Is Fry's Electronics in Trouble? (sfchronicle.com) 240
The tagline "Your best buys are always at Fry's" once blanketed Bay Area airwaves, but that's no longer true of the computer retailer's Palo Alto store. From a report: A temple of electronics known as "ground zero for geek culture," the Portage Avenue Fry's Electronics closed last week after almost 30 years in business. "The Palo Alto store was a fixture for techies everywhere. It's sad they closed," said Abbi Vakil, who works as a hardware engineer in the city. "You will not find an engineer in the Bay Area who hasn't gone to Fry's for some kind of prototype building." Fry's Electronics, a San Jose company that still has dozens of stores from California to Georgia, including seven in the Bay Area, said on Twitter that it had not been able to renew the Palo Alto store's lease. But customers from Sunnyvale to Seattle have been sharing photos and videos of empty shelves on social media for months, raising speculation that the chain may be heading for bankruptcy or shrinking significantly.
It must be true... (Score:4, Insightful)
I went to my local Fry's is Dallas a few months back and most of the shelves were empty. Except for at the front of the store there was isles of perfumes and colognes. WTF?
Re: It must be true... (Score:2)
The Houston location wasn't looking bad last time I went, but that was some months back. Truth be told, I did go to Newegg first, only when I had issues with things I bought online and didn't feel like waiting on shipping, did I go to a store.
Re: (Score:3)
Did you have to swim to get there, or did they have a little boat?
Re: (Score:3)
Re: (Score:2)
Except for at the front of the store there was isles of perfumes and colognes. WTF?
Are nerds not allowed to want to smell good?
Re: (Score:2)
Then stop by a Macy's and just walk through their perfume section. Don't need to buy anything.
Re: It must be true... (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
Yeah, most perfume/cologne scents are overwhelmingly strong and only make me want to get as far away as possible.
Take a shower if you smell bad. Or at least use unscented baby wipes.
Re: (Score:2)
I went into the North Phoenix Fry's the day before XMAS and it was EMPTY!
Wanted to get a tablet, but only two demo units were available
Ended up going to walmart, wasn't sure if Frys dying, or just sold out everything for Xmas
Re: (Score:3)
Re: (Score:2)
I went into the North Phoenix Fry's the day before XMAS and it was EMPTY!
That's my home location! Every three months or so we swoop down from our mountain lair to stock up at the Two Sacred Stores. The other one is Trader Joe.
Re: (Score:2)
I was there before Christmas. Unfortunately for me it'll have to be Digikey for my electronic components needs. As you observed there's a lot of empty shelf space plus what's on the shelves is very disorganized. I'm afraid they've been Amazon'd
Re: (Score:2)
The Renton location is similarly devoid of anything.
I was unable to even find a wireless router or hard drive. They do have tons of iphone cases and other mall trash.
Re: (Score:2)
I was unable to even find a wireless router or hard drive. They do have tons of iphone cases and other mall trash.
Maybe that's a sign that they're copying Radio Shack's strategy for success.
Re: (Score:2)
Oh,... Fry's had a battery club?
Re: (Score:3)
That would be a good idea, but I think that Fry's really needs to do one thing for a successful comeback: For every single transaction (even if just a single 29-cent resistor, and no matter how long the checkout line), they need to absolutely insist that the customer verbally dictate their name, address and phone number while the clerk painstakingly writes it all down by hand onto a 3-sheet thick carbon paper receipt. The clerks should also write the description and price of every last item onto the receipt
True for me, anyway (Score:2)
The Renton store has always struck me as soulless. Its interior theme looks just like the later Sunnyvale store, but without the wonderfully wacky "engraved" quotes and important local engineering objects like Sunnyvale's Apple 1 and Klystron tube. The Renton store just has historical photos of Renton way up high where they're easily missed. Amazon has completely replaced it for me. And I will not miss the Costco-like receipt harassment at the exit, at a store I have not signed my rights away to in exchange
Re: (Score:2)
If those are on loan, the owner might oughtta go get them back before they walk away. An Apple 1 is probably worth more than the rest of Fry's now.
Hi Mike (Score:2)
I just checked out your site at the geek pub.
Pretty cool stuff. Are you involved with any organizations here is Dallas? You might enjoy Dallas Hackers Association.
Re: (Score:2)
I'm out in Watauga, but willing to drive for interesting maker / tech get-togethers.
