Kennedy Space Center Braces For Hurricane Matthew (cbsnews.com) 82
Hurricane Matthew, one of the most powerful storms to hit Florida's Space Coast in the last 50 years, is expected to pummel the Kennedy Space Center and the Cape Canaveral Air Force Station Thursday night and into Friday. "Kennedy Space Center is now in HurrCon 1 status, meaning a hurricane is imminent. Hurricane preparations at Kennedy were completed early last night, and remaining employees were then sent home," NASA spokesman George Diller said in a blog post today. CBS News reports: The National Hurricane Center is predicting heavy rain, dangerous storm surges and winds gusting up to 140 mph along Florida's east coast with the eye passing just off shore or directly over Cape Canaveral and the Kennedy Space Center. Satellite observations of Matthew show the hurricane features "a distinct eye surrounded by very deep convection," the National Hurricane Center reported in its 11 a.m. EDT update. "Data from an Air Force reconnaissance plane traversing the eye of the hurricane also indicate that Matthew has strengthened. Members of a 139-member "rideout" team will be stationed at various facilities across the space center to monitor critical systems "and report any significant events" to emergency operations personnel in the Complex 39 Launch Control Center where space shuttle launchings were once managed. "After the hurricane has passed, and winds have dropped below 50 knots, areas around KSC will be assessed and the damage assessment and recovery team will report for duty," said Diller. You can view satellite images of the storm here.
Re: Global warming (Score:1, Insightful)
Seriously? There has been a long lull in major hurricanes for at least a decade which has directly contradicted the prophecies of the global warming cultist priests made 20 years ago. Yet more proof of a yet another false apocalyptic end of the world cult.
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Even a rough googling or wiki'ing proves that to be incorrect.
Just the Atlantic [wikipedia.org], noting the bits "Tied for third most active season on record" and " Tied for second most hurricanes in a season on record", for example. Sandy's in there.
How about this cyclone [wikipedia.org], part of a weather system that kept the majority of QLD flooded for most of summer that year? The year I finally bought a generator, because I got tired of throwing away perishable food.
Deaths are low these days because we see them coming, but they still
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noting the bits "Tied for third most active season on record" and " Tied for second most hurricanes in a season on record", for example. Sandy's in there.
Or "Tied (with 1982) for fewest hurricanes since 1930".
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noting the bits "Tied for third most active season on record" and " Tied for second most hurricanes in a season on record", for example. Sandy's in there.
Or "Tied (with 1982) for fewest hurricanes since 1930".
The only ones that count are the ones that hit the USA. All others are irrelevant.
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Even a rough googling or wiki'ing proves that to be incorrect.
He meant 'hurricanes that damaged property in the USA.'
In his world, hurricanes, cyclones & typhoons that wreak havoc in 'other places' don't count.
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Seriously? There has been a long lull in major hurricanes for at least a decade which has directly contradicted the prophecies of the global warming cultist priests made 20 years ago. Yet more proof of a yet another false apocalyptic end of the world cult.
AGW denialists only count the ones hitting the US, and even then, they know hurricanes are caused by gay marriage.
Re:Global warming (Score:5, Interesting)
Though I believe the evidence of for global warming, this hurricane is not a part of it. Claims such as yours belong with those which claim that people not flying off into space is proof that the world is flat.
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Though I believe the evidence of for global warming, this hurricane is not a part of it. Claims such as yours belong with those which claim that people not flying off into space is proof that the world is flat.
It's pretty difficult to claim that any one day's weather is the result of the 800 terawatts of radiative forcing that humans have pumped into the air. You simply have to look at trends.
As well, a lot of people forget the "global" part of AGW. It's the sort of thing that causes deniers to bray "So much for global warming!" As well, there are some folks who declare every hot day or weather related disaster on AGW.
Both are irrelevant to the truth of the matter.
Given that hurricanes and tornadoes and
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The problem for the denialists is that they have to come up with a proveable hypothesis of how the greenhouse effect fails on a global scale.
And why is that a problem for the "denialists" and not for the people actually making the extraordinary claims without the extraordinary evidence?
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The problem for the denialists is that they have to come up with a proveable hypothesis of how the greenhouse effect fails on a global scale.
And why is that a problem for the "denialists" and not for the people actually making the extraordinary claims without the extraordinary evidence?
