't get a kindle book from a friend, read it, then pass it on to another friend.
I can't lend a kindle book to a friend and have him never return it, even after I remind him twice. Hey there are plus sides.
Display paper books? (Score:1)
Bookshelves are clutter. They don't look good, IMO.
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You can use the Kindle like a generic reader and do lots of management outside of Amazon. I've got ebooks from many sources (Project Gutenberg being a big one) loaded on my Kindle, no problem. And even Amazon sells some books without DRM. Probably not from any of the big publishers, but it's an option when you self-publish - I've done it myself with my books. I almost never do a direct purchase to Kindle from Amazon, though sometimes I'll push a sample or free ebook from there.
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The best part about a physical book (Score:2)
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I have left my Nook e-ink tablet off the charger for months and come back to it without having lost much charge at all. It eventually just shuts itself off completely, requiring me to go through the boot up process again.
Even if I use it actively, it will last for weeks on a single charge.
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get a nice long USB cable; problem mostly solved
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I use the big thick technical books (Score:2)
as a stand for my laptop to watch netflix on.
Audio Books (Score:2)
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I just wish I didn't have to put up with iTunes to do it.
Last I heard (no pun intended), Audible works on just about every device imaginable.
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I can read five times faster than a person can talk. And that is just when I need to retain it all. Audio books are very frustrating to me, like listening to music played at too slow a speed.
And when I am working, I don't like distractions. I work in what the psychologists call a "state of flow" (which anyone can do if they know how). The only thing I would want to play is noise, to cover up outside sounds.
...what? (Score:2)
Sixty-five percent of adults in the United States said they had read a printed book in the past year, the same percentage that said so in 2012
That's a terrible question. Considering that most people who bother to read books even when they're not being forced to generally read much much more than one book per year, it's not really giving a very accurate picture. I got my first e-reader in 2012, and have hundreds of ebooks in my library now (all of them read). Despite all of that, I can still say I've read at least one physical book per year. It's just that the percentage of my reading done on physical books has dropped from 100% to 1%.
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My thinking exactly. The poll questions seem to have been contrived to match someone's desired outcome.
Same Price? (Score:2)
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I buy most of my ebooks from Google Play or Kobo, and in both cases I can easily decrypt the epubs, so I have a nice little library that can fit on my phone and tablet.
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Usually the ebooks cost roughly the same as the paperback. In that case, I'd rather own a physical object.
I hear this complaint a lot. But I'm betting you leave the house with your phone way more often than you leave the house with that physical book. Ever ride the bus? Ever go to the DMV? Ever show up early for a movie? Ever have a friend text you that they're going to be late? In those instances, would you rather fish around on the floor for a copy of yesterday's sports section or pick any book you like from your entire library?
Well, then, what happened to bookstores? (Score:2)
Interesting study, but it begs the question of what happened to bookstores? Most communities have seen a huge contraction in brick and mortar bookstores.
The most common explanation is that many people buy from Amazon rather than go to a bookstore.
So the general conclusion may be that physical books are far from dead, but physical bookstores could be another matter.
Here on O`ahu, we're down to one Barnes and Noble and one independent bookseller, plus a few of those "Book-off" mini-stores that have some used
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Believe it or not, in downtown San Francisco -- San Francisco, now -- I know of two small independent bookstores. There is no Barnes & Noble in the entire City, no Borders, no large bookstores of any kind. If you were to say to yourself, "I'm going to head downtown and do my Christmas shopping," books are a gift you probably would not buy, because you would not see any.
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Interesting study, but it begs the question of what happened to bookstores? Most communities have seen a huge contraction in brick and mortar bookstores.
The most common explanation is that many people buy from Amazon rather than go to a bookstore.
The other explanation is that the study is total BS. Asking if someone has read a single physical book in the space of a year is a terrible question to gauge the question of physical books vs ebooks. I generally read somewhere between 20 and 30 books a year, and since the advent of ebooks at least 90% of those haven't been physical copies. Despite that, my answer to the survey would could towards physical books still being in high demand, nevermind that I'm only buying them at a 10th of the rate I was befo
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Re: Kindle format is terrible (Score:2)
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To quote my local print-and-copy guy (Score:2)
Write-up vs. headline (Score:5, Insightful)
Headline:
A person, who read one paper book in 2016, but 10 such books in 2012 would not make a difference to the cited survey. And, of course, there is no evidence as to what people's preference is — are we reading paper-books, because we prefer it, or for other reasons?
My family brought a substantial library with us, when we immigrated. Our bookcases hold the cherished old friends.
But I would not expect my children to share the sentimental attachment. Because I myself would not be persuaded to go to bed with a papyrus or a box of clay tablets.
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I Prefer E-Books... mostly (Score:2)
I made the transition to e-books in the late '90s, starting with a huge download from Project Gutenberg onto my Palm Pilot. These days I almost entirely read books on an electronic device; for the most part, I find it far more convenient than hard-copy. It's usually lighter, easier to carry around (just slip it in the pocket!), the book stays open to the page you want whenever you put it down, and I can carry an entire library with me. The latter is extremely useful since I can finish a good book in just a
I've moved on from reference books. (Score:1)
2. For everything else, I'm working on a program to store notes and links in a very relational database, almost like an editable hypertext. I think of it as my extended mind.
