Elon Musk Says Boring Company Will Sell 'Lego-Like' Kits of Excavated Rock (theverge.com) 95
Elon Musk says his Boring Company will sell "interlocking bricks" made from the rock that its tunnel-creating machines excavate from the ground. In other words, think Lego, he says, except giant, heavy, and made of Earth. The Verge reports: Musk says that the Boring Company will sell "kits" of bricks, starting with one that makes it easy to build things from "ancient Egypt," like replicas of the pyramids, the Sphinx, or the Temple of Horus. The bricks will be "lifesize," though it's not clear what that actually means. And they'll be bored through the middle, to save some weight, but still rated to withstand California's earthquakes. (As is typical, Musk announced the idea in freewheeling fashion on Twitter.) t's unclear when these bricks, or the kits, will be available or how much they'll cost. The Boring Company is currently only digging short, preliminary tunnels in California and Maryland, so there's presumably not enough to start selling any of this upturned rock just yet. But the small company has big plans for tunnels around the country meant to facilitate debatably futuristic modes of transportation, so there will be plenty of newly removed earth if even half of those ever come to fruition.
A bet between friends (Score:3, Funny)
"I reckon I could get people to buy dirt from me"
Actually not new (Score:2)
Trying to find extra value of the left over rubbish, a.k.a. "revaluating / recycling", has been standard practice since as long as people have been digging (or boring).
Inventing ways to getting people to buy dirt is literally the norm in the field.
It's the marketing spin that's new:
Usually the dirt is provided as a ultra cheap material to fill holes, mix with concrete, etc.
Shaping it as the architect's supersized LEGO (as *litteral* bricks) is a new marketing ploy.
Probably for the free publicity that this n
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>Probably for the free publicity that this novelty will generate.
Perhaps. But standardized concrete construction blocks have a LOT of uses (I'm assuming a boring drill can't carve out nice big LEGO blocks from raw stone...). And with the right mobile casting equipment, hauling construction blocks out of a tunnel would be a LOT more profitable than hauling out rubble. And if he gets his machines digging as fast as he would like it could actually make sense to do so. Bonus points if the blocks meet the r
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I know a guy with a bunch of land. Construction companies pay him to dump dirt there. Then they come back and buy dirt. Somehow he makes a good living doing this. Just boggles my mind.
Boring company (Score:1)
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What are these for and who will want them.
Gee, that's exactly what folks say about the "Easter Island" eyeless head statues, as well.
I'm thinking that Musk is going to follow that model, and produce a bunch of big stone Musk heads, modeled after himself. These will be placed all over the world, in the places that you would least expect a giant eyeless Musk head.
What will be the true business purpose of the Musk heads . . . ?
Only Musk will know, for sure . . . and he is not twitting about it!
I need another pet rock (Score:1)
My old pet is not moving and might be dead.
Truthiness (Score:3, Funny)
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It might also have something to do with the fact that he's doing interesting things, pushing technological boundaries on all fronts, rather than just skimming the profitable business away from the postal service.
Not that he's doing anything profoundly new, technologically, but he's putting the pieces together into much more practical cost-effective arrangements.
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Need I point out that you're saying this in a post about him announcing his invention of the brick.
A fancy brick.
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If he can figure out a way to make decent bricks out of whatever he happens to be digging through, that would be pretty impressive. Similarly if he worked out a cost-effective method to produce the bricks on-site, rather than having to ship slag around.
If you think bricks are boring, you're not paying attention to the engineering or logistics surrounding them.
New boring tech? (Score:4, Insightful)
I must have missed an important tech advancement in tunnel boring. I thought his machines were the traditional super long cylinders with a massive grinding head at the front. The result is probably some kind of slurry that is piped out to the surface.
But if he is getting solid blocks, he must have something more advanced that I had assumed. Maybe something that cuts the sides like a mega chainsaw? Or some variation of a wire cutter? In any event, getting large blocks out instead of grinding everything to a powder must be a great advance, and I am curious about that.
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He's using 100% bog-standard drilling equipment he bought used.
Okay, thanks! I am reminded of the part in "Oath of Fealty" where they use a tunnelling machine...
