Silicon Valley's Dirty Secret: Using a Shadow Workforce of Contract Employees To Drive Profits (cnbc.com) 177
An anonymous reader shares a report: As the gig economy grows, the ratio of contract workers to regular employees in corporate America is shifting. Google, Facebook, Amazon, Uber and other Silicon Valley tech titans now employ thousands of contract workers to do a host of functions -- anything from sales and writing code to managing teams and testing products. This year at Google, contract workers outnumbered direct employees for the first time in the company's 20-year history. It's not only in Silicon Valley. The trend is on the rise as public companies look for ways to trim HR costs or hire in-demand skills in a tight labor market. The U.S. jobless rate dropped to 3.7 percent in September, the lowest since 1969, down from 3.9 percent in August, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Some 57.3 million Americans, or 36 percent of the workforce, are now freelancing, according to a 2017 report by Upwork. In San Mateo and Santa Clara counties alone, there are an estimated 39,000 workers who are contracted to tech companies, according to one estimate by University of California Santa Cruz researchers. Spokespersons at Facebook and Alphabet declined to disclose the number of contract workers they employ. A spokesperson at Alphabet cited two main reasons for hiring contract or temporary workers. One reason is when the company doesn't have or want to build out expertise in a particular area such as doctors, food service, customer support or shuttle bus drivers. Another reason is a need for temporary workers when there is a sudden spike in workload or to cover for an employee who is on leave.
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>> Contract workers tend to fill more "grind it out type roles" that need manpower or less senior roles
>> workers with jobs in higher wages are more likely to have their services contracted out than jobs associated with lower wages. Such "alternative" work arrangements are becoming more common among older and more educated workers.
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In an effort of course to break the trust between labor and management and save money on retirement programs.
Um... it's not just Silicone Valley (Score:2)
Thing is, what are we (/. techies) gonna do about it? Nobody wants to vote for strong worker protections. It pisses us off when somebody abuses them. So we'd rather give them up for ourselves than risk somebody else getting them.
If you want this to change you're going to need help from the government. By ourselves we're too weak.
Does not dodge taxes (Score:5, Insightful)
It lowers tech wages too since you don't have long term employment. Plus it dodges taxes.
Hi, consultant here. I don't see it lowering wages, or dodging taxes.
That's because if you want short term help, a company will mostly be paying HIGHER wages than they would real employees. And those employees (or a consulting firm) will be paying all those taxes you think are somehow being "dodged". Which is why the wages are higher...
Re: Does not dodge taxes (Score:1)
i do ninja work (contracted to fix one thing anderen go away) and see this all the time, employees with minimum wage are burned without compensation, work hours stealed and pinned down with micromanagement, staffing is the worst.
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I'm sure I am not understanding something correctly, but I was under the impression healthcare in Canada was free. How is it you spend $600 a month on healthcare? I could see if you had premiums, were actively going to physical therapy multiple times a week and had numerous prescriptions you needed to fill, but isn't that part of free healthcare that Canada provides?
I only ask because while I only have my wife and I to cover, she does go to PT bi-weekly but we don't spend half as much on healthcare. We don'
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$600/month for dental is insane. Because it's usually negotiated separately here in the states, the uninsured cost comes out to $600... in a year. And that's if some non-surgical work needs doing (fillings, etc). So unless you have a family of 12 you might be overpaying a smidge there...
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Ah, at least you're getting your money's worth. I've gotten a lot of work done (wisdom teeth removal, caps, fillings) now that it's included with my current job (no additional cost or co-pays). The 5 years of deferred maintenance before then took a toll on the 'ol chompers, though (I couldn't even afford the low out of pocket).
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I got nearly 30% raise to go permanent. After 15 years of contracting.
They're lying to you.
They are not lying (Score:2)
At most of the places I've contracted for, I know what the employees make and know what I make.
I assure you, I make more than the employees - sometimes am offered a permanent position, but it's always at a lower rate because I would get "benefits".
I don't doubt what you are saying but it really means you should have set contracting rates a lot higher, or increased them through the years.
That's because you're a consultant (Score:2)
The problem isn't actual contract gigs or consultancies. The problem is when the company hires contractors to do stuff like tech support of key, long running products or monitoring of base systems. That's the bulk of your "contractors". It's the IT equivalent of U
Still doesn't dodge taxes though. (Score:2)
It is true there are two different kinds of contracting for sure, and in some cases like the ones you mentioned maybe the wages can be lower for what is kind of unskilled programming work...
However like I said, in those cases taxes are still not being evaded, the consulting firm providing the workers is paying the taxes for them (since that was the original point of discussion).
