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Theresa May Loses Overall Majority In UK Parliament ( 493

Prime Minister Theresa May of Britain has lost her overall majority in Parliament on Thursday, plunging Britain into a period of renewed political chaos less than two weeks before it is scheduled to begin negotiations over withdrawing from the European Union. While May's Conservative party won the most seats, the party didn't win enough to govern without the support of minority parties. CNN reports: It was devastating result for May, who had called the election three years earlier than required by law, convinced by opinion polls that placed her far ahead of opposition Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn. The result also plunges Britain into a period of renewed political chaos, with Brexit talks likely to be delayed and May's personal authority shredded. There was already talk in Conservative circles that she might have to resign, less than a year after taking over from David Cameron, who resigned following the Brexit referendum. The pound fell on currency markets in the wake of the results. After the result was declared in her constituency of Maidenhead, May gave a faltering speech. "At this time more than anything else, this country needs a period of stability," she said, suggesting she would attempt to form a government even if her party loses its majority. Corbyn said the early results showed May had lost her mandate and called for her to resign. Further reading: New York Times
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  • Bye Theresa (Score:5, Insightful)

    by bestweasel ( 773758 ) on Friday June 09, 2017 @02:20AM (#54582867)

    Weak and wobbly.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      Screw you, May! Your cheapass manipulations of the voting public didn't work.

      I still don't get why people are still in a huff with the lib dems though.

      • Re:Bye Theresa (Score:5, Informative)

        by locofungus ( 179280 ) on Friday June 09, 2017 @03:16AM (#54583065)

        I still don't get why people are still in a huff with the lib dems though.

        Because they betrayed their core support. They promised an end to tuition fees and then ditched it to get 15 minutes of fame.

        They'd have done the same on their demand for a second Europe referendum if they'd held 30 or so now labour seats (and claim that they at least could influence the brexit negotiations)

        • by dave420 ( 699308 )

          You seem to be claiming to see into the future. That can't be right...

        • Re:Bye Theresa (Score:5, Interesting)

          by coastwalker ( 307620 ) <[moc.liamtoh] [ta] [reklawtsaoca]> on Friday June 09, 2017 @04:57AM (#54583439) Homepage

          Actually most Lib Dems voted Labour for this election because it was more important to stop the right wing conservatives "hard brexit" and austerity. Also the current Lib Dem leader is not very appealing as a person being a bit of a religious fanatic in a party that does not believe religion should be in politics. The tuition fees thing is something they had no choice about as the cost of what they were able to achieve as part of the last coalition.

          • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

            Even Tim Farron was telling people to vote tactically. I guess he figured it would help the Lib Dems as much as anyone else.

          • Re:Bye Theresa (Score:5, Interesting)

            by vittal ( 52825 ) on Friday June 09, 2017 @09:18AM (#54584389) Homepage

            The irony of course is that the DUP (who the Tories will tempt into bed with them) have a long history of religious lunacy that makes Tim Farron (Lib Dem leader) look like Richard Dawkins in comparison.

            They have recent history of appointing young earth creationists, being vehemently anti-gay and climate change deniers (why worry when God'll sort it out).

            Ho-hum :(

        • And that's why their supporters are idiots.

          Labor gave us fees and barely stood in the way of brexit
          The Tories gave us huge fees and brexit
          The lib dems didn't stand in the way of fees and did stand against brexit

          But apparently they're the worst?

          No party ever sticks to all it's promises because reality. The lib dems were a small part of a coalition. This continual hate is just barking mad especially given the competition.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      Is is between a weak and a wobbly place now.

      If she stays, she is too weak to be effective and forever tainted. Won't be an effective leader, and her own party will be forever trying to force her out. The DUP might not want to be associated with her failure.

      If she goes, there will need to be a leadership contest and it is unlikely that the Tories could form a government. The DUP would need to support them, and that will be a hard sell if it isn't known who the leader is.

      The Tories are pretty slippery though,

      • And whoever replaces her faces the same lack of credibility - not having won a General Election as party leader.

        • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

          Good point, although it doesn't seem to stop politicians. Whoever takes over will also be taking on the poison chalice...

          I didn't think May would survive Brexit, but I really didn't expect her end to come by her own hand.

      • Nobody in their right mind would want to tango with her now. It's like begging to be dragged down into the abyss with her.

      • by DrXym ( 126579 )
        Not necessarily. A couple of years ago Ireland was in the same place. The government called an election, the leader (Enda Kenny) made some serious gaffs and they failed to get a majority. Instead of resigning he stayed on, they formed a coalition / minority government and it's still operating.

        Kenny has only recently resigned as party leader and Taoseach (PM), so it might only be a temporary stay of execution. But May could dig in, form a coalition, or a memorandum of understanding and still lead at least

    • by Anonymous Coward


      • I think she looks miserable. Maybe just take her back behind the house and put her out of her misery, she's just torturing herself.

        And, more importantly, us.

    • Don't rejoice yet. The Tories are still the largest party and judging by her (lack of) character she sees this as an endorsement of her politics.

    • by Z80a ( 971949 )

      Given the plans of both sides, the less they can actually do something the better.

  • What happened next? (Score:5, Informative)

    by StickyKeys ( 2825659 ) on Friday June 09, 2017 @02:39AM (#54582927)
    SNP and Lib Dems have already said they're not going to form a coalition government which means the only option left is for Conservative to form a minority government which would effectively means the government loses its authority to pass laws without support from other parties which would be a disaster when managing Brexit given how divided the nation is on the topic.
    • by serviscope_minor ( 664417 ) on Friday June 09, 2017 @03:04AM (#54583011) Journal

      effectively means the government loses its authority to pass laws without support from other parties which

      Yep which means they can't just plough ahead with their regularly scheduled strategy of hating everyone. I mean christ, cross party support! That's just awful, they'll have to consider what people in non Tory seats want. In other words they are going to have to learn to run the country for the voters not the tory party.

      which would be a disaster when managing Brexit given how divided the nation is on the topic.

      Whereas having one party simply riide roughshod over about half the population is a fine idea.

      The Tories have proven they are not grown up enough to run the country. First by holding the referendum in the first place, then the farcical leadership contest and finally the election. No way in hell I want them to have yet another crack at fucking things up.

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        Tory back benchers have a lot to answer for. Screwed up Major's government over Europe, forced Cameron into that disastrous, career-ending referendum and have now done the same to May. Not to mention the effect on the country.

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          I think the buck clearly stops with May herself this time. This was a shameless attempt at an opportunistic power grab by a PM no-one voted for. It was presented deceptively as a matter of strengthening her hand in the Brexit negotiations, yet the Tory manifesto sneaked in numerous "nasty party" policy changes relative to the previous one, some of which were barely even picked up by the media before the election. And of course the Tory campaign was all about her.

          I wonder how long she'll last running a minor

    • It's all a May (the PM) plot to trigger a hard brexit.

      Trigger article 50. Wait a bit.

      Call an election - May says cannot negotiate until after the election.

      TM waits for a bit and only when it's obvious she cannot govern the Tory party, let alone the country (or possibly at 10am BST today)...

      Call another tory leadership context - cannot negotiate until after the new prime minister is selected

      Boris fails to negotiate for a couple of months. Then calls an election for a couple of months hence - says cannot nego

      • by dbIII ( 701233 ) on Friday June 09, 2017 @03:26AM (#54583103)
        Nice little theory, but a far far simpler one is that May got greedy when the opinion polls made it look like she could vastly increase her majority by calling an election early. Boring slimy politics as usual.
        • Oh, I agree that May expected a better majority. But that doesn't mean that she was going to be able to govern her own party. She called this election because she couldn't manage the party and hoped that with a few more Tory MPs she might have enough support of her own party to utter more tautologies: "brexit means brexit", "enough is enough".