1. There are some extremely basic laws of physics going on here. It's like denying Ohm's Law I make the claim that the laws of physics hold true. You do not. You need to prove they don't. DEspite your protesttions to the negative, the measurements hold up. So you have to prove how the measurements are either incorrect, or don't hold up using real science, not way outdated denials.
I point to the dat. You say it is wrong. You have th eextraordinary claim, you need to supply your proofs. And the proof isn'
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DEspite your protesttions to the negative, the measurements hold up.
Do you understand these measurements well enough for that "holding up" to be relevant? From what I recall of your posting in the past, the answer is "no".
Let me point out there is a huge gap between "basic laws of physics" and global warming is severe enough that we should consider it our only priority. I grant that there is global warming and that it is likely that most of it is human caused. That doesn't mean that I agree that we should do something about it. There is a remarkable inability of the clim
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Let me point out there is a huge gap between "basic laws of physics" and global warming is severe enough that we should consider it our only priority.
Let me point out that I never said it should be our top priority.
I'm pretty certain that the roller coaster ride has been set in motion, the amount of CO2 we've re-released will be there for a while. So while it behooves us to cut back on the amount we continue to release, as well as engage cleaner technologies, if for no other reason than the coal and oil ain't gonna last forever - the ride's been set in motion.
My concerns at the moment, are that the rapid release of methane we've been experiencing la
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I'm pretty certain that the roller coaster ride has been set in motion, the amount of CO2 we've re-released will be there for a while. So while it behooves us to cut back on the amount we continue to release, as well as engage cleaner technologies, if for no other reason than the coal and oil ain't gonna last forever - the ride's been set in motion.
We're all also going to die. I guess we better kill ourselves off now, the ride's been set in motion after all.
My concerns at the moment, are that the rapid release of methane we've been experiencing lately are a wild card that wasn't mentioned nearly enough in the past several decades. While methane doesn't last as long in the atmosphere, it is much more powerful an energy retention substance then CO2.
What rapid release of methane? They've been measuring methane concentrations in atmosphere. While they are increasing, it's not a rapid release.
But even then, we're going to witness whatever we've put in motion without being able to do much about it.
Incorrect. We can still create a sophisticated, technologically advanced, global civilization capable of handling whatever climate change throws at us. That incidentally is the default, "no action" choice right there.
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I'm pretty certain that the roller coaster ride has been set in motion, the amount of CO2 we've re-released will be there for a while. So while it behooves us to cut back on the amount we continue to release, as well as engage cleaner technologies, if for no other reason than the coal and oil ain't gonna last forever - the ride's been set in motion.
We're all also going to die. I guess we better kill ourselves off now, the ride's been set in motion after all.
You just look for shit to make smartass comments about? Or are you intellectually challenged, in which case I pologize because my mamma taught me to not pick pn retarded people.
Since it is not possible for you to comprehend what I wrote, it is this. Whatever is going to happen, is going to happen, and we are going to have to live with whatever happens. Shit happens. Go troll someone else, you bore me, kid.
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You just look for shit to make smartass comments about? Or are you intellectually challenged, in which case I pologize because my mamma taught me to not pick pn retarded people.
No, I'm making a point which should be obvious. Just because something is inevitable doesn't mean it is a good idea to rush it. This again goes back to my observation that we have other priorities than just mitigating global warming. You say you agree, but where is that in your reasoning?
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Yes, hurricanes never happened before evil humans got in their cars and started using electricity. Never. Not once. No hurricane has ever happened until now.
What a bizzare statement. The nature of a complex atmospheric system like the one on earth inherently leads to energy imbalances. So storms are just the way these imbalances try to even out
Clearly the only solution to this is for all of humanity to die.
Nooo! You are wrong and silly, but we need you around as long as possible, if just to have someone to laugh at. Live long and prosper, and buy mountain land.
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If you have evidence that hurricane frequency or landfall is increasing, please share it with NOAA, for they have none.
If your argument is that the intensity is somehow increasing, kindly share that data also.
For like most of the Global Warming/Climate Change crew, you have no real data. All you have is manipulated or fabricated, and allegations based on what you would rather believe.
Bring it on.
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If you have evidence that hurricane frequency or landfall is increasing, please share it with NOAA, for they have none.
If your argument is that the intensity is somehow increasing, kindly share that data also.
For like most of the Global Warming/Climate Change crew, you have no real data. All you have is manipulated or fabricated, and allegations based on what you would rather believe.
Bring it on.
Challenge accepted.