I have seen some people use that lower platform as a way to actually become more a real worker... but you have to have drive to do
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It's a quick and easy way to get H1-B workers for one thing.
The US issues a fixed number of H1-B visas each year. Whether those people work as direct employees or employees of a contractor makes no difference. The number is the same.
It lowers tech wages too
No it doesn't. It increases wages. It lowers non-wage benefits.
you don't have long term employment.
Many of the people discussed in TFA are regular W2 employees working for a contracting company, not individual contractors.
Plus it dodges taxes.
No it doesn't. The taxes net out the same. It just shifts who pays them.
Nobody wants to vote for strong worker protections.
No, not stronger, nor better. Just different. In many ways, 1099 workers
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Re:Um... it's not just Silicone Valley (Score:5, Interesting)
LOL. Do you really think that Google contracts out more than half of its workforce so that it can pay them anywhere near $200+/hour?
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Right. I'm sure that more than half of Google's workforce is pulling down $400K per year.
The place must be like Lake Wobegon, where all the women are strong, all the men are good-looking, and all the workers are in the top 1%.
But back to reality. Here's a hint for you, which you would probably already know if your story were true: Most contract employees work for middlemen and make jack shit.
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_everybody_ does this.
For the past 30+ years, all the local manufacturing jobs use "temp agencies" for new workers. They do get hired on as real employees after 90 days. But it is generally not possible in many trades to participate in the economy as an employee without first being a contractor. And you might have to stand out as a great and loyal worker while merely a contractor to even get considered as an employee.
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Contract work has specific requirements and can be useful and lucrative. I have made good money in contract work. However many young managers do not know the l
Both parties quite guilty (Score:3)
BOTH parties do in practice. GOP only gives curbing undocumented workers lip-service. Biz bribes GOP to not do anything because they want cheap labor. (Bribery is via campaign donations.) And Democrats tried to hire more border guards roughly 4 years ago and were blocked by GOP, citing debt concerns. (Now GOP doesn't seem to care about debt.)
As far as the "violence", you are cherry-picking incidents and individua
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As far as the "violence", you are cherry-picking incidents and individuals. I can do the same with conservatives.
No you can't.
Steve Scilise was shot
8 other GOP members were shot at in same incident
Rand Paul's ribs were broken
Rand Paul was attacked at airport and has been given death threats
Sarah Sanders was attacked going out to eat
Ted Cruz was attacked going out to eat, twice
Mitch McConnel was attacked going out to eat
One GOP candidate was attacked with a knife at an event
Response from DNC. Maxine Waters says to do more of it, Corey Booker says do more of it, Eric Holder says to do more of it.
Show me DNC members bei
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Yip, the Drama-Knob is cranked to "11" on that guy. Mitch's take-out carton was violently attacked. Commie Animals!
I was going to list conservative-based attacks and threats as a counter, but it won't likely do any good: he's stuck in a mode.
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Hey Cherrypick Bob,
Right on cue, your "fireworks" buddy is making news with mail to about 4 Dems and to Orangeman's favorite news org.
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If you are going to bring back 19th century immigration rules, I want my 19th century social plans and tax rates back as well. Open boarders would be a lot more viable if we didn't have to pay for healthcare, education, housing and food for everyone that shows up. That's why it doesn't work.
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Let's bring land grants back too. Oh, wait, there's no more free land left to give out? Maybe this place isn't what it was in the 19th century. Maybe we're full. I'd like all the basic shit that was cut from public schools added back before we open the flood gates any further.
They use us like a toilet then throw us away (Score:2, Insightful)
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Full time employees can be fired just as easily as a contractor.
Legally, employees can be fired for almost any reason, or for no reason, at any time. But psychologically it is difficult to sit down with a worker who has a family and a mortgage, and tell them to their face that they are fired. So managers tend to avoid or delay firing people, even when it is against the best interest of the business.
It is much easier to just let a contract expire.
If you want a raise, change jobs.
Indeed. A typical annual raise is about 5%. In tech, the median salary boost from changing jobs is about 20%. To maximize
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Full time employees can be fired just as easily as a contractor.
Legally, employees can be fired for almost any reason, or for no reason, at any time. But psychologically it is difficult to sit down with a worker who has a family and a mortgage, and tell them to their face that they are fired. So managers tend to
... hire HR staff to do that part. Once they decide you're out the door, telling HR should mean the person making the decision doesn't have to deal with the full psychological stresses. And the HR person isn't the one making the decision, so they shouldn't feel the same stress; it is already decided and out of their hands. They're just doing the paperwork.
