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4chan Is Running Out of Money and Martin Shkreli Wants To Buy It (theverge.com) 254

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: The infamous message board 4chan is struggling to stay afloat and will have to make changes to reduce costs, the site's owner wrote in a post on Sunday. "4chan can't afford infrastructure costs, network fee, servers cost, CDN and etc, now," writes Hiroyuki Nisimura, who bought the site from its founder last year. Nisimura says ads haven't been effective enough to support the site, nor have subscriptions offering additional features. "We had tried to keep 4chan as is. But I failed," Nisimura writes. "I am sincerely sorry." There are three options for 4chan to survive going forward, as far as Nisimura sees it: sell more subscriptions, include "much more" -- and potentially even malicious -- ads, or cut traffic to the site in half. That might be done by closing message boards, slowing down the site, or reducing the size of images that can be posted. Nisimura makes it sound bad (his post is titled "Winter is coming"), but he also proposes changes to save the site. Meanwhile, another infamous name -- Martin Shkreli -- says he's interested in buying 4chan; he's in touch with Nisimura, so maybe we'll see how that remarkably bad combination turns out. Martin Shkreli tweeted: "I'm open to joining the Board of Directors of 4Chan. @4chan." Not too long after, Hiroyuki Nisimura replied: "I have replied your DM. Thank you for supporting 4chan @MartinShkreli twitter.com/MartinShkreli/...."
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4chan Is Running Out of Money and Martin Shkreli Wants To Buy It

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  • Hmm... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by fahrbot-bot ( 874524 ) on Monday October 03, 2016 @10:18PM (#53008393)

    8chan seems to be getting by and they have twice as many chans.

    • 8ch also doesn't get anywhere close to 27,700,000 unique visitors a month.

      • by Mashiki ( 184564 )

        Considering that 8chan pretty much started 3 years ago and is now one in the top 5k boards in the US and top 10k worldwide, they seem to be doing okay.

    • 8chan has more boards but far fewer users. 4chan has also seen a huge uptick in traffic this year.
  • by bmo ( 77928 ) on Monday October 03, 2016 @10:26PM (#53008443)

    Notch now looking into buying 4chan Anonymous 10/03/16(Mon)19:51:42 No.56909338â->>56909384 >>56909411 >>56909683 >>56909721 >>56910005 >>56910058 >>56910195 >>56910297 >>56910483 >>56910593 >>56910655 >>56910945
    A lucky anon on /b/ got quads, summoning Notch to look into buying 4chan.

    "Assuming it's not too expensive, and assuming I don't have to do any actual work myself, I'm in."

    Who here would work for notch maintaining the 4chan codebase ?

      Anonymous 10/03/16(Mon)19:56:06 No.56909384â-
    >>56909338 (OP)
    >entire website will be Java based
    >everything inside one .jar

    --
    BMO

    • And they will release an edu version that only runs on Windows 10

    • Jesus, how do you read that?

      Threaded forums were invented for a reason. Flat threads don't scare well to a lot of users. Fark ran into the issue. Usenet ran into the issue. E-mail lists ran into the issue.

      • >line eater food

        There are extensions that do threading and all sorts of stuff. For chrome and Firefox.

        >Usenet
        >Threaded

        Only if you turn it on in your newsreader.

        --
        BMO

      • by sl3xd ( 111641 )

        Threaded forums were invented for a reason.

        Threaded forums are a poor clone of Usenet.

        Sadly, Usenet has two issues:

        • * Usenet isn't as easily monetized as a website with banner ads and JavaScript tracking of every kind.
        • * Usenet is too easy to spam

        Usenet was a one-stop location for every kind of threaded discussion imaginable; no need to visit a different forum for a different subject, and the interface was always the same from one group to the next.

  • o_O (Score:4, Insightful)

    by XSportSeeker ( 4641865 ) on Monday October 03, 2016 @11:02PM (#53008621)

    A match forged in the deepest levels of Hell I guess?

    4chan board of directors: Martin Shkreli, Palmer Luckey, ...

