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Sidewalk Labs Cancels Plan To Build High-Tech Neighbourhood in Toronto Amid COVID-19 (www.cbc.ca) 37

New submitter Bradmont shares a report: Sidewalk Labs, a Google-affiliated company, is abandoning its plan to build a high-tech neighbourhood on Toronto's waterfront, citing what it calls unprecedented economic uncertainty. The project, dubbed Quayside, still didn't have all of the government approvals it needed to go ahead. Many had raised concerns about the privacy implications of the project and how much of the city's developing waterfront Sidewalk Labs wanted to control. The so-called "smart city" was set to feature a range of cutting edge technology, from residential towers made of timber to the use of autonomous cars and heated sidewalks. "As unprecedented economic uncertainty has set in around the world and in the Toronto real estate market, it has become too difficult to make the 12-acre project financially viable without sacrificing core parts of the plan we had developed," company CEO Dan Doctoroff said in a statement.

Toronto Mayor John Tory was quick to issue a statement saying he regrets the company's decision, but anticipates others will step in to develop the area. "Toronto's economy will come back strong after COVID-19 and we will continue to be a magnet for smart people and smart companies," he said in an email. Tory also said he plans to push Waterfront Toronto and both the provincial and federal governments to make sure any new development in the area will create new jobs and a "carbon-neutral neighbourhood" with affordable housing units and "better transportation and sustainability features."

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Sidewalk Labs Cancels Plan To Build High-Tech Neighbourhood in Toronto Amid COVID-19

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  • by lessSockMorePuppet ( 6778792 ) on Thursday May 07, 2020 @12:26PM (#60032676) Homepage

    Another one bites the dust
    Another one bites the dust
    And another one gone, and another one gone
    Another one bites the dust
    Hey, I'm gonna get you, too
    Another one bites the dust

    • Comment removed based on user account deletion
    • Which always makes me think of: Another one rides the bus Another one rides the bus And another gets on, another gets on Another one rides the bus Hey, can I sit by you? Another one rides the bus
    • Well, there's your problem - workers needed onsite kept getting lost because they were trying to use Google Maps to get to a place named "Keyside".

    • Incidentally, in America it can be pronounced three ways. I was raised with "KWAY", but it can also be "KEY" or "KAY".

      https://www.merriam-webster.co... [merriam-webster.com]

      • Yup, knew some Canadians by the same last name, they pronounced it kway.

        But "keyside" is obviously the best in this case. (According to me, and my gut, obviously)

        Where did OP even come from though? Just tossing out some knowledge even though there was no reason to ?

      • by _merlin ( 160982 )

        Really? As an Indian now living in Australia, I've only every heard it pronounced like "key" - are there people who unironically pronounce it "kway"?

  • by flyingfsck ( 986395 ) on Thursday May 07, 2020 @12:42PM (#60032768)
    They have announced it multiple times over the last ten years and never actually did anything. So why is this news?
  • by 0100010001010011 ( 652467 ) on Thursday May 07, 2020 @12:47PM (#60032792)

    People realize remote work works and everything is on firesale right now.

    Go find some plot of land in the middle of nowhere Canada, US. Run fiber to it. Design it around walkability and sustainability. Hell, 12 acres in most places would probably cost less than permits in Toronto.

    • Definitely anything tech/IT related can all be done remotely, unless you're literally wiring a data center, and even then you go back home once that's done.

      The combination of dark fiber, and more access to shipping means you can work/make from anywhere in the U.S. There's no reason you can't live in rural Indiana unless you need to visit museums, nightclubs every day.

      • I live closer to a children's museum (by time) in an entirely different city than most Chicago residents are from Chicago museums.

    • Go find some plot of land in the middle of nowhere Canada, US. Run fiber to it. Design it around walkability and sustainability.

      I also think this is a great idea, I have a few additions:

      1) Put it somewhere within two hours or so of a major airport. Even though people will happily spend a lot of time very remote just working, they want to be able to travel sometimes as well without major issues.

      2) Make sure the climate is good in the location you choose, so people can spend a lot of times outdoors...

      • 2) Make sure the climate is good in the location you choose, so people can spend a lot of times outdoors...

