Mapping Begins of Lands Lost To North Sea During the Stone Age (theguardian.com) 82
Lost at the bottom of the North Sea almost eight millennia ago following the end of the ice age, a vast land area between England and southern Scandinavia -- the home to thousands of stone age settlers -- is about to be rediscovered by scientists. From a report: Marine experts, scientists and archaeologists have spent the past 15 years meticulously mapping thousands of kilometres under water in the hope of unearthing lost tribes of prehistoric Britain. On Wednesday a crew of British and Belgian scientists set off on their voyage across the North Sea to reconstruct the ancient Mesolithic landscape hidden beneath the waves for 7,500 years. The area was submerged when thousands of cubic miles of sub-Arctic ice started to melt and the sea levels began to rise worldwide at that time.
The ancient country, known as Doggerland, which could once have had great plains with rich soils, formed an important land bridge between Britain and northern Europe. It was long believed to have been hit by catastrophic flooding. Using seabed mapping data the team is planning to produce a detailed 3D chart which will indicate the rivers, lakes, hills and coastlines of the country. Specialist survey ships will take core sediment samples from selected areas to extract millions of fragments of DNA from the area's plants and animals.
The ancient country, known as Doggerland, which could once have had great plains with rich soils, formed an important land bridge between Britain and northern Europe. It was long believed to have been hit by catastrophic flooding. Using seabed mapping data the team is planning to produce a detailed 3D chart which will indicate the rivers, lakes, hills and coastlines of the country. Specialist survey ships will take core sediment samples from selected areas to extract millions of fragments of DNA from the area's plants and animals.
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Welcome to the 20th Century!
Err, yeah. Wait, how do you know about movies then?!?!
I smell a rat.
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Although I think you're largely correct; from what I've learned, before the Doggerland land bridge was gone around 6500 BC, the first genetic ancestors of modern Scandinavians had arrived in Denmark and southernmost Sweden as hunter-gatherers around 15,000 BC. Around 9000 BC, as the mountain ranges were still beneath the glacier, and the Baltic coastline was mostly submerged, they proceeded to spread along the Fennoscandian coastline in a clockwise pattern, as did another culture of hunter-gatherers that ca
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I really want to hear how we were responsible for these settlements and the Bering Straight flooding over
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5 minutes.
For the nth time: human driven climate change is not instead of natural changes in climate. It is in addition to other sources of change.
Human climate change is something that we can measure and understand very well, because we have the measurements of both the input and the output. But, yes, there also was natural climate changes -- the glaciations during the ice age-- that were not human generated.
Re: Climate changes (Score:1, Troll)
It is precisely the fact that the delta between normal warming and human-induced warming is so small that you have to constantly get up on your soapbox and make your case. Spend 5 minutes looking at any of these trends in sea level, and tell me you see a marked difference between industrial and modern times.
YES there is warming.
NO it is not "catastrophic" or even sudden.
Re: Climate changes (Score:2)
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.... [noaa.gov]
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Spend some time in Miami [businessinsider.com], then tell me how mass flooding of infrastructure is not "catastrophic."
And of course it's not sudden, you twit. That's the whole reason that people like you can deny it and others will believe it. "Sudden" in ordinary thinking is nothing like 5 years, much less equipment that is built to last for at least a generation (20-25 years), and infrastr
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The thing is we humans are trying to control the Human caused climate change. Because human caused climate changes is causing changes that are much faster then our natural environment can really adjust to it. We use to live in a world with higher CO2 then we have now, and higher global temperatures. But it took the world thousands of years to get to those levels not under a hundred.
As for many topics, it isn't the change, but the rate of change that hurts you.
I can be on top of a tall building and take t
Re:Climate changes (Score:5, Informative)
No humans lived when the CO2 levels was as high as today.
Homo sapiens did not exists at that time.
Homo hablis did - but there are several species between us.
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We use to live in a world with higher CO2 then we have now, and higher global temperatures.
If "we " refers to humans, then: nope.
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Because human caused climate changes is causing changes that are much faster then our natural environment can really adjust to it
Not really. It's changed faster before.
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How arrogant is it that we didn't expect to walk on the moon, or to fly around the world, or communicate anywhere on the planet in an instant, or to provide food for billions of people, or to eradicate many childhood diseases, or to increase the human lifespan, or to analyze and manipulate the genomes, or to perceive the actual formation of the universe.
Seems to me arrogance, driven by what some perceived that we were incapable of, really helped us
They were warned (Score:1)
When the settlers made all those fires to keep warm and cook food, they were warned that those fires could cause global warming which would destroy their land.
But no, they didn't listen!
Wow, "Doggerland" is a real place (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Wow, "Doggerland" is a real place (Score:5, Funny)
Re: Wow, "Doggerland" is a real place (Score:2)
Re:Wow, "Doggerland" is a real place (Score:5, Informative)
It almost seems like a hoax.
Doggerland (named after the present-day Dogger Bank [wikipedia.org], which is named after a type of fishing boat [wikipedia.org]) is not a hoax: fishermen have indeed found fossils of mammoths, elephants, rhinoceros, lions, boars, a part of the skull of both a 35ky old neanderthal and a 13ky old homo sapiens, as well as paleolithic tools and weapons in the area.
More details on this research project can be found here [naturalsciences.be] and here [naturalsciences.be]. The complete operational plan (pdf) is available here [naturalsciences.be]. The project is carried out by Ghent University (BE) [ugent.be] and the Flanders Marine Institute (BE) [www.vliz.be] in collaboration with Bradford University (UK), Utrecht University (NL), TNO/Deltares (NL), Rijksdienst Cultureel Erfgoed (NL), University of Groningen (NL) and the Belgian Navy.
(I am manager of the North Sea research programmes at the Belgian Federal Science Policy Office [belspo.be] - we are not directly involved in this project, but the researchers are using our research vessel RV Belgica [naturalsciences.be].)
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Good that they'll be mapping it. I hear he's bored. [satwcomic.com]
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It certainly ended for those not prepared.
Doggerland Times (Score:2)
The End is Near!
Stone Age Technology No Match for Rising Wet!
monty (Score:2)
Doggerland, which could once have had great plains with rich soils
And huge ... tracts of land!
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Except they sank in the swamp.
Rubbish (Score:4, Funny)
This is all based on the assumption that the earth is more than 5,000 years old. Poppycock, I say. Utter poppycock!
Now Britain Is (Score:2)
There used to be Dogger land between Britain and Scandinavia... Now Britain IS the land of "Dogging".
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Came here to say this if it hadn't already been said. Perhaps people aren't as aware of the proud tradition of "dogging" across the pond.
In the future (Score:5, Insightful)
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We hope...
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We hope...
You really want Florida Man to be forced to migrate?
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and finding the bones of stubborn Republicans
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Which they'll be doing with or without AGW. We're still in an Ice Age interglacial. Historical "average" temps for the planet are rather higher than the numbers people are screaming about in AGW articles.
But then, humanity has pretty much evolved in an Ice Age...
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I always wanted a pet Sleestak
russians (Score:1)
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Oh, so it was due to the ending of the last ice age and not humans? IE: it was an climate cycle that was to be expected? But wait, that doesn't fit the we humans are all guilty of climate change narrative.
For the (n+1)st time: human driven climate change is not instead of natural changes in climate. It is in addition to other sources of change.
Humans are not the only source of climate change. They are, however, the main source of the climate change that is happening now. It turns out that we know this because we have have very good measurements of both the input and the output. But, yes, there also was natural climate changes -- the glaciations during the ice age-- that were not human generated.
Build a wall ! (Score:1)