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Worrying Rise in Global CO2 Forecast for 2019 (theguardian.com) 191

Posted by msmash from the closer-look dept.
The level of climate-warming carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere is forecast to rise by a near-record amount in 2019, according to the Met Office. From a report: The increase is being fuelled by the continued burning of fossil fuels and the destruction of forests, and will be particularly high in 2019 due to an expected return towards El Nino-like conditions. This natural climate variation causes warm and dry conditions in the tropics, meaning the plant growth that removes CO2 from the air is restricted. Levels of the greenhouse gas have not been as high as today for 3-5m years, when the global temperature was 2-3C warmer and the sea level was 10-20 metres (32 to 64 feet) higher. Climate action must be increased fivefold to limit warming to the 1.5C rise above pre-industrial levels that scientists advise, according to the UN. But the past four years have been the hottest on record and global emissions are rising again after a brief pause.
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  • Unlikely (Score:5, Funny)

    by 110010001000 ( 697113 ) on Friday January 25, 2019 @11:34AM (#58020928) Homepage Journal
    This is extremely unlikely. The Paris accord was signed in 2016 and is against any rise of Co2 emissions.
  • We get upset at CEOs who only care about the next quarters profits but as a species we rarely look ahead more than a year. Case in point everyone knew the Grand-banks fisheries off Canada's east coast were on the verge of collapse and yet we fished them right up to the point of nearly wiping out the cod there. Canadians dump more than 22 tons of GHG per person into the atmosphere (and BTW that's not counting the rotting pine forests). We beat the Americans by over 10% and yet we are doing almost nothing.

    • We get upset at CEOs who only care about the next quarters profits but as a species we rarely look ahead more than a year. Case in point everyone knew the Grand-banks fisheries off Canada's east coast were on the verge of collapse and yet we fished them right up to the point of nearly wiping out the cod there. Canadians dump more than 22 tons of GHG per person into the atmosphere (and BTW that's not counting the rotting pine forests). We beat the Americans by over 10% and yet we are doing almost nothing. If you can't get a well educated population that actually thinks climate change is a problem to change their ways there is no hope.

      I get that fishing could be stopped but I don't see what the proposed solution to rotting pine forests is. In fact I hadn't heard of the problem but when I researched a few minutes what I think you're refering to is a beetle infestation. But it looks like that is not going to be a problem soon as found here: https://phys.org/news/2016-04-... [phys.org]

  • More nuclear power please. (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward

    I will believe that the governments of the world are taking global warming seriously when they start building nuclear power plants like they did in the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s. There is no power source that is lower in carbon per energy produced except perhaps hydroelectricity. There is nothing safer than nuclear power based on deaths per energy produced.

    Don't tell me that nuclear power is too expensive because the governments of the world are certainly willing to spend gobs of money on worthless wind, so

    • "Don't tell me that nuclear power is too expensive because the governments of the world are certainly willing to spend gobs of money on worthless wind, solar, and other "green" energy. They are also certainly willing to spend gobs of money fighting over the scraps of carbon left on the table."

      Green energy is not worthless. And the idea that it is heavily subsidised is out of date -- Coal, for example, in the US is subsidised and most of it would not be viable without.

      You are right about nuclear power in oth

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by sfcat ( 872532 )

        Green energy is not worthless. And the idea that it is heavily subsidised is out of date -- Coal, for example, in the US is subsidised and most of it would not be viable without.

        You are right about nuclear power in other ways, I think. There is a case for it. But, it's probalby too late now. Nuclear power plants take a long time develop and much of the energy grid is being re-worked so not require single large sources (i.e. make it better for renewables).

        Guess we are all dead then. Green energy isn't worthless...there is just far too little of it and its always in the wrong place at the wrong time. The reason folks argue for nuclear is that its the only solution that scales. If you are confused about this fact, do some math and see what it would take to make even an 80% renewable power generation. Then remember that there is another problem called fuel production that is just as big as electricity and can ONLY be solved with nuclear. That's why when fo

        • Maybe. But, green energy production has grown massively and consistently out performs expectations for its growth. Nuclear technology has not. It's difficult to argue that it scales; theoretically, yes, but in practice no.

  • Talk to China...ours (US) are going down.

    I'm looking forward to my property values going up as the beach will be much closer with a 30ft increase.

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Wrong, ours are not going down, the rate of increase is slowing. I'm looking forward to harvesting the fresh water from your skull like a coconut. Ahh, dystopia, the life Republicans truly deserve.