Re: (Score:2)
I just checked out your site at the geek pub.
Pretty cool stuff. Are you involved with any organizations here is Dallas? You might enjoy Dallas Hackers Association.
That's awesome! Never heard of it. Got a website link?
Re: (Score:2)
They apparently changed their business model from buying and reselling to consignment (basically expecting the suppliers to foot the bill for their inventory).
It hasn't gone well.
Re: (Score:2)
Chicago too (Score:2)
The Chicago location, Iâ(TM)ve been there twice in the past few months. Both times it looked like they didnâ(TM)t have a lot of inventory, lots of open places for items. The second visit you could tell theyâ(TM)d removed an entire shelf in the computer part area to make it look like they had more inventory.
Frys was a ghost town a couple of weeks ago (Score:5, Insightful)
Really startling, since the last time I was there it was really busy. As others report, many empty shelves. Not many customers, either. It it were the Palo Alto store ("Cowboy/Western" theme) I'd expect tumbleweeds.
Sad to see.
Though, they did not have the cable I was looking for, which is part of why Amazon is eating everyone's lunch. "I drove around and around and nobody has the part I need. I went to Amazon, and it was on my doorstep the next day. Tell me again why I should fruitlessly drive around and around?"
Re:Frys was a ghost town a couple of weeks ago (Score:5, Informative)
Re: (Score:2)
Tell me again why I should fruitlessly drive around and around?"
For me, it is mostly because what I want or need to do, I can't wait the one or more days it takes for it to arrive. Some times emergencies happen. Another reason that has popped up is because I need to verify that the part fits, like the right cable connectors, which requires physically checking it in the store. Besides that, you are right.
Re:Frys was a ghost town a couple of weeks ago (Score:5, Informative)
Tell me again why I should fruitlessly drive around and around?"
Because Amazon is evil? Because supporting local businesses help your local economy? If Amazon soon becomes the one and only retailer in the entire world, do you think they will hire all those people now out of jobs? It's like all those old people hanging out at the Walmart (just over the town's border) bemoaning the fact that downtown businesses have all closed. Maybe it's inevitable, but I still need to see an item before I buy it, the pictures on Amazon are worthless, the reviews are less than worthless, the descriptions of items are nonsensical, and it's difficult to browse things there. I am glad to say that I only bought one thing on Amazon during 2019.
Re: (Score:3)
Yes, but if I go to Fry's, then at least some money goes to the staff there. If I go to Amazon, that same money goes to some picker at a warehouse far from me. You're just thinking of the profits that go into selling an item, but there's a lot of extra economic activity that occurs.
What do you tell kids these days, that they have no hope of ever getting a summer job in the mall, because the mall will vanish, and instead their dream should be a sub-minimum wage gig worker who delivers products purchased on
Indy location too (Score:2)
3 weeks before Christmas and most shelves were completely empty. They're not stocking up on anything. Their TV section is 70% empty and has been that way for most of the year. Appliance section started shrinking over the fall. Computer parts are still, mostly, well stocked but certain areas, like laptop drives, only have a few popular models.
Not like Best Buy is doing much better but they're at least trying to evolve. They've effectively become a trade show layout - here's your Apple section - here's y
Re: (Score:2)
The advantage of a local store is the chance to shop around. Online they tend to focus you towards the best sellers. You'd think, naively, that being online you should be able to buy anything that's available to be sold, but it doesn't work that way if you can't find the right stuff. Meanwhile I got a TV a few years back that wasn't a big brand but was sitting next to all the big brands and it was a dumb TV and was selling cheaper than the others, so I got it; I would never have found that online.
This ye
Farewell, Fry's Electronics (Score:2)
I have heard that the Tempe, AZ store is closing. I remember in years past when it was packed with people for Christmas shopping, but over time the crowds melted away. I was astonished how empty of customers it was during my last visit.
Ultimately even a company like Fry's can't compete with online retailing. There was a time when Fry's sold items that were not easily found online. Now their shelves are full of what looks like low-end inventory from Amazon.
Re: (Score:2)
I didn't know it was closing, but it doesn't surprise me at all. Three years ago it was THE place for electronics of all kinds on the East side of the Valley. Two years ago, it still had items, but you could tell that the whole feeling in the store had changed. I recently went there to see if I could pick up an SSD drive. They had nothing in stock. They still had a few computer tools, but even the TV and Appliance section was mostly empty.
