Amazon Rainforest Deforestation 'Worst in 10 Years', Says Brazil (bbc.com) 90
Deforestation of the Amazon rainforest in Brazil has hit its highest rate in a decade, according to official data. BBC reports: About 7,900 sq km (3,050 sq miles) of the world's largest rainforest was destroyed between August 2017 and July 2018 -- an area roughly five times the size of London. Environment Minister Edson Duarte said illegal logging was to blame. The figures come amid concerns about the policies of Brazil's newly elected president, Jair Bolsonaro. During the 2018 election campaign, Mr Bolsonaro pledged to limit fines for damaging forestry and to weaken the influence of the environmental agency. An aide for the president-elect has also announced the administration will merge the agriculture and environment ministries, which critics say could endanger the rainforest. The latest government data says most of the deforestation occurred in the states of Mato Grosso and Para, and marked a 13.7% rise over last year's figures. Mato Grosso is the top producer of grains in Brazil, and critics say expanding agriculture is also encroaching on the rainforest.
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illegal logging was to blame
Time for helicopter gunships, methinks.
The process (Score:4, Insightful)
The first step in deforestation is removing the trees - so the logging companies are the initial scapegoats. Once the land is cleared, they can start raising cattle for beef sales - which is what 90% of the deforested Amazon is used for.
Beef eaters are funding the deforestation one purchase at a time: -
https://www.globalmeatnews.com/Article/2018/01/18/Brazilian-beef-exports-keep-on-growing
Re:The process:Palm Oil Industries (Score:3, Informative)
The Amazon's new danger: Brazil sets sights on palm oil
https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/jun/29/brazil-palm-oil-amazon-rainforest-deforestation-temer-farming-para-cerrado
Brazil’s ambition to become a palm oil giant could have devastating social and environmental impacts if the move is not carefully managed, say experts
Jorge Antonini takes a palm kernel in his hands and slices it open. Squeezing it between his fingers, the kernel oozes the oily liquid found in hundreds of everyday p
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I'm not sure this is accurate. First, as any woodworker can tell you, the alleged logging isn't making Brazilian hardwood better available or less expensive. Second, as carnivores can tell you, beef isn't becoming less expensive
Neither of those follows from the premise. It's all about profit, not lowering prices or improving product.
nor is Brazil a prime source for best quality beef.
Again: It doesn't follow that they'd be selling it to your local supplier.
Re: The process (Score:3)
Again: It doesn't follow that they'd be selling it to your local supplier.
By far the biggest seller of rainforest beef over the years has been McDonald's. Reply Share
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What matters is that Brazil is clearing their forest and they are doing it because Hong Kong, China and Europe are buying so very much.
Caffeinated Bacon/Crimson Tsunami is at it again (Score:2)
Yet, you continue to blame America for this????? PLEASE.
Even earlier you pointed to America's per capita eating, while ignoring the fact that Hong Kong has DOUBLE what America consumes.
Caffeinated Bacon, you are a true idiot and a liar, to boot.
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What matters is that Brazil is clearing their forest and they are doing it because Hong Kong, China and Europe are buying so very much.
No, they are doing it because they are corrupt. They could say "no". Instead their politicians are saying "pay me". Brazil is well-overdue for a revolution.
Bullshit (Score:2, Interesting)
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So yeah. Some of these nations really are irresponsible in supporting this kind of operations.
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It's kinda the other way around.
Those "farms" are just a decoy for the purpose of illegally selling expensive wood you find there. The terrain of the amazon forest is actually quite bad for planting and stuff.
The literal criminals that do this, the "grileiros" falsify land ownership documents, cut down the trees, sells em, and just keep a shitty barely functional cattle farm due legalese.
So, if you make the legal system actually work in brazil, you stop the grileiros and you stop the deforesting.
Tenuous connections here... (Score:2)
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-1 Stupid
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30+ years of "THE SKY IS FALLING!" consistently proving false
Ever think the regs in place slowed "the sky is falling" ? But if you are young enough you may very well see it happening as these regs worldwide weakened
I remember coal soot covering the all houses in my town once per week when the chimneys of the mills were cleaned overnight. Many kids could not breath the following day and most of these kids were kept in, and yes that was in the US. Imagine how things would be if that was allowed to continue ?
