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Mozilla Launches GeckoView-Powered Firefox Preview For Android (venturebeat.com) 62

An anonymous reader writes: Mozilla today announced Firefox Preview, a pilot of its new Android browser. Firefox Preview, which is powered by Mozilla's own GeckoView engine, will ultimately replace the current Firefox for Android mobile app "this fall." At the same time, Mozilla has put Firefox Focus for Android development on hold. If you're a developer or just an early adopter, you can download Firefox Preview from Google Play.

On desktop, Firefox is the second most popular browser after Chrome. Firefox holds about 10% desktop market share, according to Net Applications. On mobile, however, Firefox has less than 0.5% share. Despite regular releases alongside the desktop browser over the years, Firefox's mobile share has not improved.

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Mozilla Launches GeckoView-Powered Firefox Preview For Android

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  • by DrXym ( 126579 ) on Thursday June 27, 2019 @12:37PM (#58835320)
    Being able to install an add-on to block ads saves a bunch of bandwidth and CPU. And it's not spying on your usage. And Firefox really is a nice mobile browser besides all that.
    • I agree (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Presence Eternal ( 56763 ) on Thursday June 27, 2019 @12:42PM (#58835350)

      I'm as annoyed as the next person about the recent changes they made to extensions, however an upside to it is that a tremendous number of Firefox addons currently work well or perfectly on their mobile browser. As far as I know this makes firefox mobile by far the most extensible mobile browser.

      Some addons have better configuration pages on mobile than others, but all the ones I actually want at least perform their stated function. They should really work on publicizing that, it's a real killer feature. I won't use this new Firefox mobile if it loses this functionality.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        The thing that worries me about Firefox is its privacy policy.

        Please read it for yourself. [mozilla.org] Don't take my word for it.

        It contains terms like "telemetry", "Google", "SalesForce", and "share", which aren't what I want to see in a privacy policy.

        Firefox can collect and send out far more user data than I would have expected prior to reading its privacy policy.

        I think a lot of other users are naive like I was, thinking that Firefox respects user privacy, when I now think it does not after reading its privacy poli

        • by higuita ( 129722 ) on Thursday June 27, 2019 @01:55PM (#58835868) Homepage

          If you read closely the privacy policy, you find that most of it is related to install time and only to mobile (ie: they want to understand why you install it and what campaign worked, salesforce and IIRC, 2 other external services are just for that), cloud sync and email notification if you accept then, geoip service access (that may be used to track you, but you can also disable it), safebrowsing check to the google service (so the reference to the google terms... and you can also disable it), anonymized metrics ( generic hardware specs and resolution, how many tabs, how many startups, crashes, http1.1 vs http2, tls version, etc plus what GUI features you use, to better understand what can change or should change)

          if you read the terms and understand where they are being applied, they are very clean and one of the best examples of detailed info on everything they can even remotely use to track you, even if anonymized. Most of other web privacy policies are way too generic, obscure and fail to give you any reason on why they do gather that info.

          • If you read closely the privacy policy, you find that most of it is related to install time and only to mobile (ie: they want to understand why you install it and what campaign worked, salesforce and IIRC, 2 other external services are just for that), cloud sync and email notification if you accept then, geoip service access (that may be used to track you, but you can also disable it),

            As someone who has done extensive profiling of all major browsers I disagree.

            Geo location is a good example. The location management options operate independently of geoip service and can only be disabled from about:config. You can go into settings turn off all of the location bits and yet Firefox itself still calls out to geoip lookup URLs within its configuration registry upon request.

            safebrowsing check to the google service (so the reference to the google terms... and you can also disable it), anonymized metrics ( generic hardware specs and resolution, how many tabs, how many startups, crashes, http1.1 vs http2, tls version, etc plus what GUI features you use, to better understand what can change or should change)

            It's the sheer volume of levers and knobs that lead to deaths by a thousand cuts.

            Why can't there simply be a master swit

        • It contains terms like "telemetry", "Google", "SalesForce", and "share", which aren't what I want to see in a privacy policy.

          Firefox can collect and send out far more user data than I would have expected prior to reading its privacy policy.

          I think a lot of other users are naive like I was, thinking that Firefox respects user privacy, when I now think it does not after reading its privacy policy.

          Yes exactly. The sheer number of excuses embedded into Firefox is ridiculous as are the insanely long configuration guides involving poking around in about:config end users must manually follow to achieve something that should be default or at the very least toggled with simple user friendly master switch.

    • Being able to install an add-on to block ads saves a bunch of bandwidth and CPU. And it's not spying on your usage. And Firefox really is a nice mobile browser besides all that.

      In my experience, Firefox mobile is much slower than Chrome mobile even with ads. Being able to block ads doesn't improve performance enough to make up for its inherent slowness.

      That said, I still use Firefox mobile, because the web is unusable without ad blocking.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        In my experience, Chrome mobile is much slower than Firefox mobile even with ads. Being able to block ads doe improve performance enough to make up for its inherent slowness.

        That said, I still use Chrome mobile, because the web is unusable with ad blocking.

      • by roca ( 43122 )

        This article is about the new GeckoView-based Firefox, which is supposed to be faster. You should try it.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Firefox isn't on F-Droid.

  • "On desktop, Firefox is the second most popular browser after Chrome."

    Correction: it is the *only other* browser.

    • by Z00L00K ( 682162 )

      I use Firefox as the main browser both on my desktop and on my phone.

      I haven't seen a need for any other browser.

  • Handles Slashdot better than Samsung Internet or other AOSP browsers, and seems lighter than Chrome.

  • Does is support pinch and zoom like Opera? Not interested until it does.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Once chrome started forcing AMP pages on me, I switched right over to Firefox. Works great.

  • by Sloppy ( 14984 ) on Thursday June 27, 2019 @01:32PM (#58835714) Homepage Journal

    On Android I use Firefox because it's so much better than anything else I've tried, though I've only tried a handful. Chrome was one of them, though, and it lost spectacularly because it doesn't work with things like uBlock and PrivacyBadger, whereas Firefox does. (If anything, this "Firefox Preview" announcement worries me since it sounds like they might be killing off Firefox's main advantages. Not sure.)

    There are other Android browsers than these two, but the numbers really do appear to say that people run Chrome, which I find to be really weird. If you're one of those people who runs Chrome on Android: why? Do you just not care about ad-blocking, or have you figured out a way to make Chrome not suck, or what?

  • by dskoll ( 99328 ) on Thursday June 27, 2019 @04:29PM (#58836704) Homepage

    I gave it a quick spin (I currently use Firefox Beta on Android.) Firefox Preview is very fast and minimalistic. However, it doesn't yet support add-ons. I'll wait until it does and then switch; I have to have Ghostery.

  • I'm happy with the load times, smooth rendering, new bottom-bar UI, and its focus on user privacy and prevention of tracking.

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