  • by TheGratefulNet ( 143330 ) on Monday October 03, 2016 @11:24PM (#53008685)

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelli... [nymag.com]

    a fark theme, too, of course.

  • by cfalcon ( 779563 ) on Monday October 03, 2016 @11:25PM (#53008693)

    I can't imagine a more perfect match for 4chan than Martin Shkreli. They absolutely and completely deserve each other forever.

  • I read "Skillrex" when I was skimming message title. Very odd.
    But, at least he has more money than Shkreli to fund 4chan.

  • by Applehu Akbar ( 2968043 ) on Monday October 03, 2016 @11:48PM (#53008797)

    It's the beginning of October, not April.

    And can the fine structure of spacetime even withstand Martin Shkreli and 4chan being in the same place simultaneously?

  • Then everyone can exit the site for the exciting new 4.1chan.

  • by Shane_Optima ( 4414539 ) on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @01:45AM (#53009143) Journal
    If you want to help keep 4chan the way it is and not have it all crapped up with ads, a crowdfunding campaign has been set up here. [goo.gl]
  • Martin isn't buying it, neither is Notch. Both of them were just trolling.

    Nobody really knows what is going on. Hiroshamoot isn't really explaining, and even when he does post his English is lacking, at best. He refuses to take donations as well.

    Either way, I don't see any reason to be worried. I doubt it will shut down, and even if it does it won't change anything (Though it has died a few times in the past).

    Whenever a popular website shuts down, something rises to take its place. &TotSE died from it b

  • I think there is a much better financial model that no website or newswebsite is using. I've recommended it and suggested it and even advocated it to the point of offending people, but as far as I know, it remains untested. I'd even put some of my own money behind it if the opportunity existed, but as things stand, I feel entitled to sit back and laugh. Doubtless it's unjustified, but I guess we'll never know, will we?

    Fortunately, I don't care about 4chan and won't miss it.

    • I think there is a much better financial model that no website or newswebsite is using. I've recommended it and suggested it and even advocated it to the point of offending people, but as far as I know, it remains untested. I'd even put some of my own money behind it if the opportunity existed, but as things stand, I feel entitled to sit back and laugh. Doubtless it's unjustified, but I guess we'll never know, will we?

      No, we do know. We know that you haven't put your labor where your smug is and produced a website that uses this system in order to test whether it really is superior. Nerd up and write some code, or STFU

  • I predict- this will fix the internet!!

  • This isn't necessarily a bad thing. They just need to make sure they hold out for enough punches in Shkreli's face to make it worth it.
  • by Merk42 ( 1906718 ) on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @09:01AM (#53010331)
    A site full of self-entitled brats that block everything remotely close to an advertisement and are against any kind of subscription can't find a way to even cover maintenance costs?
    This is what all websites will face eventually.
    • People are willing to pay if the prices is right and the convenience is there.

      Are they ok whipping their credit card out for a monthly/annual subscription on every site they visit? No way, but that doesn't mean they are unwilling to pay anything.

      Micropayments have been proposed for years as an alternative to advertising but it hasn't been practical to enter payment data for every web site, or to make payments less than a dollar when there are credit card fees (and minimums?).

      Readability, Pocket/ReaditLater

  • Cutting traffic means cutting ad revenue. Is this guy retarded? trolling? What is going on?
    also server cost? Are they running on node.js or something?

    >network fees
    >or reducing the size of images that can be posted

    why the hell are you self hosting images then? let imgur or other cancer take care of that (and the money from ads they inject because apparently you are incompetent).

    • 4chan is an imageboard, not a forum. It centers around sharing images and short video, which are the main point of the site. The discussion is merely incidental.
  • by ilsaloving ( 1534307 ) on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @10:35AM (#53010797)

    I think it makes perfect sense for a business troll to own a board that spawns online trolls. They can synergize their core competencies and raise trolling to new, unheard of, levels.

  • by Verdatum ( 1257828 ) on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @11:52AM (#53011263)
    Hey, Whipslash, maybe you guys should get in on this one!

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