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While true, companies are still usually composed of humans making decisions. Companies are less likely to fire permanent position individuals because they've typically been through more vetting, training and personal development, tend to carry more responsibilities, and the company has invested more in them. This is not rational behavior, mind you, just another form of sunk cost fallacy, but it still plays a part. Companies tend to work much harder to 'make it work' with perm employees than the contractors
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"My rate is increasing ______ starting on the __th day of ______ month."
Done.
What you need is to do is take a class on negotiation at the local community college. As a contractor, you're in charge. If you're not, you're doing it wrong.
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Presumably the rate is in the... well, contract. A well run business will have a plan to counter such tactics at contract renewal time.
Of course not many are that prepared, and it's entirely possible they were either foolish enough to allow the rate to be variable, or (more likely) are royally screwed if they don't renew your contract, and yes at that point you have them by the balls.
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Well, if they aren't smart enough to make the increase happen at contract renewal time, they should really think about getting a "real job." lol
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If the client likes you they can have the contracting company over the barrel. It can be as simple as "well, we really like person X. The previous people you sent were borderline useless. If we can't have him, maybe we don't need this position at all". Halving their cut to increase person X's pay makes more business sense than calling client's bluff...
In my experience, it's a management problem (Score:5, Insightful)
The vast majority of the times I've seen a company use contract workers, it's a management problem.
Manger has work that needs to be done, and all existing employees are busy. This work is not some sort of short-term bump in the road, there will be work for years.
Manager asks for another employee.
Executives and/or HR say "No", because it would violate some arbitrary rule on number of employees or number of direct reports or something similar.
However, the manager is allowed to hire a contractor at 150% the cost of an employee, because that doesn't violate the arbitrary rule. Contractor ends up as de-facto employee, and everyone desperately hopes that doesn't bite them in the ass.
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The thing is it solves everyone's problem in the short run, on the false premise that during this time with extra resources you'll become more efficient so by the end of the contract they'll be redundant. The manager gets staff to fix the immediate problem. Manager+1...n didn't sign off on a permanent expansion. Kick the can down the road and hopefully it's not your problem next time.
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Manager asks for another employee.
Executives and/or HR say "No", because it would violate some arbitrary rule on number of employees or number of direct reports or something similar.
However, the manager is allowed to hire a contractor at 150% the cost of an employee, because that doesn't violate the arbitrary rule.
The rule isn't arbitrary. The employees only have to follow directions, and you need somebody giving those directions. A contractor is, or should be, or at least might be, an independent expert who doesn't need a lot of directions. They only need documentation of the business and technical needs of the project. That's why paying them more than an employee is allowed, even when the manager already is giving directions to the max number of people they're considered able to supervise.
As a contractor, I'm respo
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A contractor is, or should be, or at least might be, an independent expert who doesn't need a lot of directions
And here's the point where you didn't read the last sentence in my post, making everything you're talking about here moot.
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A contractor is, or should be, or at least might be, an independent expert who doesn't need a lot of directions
And here's the point where you didn't read the last sentence in my post, making everything you're talking about here moot.
Nope. That's how weak your claim was; it is refuted merely by my opinion! Whoopsie. lol You choose your words, don't bother trying to choose mine. That's a task for some sort of pushy Sisyphus. I'm not sure what you'd get out of it, but I know you'd be systemically prevented from ever having success.
In the end though, you probably just didn't comprehend what I said, so you didn't comprehend that rather than mooting it, it was a basic premise repeated in my words. Notice that I said, "That's why paying them
When it's done at scale it's not management (Score:2)
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The 150% cost is still less than paying the various benefits and taxes to the employee
The 150% includes that. It's not like the staffing firm does not have costs when their employee works as a contractor.
Plus upper management likes being able to fire on a moments notice if they need a quick stock bump. Most jurisdictions require a few months notice.
Zero in the US do. And since Silicon Valley is the subject of the story, US rules would seem to be the most relevant.
They aren't the root of the problem. (Score:5, Interesting)
However, I like it fine because I'm disabled. I get government money to help me along when my paycheck isn't enough, and I get (currently) zero copay healthcare from the state I live in.
People worry quite alot that small businesses are dying, because many kinds of them are. The "mom and pop" store can't do shit against Amazon. The thing is, Silicon Valley startups are also small businesses, and the fact they sometimes manage to sucker in venture capitalists sometimes doesn't make them not small businesses. They're 3-5 dudes who know how to code who have an idea about how use code to make something easier or more marketable. Because they're paying Silicon Valley rent, they can't afford real employees until such time as they do happen to land that VC money. Even then, that money isn't theirs to fuck around with, and I'm sure the field is littered with startups that were too good to too many people.
