H1-B Administrators Are Challenging An Unusually Large Number of Applications (bloomberg.com) 304
Long-time Slashdot reader decaffeinated quotes Bloomberg: Starting this summer, employers began noticing that U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services was challenging an unusually large number of H-1B applications. Cases that would have sailed through the approval process in earlier years ground to a halt under requests for new paperwork. The number of challenges -- officially known as "requests for evidence" or RFEs -- are up 44 percent compared to last year, according to statistics from USCIS...
"We're entering a new era," said Emily Neumann, an immigration lawyer in Houston who has been practicing for 12 years. "There's a lot more questioning, it's very burdensome." She said in past years she's counted on 90 percent of her petitions being approved by Oct. 1 in years past. This year, only 20 percent of the applications have been processed. Neumann predicts she'll still have many unresolved cases by the time next year's lottery happens in April 2018.
"We're entering a new era," said Emily Neumann, an immigration lawyer in Houston who has been practicing for 12 years. "There's a lot more questioning, it's very burdensome." She said in past years she's counted on 90 percent of her petitions being approved by Oct. 1 in years past. This year, only 20 percent of the applications have been processed. Neumann predicts she'll still have many unresolved cases by the time next year's lottery happens in April 2018.
The H1B visa program is used as cheap labor. (Score:5, Insightful)
The H1B visa program is used intentionally as cheap labor to replace the American worker under the guise of 'we just can't find anyone skilled local'.
It's more about finding a worker who will work for 1/3rd the salary.
Re:The H1B visa program is used as cheap labor. (Score:5, Insightful)
Sadly, that is true. TFA is just people crying that they are actually being held to the stated intent and requirements of the H1-B program for the first time in well over a decade. Enforcement has been so lax that the people quoted in the story seem to have actually forgotten that being unable to find someone with the needed skills in the U.S. is a hard requirement for hiring an H1-B.
If the full quota isn't being handed out, perhaps it's because there is no actual shortage and so there aren't that many qualifying applications out there. Perhaps they should take a second look at the applicants who were over 40 years old or otherwise seemed like they might insist on only working the hours they were paid for that they threw in the round file. They could try actually offering pay on par with the industry. Perhaps they could offer a better work environment, easier hours, or telecommute if they can't afford higher pay. They could offer training or scholorship programs, co-op, etc. They could even consider (God forbid) not insisting on having their offices in the most expensive places in the country.
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Oh please, you expect us to believe that the TRUMP administration is able to follow the stated intent and requirements of ANY law whatsoever?
I made no comments on the president's motives, only that the program's requirements are finally being enforced and these people are crying about actually having to follow the law for a change.
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The H-1B visa program is yet another means for potential terrorists to enter the United States. Anything that reduces the number of H-1B Syrian refugees entering the United States reduces the number of potential terrorists. The H-1B program is a threat both to American jobs and to national security.
ORLY. What percentage of people who committed terrorist acts since, say 1990, have held H1-B visas at one time?
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Modded down. Whatever.
Either the moderators are poor at reading comprehension, or there really are people out there who think that the H-1B program is some kind of welcome-mat for terrorists.
One may argue that H-1B visa-holders displace American workers, but are they terrorists? I think not. H-1B visas are very hard to get. It's much easier to get a student visa, like the 9/11 hijackers did. And let's not forget that most of the people who have committed terrorist acts since 9/11 have had strong ties to the
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It certainly is used to fund terrorism. Most funds paid for H1Bs exit the country. Frequently to hostile countries.
Okay, that's just a load of crap.
Funds paid "for" H-1B visas are paid to the US government. They don't exit the country.
Funds paid "to" H-1B visa-holders are spent mostly within the USA, in the form of taxes and living expenses.
Most people here on H1B Visas are here illegally, per the terms required to allow their entry in the first place.
If that's true, then it's the fault of their sponsors, not the visa-holders.
Additionally, many studies have concluded that there has never been a lack of tech labor but simply a lack of companies willing to pay fair market wages. Which in turn has turned people away from what would otherwise be a well paid field.
I'd like to see some citations for those studies. In any case, there are a limited number of H-1B visas made available every year. It's not like all of the tech needs of the USA can be supplied with H-1B visa
Re:The H1B visa program is used as cheap labor. (Score:5, Informative)
Your idea leads to tariff wars where other countries implement your ideas.