          When the election was called I expected her to get a bigger majority and it to be six months of failed negotiations and backstabbing from her backbenchers before she w

          • by dbIII ( 701233 )
            Fair enough, but I have difficulty in seeing anything near the planning ability required for such a plan anywhere near them.
            "The Thick of It" with a string of fuckups over trivia was starting to look a lot like a documentary.
      • by 3247 ( 161794 )

        This game is called passing the hot potato.

        Music stops 2019-03-29. Whoever holds the office of PM on that day loses.

    • SNP and Lib Dems have already said they're not going to form a coalition government which means the only option left is for Conservative to form a minority government

      The likeliest outcome is a coalition with the DUP [] (ten seats), which will seek a "seamless and frictionless" Irish border. That will get the Conservatives a slim majority.

    • by GeekWithAKnife ( 2717871 ) on Friday June 09, 2017 @03:16AM (#54583063)

      48% do NOT want Brexit. the other 52% want Brexit but cannot agree on how and what sort of Brexit they want.

      This is the crap the UK gets without a plan, without a vision and without agreement.
    • Democratic Unionist Party already gave sign they would work with conservative to form a majority - for a "price". So no it does not mean no law will be passed or the gov lose its authority. As for brexit, havign no clear majority means the parties will ahve to negociate. Much better for democracy than May which thought she had a mandate to ram UK citizen whatever she wanted.
    • Conservatives plus DUP will have a working majority for most things. DUP will want some kickbacks.

      But I think DUP is soft brexit (or no brexit) so for the single most important issue facing the UK the prime minister won't be able to play the "no deal" card (hence my other post about the Tories trying to play out the clock to get a hard brexit)

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      What about the option for Labour to form a minority government? That seems more workable, with Corbyn being someone who can find common ground and bring people together. In fact, just having a clear idea of who the leader will be is a big advantage - the Tories can't say if it will be May or if there will be a leadership contest.

      • Absolutely no chance.

        Apart from the fact that Tory+DUP have 326 seats now which three seats still to declare.

        Even if DUP refuses to support Tory, they'd never support Lab either so Labs best chance would be to win a no confidence vote and trigger yet another election (but that might not do what they want if their support is pro-europe and they see it as yet more delaying with no sight of anything other than a hard brexit looming)

        • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

          If the DUP doesn't support the Tories then all they can do is obstruct the entire parliament, which won't look good for them either. Plus, maybe Sinn Fein can be convinced to support the progressive alliance if it means they get a border poll a few years down the line.

          The DUP might support the Tories, but they want a soft Brexit with single market access and a soft border so something drastic will have to be worked out. Hopefully they won't fall for the same bullshit that the Lib Dems did in 2010.

  • I'm just wondering if much of electorate that placed these people in power have gazed into the abyss of populism and seen that darkness ahead. I certainly hope so because there is still time to set things right in the world.

    • by lucm ( 889690 )

      Maybe UK people just vote "against" rather than "for" like they do in many parts of the world. Case in point, the USA.

      • I think that's very much the case in this election. My constituency - which would elect a sex-offender if you put a blue* rosette - normally has the Lib Dems as runners up with Labour in 3rd. This time it was Tory, Labour, LD (60%, 20%, 15%). For the first time I saw a good few "Vote Labour" posters in Windows in my town, so I think they played the "Vote Tactically" game well.

        * Blue = Tory, Red = Labour

    • by AHuxley ( 892839 )
      Re "populism and seen that darkness ahead"?
      An election was held, people voted, the count will see a conservative and DUP government.
      If another party presents some good ideas next election they might win.
      If a political party wants to win, find a politician who can win and get the full support of a political party.
      Voters usually like a good leader who can speak well and who has good ideas.
      If a party is split and a leader has issues they often don't win.
      • Voters usually like a good leader who can speak well and who has good ideas.

        That's true but they prefer charismatic figures that validate their biases.

  • by Malc ( 1751 ) on Friday June 09, 2017 @02:46AM (#54582949)

    ... be bothered to participate in the multi-party televised election debates. In the debate the Tories did turn up, she sent the Home Secretary, whose father had died days beforehand.

    Weak leadership.