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100% bog-standard drilling equipment
What kind of equipment is used to drill bogs? Wouldn't the holes fill in pretty quickly?
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Is he though? Or is he using that equipment to test new drilling head technologies, which is really the only part that would need to change at the developmental/testing stage?
Re:New boring tech? (Score:5, Interesting)
They're going to pour the slurry into molds and sell it.
It makes sense, because instead of disposing of the earth (which is quite expensive) he's getting people to pay him for it. That's pretty clever any way you slice it.
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Don't we already have a method of using existing aggregate in concrete? Is there some advantage to using pre-fab blocks instead of simply pouring on-site into existing molds?
Not pretending to be knowledgeable in this area at all, but just a bit confused about how this is somehow more desirable than more traditional building materials. Maybe less expensive in bulk, since they really just have to negate some disposal costs.
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Every man and his son can use prefabed lego like stones to build a house, probably even without need of mortar.
Building your own house, with your own concrete, and setting up the "forms" for it: is not that easy.
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I built a 320-foot x 6-foot formed, concrete retaining wall. I overbuilt to compensate for my possible ignorance. (I used 6 instead of 5 bag mix, for example.) The result was the best retaining wall in Kansas City (if I say so myself). I have a background in mechanical things and construction, but I had never done any concrete before. It's not that hard to do, and I learned that many concrete experts aren't.
Despite being technically easy, there is an economic problem with forms. You really need to own them
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A lot is a good start
More is better
And too much is just about right
This discussion was had while helping my neighbor build his shed as we were leveling and pouring an 8" thick slab for a 10'x16' shed with a bunch of rebar added in for good measure. Basically just over build with it and you will be good. 2 years later helping build his new detached gar
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Did he say anything about "huge" though? Interlocking cinder-block size solid blocks could find a lot of use. So long as they're small enough for one man (or even two) to stack them easily they could be extremely convenient to build with.
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They would be super convenient, if you either change your mind and want to rebuild it a little bit or if you just want to work occasionally at an afternoon for 30 minutes.
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if you could do that, you could do it already by disposing of said earth from other projects for "free".
these would be two separate biz moves.
look, superficially these things have a business connection but really they don't have.
it's superficially clever but not at all - if he has some new compress-earth-into-solid-blocks-that-stay-solid technology, then that it's bored from the ground matters little. he could have the earth literally from anywhere if it made any sense financially.
the questions to ask is si
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Doesn't it take a certain amount of refinement and processing to make this possible, and doesn't the viability of making "stuff" from dirt depend on what material you're digging and where?
Doesn't seem as simple or straightforward as it sounds. Then again, people DID buy pet rocks, so...
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He's an idiot. Any fool knows that if you need to get rid of a load of dirt, you dig another hole and stick it down there.
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They seem to be using standard muck carts for the waste. I would imagine these are compressed with some cement in them and cured.
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Make giant interlocking blocks that could form tube walls:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
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Or maybe he'll make sure that the slurry used is mostly clay (which is where you want to dig anyway, because having tunnels dug in clay makes them easier to keep watertight), he'll license the patent [clay-wienerberger.com] from this manufacturer or do a variation of that design, and he'll pour the slurry of clay into some honeycomb-like/lego-like molds that he bakes. That's it.
After all, it's not like his flame flower is using groundbreaking technology either, but he has been able to sell a huge number of them at a pretty ridicul
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The molds will be baked using Boring Company flamethrowers. Suddenly it all makes sense!
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Maybe something that cuts the sides like a mega chainsaw?
You're thinking solid blocks; not happening. Think powdered rock pressed into bricks, using heat, pressure, adhesive, etc.
No, I didn't RTFA - yet.
THINK OF THIS (Score:1)
Re:Common Musk (Score:1)
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Forgot to mention he started some new project that involved buying up former writers and editors from The Onion [msn.com]. I'm really interested to see what comes out of that, hopefully some kind of political satire thing that gets people to laugh at their own stupidity and move on, FSM knows our world needs plenty of both.
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Also, milk comes out of the wobbly things on the underside of Cows, and is used to feed their calves. They completely fail to mention this on the packaging.
Antibiotics are excreted by fungi; in fact, most medicine you find in hospitals comes from GMO fungi; won't you think of the poor innocent bacteria?!