The upshot of this is that the kind and amount of work that is best available today isn't enough to sustain a person by itself, and it's not solely because of exploitative employers. This is why universal healthcare and universal basic income will be important ideas going forward. The commodification of labor isn't going to be around forever, and while it persists, it's going to change alot. More automation means more people who do work at all do it the way I do. I can tolerate this arrangement because I basically already have the benefits of universal healthcare and basic income. I'd like them to be universal. People need to be free of the fear of homelessness and starvation for work to legitimately be anything but slavery. I want other people to be free the way I am, and I'd like them to not need to be some kind of cripple to get it.
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Which company is this? I am also disabled and cannot find a job. :(
Re: They aren't the root of the problem. (Score:2)
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Ahh, freelancer type of job.
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"precisely because I don't cost them anything when I'm not working."
In my experience most of these tech companies still pay you a standard 40hr minimum week regardless.
Re: They aren't the root of the problem. (Score:2)
Currently, that isn't the case. The structure of the disability program is such that working part-time is a significant risk that I'm still waiting to see the precise form of. My master does give me an order: "live in poverty." I disobey it at my peril.
If the only string that income came with were that it requires a source, it'd be a different matter. A matter of tax reform, which we also need.
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If my "master" doesn't tell me to do anything, how are they not simply my benefactor?
The cat thinks she's the master of the house until her kittens are given away. If you can't live without the monthly check from X, X can become your master whenever they decide to.
Re: They aren't the root of the problem. (Score:2)
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As soon as someone needs your check, you own them. Doesn't matter that they didn't need your check before you started giving it to them. People will disregard other opportunities which could have been liberating if your check is easier.
Re: They aren't the root of the problem. (Score:2)
That sector of the market h
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Sometimes its easier to hire overseas contractors (Score:3)
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This makes little sense; overseas firms want their consultants staffed on a project just as much as US ones
I'm guessing the headhunters in parent poster's US contractor firm function as something like temporary contractors themselves as well -- the headhunter's goals are much shorter-term than the corporation they work for.
Maybe they even get a commission (which is a terrible incentive structure that ensures their goals don't align with the customers').
Its the economy stupid.. (Score:1)
'The U.S. jobless rate dropped to 3.7 percent in September, the lowest since 1969'
Guess Trump gets a second term?
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Nope, this is the result of Obama's policies. Obama was clever enough to make sure that the real results of his policies did not really kick in until two years after he was out of office.
The military ... (Score:5, Interesting)
... shares a similar dark secret.
There are more contractors hired by the military than there are actual military headcount.
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Because you spent 9 years in the military and you're dismissing the Sea Bees and all of IT, right?
Nothing secret about this. (Score:3)
This is why we need to kill H1B progran and instead increase the greencards. In addition, we need to require that anybody that comes to America on a tech visa, not be allowed to contract out for say 5 years. IOW, they can work for contract shop for 5 years.
Seen this in the UK for a while... (Score:2)
In recent years, I'm more familiar with the UK labor (um...labour) market than the US, and there the situation has really developed into a class-based society. You have the "nobility", who have jobs with benefits. And you have the "serfs" who are technically "temps" - short-term contract positions with no benefits. I know of cases where only upper management are actually employees - everyone else, from middle management on down, is a temp.
The advantages of this are obvious, at least to pointy-haired types:
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Difference between employee and contractor (Score:2)
Uber driver, picking his own hours, driving his own car and even to some extent choosing the route to drive - contractor.
Cube dweller payed $150/hr, working 9 to 5, using a company computer - employee.
Most western governments use degree of control/independence as the measure for employee
a gig is not a job (Score:1)
Workaround for 'only rockstar ninja' hiring. (Score:2)
At least at a couple of those firms mentioned (Alphabet, Facebook), they've boxed themselves into a crazy level of "only the best" multi-day intense interviews hiring. Can't remember every IPv6 header on a whiteboard? Can't rattle your Linux syscalls for a SRE job? Don't fully know the internals of a dictionary in Python? Don't have any TEDx talks? Out the door. Meanwhile, they backfill a lot of those very same roles with contractors who, while they don't last as long, don't go through *near* the rigor in
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They're also a good "try before you buy" option, where they directly hire the best of the contractors after seeing how well things go for a few years. The huge companies (and governments) basically point at contract companies' non-compete section where the contractor can't work directly for the client for x years, laugh, and say "yeah strike that or not a penny of our multi-million dollar contracts will go through you".
You mean like Uber? (Score:2)
Not really surprising. Google and Co. are large computers with large pieces of software on them - not much more. What are humans supposed to do in that context? Come up with Google Chat App #11? The novelty effect of silicon valley is wearing off and two decades from now the party will be in the far east or somewhere else. This is just how things like this go.
