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Your ZIP Code and Your Life Expectancy (nytimes.com) 61

New submitter moogmachine shares a report: New data on electricity consumption has offered an insight into Americans' level of wariness in the early days of the coronavirus pandemic: Many appeared to be staying home to avoid the virus even before lockdown orders were issued in March. The data, on consumption in homes in 30 states, shows that energy use began to rise in many states about a week before stay-at-home orders were issued but after states of emergency were declared. The data comes from Sense, a company based in Cambridge, Mass., that sells a device to help homeowners track energy use through a smartphone app. The information comes with some caveats. For instance, the devices tend to be popular with tech-savvy early adopters, and the typical Sense home is larger than most. Overall data came from about 5,000 of the devices across 30 states that were geographically representative of the country, the company said.

Like a recent study of electricity use in New York City apartments, the Sense data shows a sharp rise in consumption, with most of the increase coming during the day, when in normal times many people would be at work or school. Across all 30 states, the company reported a 22 percent average increase in overall domestic consumption from March 10 to April 10 this year compared with 2019. The data was adjusted to account for weather differences. Broken down by date and state -- the company looked at data for California, New York and seven other states individually -- the results are even more intriguing. George Zavaliagkos, the company's vice president of technology, said that when he first started looking at the data, he expected to see a rise in energy use in a given state when that state's government issued a lockdown order. California was the first state to order a statewide lockdown, on March 19. New York and other states followed quickly.

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Your ZIP Code and Your Life Expectancy

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  • I know, I know, correlation is not causation.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 21, 2020 @09:50AM (#60086608)

    I only read the summary like every other casual schmuck on this site, and neither the words "life" nor "expectancy" show up anywhere in that summary. Quit trying to gaslight Slashdot with shitty headlines and red banners. We gaslight ourselves fine without all the extra help.

  • Stupid headline (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Way Smarter Than You ( 6157664 ) on Thursday May 21, 2020 @09:52AM (#60086622)
    Does not match article. Article says nothing about higher life expectancy.

    I was expecting a real article on the actual topic and to see something about rich vs poor or regional things like hot vs cold, urban vs rural. Not some bullshit PR / advertisement from some startup selling home automation toys.
    • Re:Stupid headline (Score:5, Informative)

      by jenningsthecat ( 1525947 ) on Thursday May 21, 2020 @10:26AM (#60086716)

      Does not match article. Article says nothing about higher life expectancy.

      You need to look at the article above the one that's quoted in TFS to read the one that matches the headline. The NYT put two articles on one page; Slashdot editors weren't paying attention and created the headline for the first article, instead of for the second one which the submitter was referring to.

      • NYT did some dumb JavaScript link thingy to scroll the browser to the correct story. It doesn't work all the time, so for some folks if you click the link it scrolls to the wrong article. Web 2.0 strikes again.
        • When javascript outsmarts the editor, it is the editor's fault. (Assuming of course that the editor isn't just a poorly trained AI running on a forgotten Indian server farm.)
        • by Falos ( 2905315 )

          Please turn on javascript so our site will work properly. And by properly we mean our shiny bullshit will break anyway.

          Maybe it was for the best - I think I'd prefer to hear sci-like babbling over zip code data than the slashvertisment for smart cloud home !Apps! crap.

        • The original article submission by moogmachine [slashdot.org] was accurately titled "What electricity data tells us about the pandemic." The editors actually decided to do some editing for once, and beefed up the summary by cutting and pasting large parts of TFA. But then for some inexplicable reason decided the title should also be changed, to the wrong title.
  • I just go by my Slashdot userid instead. It's looking positive.

  • by bobstreo ( 1320787 ) on Thursday May 21, 2020 @10:22AM (#60086700)

    Not because I'm at home, but because it has been a very cold April and May so far.

    I used about 320KWh in the mid April to mid May billing cycle. In the warmer months it's usually more like 215KWh. In winter months, closer to 500KWh.

    There is a separate bill from another company for natural gas for the water heater, stove and furnace.

    • Wait, you have a natural gas furnace, but your electric bill goes up when it's cold? How does that work?
      • Wait, you have a natural gas furnace, but your electric bill goes up when it's cold? How does that work?

