Ubuntu Is Now Available On the Windows Store (windowscentral.com) 121
Ubuntu is now available for download on the Windows Store. "Initially spotted by Rafael Rivera and Necrosoft Core on Twitter, Ubuntu on the Windows Store will let you install and run the Ubuntu terminal on Windows next to your other apps," reports Windows Central. From the report: Ubuntu's arrival, and that of SUSE, are part of a recent push by Microsoft to embrace Linux and the open source community more broadly. This began with the arrival of the Windows Subsystem for Linux in 2016, allowing users to use the Bash shell from within Windows. Keep in mind that this is limited to the Fall Creators Update, which isn't set for a public release until later this year. If you're running a PC testing the Fall Creators Update through the Windows Insider Program, however, you should be able to download and try Ubuntu from the Windows Store just fine.
Support Open Source (Score:4, Insightful)
Then Microsoft needs to release MinWin [wikipedia.org].
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Choosing to support Open Source is not the same as using a Free Software license. And by "support" I did not mean "legally required to release source", if I did I wouldn't have used the word support. (the press release used the word support)
There are already OSI approved licenses from Microsoft such as Ms-PL [opensource.org] and Ms-RL [opensource.org]. With the Ms-RL (Reciprocal License) being like GPL in that it is a Free Software license, but unfortunately incompatible with GPL according to GNU [gnu.org]
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I think you should update your 15 Year old distro release.
whatever (Score:5, Insightful)
Ubuntu in the Windows store ?
Whatever.
Get the original.
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Windows Service for Linux. (Score:3)
So run Windows in a VM under Ubuntu which is itself a VM under Windows, since the Microsoft Store doesn't replace Windows or even create a separate partition, but just runs Ubuntu in a VM.
No. That's not possible, that's not how Windows Service for Linux (WSL) works.
(And that's why, as other have pointed, the link points to the official Ubuntu website to get a full blown real-deal Ubuntu Linux).
WSL isn't a virtual machine.
It a different "personnality" of the Windows Kernal, where it speaks a different API than the usual Win32.
(the capability dates backs from the earilest WinNT, used to run OS/2 software natively).
WSL enables the Windows kernel to expose a tiny subset of the APIs exposed by th
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Where is the part where you disable Ubuntu spyware?
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>> Step 3: (Run VirtualBox and) boot your Windows partition inside VirtualBox.
Why ?
That step is not necessary, just skip it. it's a plain and full waste of time.
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I don't want to Wine... but I want to run Microsoft Office !!!11one ;)
Ubuntu or bash? (Score:2)
What exactly does this mean? That if I download Ubuntu, I'll have Unity or whatever DE I want, and can download the Steam player and play Steam games on it? Or does it just mean that I can now run a bash shell? I thought that I could do that from PowerShell by just typing 'bash' at the command prompt. So if it's the latter, in what way is it different?
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No, its basically just bash and command line utils. Theres still quite a few features that dont work right. Hell, ping would only work for a current administrator up until a couple of months ago.
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That's fine, valgrind hasn't worked on Mac OS X (err, sorry "macOS") for two major versions now. Apple doesn't love developers.
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Hell, ping would only work for a current administrator up until a couple of months ago.
Let me translate that: 'Ping does work.'
You know, trying to point out that something is bad by mentioning what didn't use to work in the past is kinda contra-productive. In the end you're only point out things that work right now.
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It means Linux subsystem for Windows has gone official. Until now, it's been a beta feature - you had to enable "developer" mode and install the Windows feat
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It is the original, minus linux.
Trojan Horse (Score:2)
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The only reason that a for-profit company would make overtures like this is if they thought that they had something to gain by doing so, using some business strategy that says that this will help them in the long run.
Like providing customers with features that they want? Yes I can certainly see how that would be advantageous.
They're not doing it for the sake of the open source community
Oh really? This isn't an act of charity? They are doing this for their customers because their customers want UNIX tools and features alongside the wide-ranging hardware and software support you get in Windows. No that combination isn't for everybody but a lot of people are going to be interested in it, if you aren't then that is ok. If you want an act of charity toward the open source community the
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LOL, just like they wanted to allow UNIX customers to have Windows applications when they licensed Win32 to MainSoft, Bristol and others. Sure and they didn't pull the rug out from under them later.
No this is the opposite of that.
Dream on, it's a trojan horse and customers who use it will eventually pay for that choice in the harshest way.
How is it a trojan horse? They are running Ubuntu inside Windows, are you saying Ubuntu is the trojan horse? If so what does that mean?
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Once people become entrenched: "We will no longer offer it through any channel but the Windows Store and the latest update disabled the "free" version. You can purchase the proprietary runtime support in the Windows store by just paying a $1200.00 fee."
Except, since the people are already using Linux programs at that point, they can just move to some Linux distribution if Microsoft ever did what you are saying.
Offering Linux on Windows reduces the dependency on Windows, as it allows users to take steps towards Linux.
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Re:Trojan Horse (Score:4, Insightful)
They're not attacking the Linux community with this. They're trying to put the final nail in OS X's coffin.
There was a time when OS X was the OS of choice for business developers. It was based on UNIX so it ran the UNIX toolchain, but it also ran the commercial software that IT required. It was either the choice of least resistance (since IT would support it) or the only choice (if IT forbid Linux entirely). This was before Apple went off the deep end and started iOS-ifying it and renamed it "macOS" and back when OS X hardware was actually cost-competitive if not outright superior to Windows hardware. (Yes, there was a time when you simply could not get a Windows PC as nice as a MacBook. Hasn't been true for years now, but it was true once.)