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So like the bullshit over the Y2K supposed problem. All that money and effort put in and then nothing happened, what a waste of resources.
Re:Populist leader who puts business 1st environme (Score:5, Insightful)
This seems to be a world-wide trend. What is driving it?
The usual: Greed and profit
A handful of worthless people will get mega-rich, the planet (and everybody's future) will get a lot poorer.
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If Trump can claim credit for economic recovery under Obama ....
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Re: Tenuous connections here... (Score:3)
Re: Tenuous connections here... (Score:2)
I donâ(TM)t support anyone who is okay with deficit spending.
Re:Tenuous connections here... (Score:4, Insightful)
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The figures come amid concerns about the policies of Brazil's newly elected president, Jair Bolsonaro.
The summary clearly implies it. It's pre emotive blame. I have no idea who this guy is but my bet is he's not popular with the media establishment because he represents the people.
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No, it "implied" nothing. It clearly stated that Bolsonaro's announced policies are likely to make this problem worse:
During the 2018 election campaign, Mr Bolsonaro pledged to limit fines for damaging forestry and to weaken the influence of the environmental agency. An aide for the president-elect has also announced the administration will merge the agriculture and environment ministries
This is not a strategy to fix the problem. But you seem to have a problem with people mentioning that fact.
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At first I thought it was about Amazon book sales (Score:2)
in a year, 79% of one wildfire in California over a few days in terms of destruction of areas.
Biomass lost should be compared and contrasted.
Seems like a double whammy, burning, plus loss of plant life.
Is there a carbon tax on Brazil?
math fails you (Score:1)
so basically a square 55 miles on each side.
that's small, tiny. put that on a map of Brazil and get some perspective, you fucking math illiterates.
talk about mountains out of molehills
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The issue is the illegal logging and clearing.
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fine then let's have article about that but not this 55 mile squared postage stamp
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Why do you hate poor Brazilians?
Has your nation reserved 80% of its land as nation wilderness?
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here is your map, as you can see deforestation plummeting since 2003...
so, no problem
https://imgur.com/a/6wNGzsZ [imgur.com]
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Oops, I I guess I didn't realize that either :/
I'll just blame it on coming from a small country :) It is indeed insignificant.
Meh, their choice. (Score:2)
The most advanced nations of the planet mostly deforested their nations too. Europe has basically nothing left of the old growth forests outside of some small preserves. The US has a smaller percentage of forest than Brazil and two third of that is fucking timberland ...
So lets not be sanctimonious here, they are in economic dire straits and they need the agricultural land and timber. It's not like anyone is standing up and offering them a couple trillion dollar to buy up most of the Amazon as an official p
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The most advanced nations of the planet mostly deforested their nations too. Europe has basically nothing left of the old growth forests outside of some small preserves. The US has a smaller percentage of forest than Brazil and two third of that is fucking timberland ...
Yes, but we're smarter now. We're not supposed to be repeating those mistakes.
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I don't live there and my standard of living is a lot higher than theirs. I do not vote to share the wealth of my nation with Brazil and I don't expect them to preserve their nature for my benefit.
It's a shame, but it is what it is.
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Deforestation was a big problem in Europe. The wood were cut down to provide wood for building ships, and as well as for use in other industries. After a while few old forests remained.
But the problem was noticed, and starting in Germany there was a shift to a sustainable wood economy. "Sustainability" became a big trend (initiated by Hans Carl von Carlowitz, "Silvicultura oeconomica" in 1713). Today 32% of Germany are wood, the EU average is 40%.
Though there are exceptions. It seems sustainability never ca
Death penalty (Score:2)
Wow! (Score:2)
The figures come amid concerns about the policies of Brazil's newly elected president, Jair Bolsonaro.
Bolsonaro is so evil that he traveled in time and has been causing deforestation for decades!
illegal logging my buttocks! (Score:2)
you're going to tell me somebody is illegally chopping up 3 times the size of London without it being noticed?
that's not a few trees here and there they just secretly drag off, something of that size surely must be noticable and you should be able to act on it.