First, although altogether too many slashdot users claim strawmen when there was none, your claiming that AGW advocates are claiming that this hurricane is the result of global warming is a complete and total strawman. There are some assholes who might claim that, just the same as there are assholes who claim that the world was entering a new ice age back in the mid 1970's, but those are whacky outliers.
Hurricanes are a natural phenomenon, and fueled by temperature gradients (read en
Re: Global warming (Score:2)
Somehow I missed your data.
All else is indeed interesting discussion is analysis, without any hard analysis.
And I cannot tell the a*holes from the sincere apologists.
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Somehow I missed your data.
All else is indeed interesting discussion is analysis, without any hard analysis.
And I cannot tell the a*holes from the sincere apologists.
Which specific data do you want?
And should I [present it in as concise a form as you have? Either answer the question, or decline the challenge.
SO far, you have said:
For like most of the Global Warming/Climate Change crew, you have no real data. All you have is manipulated or fabricated, and allegations based on what you would rather believe.
Where do you want me to begin? The beginning with the retention of energy by substance? That the Coriois effect is th eprime mixer of atmospheric energy? I can go to elementary physics if you care, but you need to give me a level you want to operate at. Or you could at least say which exact data was manipulated. But I've discussed with
Re: Global warming (Score:2)
First, the temperature records are adjusted to somehow account for errors or influences. This leaves me suspicious.
Then the siting of recording stations in the US seems to risk both urban heat island effects as well as a bias to urban locations, both as sprawl engulfed older stations, and as rural stations have fallen into disrepair or been lost.
But the intentional manipulation of data, especially satellite data, leaves me questioning results.
If you're as aware as you seem to claim, you know what I'm refer
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First, the temperature records are adjusted to somehow account for errors or influences. This leaves me suspicious.
I asked for data.You have none.
Re: Global warming (Score:2)
first, this [wattsupwiththat.com]
This cartoon predicted your posting. (Score:2)
With storms like Matthew happening now, it's truly remarkable to me that anyone can deny that global warming is occurring and that humans are causing it.
Looks to me like, though Global Warming / Climate Change disaster theory has not done a very good job at predicting weather problems, this editorial cartoon [drroyspencer.com] was dead-on at predictimg your posting.
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With storms like Matthew happening now, it's truly remarkable to me that anyone can deny that global warming is occurring and that humans are causing it.
Looks to me like, though Global Warming / Climate Change disaster theory has not done a very good job at predicting weather problems, this editorial cartoon [drroyspencer.com] was dead-on at predictimg your posting.
As a person who has great confidence that AGW exists, the same as I have confidence in the speed of light, or any other scientific law, the existence of Hurricane Andrew has nothing to do with AGW.
Satellite Image of the Hurricane (Score:5, Informative)
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For those who haven't had their morning coffee yet: The hurricane does not go east. The satellite is called "Geostationary Operational Environmental Satellite East" or short GOES East.
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Re: HurrCon 1 status (Score:1)
What hills? Our highest elavation is 19 feet above sea level.
Re: Matthew is a dud (Score:3, Insightful)
That's because the eye and eyewalls of Matthew has stayed offshore. The outer eyewall will probably touch Cape Canaveral and it may actually make landfall in northern Florida, which will result in far worse conditions for those areas. The concentric eyewalls and the large outer eyewall help to keep the winds down a bit. The pressure isn't that low for a major hurricane, so any broadening of the low pressure will bring down the winds. I suspect that 120 mph may be a bit generous for the winds based on the da
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Also (Score:5, Informative)
On a related note, 300 people died in Haiti.
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Not sure about your numbers, but you can rest assured that once the danger to US citizens pass all sorts of aid will be sent to Haiti.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-... [bbc.com]
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In the meantime, it would be decent to at least mention them.
10% of 9/11 victims, this deserves at least 2 years of bombing another country in the Middle East.
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Haiti, and Bermuda, were both headline news here in the US. As for Middle East countries, we have admittedly not taken care of the true home of the culprits behind the attacks.
I'm in Central Florida on the E. Coast (Score:1, Informative)
And this storm has really been a whole lot of nothing (obviously I still have my power).
Re: I'm in Central Florida on the E. Coast (Score:1)
Biggest power outages so far are far inland. The coastal areas seem well prepared. Google Duke energy outage map for florida.
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As a Matthew, (Score:5, Funny)
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How about: "Matthew blows the east coast"
Movie premise (Score:2)
This would make for an interesting thriller movie premise. There's a murderer among the ride-out team picking off the other members one by one.