On my last visit I was wearing a red polo shirt. Twice I was asked b
Who is Fry's for? (Score:2)
I wonder who Fry's is for nowadays.
I am getting into hobby electronics, and Fry's doesn't really support that well. Our local store has a small selection of stuff but realistically I'm going to have to turn to online stores to get the selection of parts and tools that I need. I certainly did not think to myself "wow, this totally meets my needs". Far from it.
System building has probably become a) more niche as more systems are simply "good enough" for more people and b) harder for stores with retail space t
Re: (Score:3)
I think Fry's niche started erroding away from the day Dell started offering customized PCs on their websites with 2 week delivery (?2002?). Then the rest just got in on the action: the web became popular, hardware became a commodity, HP & Lenovo also started the same as Dell, Best Buy [fake] Geek Squad, etc.
The one thing that Frys had that places like Best Buy/Amazon/Dell/HP/Lenovo didn't was atleast 1-2 really geeky knowledgable guys. They could have started workshops with that knowledge and brought
Re: (Score:2)
But really it was like we were living back in the 1950's when you had to drive an hour to get stuff you wanted instead of just looking at specs and ordering stuff that would be here in a day or two. Honestly, I was able to
Re: (Score:2)
Sad though, as just three years ago it was nearly the opposite - stop at Fry's and you had a big choice of home routers (to compare against your list that were possibly to reflash with linux), whereas your Target or Walmart would have only 2 or 3 options. When my video card suddenly decided to stop working, it was a quick trip to Fry's to compare 20+ different cards (from $30 up to $799) and do a lot of comparison, and the computer is back up and working shortly after getting back home. Fry's used to cate
The Vegas Store Too (Score:2)
This was the Las Vegas Fry's during the AWS Re:Invent conference in early December. https://photos.app.goo.gl/W5Cr... [app.goo.gl] Much was missing and about half of the shelves were empty.
Re: (Score:2)
Yea, its nothing like it used to be. Used to be in line for 30 minutes sometimes waiting to check out and they would have 10-15 registers open at that time too. They don't even have motherboards or CPU's at the frys here anymore... I have seen a lot of "frys is dying" articles the last 6 months or so. And frys keeps responding with "were changing product models" Trying to go to consignment like Walmart and Home Depot do. But I think they may have shot their self in the foot with this one. Will be a sad day
Re: (Score:3)
Fry's has been sliding for years. They didn't pay employees enough to care very much, didn't train them on their areas, and had anti-theft processes that were clunky, inconvenient, and of questionable effectiveness. Stock was often questionable with a lot of returns not well checked for contents. The only places that seemed to remain well-stocked were the DIY electronics aisles, but people shopping those aisles by nature didn't need much help.
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
Used to be in line for 30 minutes sometimes waiting to check out and they would have 10-15 registers open at that time too
So many checkouts running that Fry's had an employee whose entire job it was to direct the next customer in line to a suitable open register, which in some cases was below the observer's horizon. In those days Fry's was the American version of the Akihabara Market.
Indy, too (Score:2)
Dying (Score:2)
I went into my local Fry's about a month ago. I needed a new monitor, and thought it'd be nice to see a good selection in person. The PC section was a very sad sight. Mostly laptops, a couple desktops. They had three or four monitors out, but they were all turned off. All low-end monitors. Complete waste of time.
Not the first, won't be the last (Score:2)
In Seattle we had a place, Radar Electric, down kind of between Interbay and Belltown on lower Queen Anne. For decades, that was the go-to electronics store for many of us for all sorts of electrical / electronic needs. Heck, even if I didn't need anything myself I'd happily tag along with a coworker or friend when they went to Radar.
But the internet has changed the world, and it's an open question how much of a viable market there is now for most types of retail sales. Radar closed their (retail) doors in
Re: (Score:2)
Yup - Vetco can save you when you need a weird connector or cable that day. Selection is a bit light in many areas, but you can probably find most of what you need for prototyping. Or fixing old electronics - they've got a virtual museum of obsolete stuff.
Probably the last of the dinosaurs...
Wilsonville dieing as well (Score:2)
The one in Wilsonville (near Portland OR) has been a shadow for some time; rumor has it that redevelopment of the area is going to put a road through it, but I'm sure the stores are getting killed by the convenience of online shopping.