It didn't end well [wikipedia.org].
Five years after the passage of the tariff, American trading partners had raised their own tariffs by a significant degree. France raised its tariffs on automobiles from 45% to 100%, Spain raised tariffs on American goods by 40%, and Germany and Italy raised tariffs on wheat. This customs war is often cited as one of the main causes of the Great Depression.
Boo farking hoo (Score:4, Insightful)
Oh no, they'll have to pay higher wages instead of using foreign labor! Won't somebody think of the corporate profits?
There are valid situations where there's nobody with that skill available in the US. That is not the case for 90% of H1-B visas.
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Oh no, they'll have to pay higher wages instead of using foreign labor!
That is one solution. Another is to hire the whole team overseas. If you can't move the workers to the jobs, then you move the jobs to the workers.
Restrictions on immigration have a poor track record for creating jobs and economic growth.
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Mixing all the races together just results in a race war.
I live in San Jose, which at less than 1/3 white, it is the "brownest" big city in America. It is also the big city with the lowest crime rate.
The Tower of Babble. That is the whole point of it all.
Children of Asian immigrants outperform native born whites on the English verbal section of the SAT.
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> I live in San Jose, which at less than 1/3 white, it is the "brownest" big city in America. It is also the big city with the lowest crime rate.
Clearly you never got the memo. Indians are white people when it comes to "social justice". They aren't "brown".
Re:Boo farking hoo (Score:4, Insightful)
Clearly you never got the memo. Indians are white people when it comes to "social justice". They aren't "brown".
They are whichever is most convenient at the moment.
Re: Boo farking hoo (Score:2)
I stayed in Chocolate town in Guangzhou for few weeks, locals were much better people than your average Chinese. Despite the popular notion, the chocolate town is the least criminal part of the city, not the most.
Re: Boo farking hoo (Score:2)
London is not anywhere near 60% Arab Muslim. The whole country is only 5% Muslims of all ethnicities including *gasp* white Europeans. Stop watching Alex Jones, he's a fucking moron.
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You're supposed to put sufficient tariffs on those companies to prevent that.
If you do this to only American companies, then jobs and investment will flow to non-American companies. This is already happening because of our extraterritorial tax laws. Punitive tariffs will turn a flow into a flood.
If you do it across the board, that will require America to withdraw from the WTO. Other countries will quickly retaliate with their own tariffs, and American workers will shift from designing iPhones to sewing blue jeans. Airbus will be delighted to see Boeing go bankrupt.
Protectionism
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Protectionism is not a new idea (it has been around for millennia), and it has never worked out well. You can't create prosperity by shutting out the rest of the world.
It's not a binary choice. You can be somewhere in between, limiting the amount of disruption to your industries to a rate at which they can adapt to while allowing the inflow of new ideas and cheaper products. Without any protectionist measures, you may be increasing the total wealth, but not necessarily prosperity, especially if the new wealth is all concentrated in the hands of the very few.
Since you currently live in China, you should know that China is a great example of limited protectionism, includ
Re:Boo farking hoo (Score:4)
Have YOU even spent any time overseas?
See my userID. I am in Shanghai right now, although I hope to return to California before Christmas.
Power outages?
My company has had an office in Shanghai since 2002. During those 15 years, we have had this many power outages: 0.
Engineers leaving work at 5pm sharp? (how dare they!) not unusual.
Well, Chinese people value family time, but how many tasks really really can't wait till the next day?
More than 20 days paid holidays per year (I'm looking at you India).
In China nearly everyone takes vacation during the same 20 days: The lunar new year, in Jan/Feb, and "National Week" in October. That makes it easy to manage.
Teams paralyzed because problems appear and projects slip while the team waits for the US leadership to make decisions?
You are missing the point. If you move the entire team overseas, that includes the decision makers. There is no need to "phone home".
Labor costs creeping up overseas
True, but still way below Silicon Valley levels. I can hire solid engineers and devs in Shanghai for $35k.
The cost of moving development infrastructure overseas?
My laptop fits in my backpack.
Maybe just toss the H-1B program completely? (Score:5, Insightful)
H-1B visa abuse is pretty commonplace. Even B-1 visa abuse is commonplace where people from offshore wind up working here in the US for 90-180 days, then get rotated out, and another batch of people from Kerala or Bangalore moved in. The fines for that are so cheap that it is written off as a cost of doing business.
