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US Secret Service Warns ID Thieves are Abusing USPS's Mail Scanning Service (krebsonsecurity.com) 80

Brian Krebs reports: A year ago, KrebsOnSecurity warned that "Informed Delivery," a new offering from the U.S. Postal Service (USPS) that lets residents view scanned images of all incoming mail, was likely to be abused by identity thieves and other fraudsters unless the USPS beefed up security around the program and made it easier for people to opt out. This week, the U.S. Secret Service issued an internal alert warning that many of its field offices have reported crooks are indeed using Informed Delivery to commit various identity theft and credit card fraud schemes.

The internal alert -- sent by the Secret Service on Nov. 6 to its law enforcement partners nationwide -- references a recent case in Michigan in which seven people were arrested for allegedly stealing credit cards from resident mailboxes after signing up as those victims at the USPS's Web site. According to the Secret Service alert, the accused used the Informed Delivery feature "to identify and intercept mail, and to further their identity theft fraud schemes."

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US Secret Service Warns ID Thieves are Abusing USPS's Mail Scanning Service

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  • by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <drink@hyperlogos.org> on Friday November 09, 2018 @10:07AM (#57616858) Homepage Journal

    They only give you photos of your flat mail. Packages don't seem to get photographed, ever, even just padded envelopes. So the stuff I want most to know about, they don't tell me about.

    • by AvitarX ( 172628 )

      They accumulate all of your tracking numbers which is nice.

      Sometimes if I see something from the city I know to actually take my mail in.

    • by omnichad ( 1198475 ) on Friday November 09, 2018 @10:58AM (#57617118) Homepage

      They don't photograph the package, but they do give you all the tracking numbers - even if the seller/shipper didn't.

    • I disagree. Amazon tells me if I have packages.

      This tells me if it's worth my time to walk to the mailbox.

      • Amazon tells me if I have packages.
        This tells me if it's worth my time to walk to the mailbox.

        In my case, it's drive to the mailbox. If I'm expecting something it usually has a tracking number, and if not then I scoop it up when I drive by. But what I really want to know about from the USPS is whether any of the few PO box deliverable packages in the world have turned up, and which ones. Most of those I get are some fluffy little packet of nothingness from HK or China and many of them lack meaningful tracking.

    • " So the stuff I want most to know about, they don't tell me about."

      That's the way the Government works.

    • They only give you photos of your flat mail. Packages don't seem to get photographed, ever, even just padded envelopes. So the stuff I want most to know about, they don't tell me about.

      I'm sure they get photographed too, they (apparently) just don't send you those with this service.

    • As far as the daily email showing your coming mail is concerned, it only shows a portion of it. If you want to see all the photos they have of your mail you have to log in to their website, which IMO misses the point of getting an email showing your incoming mail in the first place. And even if you log in, they often only have photos for half your incoming mail (at our place anyway).

      Given that they've also started embedding ads in with the daily email, the service has been losing its appeal to me -- whic
    • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

      They only give you photos of your flat mail. Packages don't seem to get photographed, ever, even just padded envelopes. So the stuff I want most to know about, they don't tell me about.

      Most likely because flat mail is automatically sorted and scanned through the system. And part of that automation is... taking a photo of the envelope and analyzing it for the address and other important details.

      The only change here is that instead of discarding those photos, USPS saves them for you as a service.

      Parcels and o

    • It also works intermittently. Some days it'll show you the scans. Other days it will tell you you have X pieces of mail on its way, but it won't show you any scans.
  • by necro81 ( 917438 ) on Friday November 09, 2018 @10:36AM (#57617018) Journal
    Groundskeeper Willie says "I warned ya [youtube.com]!"
  • Can someone remind me again why the USPS seems to have a cash flow problem? I mean, if there was plenty of money to around inside the USPS I'm sure that things like this would be more likely to be fixed.

    • Here's your reminder [cnbc.com].

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Republicans: starve the beast, run up the debt, divert as much of the treasury as possible into corporate welfare and subsidies

      Nothing new here. The postal budget was ripe for plundering.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Can someone remind me again why the USPS seems to have a cash flow problem? I mean, if there was plenty of money to around inside the USPS I'm sure that things like this would be more likely to be fixed.

      Congress has regularly raided the USPS's coffers for the last 30 years, but in 2006 G.W. Bush required that they pre-fund the full expected value of their retirement accounts (about $55-$70 billion) up front costing them $5.5 to $5.8 billion every year since 2007.

      All other federal agencies are allowed to invest a smaller amount each year under the assumption that those investments will grow to meet their final needs, much like regular folks do with their 401(k) and IRA's.

      • by guruevi ( 827432 )

        Perhaps you remember why people should be funding their retirement accounts - because people are bad at managing money that doesn't "do" anything and then you get situations where a company (or a bank in case of GWB) fails and the retirement funds get raided along the way.

        Even commercial retirement accounts are supposed to have the entire expected value available at all times. Sure there are ways to doctor the numbers and invest, but the investments have to be non-risky, something the USPS and many others f

      • by Agripa ( 139780 )

        Congress has regularly raided the USPS's coffers for the last 30 years, but in 2006 G.W. Bush required that they pre-fund the full expected value of their retirement accounts (about $55-$70 billion) up front costing them $5.5 to $5.8 billion every year since 2007.

