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Glassdoor Rankings Find Tech Workplaces Are Less Popular this Year (axios.com) 34

Posted by msmash from the closer-look dept.
Glassdoor, a service that enables current and former employees to anonymously review companies, is out with its annual "best companies to work for" list, and a number of tech names have seen their rankings fall. From a report: One area where the techlash could most harm Big Tech is recruiting and employee retention. Facebook fell to No. 23 from No. 7 among large U.S. firms, making this the first time since 2015 that the company didn't make the top ten. It's worth noting, though, that its 4.4 rating is still well above the 3.5 average, with most employees still happy to work there despite another year of controversy. Google, which landed at No. 11, dropped three spots, while Apple, at No. 84, dropped 13 positions. Employees rated the company high for compensation and benefits, but lower in senior leadership, citing bureaucracy and poor work-life balance. Microsoft, meanwhile, rose 13 places to rank at No. 21.
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  • Norm MacDonald voice.. (Score:5, Funny)

    by RightSaidFred99 ( 874576 ) on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @04:35PM (#59509656)
    "And for the second year in a row, working in tech is the second worst job. Number one? Crack Whore."

  • A couple of names missing (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Vlad_the_Inhaler ( 32958 ) on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @04:49PM (#59509718)

    People used to love working for HP, but that was BC (Before Carly).
    I wonder if IBM have ever been on that list, I was exposed to their culture a couple of years back and their bureaucracy is off any rational scale.

    • I wonder if IBM have ever been on that list

      Probably back in the 70's.

      Back in the 80's, I remember that DEC, HP and Sun were the companies to work for.

      Well, DEC and Sun are dead, and HP no longer "does it the HP Way" anymore.

      So kinda sorta see it as natural for companies to drop off these lists as they mature, age or just plain die.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by PPH ( 736903 )

      Boeing. Not on the list. It used to be pretty good, but has taken a nosedive lately.

  • "Microsoft, meanwhile, rose 13 places to rank at No. 21."

    Are the other companies so bad that Microsoft has a higher rank?

    One example of Microsoft's poor management: Windows 10 is possibly the worst spyware ever made. [networkworld.com] "Buried in the service agreement is permission to poke through everything on your PC."

    Articles that show Microsoft's VERY poor management. [slashdot.org] The last link in that Slashdot comment (The link to Charlie Rose.) shows that Bill Gates still manages Microsoft.

    • Re:Why is Microsoft higher? (Score:4, Informative)

      by ShanghaiBill ( 739463 ) on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @05:13PM (#59509824)

      Are the other companies so bad that Microsoft has a higher rank?

      Under Gates and especially Balmer, Microsoft had a toxic work environment where employees were rewarded for backstabbing. But Microsoft is way better under Satya Nadella.

      One example of Microsoft's poor management: Windows 10 is possibly the worst spyware ever made. [networkworld.com]

      This ranking is about how they treat employees. Hostility toward customers is irrelevant.

      • I can think that employees would be far happier working at companies that allowed them to be hostile to customers:

        "Well Dave, the problems that you're experiencing are all on account of you being a complete fucking moron who didn't read the instructions, and short of driving down there to drown you in the nearest puddle I'm afraid there's not a lot we can do to fix that."

        If your company would let you get away with that I'll bet that everyone would show up early and some people would ask if they could
        • If I could abuse people like that daily, I'd work for free.

        • If your company would let you get away with that I'll bet that everyone would show up early and some people would ask if they could be the ones that get to work over the weekend.

          You really think it would be attractive to work at a place like that? I think it would be awful. Not only because I have no interest in abusing people, but that attitude towards customers is all but guaranteed to infect the employee hierarchy as well.

  • Has any company in the US done anything besides put downward pressure on compensation for employees in favor of profits? Is this any surprise?
    • Yet they will continue to complain that they can't find anyone because no one is going into tech.

    • You know who pays you more for your work than it's worth on the open market? Charities. Maybe go ask one of them for more money. I feel pretty good about how a) easy physically, b) flexible and c) high paying my job is in tech. I'm Gen X so maybe that's just a generational thing and Boomers and the Youngs always want more more more and have all these high falootin' expectations for what life should be like?

      I guess I think about the fact that I could be some poor bastard pouring asphalt or framing houses whe

      • I know what you mean. I once worked for a tech company where they stopped stocking bottles of Coke and made us use cans.

      • Yeah, think of those poor manual workers who have to put in hours, unpaid, to hit a deadline or spending time outside of work learning about the latest fad in timber frameworks, which will change again next week!

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by tsqr ( 808554 )

      Has any company in the US done anything besides put downward pressure on compensation for employees in favor of profits? Is this any surprise?

      You need to get out more. The answer to your first question is "Yes, of course there are. You ought to try working for one."

      • Ok well then I guess there is no problem and the article is wrong.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by tsqr ( 808554 )

          Ok well then I guess there is no problem and the article is wrong.

          What is this BS? The article did not claim that "no company in the US has done anything besides put downward pressure on compensation for employees in favor of profits". What is your specific beef?

          • People are unhappy with working for US companies. Sure there are good ones here and there, but there is supposed to be an open job market, meaning companies are supposed to pay what is required to bring people in.

            If no one is happy with what their compensation is, than the job market is not working.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by geek ( 5680 )

      Has any company in the US done anything besides put downward pressure on compensation for employees in favor of profits? Is this any surprise?

      Yes, they just aren't in "tech" whatever the fuck that means anymore. IT in general was never meant to be a standalone business model, it's a department in a larger org. SillyCon Valley made major cash on "tech" and continues too only now it's just advertising and technology only serves the purpose of selling you shit.

      Tech in the US is almost dead. Between the complete lack of innovation anywhere, the buzzword salads tossed out (cloud, AI, Machine Learning etc) and the grossly unpopular interjection of poli

  • ... the Big Loud Room employers insist everyone be in sucks ass.

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