Vanillin is the strongest flavoring naturally found in vanilla extract; it can also be extracted from cow manure, or synthesized from other chemicals.
Helium is a 'waste product' that comes from mining other
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that's QUITE the backlog! (Score:2)
Kingsford BBQ charcoal briquettes were originally made from left over scrap wood from Model - T fords. Don't think that is the case now, but who knows.
NOS model T scrap wood or new production?!
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They weren't alone. Sodium fluoride is a waste product of the aluminum industry. Toxic waste also purchased for water fluoridation supply. I heard that domestic industry ran out of this so now we import it from China who consider it a dangerous pollutant. (China!)
This was fake news in 1952, when the Republicans were spreading it. Today it's still fake news, but from the Democrats.
Beanie (Score:2)
Hmmm. Should I switch from buying Beanie Babies to this?
Uhm, It is not Lego (Score:1)
It is not "Lego". It is LEGO® brand building blocks.
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anything but their "core" business (Score:2)
Flamethrowers that aren't flamethrowers.
Legos that aren't Lego(tm).
Lets face it, the only thing "hyper" in Boring's Hyperloop is hyperbole.
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Touche!
Good (Score:2)
Gotta love harmless eccentric billionaires. Much better than any other kind of billionaire imho.
Going full idolatry? (Score:2)
What could possibly go wrong? (Score:2)
Combine lego-type blocks and AI? Maybe not a good idea... [youtube.com]
Flamethrower delivery time (Score:1)
Re:Flamethrower delivery time (Score:4, Insightful)
No he means he probably may deliver them at some point.
If he's selling blocks of Obsidian - (Score:2)
Then I can finally build that Ender Chest.
Building material..but.. (Score:2)
Too heavy to transport. Don't get the practical application. Hopefully there is one though! Cool idea, reuse byproduct
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boring, another Elon brain fart (Score:2)
Is Elon Musk on cocaine ???
Concrete companies are already doing this (Score:2)
It started when a Dutch concrete company tried to find something useful to do with the excess concrete that came back in their mixer trucks. So they made a bunch of smallish moulds shaped like a 2x4 Lego brick and poured the excess in them.
These became wildly popular as temporary barriers and construction material, and nowadays any number of concrete suppliers will sell you stackable, interlocking concrete bricks.
Doesn't make sense... (Score:2)
Tunnel boring machines do not neatly cut out the rock. They grind it up and spit out gravel.
While one could, theoretically, cut out nice chunks of rock (assuming the place you are tunneling actual has decent rock), taking time for this would massively slow the actual digging process. And for what, exactly? It's not like quarried stone is something difficult to find.
He's answering the question... (Score:2)
Bricks for Trumps Wall? (Score:2)
Maybe Elon is trying to get back into Trump's good graces by making bricks for his wall.
P.T. Barnum was right (Score:1)
Mars and Moon maybe? (Score:2)
So all of this may be a precursor to mars/moon habitat building & transport infrastructure maybe? I wonder if the dimensions of the borer would fit in the BFR? Flamethrower is to fry aliens of course...
Building Codes .vs. innovation (Score:2, Interesting)
Elon has not met the Uniform Building Code which dictates not only materials but rate of production for building materials in the US. The bricks and mortar kind of code is a product of the San Francisco bricklayers union based upon production of 80 bricks per hour. ANYTHING that poses a threat to that hallowed sanctuary for union labor in the US is an impossibly expensive process.
Getting new innovative product introduced in the US is so cumbersome that you must go to EU to see what the future looks like.
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It is made in .de by a German company. A search through patent database in Germany should refer you. I can find no Google links, no YouTube sources on the hollow fill styrofoam brick system I mentioned. Sorry
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Formed wall systems are not bricks engineering is well established on concrete wall design. Bricks are not concrete walls. The engineering for concrete wall formed in-place does not pass as a pico-wall in the UBC code.
Another never-before-seen invention from Musk (Score:2)
Public Rock Offering (Score:1)
Here are the blocks (Score:2)
https://static1.squarespace.co... [squarespace.com]
Linked from: https://www.boringcompany.com/... [boringcompany.com]
Must be a beta version - no visible interlocking mechanism.