VLC 3.0 Adds Chromecast Support and More as the Best Free Media Player Gets Even Better (pcworld.com) 131
Ian Paul, writing for PCWorld: The best free media player is getting even better. After three years of development, VLC 3.0 'Ventari' is rolling out to all platforms, and it's packed full of goodies such as Chromecast support. The latest version of VLC contains a lot of great additions, as well as a tweaked UI. Chromecast discovery tops the list. It's only available on Windows desktop and Android right now, but Videolan says the feature's coming to VLC's iOS and the Windows Store apps in the future. [...] VLC 3.0's refreshed UI isn't a fresh, new look from previous versions, but it is noticeably different. The icons at the bottom of the window are cleaner, and the small icons used within menu items are also new. Version 3.0 also adds support for 360-degree video and 3D audio, readying features for a VR version of VLC slated to roll out in mid-April. The new VLC also adds hardware decoding across all platforms for better performance and less CPU consumption, especially when dealing with more resource-intense video.
Seems to be an ad (Score:1)
This /. post seems to mostly be an advertisement.
Is it really true that this is "the best" and "about to get even better" and has no downside whatsoever?
Re: Seems to be an ad (Score:4, Informative)
Yes, it is.
Re:It's not out yet (Score:5, Informative)
And it's been years since the last version of VLC was released. We've been waiting for WebM WebVTT subtitle support for that entire time.
It has NOT been years since the last version of VLC. Version 2.2.8 was released for OS X and Windows (both x32 and x64) less than three months ago.
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Free as in freedom, not free as in beer.
Either way, MPV is superior and available on Linux.
Re: It's not out yet (Score:2)
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Windows has the clearly superior MPC-HC which is free as in freedom and free as in beer...
As long as you don't think you'll ever need support [mpc-hc.org] of any kind, perhaps.
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p>kurkosdr opined:
Windows has the clearly superior MPC-HC which is free as in freedom and free as in beer...
prompting dcsmith to respond:
As long as you don't think you'll ever need support [mpc-hc.org] of any kind, perhaps.
The fact is that, as of today, MPC-HC is as stable as any application I've ever used on the Windows platform. Also, because the player employs whichever codecs the user has installed, it should be fully compatible with forthcoming video codecs for some time to come, as long as new ones are installed by the OS as they come into use - and on Windows, that's pretty much been the case.
Having said that, because development of MPC-HC has come to an end, it won't be capable of displayi
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MPC-HC was not the only active fork of MPC, which let's not forget was abandoned by the author in 2006. That said, I'm not a huge fan of the interface of the only other active port, MPC-BE, which does not follow the original goal of keeping the simple and clean look of Windows Media Player 6.4.
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Nonsense, SMplayer is vastly superior to MPC.
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VLC has been far from the best media player on Linux. I went back to mplayer because its speed is unparalleled, seeking in a stream is fast and doesn't break the playback completely, and it doesn't flail around and spaz out if it doesn't understand how to play something.
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SMPlayer with MPV as the backend is probably the best media player on any platform right now.
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I just wonder what these superior media players do that VLC doesn't? What I need is to be able to click on a video file and then watch it on the screen with minimal UI crud.
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Plan 9.
Six months of feature work... (Score:1)
...and two and a half years trying to dumb it down to qualify to be hosted on the "Universal" Windows App Store. The final "App" version only has a Play button and is about as useful as the media player in Windows RG.
Re: Six months of feature work... (Score:2, Funny)
Eventually a version crippled enough to be approved to run on iOS will come out.
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Achievement already unlocked.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vlc-for-mobile/id650377962
Re: Six months of feature work... (Score:2)
It's about time! (Score:2)
Re:It's about time! (Score:4, Interesting)
Couldn't agree more.
VLC has been my go-to solution for anything that wasn't trivially supported by other apps, and the absence of Chromecast support meant I didn't have easy access to my media server which I have set up to just share the content. Was toying with the idea of grabbing the code and trying to add it myself but they beat me to it (and I couldn't be more thrilled about it).
Only issue will be that the Chromecast will only play what it understands how to play, which likely means no sound from anything in a MKV container if my experience trying to cast the screen to get around this previously is any indication, but that's not VLC's fault. Will be happy to be able to cast from it regardless.
Kudos.
~AC
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Only issue will be that the Chromecast will only play what it understands how to play, which likely means no sound from anything in a MKV container if my experience trying to cast the screen to get around this previously is any indication, but that's not VLC's fault. Will be happy to be able to cast from it regardless.
From the article:
VideoLAN designed VLC’s Chromecast support as a workaround for any media formats Chromecast can’t natively support. VLC can re-encode video on the fly to make it work with Chromecast, including casting DVDs from your Windows machine.
I gather from the article's statement that the greatest value of the Chromecast support is precisely that any video format VLC supports can be reencoded on the fly to play on the Chromecast. So VLC is ahead of you on this score.