The one thing "macOS" still has going for it is the UNIX toolchain. If Microsoft can provide all the developer tools under Windows by offering a Linux layer, that last reason to keep using "macOS" goes away and there becomes no reason to bother with "macOS" instead of Windows. That's why they're doing it - to win back all the developers that left for Apple but are now sick and tired of Apple focusing only on the iPhone and ignoring everything else. Or, worse, taking iOS features and dumping them into their desktop OS.
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Good to have Windows... (Score:1)
I prefer Linux but don't want it to be the only OS out there. I'm glad there's Windows, OS X, FreeBSD, etc. out there. What would be ideal is more or less equal market share for all of them.
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Change the SecureBoot requirements so that it cannot be disabled on consumer computers. Revoke the SecureBoot certificate that allows (some) Linux distributions to boot with it enabled. Linux effectively extinguished in the consumer space. And Microsoft will say that's OK because now you can run your Linux programs under the gentle oversight of Windows, and whatever marketing data it is collecting.
Poor Ubuntu!!! (Score:1)
HERESY! (Score:2)
Purify this store!
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Yeah. Rename it "Ubuntu Store"
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Hell is Freezing Over (Score:2, Funny)
The Cubs have won a World Series, Donald Trump is President of the United States of America and Microsoft is embracing Linux. The end is near......
Expected year of the desktop first (Score:5, Funny)
I always expected to see the year of GNU/Linux on the desktop before seeing the year of it on Microsoft, but I'll take it.
Next, I'd love to see Richard Stallman having dinner with Bill Gates. I believe I have a vivid imagination, but I can't imagine how that dinner would go.
The annexation and subversion of Linux (Score:5, Insightful)
Why install messy and complicated 'linux' when you can get the look and feel within your nice, safe, compatible Windows computer? Silly Linux!
None of the power of Linux and none of the respect for your privacy. Sandboxing Linux under Windows instead of the other way around like it should be. Screw that.
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Also, the sky is falling.
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>> The annexation and subversion of Linux ...
Nope, Linux source is versionned on GIT, not Subversion
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"We're not being anticompetitive by 100% locking down the bootloader and not giving away the keys, look, you can run your choice of Linux once you've booted Windows!"
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Of course it's still Ubuntu. It's just not Linux. It's GNU/kWindows.
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sudo apt install wine
Under Debian and its derivatives, this command gets you a reimplemented runtime environment that can run many Windows applications.
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That'd be interesting, to be honest - running Win16/32 applications in Wine under WSL that no longer work natively on an x86-64 Windows 10 installation.
What about DOS CMD on Unix?? (Score:2)
I've been able to run Cygwin for decades. But I prefer to use a real scripting language. The Windows CMD language can do anything for people with grit and determination.
What the world needs is a good implementation of CMD that runs on Unix.
Windows Subsystem for Linux is 1 yr. old (Score:1)
This is kind of old news, as the WSL has been out since last summer. I spend about equal time in this environment as I do running an Ubuntu VM.
I am really curious about Linus and RMS's opinion of this environment. I haven't seen it mentioned in interviews yet. RMS might argue it's a GNU-only layer, since there's no actual Linux kernel code running (although it's ABI-compatible).
Yeah but does it run WINE? (Score:3)
Embrace... (Score:1)
...Extend, Extinguish.
Makes SSH into Linux boxes a breeze: No more PuTTY (Score:2)
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Except that putty is vastly superior to the windows command prompt.
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Re:Microsoft haters (Score:4, Interesting)
I hate Windows, and don't care for Ubuntu. But if I have to take a job working on Windows, you can bet I'll be looking at this carefully. Stands a good chance of being better than cygwin anyway.
Re:Microsoft haters (Score:4, Funny)
Stands a good chance of being better than cygwin anyway.
A spontaneous bout of diarrhea stands a good chance of being better than cygwin.
Accuracy, please (Score:4, Funny)
Stands a good chance of being better than cygwin anyway.
A spontaneous bout of diarrhea stands a good chance of being better than cygwin.
You mean: A spontaneous bout of diarrhea in a stalled elevator stands a good chance of being better than cygwin.
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Why would you do that when powershell is a thing?
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One of my proudest achievements was managing to get OpenRADIUS compiled under Cygwin (this was around 2003 or 2004), but what it did teach me is that while Cygwin was at the time the best available solution for running *nix software on Windows, it still sucked horribly. I installed Cygwin again a few years back and found that while some things had been cleaned up, all in all it was still a bloody awful kludge.
Re: Microsoft haters (Score:2)
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They're working on other distros:
https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.c... [microsoft.com]
It will even let you run different distros as the same time.
Re: Microsoft haters (Score:2, Insightful)
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It lets you run entire Ubuntu user space. Not sure if X11 runs though. But you can apt-get whatever and build and run CLI-based users pace software.
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X11 stuff works, but it's not "officially" supported.
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Better than cygwin (Score:2)
Stands a good chance of being better than cygwin anyway.
On some point, it is :
- Cygwin is an attempt for a user-space-level translation layer that provides nearly full POSIX software compatibility while running atop regular Windows.
Means it's constricted by whatever the win32 API has to offer.
e.g.: multi-threading and specially multi-process in windows suck, Cygwin-compiled unix apps will suck on windows.
- Ubuntu on windows (official name "Windows Service for Linux" - WSL) is using the "multiple-personnallity-disorder" of the Windows kernel.
Win32 is just *one* o
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Stands a good chance of being better than cygwin anyway.
But yet they've still managed to make it worse than cygwin. My main gripe is that IO is dog slow. Trying to do a "git pull" on a relatively large repo will just hang. I've never left it long enough to find out how long it would actually take.
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Sure it's not a stack?
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Where shall we queue, sir?