        All other federal agencies are allowed to invest a smaller amount each year under the assumption that those investments will grow to meet their final needs, much like regular folks do with their 401(k) and IRA's.

        Nothing changed. The USPS retirement funds buy U.S. treasuries putting the money exactly where Congress can get to it. The fund is composed of IOUs.

  • I moved a few years ago and haven't updated my address on usps.com. Apparently USPS turned on Informed Delivery automatically for me - so I can see all mail delivered to my old address. How cool and creepy is that!

    What prevents me from entering in any random address? Do they send a postcard to the address stating "your mail is being monitored" ??

    I used to travel on business a lot and used the website to stop / start my mail when on extended trips. I forgot I had an account until today! How many other

    • Authentication (Score:4, Informative)

      by XXongo ( 3986865 ) on Friday November 09, 2018 @11:07AM (#57617172) Homepage

      What prevents me from entering in any random address?

      "knowledge based authentication".

      They ask you a question that, supposedly, only the resident of the address can answer. Krebs says that this is pretty weak security.

      Article didn't say what kind of question that is, but a hint comes from the fact that if you freeze your Equifax credit rating, they can't ask the question. So it seems to be something that Equifax knows.

      Do they send a postcard to the address stating "your mail is being monitored" ??

      Didn't you read the article? That was the whole point: no, they don't.

      • One more reason to freeze one's credit. Everyone should freeze their credit, and only unlock it for those few days when one actually needs it.
      • I updated my address online to be my current one. It didn't ask any questions, but I did receive an email letting me know changes had been made to my profile.

        I'll wait to see if I get a post-card or something. I know when I created a Forward-my-mail request the Postmaster in my new town sent me a postcard asking Who Lives Here Now? So that they don't start rejecting mail etc.

        But apparently the online edition isn't tied to it as I could, until the other day, still see scanned mail at my old address.

    • > Do they send a postcard to the address stating "your mail is being monitored" ?

      Not useful: the identity thieves could just steal that once they sign up as you.
  • by omnichad ( 1198475 ) on Friday November 09, 2018 @11:02AM (#57617140) Homepage

    The best way to prevent this is to be the first to sign up. That way you are already associated first. If they let allow multiple accounts for one address....well...at least you'll get advance notice when they deliver the activation code for the new account.

    • Screw that. I shouldn't need to create an online account just to protect my mail. Too many online accounts...
      • Of course you shouldn't have to. But that doesn't change the fact that it will help protect you.

        • Freezing your credit is the better way. Not only does this protect you from folks trying to sign you up for Informed Delivery, it also protects you from people opening credit cards, loans, etc in your name.
          • And when a credit card you already have is due to expire, a new one gets mailed out. This helps prevent someone from intercepting it.

          • Freezing your credit is the better way. Not only does this protect you from folks trying to sign you up for Informed Delivery, it also protects you from people opening credit cards, loans, etc in your name.

            The second article (link in the summary) states that "...numerous readers have responded that they were still able to sign up for the service even though they had security freezes in place..." and this typing ptarmigan was able to sign up for the USPS Informed Delivery service (using KBA: Knowledge-Based Authentication) a little while ago even though I have credit security freezes in place.

    • by zilym ( 3470 )

      Bzzt. I just signed up multiple accounts with different email addresses for one mailing address. So far, no notice at all that there are multiple email addresses monitoring the one single mailing address. So, your suggestion that the best way to prevent this is to be the first to sign up is bunk. This is a very flawed system, even the "online verification" questions were super easy to guess. Thanks a lot to USPS for making everyone's (ID thieves) lives easier...

      • I forgot that the welcome letter does not include an activation code and that they verify only with the online info. Still, at least you'd know if you were missing important mail that day and could get a jump on any fraud that might be happening.

  • ...but we need to actually consider REALLY PUNISHING people?

    I mean, these identity thieves, assuming they're of the vanishingly small % that ever get caught or prosecuted, are going to spend maybe 18 months in a relatively cushy orange-is-the-new-black low security facility?:

    How is that IN ANY WAY a deterrent? It wouldn't be to me, if I decided that's how I wanted to make $.

    And remember, jail isn't just about rehabilitating people (personally, i don't think you can; you can teach them to constrain their be

    • You can't put anyone in jail for this because the jails are full of drug criminals with mandatory minimum sentences. These aren't violent crimes or drug crimes so they are typically released from prison immediately due to overcrowding. On top of this it's a very low priority for law enforcement because there is no property they can seize and then keep the money for themselves like drug crimes.

      Until the war on drugs ends and the perverse system of justice it's created is abolished you won't solve this proble

      • I hate when my fingers miss the contraction.

        Cops are NOT interested in crime that isn't easy to solve and they don't get a kickback from, drug crime does.

  • I didn’t even know this “service” existed. I just signed up for it - not because I want it, but because I didn’t want somebody else to sign up in my place. I’ll probably never look at it.

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