The problem is that there are many tax incentives to abuse the visa system. For example, I can pay the payroll tax for 20 FTEs, or I can pay some contracting firm that hauls in people fresh off the boat, and don't have to pay a dime. As an added bonus, I can tell them to punt someone I don't like because I feel like it, and the contracting place removes them. No separation, no work on my side other than locking some accounts. Plus, I don't have to worry about HR and interviews.
So, until the system is fixed that encourages outsourcing to H-1B abusing contract firms, we will see this shit continuing. The H-1B program needs to be tossed, or modified where for every dollar paid for an H-1B, another dollar gets paid to the US government earmarked for education, with a minimum salary of five times the median income.
Re:Maybe just toss the H-1B program completely? (Score:5, Interesting)
As an added bonus, I can tell them to punt someone I don't like because I feel like it, and the contracting place removes them. No separation, no work on my side other than locking some accounts. Plus, I don't have to worry about HR and interviews.
In this Weinsteinian era, it starts to make me wonder how much sexual harassment gets swept under the rug in this system.
Pressure some woman for sex and when she doesn't deliver, tell the body shop she's not working out and you want her replaced. Given the generally low ethics associated with body shops, I can totally see them playing into serial offenders and sending them easy prey.
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I have seen this play out in a small manufacturing firm in the midwest US. Nearly all of the 80 line workers were "permanent temps". Everyone is hired through temp agencies, and technically work for the temp agency on site. This practice is so the company can get away with not following many worker protections. If a manager does not like an employee, a phone call to the temp agency and the worker is "unplaced", not fired, at no cost or risk to the manufacturer.
There were allegations of sexual misconduct by
Re:Maybe just toss the H-1B program completely? (Score:5, Informative)
The problem is that there are many tax incentives to abuse the visa system.
There is another problem you failed to mention: continuing H-1B status is often used by employers to coerce the visa holders to work for lower-than-normal wages.
That is a big part of the reason the tech industry has for years been lobbying to expand the program.
A number of recent studies have shown that there simply is no shortage of tech-field college and university graduates in the U.S.
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It's only purpose for being is to fill a "shortage" in the U.S. workforce that does not, in fact, exist.
Contrapositive Colonialism (Score:5, Insightful)
In British Colonial times, the British traveled to India to set up companies there and exploit the most talented natives.
In US Colonial times, the most talented come voluntarily to the US to be exploited.
Strange times, eh?
H1-B is total crap and needs to be eliminated ASAP. Oh, but that lobbyist money from Microsoft, Oracle, Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc.
Your Congress Critter cannot argue with that money!
Re: Contrapositive Colonialism (Score:5, Informative)
"In US Colonial times, the most talented come voluntarily to the US to be exploited."
Actually, a lot of cheap labor during the colonial era was obtained in the form of indentured servitude. Commit a crime, get sentenced and shipped off to America. The people who arrived in this way weren't exactly volunteering to be exploited; it was just better than alternatives like prison or execution. Also, these people were not necessarily the most talented.
Re: Contrapositive Colonialism (Score:3)
I believe the point being made is that the current-day US is an empire engaging in colonialism by brain-drain and nothing to do with indentured servitude during pre-revolutionary times
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That's a funny way to define "empire": a place less hellish than most of the world that attracts immigration from the most ambitious people from the rest of the planet.
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Actually, a lot of cheap labor during the colonial era was obtained in the form of indentured servitude.
Next you're going to suggest that some were even... white!
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Only ONE of those companies makes the top 10 H1B sponsors... and that is in TENTH place... the other 9 only have one "tech" company in them. The rest are "consultancies".
https://www.myvisajobs.com/Rep... [myvisajobs.com]
The companies you mentioned don't really care, and probably want Visa reform too.
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If they get rid of H1B companies will just move their operations to India. That's not the solution you are looking for.
You should concentrate on making high quality labor valued. Look at Germany, massive manufacturing base and competing with China on export value, because people value German quality and locality.
Basically you need to offer something that India can't.
Re: Contrapositive Colonialism (Score:2)
...companies will just move their operations to India.
Sure they will; superior infrastructure and all that. (I'm actually fairly amused that you're dumb enough to try and play that card...)