Austin Store has empty shelves and few customers (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
But it *has* been like this ... for many months now.
It's hard to put a date on it, but this thread on /r/Austin [reddit.com] mentioned it back in May.
Lost lease, but yes they are in trouble. (Score:5, Insightful)
The Palo Alto location was a one-story building from another age, with a large parking lot, surrounded by multi-story headquarters of the most lucrative businesses. It's close to Stanford and the Sand Hill Road VCs. Fry's lost their lease. I would assume that the site will be bulldozed and rebuilt as multi-story with in-building parking.
That said, I can confirm that if you go to Fry's looking for a new laptop, you will mostly find refurbished units and old models they couldn't sell. And you will notice that there aren't many people shopping, and that the shelves are astonishingly bare.
I used to go there often, but online stores have become my main source for electronics and computer hardware. I doubt I'm alone in that. Even back when I was a frequent customer, I would find that the stuff I bought at Fry's was often old models rather than the manufacturer's current ones. Toward the end I was looking everything up on my phone before putting it in a cart. Sort of defeats the purpose of shopping in a brick-and-mortar.
Re: (Score:2)
We used to go to Fry's fairly often, but first the quality of salescritters dropped, then the quality of goods dropped, then more often than not the item we wanted to buy was out of stock and only the display was available. We stopped going about a year and a half ago.
Re: (Score:2)
Likewise. Ten years ago, I could almost guarantee that they would have whatever I needed more than 90% of the time, and it was worth spending a few extra bucks more to get things immediately. These days, it is more like 10%, if that, and it isn't worth getting in the car only to be disappointed and have to buy it on Amazon anyway. Sometimes I check the Fry's website first, but lately, I've just about stopped even bothering, because half the time, their stock numbers are wrong, so you get over there and
Indianapolis Too (Score:2)
Our store in Indy has gone to hell as well, we have tons of Amazon DCs so our entire area is covered by same day delivery as well as a Newegg DC that offers same day pick-up. Fry's will be like losing Radioshack, it was the local store of last resort for me if I needed something odd.
-Also I don't come here often anymore, but wtf I can't post anonymously without logging in?
Re: (Score:2)
3 years ago I had a graphics card go bad on my PC.
Did some quick net research and found a make/model/style I wanted, mid-level NVidia, and headed over to Fry's to pick it up and they didn't have any of the mid-level NVidia cards in stock - my choices were low end or extreme high end NVidia or AMD cards (and a relatively small selection at that.)
Disgruntled I went to dinner with some friends then got home late and at 1am Sunday morning, started researching cards again and found the card I wanted on Amazon AN
Re: (Score:2)
They implemented it a month or two ago to deal with the spam problem. There are still some golden oldies around, but it's a much cleaner experience now.
Ground zero for geek culture? (Score:2)
I remember that as Radio Shack!
Or better: Bell Labs and similar places.
Portland, OR (Score:2)
Fading glory... (Score:2, Funny)
The Downers Grove (IL) store would be full of crickets except they're not restocking the crickets either.
Meanwhile the Microcenter a couple of miles away is bustling with serpentine lines at the registers.
Last couple of times (Score:2)
Last couple of times I've went in there the stock has continued to decrease. Long ago they changed the entire book section over to toys, perfume and other items but the signs at the end of the isles still claim to be books. I last went in there about a month ago to buy a new laptop, there were no demonstration models nor salespeople, so I guess I'll shop elsewhere for the laptop.
It's pretty much a wasted trip to go there now, nothing to buy. They keep giving me different stories ab
Used to show there, not any more (Score:2)
I have been to several Fry's over the years (lived in Dallas, Seattle and Indy) and bought thousands of dollars there over the years. However they never moved on with the times. Their online presence was a joke, their real time inventory was a joke, their email of codes was a joke. I shouldn't have to go to the store, and wonder what the price was going to be (not the same as online), whether they have inventory, and if they are going to honor the sale price I found on their website.
