Microsoft Is Redesigning the Paint App For Windows 10 (theverge.com) 118
Microsoft is redesigning the Paint app with Windows 10 in mind. As mentioned in the leaked video posted by Twitter user WalkingCat, the "ability to create in 3D" is one of the biggest new features in the works. The Verge reports: A launch video notes that the new "Paint Preview" app includes all the familiar features of the regular version of Paint, but Microsoft is adding in 3D object support. Paint Preview users will be able to create 3D objects, and annotate them freely. Microsoft has a range of markers and art tools to help artists create objects, and brushes that can be used directly on 3D objects. All of the tools appear to be pen- and touch-friendly, with an interface that mixes 3D models, 2D images, stickers, and community tools for 3D content. Microsoft appears to be testing early "alpha" versions of the Paint app, and the videos indicate it could be ready to be released publicly soon. The timing of the Paint videos come just hours after Microsoft revealed it's planning to hold a special event in New York City later this month. Microsoft is widely expected to unveil a new Surface device at the event, with rumors suggesting it will be an all-in-one desktop PC.
But (Score:5, Funny)
If they make Paint better then I can't blame my bad drawings on my refusal to buy or download a decent program.
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Layers > 3D content
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And they will probably drop support for my most common use of MS Paint; saving a window screen print to a jpeg to document errors in the OS.
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Hand an artist a pencil and he'll do amazing things. I have a friend that can do a fantastic touch screen drawing in less than a minute just to send a Snapchat joke. Sure using MS Paint instead of Photoshop would be like running with a lead vest, but I don't think you're fooling anyone by blaming the tools. It'd be like blaming poor code on the lack of an IDE, would anyone here buy that? No. Unless you're talking to a PHB, in which case you can blame whatever you want.
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...so even a child can use paint app.
But that still makes it too difficult for Marketing.
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Photoshop version history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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16 bit support and layers with a nice GUI? Photoshop version history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
That is nice but you do know that you have to pay for the product unless you are the type of person who likes to have that jolly green parrot on their shoulders. Me I will stick to The GIMP [wikipedia.org] since I don't have to worry about a parrot doing it's business on my shoulders.
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Krita takes a step forward, but it still has stupid details that annoy the crap out of me, like you know, PRINTING? Krita's excuse for this is, I quote, "We also removed the print and print preview options; printing in Krita has never worked well, and after porting to Qt5 broke completely.". Yeah, that makes PERFECT SENSE! Then trying to put text into an image, what FUN!
So guess what I do? Vmware and Photoshop, because image editing o
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Why can't someone port paint.net which is open source and MIT licensed to mono?
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Microsoft, just use the Gimp and be done with it. (Score:2)
You could add a bit of new-user wizard polish, but otherwise, why are you bothering?
Paint is a joke (Score:1)
Use "Paint.net" instead. Microsoft made the most pathetic and basic paint program possible when they had the programmers available to make photoshop-league art tools. If they thought paint was an expectable tool to ship then frankly, I don't want to hear about any so-called improvements that they're going to make on it.
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When people buy an appliance rather than a computer, they get what they get.
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Paint, Notepad, cmd.exe. Super basic tools on Windows have always been pathetic, because Windows is not meant to be productive right out of the box.
Often those programs are pathetic because their source code or big pieces of them are used as examples. I don't know if that ever happened to MS Paint. But you don't want to throw effort at them in that case.
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Considering that cmd.exe is technically depreciated and is meant to be a "last line" when everything else breaks, that doesn't really make much sense does it. The world moved on from command.com in the early 00's when 16bit went bye-bye from modern OS's.
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16 bits ought to be enough for everybody.
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16 bits ought to be enough for everybody.
That moment when you remember that 16 kB expander cartridges were a thing.
Re: Paint is a joke (Score:2)
Hey I know this is slashdot where using old win32 tech and bashing ms is cool, but PowerShell is a worthy and modern CLI.
In many ways nicer than bash as it's object oriented and digs into azure, VMware esx, and wmi.
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You know, if Microsoft was specifically selling MSPaint as an image editor, then you would have a point. But it is a basic tool to perform basic tasks from the people who made the operating system. If you want advanced features, then you go and buy something like Photoshop from the guys who make a living making an image editor.
Better replacement already available (Score:4, Insightful)
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That's a replacement for the old Paint. It doesn't do what the new Paint can do.
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That's a replacement for the old Paint. It doesn't do what the new Paint can do.
The new Paint is a new thing and shouldn't be called Paint. Paint.NET is the clear successor to Paint.
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They should bring out Paint Classic.
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Unix port?
It is open source and part of it was able to compile in Mono under Linux. What happened? Slashdotters would take it more seriously if they could run it on Linux. I wonder if it uses some proprietary .NET SDK that is not in Mono.