I am disappointed that VLC doesn't support receiving a Chromecast. It would be very nice to be able to Chromecast from my phone and other devices to a Window on one of my PC displays. This would also enable the assistant on my Google Home to audio and video to my PC
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Now you'll stream your porn to your TV easier than ever! (Oh wait, is VLC used for more than that? Pirated movies? Vacation movies?)
Plays retail DVDs quite well. Even lets you bypass all the "unskippable" nonsense.
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What exactly is this "cast" thing you and the article mention?
It take it, it has something to do with the chrome browser, but I've not really used chrome except for one try many years ago for a day or so....but what does it do and will other browsers work with it too besides chrome?
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If you have a chromecast device plugged into your TV, you can then display video from your phone or whatever on the bigger screen.
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Hmm...I'm trying to wonder what video from a tiny phone looks like on a nice 4K TV, or even a regular 1080p tv....?
Interesting concept, but I'm trying to figure out why I'd want to do this..?
I have AmazonFireTV boxes on each TV (since I cut the cord)...so, I can watch all the YouTube, Netflix, Amazon Prime and other streaming videos I'd want in high quality....
That and I'm no
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Hmm...I'm trying to wonder what video from a tiny phone looks like on a nice 4K TV, or even a regular 1080p tv....?
Hmm...I'm trying to wonder what video from a tiny blu-ray looks like on a nice 4K TV, or even a regular 1080p tv....?
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My HTC M10 has a full-HD 1080i (or maybe even p?) camera, and the videos look pretty sweet - there's optical image stabilization built in, and it looks for all the world like I'm walking around with a Steadicam. Audio could be better, but...
Likewise, streaming Netflix, etc. looks fine, as expected - though keep in mind that the Chromecast is connecting directly to Netflix in that case - it's not getting it off the phone.
The only reasons I don't use the Chromecast more are that 1. it's really difficult to us
Re:It's about time! (Score:4)
Hmm...I'm trying to wonder what video from a tiny phone looks like on a nice 4K TV, or even a regular 1080p tv....?
It looks like standard 1080p video. The screen on most smart phones has at least 1080p resolution or higher. Just because the screen is smaller doesn't change the quality of the video. 1080p video on your phone is still 1080p video on your big ass tv.
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Well, I've pretty much always had either a Roku or Amazon FireTV box on my televisions, and stream through those...I thought that was what most people used.
I'd never thought of using my cellphone to play stuff on the big screen, or use it as a remote like others here have described the casting thing a
Bring back RealPlayer (Score:2, Funny)
The pinnacle of media playback; Even installing it was a joy, All been downhill since then.
It's "Vetinari" (Score:5, Interesting)
Whoever wrote that summary is not a geek, otherwise they would know VLC versions are named after Terry Pratchet's Discworld characters. Version 3.0 is named after Lord Vetinari, Patrician of Ankh-Morpork.
It's "Pratchett” (Score:2, Insightful)
Some geeks just aren’t into Terry Pratchett.
Great writer... just not into it.
In a little under 7 par-secs (Score:2)
If you have that much time.
Pixelization ? (Score:2)
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No, they haven't. I wouldn't call it the "best free media player" just yet. I've wasted hours trying to fix video issues by re-encoding source material trying to get out pixelization and other errors that I see in VLC. Only to find out the issue is with VLC and not my encodes.
My encodes play just fine in MPC, on Plex, and even windows built in media player just fine. It's only in VLC that I see issues. So, instead of just adding features, it would be nice if they would fix their core features first.
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Do you mean MPC-HC (mpc-hc.org)?
Yes, MPC-HC. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles that VLC has, but it renders virtually everything I've thrown at it perfectly.
Availability (Score:5, Informative)
Has the UI gotten any better? (Score:3)
As far as I can tell, the playback UI is missing obvious features like X second skip forward/back, slow motion, etc, and isn't at all touch screen friendly. I don't need much that is touch screen friendly, but a video player would be one place where it'd be nice.
Re:Has the UI gotten any better? (Score:4, Informative)
As far as I can tell, the playback UI is missing obvious features like X second skip forward/back, slow motion, etc, ...
As far as I remember, it's customizable: Tools => Customize Interface
... and isn't at all touch screen friendly.
You just won't believe this, but it has support for different skins too! Just use a search engine and look for something like: vlc touchscreen skin. ;-)
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I used a search engine, and couldn't find how to enable "left click to pause" UI feature.
All the touchscreen skin does is make UI buttons bigger, reducing the video area. You can not even pause with a touch!
No "click to pause" is the only reason I stopped using this otherwise great media program.
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You can not even pause with a touch!
No "click to pause" is the only reason I stopped using this otherwise great media program.
Works on my tablet. Pause whenever I feel like.
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and isn't at all touch screen friendly.
I use it on my tablet without issues so for my use it is touch screen friendly.
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That is not the half of it; VLC is a fantastic thing in terms of playing anything you throw at it, but its user interface is still from the 90s and is abysmal. No support for doing anything but basic playback. Accessing even simple functions like zooming, brightening, rotating etc makes ctrl-alt-delete seem user-friendly. No support for obvious things like visual seek.