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It's been done. [github.com]
I discovered vimwiki a year or so back and today I really don't know how I ever managed to live without it.
I keep everything from notes on books (ahem) to system administration and programming notes to a to-do list for my electrician that I will print out and give him the next time he's here.
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This does look very much along the lines of what I'm doing. Why isn't there a generic name for this sort of thing, so we can find them?
Depends on the use (Score:1)
For page-turners, I prefer paper.
For reference books and other books I rarely use but may need at any time, I prefer electronic.
Some books are both: I'll read a novel, technical manual, or other page-turner on paper, then go back and use the electronic version (or a Google book search) to refresh my memory later.
When space is at a premium, such as on airplanes, I almost always use electronic versions.
There is just something about holding a book (Score:1)
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A good solid E.M.P. wont erase civilization (Score:2)
Reason enough to cheer this development.
(oh for the people that will leap to nuclear war, think coronal mass ejection)
book printing gets tinier with age (Score:4, Interesting)
e-readers have adjustable font size.
Glad I don't have to read books with a large magnifier like my parents did
I still have my paper books but its hard to read them
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Glad I don't have to read books with a large magnifier like my parents did
Back when I was a teenager, my mom had this giant page-sized clear plastic magnifier she'd use while reading. I remember one evening hearing a yelp from her room, so we ran in. Turns out an earwig had walked across her book, and for a split second she thought there was this ginormous armored creature of some sort crawling onto her lap!
I read a lot (Score:2)
I read a lot, both on the kindle E-reader, the paper white is nice, and paperbacks, but I have several family members that read paperbacks only and we share them about freely. While on Amazon I can get a used paperback for $.01 regularly plus 3.99 shipping the kindle versions are almost always the same or more expensive as a new paperback. The kindle version doesn't smell right and in the end I can't donate it to charity or sell it back to the half priced book house in town. Just like the promise of digital
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While on Amazon I can get a used paperback for $.01 regularly plus 3.99 shipping the kindle versions are almost always the same or more expensive as a new paperback. The kindle version doesn't smell right and in the end I can't donate it to charity or sell it back to the half priced book house in town. Just like the promise of digital music downloads, the much hyped cost savings never really materialized for the end users, just a cut in production cost for the publishers resulting in more profit. I doubt if the author's even see any of it.
I guarantee an author would get more from your digital purchase than from the used physical book, if that's a genuine part of your decision making process.
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I do feel bad that the authors are getting screwed by the eBook process, but not enough to pay $9.00 for an eBook vs $4.00 for the used paperback. ($1 +2.99 shipping). I WISH that the authors got the difference in production cost from an EBook vs a new paperback though. If I could get a DRM free eBook for $5.00 I'd go that route, knowing the authors got their deserved share of a new purchase vs my used repurchase, knowing I could share the EBook with my cousin and niece. The amount I get from selling back t
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I don't fault your logic at all on the price. I buy used print quite a bit for the same reasons. Only commented because you transitioned from the price considerations to arguments about author rewards in a way that didn't make sense to me.
I do think a lot of indie ebook authors and publishers understand the economics the same way you do, but the big publishers for the most part haven't caught on yet. Still hoping they eventually do, rather than pursuing heavier DRM and more legal restrictions to try to prot
With e-books, there's a barrier to entry (Score:3)
I do wonder if there's some percentage of the population which won't consider e-books simply because of the cost of the initial outlay for the device? While technically you can read on your phone, even the phablets have rather small screens from that perspective... so for comfortable reading you're looking at buying an e-reader of some sort (e.g. Kindle) or a tablet.
On a side note... here on Slashdot, I have sworn many times I would never, ever spend large amounts of money to upgrade my old third-generation dog-chewed Kindle Keyboard. But, alas, on the most recent Prime Day the lure of the Voyage was too strong. Between the Prime Day discount, and buying a refurbished unit, the cost came down by about 40 percent... and I bit. I have to say it's a really nice device - having a built-in light is great, and the haptic "buttons" work pretty darn well. But I'm sorry, guys, I was weak... I didn't hold the line I swore to hold.
27% of Americans Didn't Read a Book Last Year! (Score:2)
DRM (Score:2)
I love having .pdf files lying around that I can print out. For ebooks, when I can be bothered, I have a script on my Linux box (and rotate the screen 90 degrees for the form factor) to xdotool key Right, sleep 1, screenshot, sleep 1, repeat, then magick it together into a pdf. Not brilliant, but with enough resolution you can get something worth printing out and reading (approx. 180 dpi).
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I always order hard copies.
So do I, if it is a book I want to read from cover to cover. But I am much more likely to buy it used, and when I am done reading it, instead of putting it on my bookshelf, I sell it back to Amazon for someone else to buy. I never buy reference books anymore, since it is much easier to look up information online. A decade ago, an entire wall in my office was covered with bookshelves full of books. Today, 90% of them have gone to Amazon, eBay, or Goodwill.
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Well, I've tried eBooks and switched back to paper for novels and any other casual reading. Hard to explain why, it just feels more comfortable.
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What a narrow minded and presumptious statement to post. Maybe you should just read then you might not be posting such generalising idiocy as you have.