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Do you think India doesn't have electricity or communications or industry? If the workers can't work in America, they'll have to work in India instead.
Good! (Score:5, Insightful)
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One of the few things that orange dude has done right. I've seen H1-B bullshit in many orgs.
Re:Good! (Score:5, Insightful)
Of course this is a small number compared to the 60 to 90,000 H1B visas, about a quarter for higher degrees, but one can imagine that for a federal government that wants to cut down on immigration, prioritizing the help at the country club over the technical needs for innovative companies might seem like a reasonable choice.
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What's the unemployment rate of CS grads in the US for you to make such a statement?
Looks like it is true (Score:5, Interesting)
Both were hit with RFE. Guidance from the lawyers were:
They seem to be cracking down on the practice of finding unusual combinations of qualifications in the candidates (like BS in accounting, fluency in Kannada language and truck driving license), putting them all as necessary qualifications making it impossible for anyone else to apply.
We only hire people with Masters or PhDs from top American schools. We were at a very heave disadvantage in the earlier loose era. TCS, Wipro and the assorted Indian body shoppers would grab the H1Bs and our candidates had to live through lottery. But now, we can easily meet the law, in spirit as well as the letter. Personally I welcome such strict scrutiny. It should have been like this from day 1.
US high school grads with 1 or 2 year training is enough to do most jobs done by the Indian Body shop imports. They should not even be considered for H1B. Simple coding is all they do, and they were gaming the system. They should restrict H1Bs for Graduate degrees from US universities. That will curb the rampant resume inflation and outright lies in the resumes.
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I think that the big should be salary. If the employee you need has to have skills that are really rare (everybody with those skills in the USA are already employed), then you will be ready to pay him a lot.
Or maybe you will find a US citizen willing to work for less than what is needed to get the foreigner in.
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All that week so is make it extremely hard for new/smaller companies to get the talent they genuinely need.
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An auction actually solves all of the problems.
Each hopeful employer selects an amount, puts it in escrow. Escrow company notifies the immigration office, immigration office puts the bid in their list. Each month, the top 10 or 25 bids are selected. Office notifies the escrow company. Escrow company notifies the employer and the employee. Escrow company then pays one thirty-sixth of the escrow amount to employee as salary and benefits each month, starting on the day they enter the country and ending wh
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They seem to be cracking down on the practice of finding unusual combinations of qualifications in the candidates (like BS in accounting, fluency in Kannada language and truck driving license), putting them all as necessary qualifications making it impossible for anyone else to apply.
So the employers sculpt job requirements around specific qualifications of foreigners, then whine that no "qualified" Americans exist? Disgraceful.
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Or maybe these jobs just require unique skillsets?
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The article actually spells out the H1-B problem (Score:5, Interesting)
Even if it wasn’t the author’s intent. From TFA:
”For Centro, a company in Chicago that makes technology for ad agencies, the problems started this summer. Centro had applied for visas for three young employees who already had the legal right to work for a limited time after graduating from college. One of the applications had been chosen in the H-1B lottery. Emilie Clark, the company’s director of human resources, happily called the employee to tell him his immigration status was settled for the next three years. ”
H1-B is supposed to be used for special cases where there simply aren’t enough Americans available with a particular hard-to-find skill set. There’s just about zero chance that some young recent graduate has such a background. But just for the sake of argument, what were the skills in this case? Again, from TFA:
”... which consisted of writing algorithms and required knowledge of multiple programming languages as well as a solid understanding of relational data storage systems ...”
Seriously? The company needed an H1-B for that?
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they had an amazing, unreplicable skill set of the above and the ability to work on 15k per year.
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You made a very good point, using only evidence in the article to highlight the hypocrisy in the visa system. Obviously we don't need to import job seekers who cannot have qualifications beyond what every American computer science graduate has.
For positions which are not entry-level, one way that companies are getting their cheap H1B labor is by exaggerating the 'particular hard-to-find skill set', creating a combination that no one in the industry would actually have. But miraculously, the "consulting"
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There’s just about zero chance that some young recent graduate has such a background.
That's a funny thing to say in an industry where drop-outs create world-changing companies. What exactly are you hoping to achieve by deporting skilled, educated workers?
Plenty of abuse (Score:5, Insightful)
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Or, the company should specify what salary it is going to pay the employee. Then the limited number of visas issued to those who are willing to pay the highest salaries.