Mercenaries are useful (Score:2)
Company that rhymes with Hell (Score:1)
In what way is this secret? (Score:1)
This has been common practice at every high tech company I've worked at over the last 30 years. They all had a mix of permanent and contract employees.
There are any number of reasons to do this, some good, some misguided. It's like buying versus leasing a car, or buying versus renting a home. Depending on the circumstances, you might want a temporary relationship.
My expierence (Score:2)
Re:Before you commies get you panties in a bunch (Score:5, Interesting)
Perhaps you could explain why it's a good thing first.
And if you use the words "self-employed", you are disqualified. >90% of these contractors work for staffing firms.
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Re:Before you commies get you panties in a bunch (Score:5, Interesting)
I see the gig economy as an opportunity for older tech workers like me. Most companies don't want to hire a near-60-something as a permanent employee, but have no problems with signing me to a contract. I'm not ready to retire yet, but I do have, to quote a movie, "...are a very particular set of skills. Skills I have acquired over a very long career."
Most companies need my particular skills for a big project maybe up to a year, two at the outside. At the end, I train a lower-paid permanent employee to manage things, then I move on having added whatever new skills I picked up during the gig to my resume. Since it's always a short-term gig with a deadline, I can charge extortionate hourly rates and work lots of overtime and everybody's happy. Then I can add another blurb to my resume "Implemented widget sorting system at BigCo" and add another 5 bucks an hour to my rate. Win-win.
I do work for a staffing firm. It's sort of a pimp-hooker-john relationship. They're my pimp and do a good job of finding me another john (job) when I'm done with the current contract.
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And in the meantime, take 50% to 75% of your rate, and provide you with really crappy benefits.
Re:Before you commies get you panties in a bunch (Score:5, Interesting)
If that is the case, then you either are not good at negotiating your rates/work rules with the contracting house....or you don't know enough about the business to know to move onto the next one.
One thing to do, however, is to incorporate yourself, it is much easier to contract as an individual 1009 if you are incorporated and do corp-to-corp. Contracting 1099 to an individual scares the shit out of companies, as they can get stung like MS did years back by contractors coming back to sue to claim employee-hood.
If you incorporate, even the contract houses will often work with you and take a smaller finders fee cut....sometimes just a cut for first few months of contract, then, the whole bill rate is yours.
This can be a lucrative business, but you have to put on your "big boy" pants, and learn to manage yourself, promote yourself, do paperwork, taxes AND how to budget your negotiated bill rate to cover your pay, time off, and retirement funds yourself.
It isn't rocket surgery, but along with higher dollars and more freedom, comes more personal responsibility.
The job market isn't as good as you think it is (Score:3)
Workers have lost virtually all bargaining power in the global economy. It's why Donald Trump is our president. He ran o
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Well, if that's all that company is wanting to offer, I'd not want to work for them.
There ARE plenty of other opportunities out there, right now it is mo
If there are all these opportunities (Score:1)
I'm not buying the productivity numbers either. Tesla became a top 5 car dealer in less than 10 years. That's crazy. Manufacturing output continues to rise with less workers.
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I find that when I figure my hourly rate as a 1099 after doing all of that, I fall below minimum wage.
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And in the meantime, take 50% to 75% of your rate, and provide you with really crappy benefits.
10% - 20% is far more common.
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When the pimp is making $700/hr, I sure bloody well do.
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The game fails though if you're allowed to say "gig economy" but not "union."
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Depending on the industry this can be good, or extremely bad.
It also depends on the long term goals of the individuals, companies, and societies at large.
I work as an engineering consultant. We have an older colleague who does exactly what you describe. He comes in to work on some heavy hitting projects and then he's out the door.
This is great for us as a consulting company, it works well for our clients and solves the immediate problem.
The bigger issue is the other side to my collegues story. He used to
Your assuming they won't hire the 60 year old (Score:2)
There is one big advantage to a contract when hiring 60 year olds: You can fire them and hire somebody younger and it's not age discrimination, it's just that their contract was up, and they just happened to give a guy in his 20s the permanent position.
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Re:Before you commies get you panties in a bunch (Score:5, Insightful)
The more they pay for an opinion, the more weight they place on it.
Which is why I have the clients best interests at heart when I extort...er...negotiate my rate. It's so they get full value, if I let them get away with paying me less, they'd be liable to ignore my advice.
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How about RETIREMENT? They're replacing the workers who traditionally earn the most, putting more stress on the already overburdened Social Security system when these people are forced to retire due to illness.
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Illegal aliens. They are doing this to hire illegal aliens. There is no e-verify for illegal alien contractors.