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There is Pinta, which aspires to be a unofficial port of paint.net. But it is slow coming, and many features aren't present that are in paint.net. But it's WAY better than almost anything else, aside from Gimp (but it's way easier to pick up and use).
Wow (Score:1)
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They could have changed it 10 years ago and nobody would have noticed.
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I see what you did there!
Some people noticed. Things like png support and proper resizing have made it a vastly more useful quick tool post-XP.
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You jest, but what is needed in all computers when you first unbox them to make them useful?
Steam + Office + some kind of image editor.
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Without an image editor, how do you make icons for the graphical application that you make in the development environment?
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SCREEN 7
FOR y = 1 TO 16
FOR x = 1 TO 16
READ z
PSET (x, y), z
NEXT
NEXT
And a whole bunch of DATA commands?
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say most people are not developers.
Re: You are out of paint buckets... (Score:1)
I guess they don't have any thing better to do (Score:5, Insightful)
Not like there's a billion other things that 10 needs fixed.
The GUI is a confusing cluster fuck.
Windows "Apps" are a joke, and need to be killed.
Windows Update continues to be horribly broken.
20+ years of bloat keeps stacking up higher and higher.
But M$ decides they need to reinvent the wheel..er paint. Genius idea there!
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In corporations of Microsoft scale, nothing new is done by one or two people. First there will be a three layer management staff with their assistants and yes-men and each manager will get at least seven underlings. After two years of re-inventing the wheel and countless useless UX experiments the corporation will lay off the staff and buy a horribly expensive startup company that has powerpoint slides of a similar software. After company merger, they will lay off the staff from startup and start from phas
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So you're trying to tell me that it had any engineers work on that piece of software?
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That would still be one or two more engineers than quality assurance of Windows updates.
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Whereas I'm sure there are 500 designers involved in the "flat UI" look, doing everything in their power to make Windows 10 look like Windows 2.
Re: I guess they don't have any thing better to do (Score:1)
You do realize this is not an iOS discussion right?
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Unpopular opinion, but I haven't any issues with the GUI. Is bashing W10 still the cool thing around here?
The Windows 10 GUI is fine although IMHO not as nice or as customisable as my KDE desktop. What I don't like, are all the so called privacy features that are "on" by default unless you do something about them and even then are you really sure you have locked down Windows 10 especially after the latest mandatory update?
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Shut the FUCK up, Lennart.
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That's quite interesting since what you're talking about is either not broken or by design.
The GUI is a confusing cluster fuck.
The only problem is the jarring differences between the settings and control panel. The rest of the GUI is pretty much windows 7 with some weird tiles no one uses in the start menu.
Windows "Apps" are a joke, and need to be killed.
... agreed.
Windows Update continues to be horribly broken.
I assume you mean the inability to control it. This is by design. Throwing resources at a system that is broken by a policy decision won't do anything because effectively Windows Update is finished according to what they want. Th
Reminds me of a classic forum thread (Score:3)
Lightwave vs Notepad: http://web.archive.org/web/200... [archive.org]
This was back after XP came out and Notepad was starting to experience some feature creep in XP Notepad, like the view menu or the ability to edit unicode files. I don't think anyone expected one of the classic windows apps like mspaint to actually get 3d support.
How is it possible (Score:1)
How is it possible that one of the biggest software companies in the world makes such a useless app like paint always was.
At Last (Score:1)
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Now imagine a Microsoft version of GIMP...
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Does GIMP remain horrible after having turned on Windows > Single Window Mode? If so, what's the most horrible thing about it?
Thanks! (Score:2)
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Don't forget the zero-day exploits. That's still a thing with Windows, isn't it?
The important question (Score:2)
Why would I want to touch the screen of my Windows computer with a pen/stylus? I prefer my hands not getting killed with pain, thank you.
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No-one's forcing you to.
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Why would I attach a mouse to my tablet when I have a perfectly good stylus to take notes with? I prefer my text to be legible, thank you.
Surface and Paint (Score:3)
Re:Surface and Paint (Score:4, Informative)
Which is interesting given they ship a surface specific program already.
Just as you thought ... (Score:2)
... the UI couldn't get any more unusable for the occasional bits of minor work most people ever actually fire paint up for instead of getting hold of something better.
Killer App (Score:2)
Typical Corporate Misstep (Score:2)
Humans in large groups make terrible decisions because they are both risk-averse and prone to follow pleasant illusions.
Paint does not need a redesign; it needs fixes to the broken parts of its interface, and basic capabilities like smart select and layers.
Microsoft should also realize that people like it, much like Notepad, because it is a light app. Users love things that are simple, work right the first time, and are always fast because they are not bloated.
In fact, the best advice anyone could give Micr
Where do I sign up? (Score:2)
Downloading it now! Because it was nothing but the poor quality of the paint app that was keeping myself and billions of others away from Win 10.
Windows 10? (Score:1)
What does "for Windows 10" even mean?