At some point it will become cheaper to hire a local or even pay a local to learn the skill and then hire him. If the skills required are truly rare, then it is only fair that the employee should get a huge salary.
Good (Score:5, Insightful)
Removing any job from someone in the USA (Score:2)
This is just theatre (Score:2)
It's about time they started enforcing the law (Score:2)
Trump expands H2B program by 15000 in 2017 (Score:4)
In typical hypocritical fashion, Trump expanded the H2B by 15000 this year and even hired 70 workers at Mar-a-lago
Every job in that H2B category depresses wages for American workers. If these were immigrants, at least they would be engaging in the economy buying houses, cars, etc. The guest worker hunkers down, saves money and takes it out of our country.
How does he get away with this?
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There's nothing to "get away with" -- Congress explicitly authorized the increase in the FY 2017 Consolidated Appropriations Act [congress.gov]:
SEC. 543. Notwithstanding the numerical limitation set forth
in section 214(g)(1)(B) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8
U.S.C. 1184(g)(1)(B)), the Secretary of Homeland Security, after
consultation with the Secretary of Labor, and upon the determina-
tion that the needs of American businesses cannot be satisfied
in fiscal year 2017 with United States workers who are willing,
qualified, and able to perform temporary nonagricultural labor,
may increase the total number of aliens who may receive a visa
under section 101(a)(15)(H)(ii)(b) of such Act (8 U.S.C.
1101(a)(15)(H)(ii)(b)) in such fiscal year above such limitation by
not more than the highest number of H–2B nonimmigrants who
participated in the H–2B returning worker program in any fiscal
year in which returning workers were exempt from such numerical
limitation.
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He gets away with it because his supporters will keep supporting him as long as he keeps sending out offensive tweets that they can post on facebook/reddit/4chan and say 'lol liberals BTFO'.
H1-B Given to Pizza cook at Papa John's (Score:2)
eh (Score:2)
Just about everybody gets the current state of H-1B workers wrong. There are two pools of H-1Bs, who are here under the same visa but in totally different situations.
The first are people who are actually filling jobs they couldn't find Americans to fill. These are often STEM professions that not enough Americans want to go into in the areas that need them -- like civil or mechanical engineering in unsexy areas (like wastewater treatment), or physicians in underserved areas. Americans with talent and interes
immigration lawyers (Score:2)
Re:Even a stopped clock... (Score:5, Insightful)
You know the likely result of this? "Oh crap, we need to hire more Americans!" followed shortly by "damn we need to invest in and train our people, hiring is too expensive these days!"
Your insight (Score:5, Insightful)
You know the real agenda isn't to "encourage" companies to hire domestic talent, it just happens to coincide with their mission to Keep the Brown People Out.
There are very good economic models that suggest that importing labor is bad. There's some statistical evidence that immigrants that don't take up the new culture are a safety risk due to increased crime, and that immigrants use more social services than citizens.
Other countries have extreme immigration policies, and several countries don't allow immigration at all (such as China, where you can't immigrate even if you own a Chinese business and are married to a Chinese citizen), and many have strictly controlled borders. Would the US be exceptional if we did the same?
Furthermore, very few people in the US are actually racist. Ignoring the "all whites are racist" bullshit and looking at the actual statistics, it's estimated that there are only about 2000 actual white supremacists in the US. The hair-triggered left reports of a banana peel signifying racism notwithstanding, it's not a real issue. Whites simply don't care what someone's color is. (Behaviour, on the other hand, is an issue.)
Black lives matter is, statistically speaking, completely off the mark [imgur.com]. This does not imply that there is no problem and that things couldn't be made better, but it's false and ineffective to address that problem first, before the elephant in the room.
And yet, despite all the statistical evidence to the contrary and lack of contrary evidence, you have insight into the *real* reason we want to limit immigration: it's because secretly, down deep, we want to "Keep The Brown People Out".
(And your insight does not stem from the very good evidence that immigrants vote en-masse for a certain party.)
Despite not consciously being racist, not really caring about the race of whoever we interact with you're here to tell us the real reason we act the way we do?
Because you're somehow smarter or better informed than us?