    • by Chrisq ( 894406 ) on Friday June 09, 2017 @06:35AM (#54583695)

      ... be bothered to participate in the multi-party televised election debates. In the debate the Tories did turn up, she sent the Home Secretary, whose father had died days beforehand.

      Weak leadership.

      What's worse is that having been the one who called the election in the first place she gave the excuse that "there wasn't time for her to participate with the election because of the brexit business". She only just fell short of saying "What idiot called an election at this time?".

  • by dasunt ( 249686 ) on Friday June 09, 2017 @02:50AM (#54582959)

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

    Tories have played stupid games in the last two elections they called for. They've won stupid prizes as a result.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Didn't we just have an article where Theresa May vowed to "tear up" human rights to combat terrorism?

    Hung government notwithstanding, getting rid of her is a good thing, right?

    • by dgatwood ( 11270 )

      That was precisely my first thought when I saw this story. Apparently the UK does value human rights after all.

  • by Portal1 ( 223010 ) on Friday June 09, 2017 @04:11AM (#54583245) Homepage Journal

    If the SNP would agree to form a coalition with the conservatives, on the single condition that they can leave the UK and stay in the EU, they can get their independence.
    It will give the British and Welsh people what they voted for, and I think soon will regret.
    And it will not be their problem anymore.

    The Scots voted in 2014 only to stay in the UK, because leaving the UK would have meant leaving the EU.
    And in 2016 they voted mainly to remain, as they did not want to leave the EU.

  • Well... (Score:4, Funny)

    by notequinoxe ( 2668889 ) on Friday June 09, 2017 @05:57AM (#54583595)
    May's gone, it's June now.. Awww yeaaaa!
  • Said it before (Score:5, Interesting)

    by BlueCoder ( 223005 ) on Friday June 09, 2017 @05:58AM (#54583599)

    Brexit isn't a foregone conclusion. It's also two years of negotiations. There should also be negotiations to stay. At the end of the negotiations there should be another referendum or maybe even two or three until there is a significant majority.

    Chief among issues is immigration. Call it racist all you want but a country does not feel like a country if it can't control it's own borders. Furthermore the richer nations really do need to contribute more for the border protection in the eastern nations.

    There is also opportunity to change the current way the EU does business (high handed) specifically in it's regulations and how nations might choose to opt out. The way I see it "most" regulations should take 10 or more years or say three elections so that opposition can be organized to reverse course.

    Furthermore banking needs to change. Stop the bailouts that make certain people rich. Just declare bankruptcy already and get good people into Greece and Italy to rebuild something sane. Bankruptcy should always be on the table and almost automatic to insure that the people investing money are doing so on sound business principles rather than just a promise from the EU to guarantee their money.

    • Re:Said it before (Score:5, Insightful)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) <> on Friday June 09, 2017 @07:40AM (#54583911) Homepage Journal

      The EU needs fewer opt-outs, not more. The whole point of the single market, which is essential for truly free trade, is that no member state has an unfair advantage. The only reason people ever want opt-outs is to get an advantage.

      That's why the UK is doomed in the Brexit negotiations. The UK seems to think that it can get some kind of special deal where it gives its industries huge advantages over the EU, but clearly the EU is never going to accept that and will offset the advantage with tariffs.

  • by Going_Digital ( 1485615 ) on Friday June 09, 2017 @08:37AM (#54584135)
    When she announced that the conservatives would take the value of peoples homes into account when assessing funding for home care she lost a big chunk of their core supporters. The majority of Conservative voters are middle aged, middle class homeowners. They feel that by buying their home they have been responsible and had to cut back on spending for discretionary items to pay for it. They feel it grossly unfair that people who have lived the high life and spent all their money on holidays and recreation get free care where as they get their home taken from them. She gambled that she could push this through because people would still vote conservative because they had no confidence in the labour opposition. But that gamble didn't pay off, people turned to the opposition.
  • by TheSync ( 5291 ) on Friday June 09, 2017 @10:46AM (#54584917) Journal

    Mark my words, Brexit will eventually be walked back...EU will be OK with that.

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