Last time I went to t
Walmart ?? (Score:2)
Walmart for electronics ? Give me a break. I had to pick up a Power Supply on Jan 1 and Walmart, Target, Staples and other such stores never crossed my mind. I only heard of Fry's on /., but here there is a similar store. I went there and was able to get a PS without any issues
Eventually for such things we will be forced to shop on-line, then you will see prices skyrocket since there will be no local store to go to. But there will be no one to talk to and if the part does not fit, return and buy again
Re: (Score:2)
Walmart for electronics ? Give me a break. I had to pick up a Power Supply on Jan 1 and Walmart, Target, Staples and other such stores never crossed my mind.
https://www.walmart.com/search... [walmart.com]
You can filter on your local Wal-Mart to find the 1-to-3ish models they stock.
Re: (Score:2)
https://www.walmart.com/search... [walmart.com]
You can filter on your local Wal-Mart to find the 1-to-3ish models they stock.
Click the store availability button. It leads to zero results in my entire state.
Can Fry's change trajectory from tragic? (Score:2)
As a child of the 80s, I've always loved visiting Fry's. Was sad visiting the Vegas location last week to buy a wifi 6 router for the parents only to learn they were out of stock...of all routers. Hope a miracle happens!
Fun indy store fact (Score:2)
(as there seems to be a lot of indy people here on slashdot today!)
The Fry's indy store was originally The Incredible Universe - Radio Shack's foray into a big electronics store! (and later an Autonation)
It had Laserdiscs!
Official explanation (Score:5, Interesting)
1) They are selling down current stock to facilitate laying out the store's floorplan differently (expending only a minimum of moving labor) so that the self-service merchandise (and thus generally lower-priced) is at the rear of the store and the salesperson-supported items (and thus generally higher priced) is nearer the entrances.
2) They are analyzing what sells well at higher margin in the Amazon era.
3) The floorplan reorg occurs by end of January 2020, because by that time there will be less weight & minutia to move around (than in a fully-stocked store).
4) The new-product supply trucks arrive during February 2020 to fill the revamped floorplan.
Of course, if March 2020 arrives and #3 and #4 on the list never occurred, this response from the manager might have been nothing more than a mere sounds-good plausible cover story for going out of business at some point.
Re:Official explanation (Score:5, Insightful)
Seems to me that it would make more sense to pay some temp people minimum wage to move around the extra stock, as opposed to making most of your customers think that you're going out of business (so they never return).
Re:Official explanation (Score:4, Insightful)
I am not buying that one. The biggest expense big-box retail has is real-estate in most cases. Hell even if they wanted to avoid paying anyone time and half it would probably make more sense to close the store for a weekend or even a week and then have a "Grand Re-Opening"
(I have done financial computing / activity based costing work for big retail)
There is NO-way a semi-national large-format retailer that isn't in dire straits would allow prime floor space to sit empty of product for a period of months, especially not during the holiday season! The also would be very very unlikely to shift ever store at once.
1) You lose a ton of foot traffic and mind share
2) You make customers believe they will be disappointed so they don't bother shopping you in the future
3) You still gotta pay the rent and utilities on all the retail space while you earn virtually no revenue
4) You either layoff and incur the cost of training new personnel later -or- you pay a bunch of people to stand in empty stores
5) You force yourself to bat-down "....is dying" articles in the press; recalling that most people just read the headlines and will conclude that your shop.
In short what was described to you is about the stupidest plan for transiting store formats I can imagine. I will be shocked if it turns out to be true. I'll be absolutely floored if it subsequently works out for them.
No the most likely explanation is your store manager was fed that line for corporate. Corporate is desperately seeking financing or a buyer because otherwise they are going to have to wind down the business. They apparently can't afford to buy or get credit to carry inventory so have already had to attempt the consignment model to keep anything on the shelf. They don't want to tell their store staff this because if they do all the store managers will jump ship, which will torpedo their orderly wind down or otherwise make it even harder to sell the business.
Burbank CA Location is Popping (Score:3)
The Fry's in Burbank CA is a GODSEND! The place is always packed with people and is fully stocked. I always go there first when I need anything. They're really a cross between an appliance, electronics, and multimedia store. Frankly, I absolutely love it.
They saved my rear end when our fridge died. Went in and bought a new one and had it delivered by the end of the day.
I went to one in San Jose. I think it was the Mayan themed one. Anywho, the store was still just as nicely stocked. Definitely not empty.
Getting in and out was quick and easy.
When I moved to California, it made me so happy to be able to walk into a store to buy 1 capacitor. Screw having to buy that stuff online.