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America has been importing labour for hundreds of years. In fact almost its entire population came from importing workers. Last I looked, America has been pretty successful under that strategy. Much more successful than protectionist, isolationist, racist China which has an average income more comparable to sub-Saharan Africa than the developed world, despite having huge technological and economical leads several centuries ago.
I don't know what American tech workers hope to achieve by limiting H1B visas. Te
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, it's estimated that there are only about 2000 actual white supremacists in the US.
nope [adl.org].
Sorry mate, you got nothing.
Exaggeration [windows.net].
Furthermore, you're citing a poem as evidence of... what?
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Re:Even a stopped clock... (Score:5, Informative)
As somebody who has been through the USICS process with a relative I don't think you really capture the situation at all.
An RFE isn't a "challenge." I received an RFE myself. It is what it says it is: a request for additional documentation. The person who decides to send an RFE or not isn't a person who has "reasons," or an "agenda." They are basically a police officer. Their title is Immigration Officer, and their job involves not only investigating the paperwork to see if it is naughty, but also chasing down and arresting people who don't have the right paperwork. This is not some sort of political appointee, these are the same career professionals who were doing the job last year, the year before, the year before. Whatever personal agenda they might have, it isn't changing from year to year.
What changed is a policy, relating to how much paperwork they have to find in the application before approving it. In the past they had instructions not to really investigate the H1B applications in the same way that they process other types of application; now they're applying the same type of evidence standards that other applications require, and are in fact called for in the laws authorizing the H1B program. That's what they're going to do. Naturally, these companies were submitting the least evidence they needed to get approved, because in a "rubber stamp" regulatory environment you don't want to submit extra stuff that might get examined. But as here, when they suddenly switch to the actual system that the law set up, now those applications don't have all the required evidence, and so of course they're going to get RFEs.
If their situation is like mine, and everything is in order the Officer just wanted additional evidence, then they'll have no problem. If in fact their application doesn't meet the standards in the law, and they only even submitted it because they anticipated getting rubber-stamped, then they'll get rejected. Rightfully.
Your idea is silly because it would require there to be a bunch of new appointees running things, but actually that isn't the case. They're not involved in considerations like trying to encourage companies to hire domestic talent; they're concerned with the paperwork involved in documenting the required steps in the law.
These aren't the immigration cops who arrest brown people for being near the border; these are the immigration cops who wake you up at 6am to make sure you're really married and sleeping in the same bed! They don't give a rats ass what color her skin is; most people whose applications they approve are going to have brown skin, because we're on planet Earth.
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No mod points to give, but thank you for your experience.
The rest of the comments are garbage.
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H1B visa holders aren't the creators of culture here because they don't get to stay permanently. It's a visa, not asylum. Therefore regardless of what color they are, I am not as worried about their presence as I am about the effect their willingness to work cheap has on the rest oft he labor market.
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But I don't trust the authority that you reference in your "argument from authority". Can you point to some actual evidence?
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Just to be clear: This action is NOT reducing the number of H1-B visas issued. It is reducing the INPUTS to the lottery, not the OUTPUTS. So the same number of visas will be issued, just to different people.
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Stop it. You're harshing their nativist buzz.
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Just to be clear: This action is NOT reducing the number of H1-B visas issued. It is reducing the INPUTS to the lottery, not the OUTPUTS. So the same number of visas will be issued, just to different people.
As it should be. Remember, the complaint is about the abuse of the H1-B visa.
Imagine you're running a lottery for seats in a certification program--all entries are supposed to be for people who meet the qualifications, because there's several times as many people applying for the program as there's seats. You've got a total of 50 seats in the program, 500 qualified applicants, and anybody who wins automatically gets a seat reserved for them. The odds of any applicant getting in is 1 in 100.
What happens t
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Because the talent here doesn't want to live in those bits of Silicon Valley that an entry level salary could afford. The first requirement is that they can live and work somewhere where they can walk to shops at lunchtime and the evenings. Just being three miles from a downtown street is either a one hours walk or a 30 minute car drive. The only places that really match that profile are San Francisco, Menlo Park and Palo Alto.
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Just being three miles from a downtown street is either a one hours walk or a 30 minute car drive.
Time to upgrade your 6 mile per hour car. I hear the Ford Model A can get up to a whole 65 miles per hour.
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There's plenty of goddam search engines, why the fuck speculate?