  • When presented with a problem, you either address the problem or tolerate it and adapt somehow. Im my opinion, climate-deniers have won this battle. We're well past the point of addressing the problem. The consequences are gonna hit, and our species is gonna have to adapt

  • Okay, I can see where putting fossilized carbon back into the atmosphere is a bad thing. Hence the drive to reduce burning of coal, oil, and natural gas (well, except that noone is pushing for that to stop, they're cheering it on).

    But getting excited about burning wood, which was NOT fossilized carbon, but carbon removed over the last few decades????

    C'mon guys. If AGW fanatics want to be taken seriously, at least stick to the science - which is all about putting fossilized carbon back into circulation..

  • Is the temperature rising because of the rising CO2 level or is it vice versa - the CO2 level is rising because of the rising temperature? Why would the temperature be rising? Well - because of the sun activity... Where is the CO2 coming from? The oceans release it as the temperature rises. I heard the above theory I and am genuinely interested - prove it wrong.

    • Sun activity is actually fairly low. The most recent peak was in the 80's, and it's dropped a bit since then. In the same time, temperature has gone up rather dramatically.

      Where is the CO2 coming from? The oceans release it as the temperature rise

      And where did all the CO2 from fossil fuel burning end up ?

      Here's an exercise for you: find the numbers for total amount of oil, coal, and gas that the world has used in the last century. For each of those, calculate how much CO2 is produced by burning them. Add up, and compare total CO2 with increase in atmosphere.

  • Stop all the alarmism. It doesn't matter anymore. Acosio-Cortez has already told us that the world is going to end in 12 years, so what's the point. Live it up people. Party like it's 2029.

  • The West can put pressure on China, India and third world countries by building energy efficient, non-polluting mega-factories in the West that are open to any company that currently outsources manufacturing. There are ways we can reduce CO2. This is one of them. Yes, it will take long term planning. That's something that lazy corporate boards and CEO's don't like doing.

  • The Earths' failsafe plan (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Rick Schumann ( 4662797 ) on Friday January 25, 2019 @03:06PM (#58022658) Journal
    Oh, not to worry, climate-change deniers, religious types, greedy bastards, and whoever else effectively doesn't give a fuck about what happens to the Earth, it's got it's own failsafe plan to save itself: the die-back of the Human species. You people keep going the way all of you are going, and at some point there won't be enough resources to sustain everyone, and there will be a massive die-back of our species, along with the fall of our civilization -- likely hastened by the wars that you'll fight over what usable land and resources are left. So, eventually, the Earth will survive and recover -- but we'll either not be here to see it, or there'll be only a fraction of us left. I won't be here to see that happen, none of us will, but I almost wish I would be just to see the look on the religious zealots' faces when they realize that Zombie Jesus ain't coming to 'take them home' and that they have to live with the mess they've made of things...

    ...or, you can all stop being idiots about this and stop fucking everything up, starting now. Your choice.

  • Time to get serious (Score:3)

    by WillAffleckUW ( 858324 ) on Friday January 25, 2019 @04:15PM (#58023124) Homepage Journal

    And end all fossil fuel depreciation, exemptions, exclusions, and subsidies.

    Everywhere.

    • And that will do NOTHING in time.
      We need a combination of Solar, Wind, Hydro, Geo-thermal, and Nuke power.
  • China is adding 256+ GW of new coal plants to China and another 256+ GW of coal plants to other nations.
    India continues to climb.
    America climbed a bit this year, and will go down after this, but, the question is, how much?

    Amongst all this, are the far lefites that continue to give green lights to China's massive expansion and then at the same time, does all they can to stop the one real solution, which is the use of Nuclear power.
    Until ppl take this SERIOUSLY and understand that REAL SOLUTIONS ARE NE

    • What a surprise, the American apologist blames China to deflect attention away from America.

      Americans are so much more dirty than Chinese it's not even close.
      China could literally burn twice as much coal just to spite you, and their per person CO2 would still be less than yours.
      Just put it all in a big pile and set it on fire. Just for fun. They would still be cleaner than you.

      You already know this of course. Just as you already know America is far far worse than just about every country in the world wh

  • From 1960 to now.

    Have in mind that in 1950 we produced as much CO2 by burning as we breath out now.

  • China and India are main contributors to increase emissions in 2010s. While the Western world actually stabilized emissions, the emissions from these two skyrocketed due to economic boom.

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