Here's hoping they don't close down their stores.
Ars Death Watch (Score:2)
ArsTechnica just posted their DeathWatch list for 2020, and although Fry's wasn't on the list, it was one of the most discussed in the comments section.
https://arstechnica.com/inform... [arstechnica.com]
Amazon (Score:2)
Re: (Score:3)
Consignment model (Score:2)
Why was this left out of TF summary?
Either this model clearly isn't working or there's some serious competency issues or both. Regardless, it's mysterious and almost surreal (when you visit a store) as to how long this has been allowed to drag out.
Los Angeles (Woodland Hills) location looked like (Score:2)
You know how stores look when they are having the âoeGOING OUT OF BUSINESS! EVERYTHING MUST GO!â sales? This is the way the Woodland Hills, LA location looked around spring in 2019. Even though there was no sign or press indicating this, I assumed the announcement would be forthcoming within a few months judging from the shape the shelves and inventory were in (and the fact that it was a marked change from a year or so prior). But, as it turns out, they are still open and I havenâ(TM)t hea
Re: (Score:2)
I stay down the street from the Woodland Hills Fry's every time I go down there to visit family, but haven't had the time to step in. I've always wondered: what's the theme?
Re: Los Angeles (Woodland Hills) location looked l (Score:2)
Itâ(TM)s an Alice in Wonderland theme. The best theme in this area is the alien invasion theme in Burbank, replete with a UFO crashed into the outside store facade. Havenâ(TM)t been to the Burbank location in at least 5 years myself - noticed a comment above claiming itâ(TM)s actually well-stocked which makes me curious.
No (Score:2)
First, because of Betteridge, second, it's dead, Jim, not troubled.
Law Of The Internet (Score:2)
'Case in point, I was last in Fry's a decade ago when I built a PC. I am upgrading that PC now, but will probably not go to Fry's due to other choices available to me today. If thousands behave similarly, I don't see how it can survive.
The Downer's Grove Store (IL)... (Score:2)
... was virtually empty just a few days before Christmas. I should have taken pictures. An aisle that would normally have hundreds of hard drives in the shelves had just three. Luckily they still had several bins of the ethernet cables I was looking for.
The girl at the exit that checked my receipt told a couple of men in front of me that they'd "changed suppliers and the truck hadn't arrived yet". Seriously, you change suppliers at the height of the holiday rush? So we're to believe that the old supplier g
Not surprised people are wondering (Score:2)
This isn't new: my last trip to Fry's (Renton, August 2018) was an exercise in empty shelves, deserted aisles, a challenge to find anything worth buying.
I remember Fry's in the '90s. The Kern Avenue store in Sunnyvale was an amazing place. Fry's in the '20s is in a death spiral.
...laura
Live long enough and you see it. (Score:2)
Silo
Comp USA
Computer City
Circuit City
Bryn Mawr Stereo
Radio Shack
H.H. Gregg
Crazy Eddie - Never was to one, but the commercials and scandals were fun.
only Best Buy still stands, hardly ever went there because the stores weren't as close as the others, well they are now, and the service now is better than most of the others ever had. No Fry's out here.
List of defunct stores [wikipedia.org]
Re: (Score:2)
One word: Phones (Score:3)
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:3, Insightful)
Re: (Score:3)
To be fair to Radio Shack, they *TRIED* hard. They had their CEO actively listening to DIY'ers and tried to ramp the kits and parts business side back up, but I guess it was just too hard to compete. $15 for 12 colored jumper wires for a breadboard/arduino kit... Our hobbytown USA store has a "Radio Shack" in its new incarnation. Some of the parts and tools section. Kinda neat to see, but still too expensive.
Re: (Score:2)
Re: Frys is irrelevent (Score:2)
To be fair to Radio Shack, they *TRIED* hard.
When; long after it was obviously far too fucking late??
Re: (Score:2)
Yeah, I'd say they tried re-working kit offerings after the cell phone-heavy model failed, maybe 2 years before the end.
Re: (Score:3)
It's all about the value added. There is a new shop in Akihabara where you can build your own custom keyboards. They aren't cheap, it's all Chinese parts that you can buy cheaper on AliExpress, but if you go there you can see everything laid out and use their soldering gear and get help from their staff. They have a printer to do custom key caps too.