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God forbid we actually look at these applications and require they prove they are qualified for the job and are going to obey our laws.
The Law-abiding! *Gasp*
Re: Trump/Bannon economic nationalism is anti-capi (Score:5, Insightful)
That's not what he said. They need to follow the process and meet the requirements.
What we have are companies claiming they can't find qualified people, then bring in people that are equally as unqualified, but measurably cheaper.
if you are going to have rules, fucking enforce them.
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The problem with H1Bs, is they allow the company to have a leverage over their employees beyond just mere payment. Your employer can essentially deport you at will. Not just fire and cut off income, but literally cut off residency. This leads to a terrible power imbalance, that of course the employers would seek.
You're right, but also wrong.
Yes, H1-B gives a company more leverage over the employee as would be the case with regular U.S. Citizen/LPR employees. However, they are not entirely at the mercy of their employers since an H1-B petition can be ported to another company. Yes, they will have to file the petition and USCIS will need to approve it, but essentially an H1-B can move companies.
In practice, most H1-Bs do not, because they are waiting for their greencards. Let's be honest here: most H1-B visa recipients are from Indian origin. Regardless of how you feel about that, since India is an oversubscribed country in terms of immigration visas available, it takes many, many years for most Indians to get their greencards. Switching employers while having an approved I-140 (and waiting for a greencard to be available) is not so easy. That's why most Indian (and thus the vast majority of) H1-Bs stick with their employers, not because their employer can deport them at will.
In the case of the L1 visa, the story is true. An L1 cannot be ported to another company, and thus termination of employment means termination of residency.
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There is nothing to stop a foreigner from working for an American company, and that's as is should be. It is the government's responsibility to protect America, both by protecting it from attack and by protecting the American culture (by which I mean people with philosophies such as "All non-Muslims must die" should be rejected, and that large numbers of people unfamiliar with what freedom requires cannot be rapidly assimilated.)
Non-Americans no not have the right to be in America, and they certainly don't
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That is what Trump is selling so yes, he is a Capitalist
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It is good for you that you are an actual capitalist (somebody who earns a living from accumulated capital), but a lot of people are not capitalists - they earn money by working for a company.
Importing cheap labor lowers prices (hopefully) and helps the consumer in the short term, however, it hurts the economy in the long term. If the locals are unwilling to live in the low standard of living that the foreigners are accustomed to (10 people sharing a room etc), then it places a definite minimum on the salar
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Real capitalism simply means the right to contract with who you want, when you want, for what you want, and to be secure in your person and property, and have the right to use your own property for whatever you wish and to do business with whoever you wish, so long as you do not initiate aggression against the person or property of someone else.
That fails on a large scale just like communism fails on a large scale
Real free market needs there to be a lot of sellers who offer similar goods, and it also requires everyone to be well-informed and acting rationally. In practice, there are huge costs to enter some markets (say, the CPU industry) just because of the technologies involved. That results in those markets being dominated by one or two companies (how many spinning hard drive manufacturers are there?). This then results in the buyer having litt
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I was wondering how quickly some MORON would bring Trump into this as if this program has been anything other than a shameless abuse of power and exploitation by people just like Trump.
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"Trump ran his campaign on putting Americans first, and the Dims can't manage to wrap their tiny brains around the fact that Trump is keeping his campaign promises, and putting Americans first, as demonstrated by a 70% reduction in approved H1B Visas according to the article."
Trump puts Trump first, as also noted by Mar-A-Lago bringing in all H2B labor instead of hiring locally. Not to mention building Trump tower out of Chinese steel by a substantial illegal immigrant workforce.
But that's different, right
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The industries are not going bankrupt.
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"No one owes you a job."
False.
Politician, who promised you to keep your job, and whom you voted in, owes you a job. And if that means stopping your employer from replacing you with a cheaper foreign worker (through abusing a program that is meant only to allow import of talents that are lacking domestically, never intended to replace existing employees), stopping your employer from abusing that program is doing exactly what he owes you for your vote.
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Just let the free market sort it out. It fixes everything. Rape, murder, slavery, domestic dispute, every thing can be solved by the free market. In fact, the free market is not just an economic issue, its a moral cornerstone of society.
Ahh, what?
Please tell me the Sarcasm flag is set
Else....what?
Free Market = slavery, with every ill you named included and sanctioned
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Global worming.