        To some of us Canadian and Nordic climate is "good" and we do spend a lot of time out side.

    • by spitzak ( 4019 )

      Pay the employees with company scrip that can only be used at the store they provide.

    • by davecb ( 6526 )
      Heck yes! Upgrade the networking in cottage country, near Toronto, and watch all the graduates of Waterloo and UofT fire up start-ups from their summer homes
      • by chrish ( 4714 )

        This is one of the best ideas I've ever seen on Slashdot, I wish I had mod points today.

    • "Build it and they will come" is bullshit. Just how successful was Novosibersk in Soviet Russia?

      My inlaws live in small-town Ontario. They've been there for hundreds of years as farmers and shopkeepers, and have pretty much thought the same way for that entire time. Their town is lately marketing itself for tourism and retirement living. Poor choices if COVID stays around. We call it Southern Ontario, but it isn't Florida or Arizona. Few young people are willing to stay there; none willing to go there. The

    • You would still need to have utilities at hand : water, electricity, maybe gas , and certainly waste water treatment. I have no idea what they had planned as smart city, but without those 5 you won't go anywhere fast. So in the middle of "nowhere" I don't think so. But I will grant you that near a big city you would get those 5 and still get a much cheaper development/permit than Toronto waterfront.
  • it is well and truly fucked now that China has weaponized international travel and turned multiculturalism into a death cult

  • ...and I thought it was all bad news
  • At my work because of COVID-19 we are delaying some projects until next quarter or next year, due to the face we don't have the budget for it. Being that the whole economy is getting hit, I doubt its competitors are going to get too much traction.

  • In the near future, Toronto will be carbon neutral alright. When the largess stops flowing from Ottawa and the bills come due. It'll be Hunger Games time. Gets pretty cold there too.
  • by oh_my_080980980 ( 773867 ) on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:21PM (#60033132)
    "place filled with new technologies such as heated sidewalks, robotic garbage systems, and, crucially, sensors to learn about how people move about cities in ways that could inspire even more innovations." https://www.theglobeandmail.co... [theglobeandmail.com]

    Orwellian dream come true. Who wouldn't want that....
    • by sinij ( 911942 )
      Well Canadian law has some basic privacy protections. When that was explained to Google in no uncertain terms they tried lobbying and when that didn't work they left. Good riddance.
    • Google is blaming COVID for the cancellation but the reality is it's because of Public Opposition to the project. This has been heavily opposed by Vancouver residents which is why the government has not moved on the proposal. NIMBYism got the project, not COVID.

      • by davecb ( 6526 )

        They missed the "polite Canadian" problem: Google tried to run roughshod over their own local advisors, because they didn't swear and curse. Instead the advisors reached out to their city councilors and made sure Toronto wouldn't fund Google's scheme.

        Revenge is a dish best served cold? Yup, it's a cold country.

    • How are heated sidewalks and robotic garbage systems "new" technologies?

      We have heated floors and trash compactors in the building I live in *now*. What, they have an automated truck pick up their garbage bin instead of dudes?

      Oh, I forgot - residential towers made of timber. *earth-shattering* (and I'm well aware of recent advances in timber allowing higher building codes to be permitted, but this doesn't seem like the mark of some tech-forward ... anything)

  • "cutting edge technology, from residential towers made of timber"

    The Cutting Edge Technology of making "towers" out of timber is how to make the bribes to get them to pass the City Fire regulations ...

  • and not because no one wanted your shitty idea in the first place.

  • ...with affordable housing units and "better transportation and sustainability features."

    Re: affordable, what's his definition of affordable? There's nothing in downtown TO that anyone who isn't on a financial services wage can afford. It's a city of haves & have nots. Child poverty is more than 50% in multiple areas. Most people can't live on what they earn there.

    Re: better transportation, yeah, that's setting the bar low. It'd be hard to make anything worse.

    Re: sustainable, you mean enact building regulations that ensure adequate insulation for Ontario winters? You know, so that you don'

  • by Tony Isaac ( 1301187 ) on Thursday May 07, 2020 @05:28PM (#60033874) Homepage

    If you are having doubts about your big new project, or if you want to cancel something, or you just don't want to do something you were committed to doing, just say COVID-19. It's the new excuse for everything.

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