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
But the hardware is commodity and low profits. It alone is not enough to set you apart from everyone else.
Their stores are huge and they could have freed up space for MakerLabs. Design classes. Even offered a Fab to print out custom circuit designs (or maybe have the fab in one place accepting orders from all the stores...). Rent Maker/Fab time. Keep a library of designs that folks can use, edit, and submit for ordering...
Re: Frys is irrelevent (Score:2)
Their stores are huge and they could have freed up space for MakerLabs. Design classes. Even offered a Fab to print out custom circuit designs (or maybe have the fab in one place accepting orders from all the stores...).
In other words, nothing that would have actually paid for the huge store...
Re: (Score:2)
I think your thoughts on the cost of running a fab are off by a dozen orders of magnitude.
Re: (Score:2)
Please explain what "embracing the maker movement" means? 3D printers? They have those. Breadboards? Sure. Chips? Yes.
You mean they did have those things. Hence this story.
Re: (Score:2)
I think the cities they're in just makes the overhead too high to cater to us hobbyists. They're just not going to be able to sell enough $10.99 DPDT toggle switches or $1.89 red LED twin-packs to put a dent in their rent. ( I'm mentally picturing Radio Shack prices. I realize Fry's was/is cheaper, but that makes it even worse)
Re: (Score:2)
And they should do that by........?
We're talking about a store that literally carried breadboards, resistors, chips, and a hell of a lot of other "maker" parts. What more do you think they should have done?
Re:Frys is irrelevent (Score:5, Insightful)
I think you're oversimplifying things if you think their problems boil down to a failure to embrace the maker community and other hobbyists. For instance:
1) Fry's stores are HUGE. Even if Fry's catered to electronic hobbyists in exactly the way you'd like, and even if hobbyists bought out their inventory every week, it'd still only take up a fraction of the floor space in any given Fry's. How does Fry's justify/make profitable the rest of the space? Without a plan to make the entire space profitable, a shift to smaller stores (or going out of business) is inevitable. Huge, physical stores are hard for anyone to justify these days. Fry's is feeling that crunch, just like everyone else.
2) A physical store is only capable of catering to people who happen to live in a particular area. The maker community is still niche, which is why maker spaces tend to be small (i.e. they're appropriately sized to address the needs of the people in their area) and why online stores do so well (i.e. they're able to address the needs of a broader geographic range of people). In this day and age, a giant retail store dedicated to electronic hobbyists is a giant retail store built on an unsustainable business model. The addressable market simply isn't there to support a giant store like that.
What's actually killing Fry's is a death by a thousand cuts. While you may have enjoyed Fry's for the things that made it distinct, most people shopped there the same way they would have shopped at Best Buy; it was a one-stop-shop to browse through music, movies, games, software, and consumer electronics/appliances. But in an age where digital downloads and streaming (see: Netflix, Pirate Bay, iTunes, Steam, etc.) have eaten physical sales' lunch and online stores have outcompeted in nichemarkets (see: Adafruit, Newegg, Monoprice, etc.), Joe Consumer has less and less reason to go to a physical retailer in the first place. And even if he goes to a physical retailer, why Fry's instead of the stores that are closer/cheaper/more convenient than the gigantic one that can only justify its massive footprint by being everything to everyone across a massive geographic region?
If you want to hang Fry's failure on something, I might suggest you look towards reasons like those, rather than their lack of embracing the maker community to your satisfaction. Their death comes not because they failed to cater to a particular community, but rather because that much floor space requires that they cater to ALL communities, which was something that they couldn't do after enough of those communities moved enough of their members to online purchases and digital goods.
Doubling-down on makers and hobbyists is a viable business model (as are a number of alternatives), but it would require a move to smaller, local stores. That move wouldhave come at great expense, would have required that they outcompete incumbent stores/maker spaces already serving local communities, and would leave us with a company that looks very different than the Fry's we know today.
They may still try to pivot that way. We'll see.
Re: (Score:2)
I wouldn't recommend the long drive. A buddy said that the Alpharetta shelves looked as bad as the other posts here.
Re: (Score:2)
That area in Duluth is failing for shopping in general - that mall is so dead they used it to film "Stranger Things".
I haven't been to the Alpharetta store in a year or so IIRC, but it was running down - lots of empty shelves, almost nobody in the place (and it has been headed that way for longer than a year too).