And of course no support for tagging, searching or even basic media management features.
I find myself using smplayer more and more these days
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It sounds like the mobile apps are more intended towards playback and I don't see any mention of remote control functionality, so I suspect the answer to the second question is "no". Though the first part sounds like it should work fine.
For remote control functionality, you're probably better off using Plex or something like it. Without needing to buy anything or sign up for a paid Plex Pass subscription, you should be able to use it to playback MKVs and cast them to a Chromecast (which they've supported si
Have they cracked the Chromecast protocol? (Score:2)
The Chromecast protocol is heavily obfuscated and has secret encryption keys. Have they cracked it, meaning I can look into VLC's source code to see how it works and port it to other things, or are they tacking on a closed-source blob to enable this?
I actually lost interest in the things when I learned how they work. Chromecast isn't really a media streaming system, it's more of a URL sharing system.
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For most online content, yes, it just tells the Chromecast what to play the the Chromecast pulls the stream on its own, independent (so you aren't killing your smartphone battery / data / whatever or tied to it being on to see your movie).
But desktop / tab / screen sharing, no, that's a media-transmission method of its own.
Sure, I imagine the protocol isn't as open as I'd like, but then same for all its rivals (AirServer / Amazon Fire / etc.).
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I use SMB on my home network. I thought a software-based Chromecast implementation could be handy basically as an alternative to wiring the phone to the TV (since my phone runs LineageOS and doesn't have the binary blob drivers for HDMI output).
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It's not files I have a problem with though, it's trying to stream arbitrary video and audio from my phone to another device, as if they were connected with an HDMI cable. Could be for viewing pictures, a video chat stream, or a web browsing session...anything, really.
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Awesome, now how do I turn a live feed of my phone's screen output into a file, for when I'm not just playing a preexisting file, which I already use SMB for? Ideally with minimal lag, for the aforementioned video chats.
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Very much depends on the purpose.
You streaming a 4Mbps stream over a 100Mbps local connection... sure.
You streaming a 1Mbps stream over a heavily congested 54Mbps wireless shared with a dozen people and interfered with by a dozen other networks? Er... nope. Things like RTSP etc. exist for a reason, and have done since the days of 56kbps audio/video streams.
SMB/NFS are all-or-nothing and work for video only because your system is capable of keeping up at all times. The second it CAN'T quite keep up for a
Chromecast receiver? (Score:2)
Is it a chromecast receiver or can it only cast to a chromecast device? A receiver would be more interesting.
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Caster.
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I have an old Xeon X5650 CPU which is 8 years old at this point. It barely breaks 7% usage when playing x265 files. I toyed around with some of the players that make use of hardware but found little difference. They claim the quality is better but only when zoomed at 4x can you see it.
best "free" (Score:3, Insightful)
Re: best "free" (Score:2)
On Android, MX Player used to be great, until they dropped support for MPEG2.
DVD Patent expiration (Score:1)
Preview image when hovering over the time bar? (Score:2)
Are they ever going to implement this feature? Showing an image of when hovering over a position in the time slider? Its one thing I really miss having when using this otherwise great media player.
not available (Score:2)
is this a beta? website says 2.2.8 is the latest
Availability Not Yet Complete (Score:2, Informative)
The home page for VideoLAN at https://www.videolan.org/ [videolan.org] still indicates the current version is 2.2.8. The downloads page at http://download.videolan.org/v... [videolan.org] does show a version 3.0.0. For Windows, however, there is no x64 version yet. Since I usually use VLC for listening to streaming broadcasts of classical music, I will wait for an x64 Windows version.
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VLC 3.0 got pushed to my android 7.1 this AM. Here is the 3.0 link from TFA https://www.videolan.org/vlc/r... [videolan.org]
Re:Availability Not Yet Complete (Score:5, Informative)
Since I usually use VLC for listening to streaming broadcasts of classical music, I will wait for an x64 Windows version.
Does classical music sound better when played on a 64 bit application than it does on a 32 bit? Remember, these "bits" aren't bits of resolution in the digitized audio signal, but rather they're simply the architecture of code: 64 bit code can in theory do more in less time. Streaming of classical music, even at high definition rates of 96kHz sampling frequency and 24 bits per channel of audio should work just fine even in a 32 bit application on any modern CPU.
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Yes, the Windows x64 3.0.0 version is now at http://download.videolan.org/v... [videolan.org]. I downloaded and installed it. It works fine for both streaming broadcasts and local .mp4 video files on my PC.
Blu-ray disk? (Score:2)
I'm pretty sure there's some IP reason, but why they doesn't support Blu-ray disk yet?
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VLC is open source, Blue-ray is just about as closed source as you can get (one reason why I won't touch them) due to it being chock full of DRM and encryption.
Main thing I want to know (Score:1)
Are the default settings appropriate for a computer made after the year 2006?
Handbrake compatible? (Score:1)
The best? (Score:2)
No madVR support? And its the best? I am on slashdot right..
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