        Perhaps he has space heaters for individual rooms, versus the furnace which is for the full house. It may be more economical to only keep some of the rooms warmed some of the time.

      • That was the norm for me, when I lived in Seattle. In the summer, we'd have daylight from ~5 AM to ~10 PM. In the winter, it's light from 9 AM to 4 PM. You use a lot more electricity for things like lighting, you do a lot more inside (no all-day hikes and fishing trips) so more TV/electronics use, cook more warm food (ovens are usually electric), etc.
      • Wait, you have a natural gas furnace, but your electric bill goes up when it's cold? How does that work?

        There are fans to push the hot air through the house and pull the cold air back in. And electric filters.

  • by magzteel ( 5013587 ) on Thursday May 21, 2020 @10:26AM (#60086714)

    From the summary: "The data comes from Sense, a company based in Cambridge, Mass., that sells a device to help homeowners track energy use through a smartphone app. The information comes with some caveats. For instance, the devices tend to be popular with tech-savvy early adopters, and the typical Sense home is larger than most"

    The device costs $300 on amazon. They say they wont charge a monthly fee for the service but apparently they are tracking and sharing your data.

    • Any worse than the smart meters the utilities* use? They probably have the same data, just more of it.

      *Electricity, water, gas, etc.

  • by 110010001000 ( 697113 ) on Thursday May 21, 2020 @10:26AM (#60086718) Homepage Journal

    Tech bros with $500 privacy invading devices controlled by apps stayed home. Great stuff.

    • which is this [go.com]

      Basically folks on the lower end of the Socio-Economic ladder are much more likely to live in multi-generational homes (fancy way to say you live with your parents and their parents too).

      You're also much more likely to work in an essential business (Groceries, manufacturing, blue collar work, restaurant) where you don't have paid sick leave and where you can't just go on unemployment because your job's closed.

      Basically they younger workers are bringing the virus home to their granda
    • by dgatwood ( 11270 )

      California tech companies started having their people work from home up to two weeks before the shutdown (Apple mandatory Mar. 8, Amazon and Google Mar. 12, with at least some of those companies allowing voluntary WFH for a week or more before that), so the effect in California may be exaggerated because of tech savvy people being likely to work in tech. Not sure about other areas.

  • We've all been trained to believe we'll be dead by 72 by our parents... but that's the average age, and for every kid who posted a dead at 7 on the scoreboard, we have to factor that into the average. I'll be around til 100, trust me.

    • We can actually measure that [ssa.gov]

      If you were born today, your life expectancy is 75 years (not 72).
      But if you made it to age 70, then you can expect to live to age 84.

      And if you somehow make it to age 80, then you can expect to have another 8 years ahead of you.

      Of course, new technologies could change all of that, but caveat emptor [youtube.com].
  • of water, gas & electric

    i dont keep lights on in every room of the house, i dont leave BIG televisions on blaring loudly all day long, i dont keep big botnetted desktop PCs running 24/7/365, i only have a couple laptops and an AM/FM radio for electronics, i abandoned TV long ago since it is such a spammy piece of crap with 75% advertising,
    • So when you die young from not using enough electricity, you'll have only yourself to blame!
    • i dont keep lights on in every room of the house, i dont leave BIG televisions on blaring loudly all day long, i dont keep big botnetted desktop PCs running 24/7/365, i only have a couple laptops and an AM/FM radio for electronics, i abandoned TV long ago since it is such a spammy piece of crap with 75% advertising,

      Thank you for sharing. It's a real shame that they don't give out medals for out-of-the-blue virtue signaling, you would get at least a silver.

    • I mean, lights aren't really a drain anymore. You can leave a whole house lit for what usedto only light one room. And even BIG TVs don't really matter anymore either, the average laptop draws more power. A gaming laptop certainly will. Feel free to not watch TV, but power consumption shouldn't be a reason.

      HVAC, appliances and anything that's doing computation (laptops, desktops) are the real energy hogs these days. Unless you have old appliances/light bulbs/TVs. Those things will suck down the juice r

  • I would suspect the AZ power usage going down against the trend may be associated with an unusually cool and pleasant March & April. It was open-window weather rather than air conditioning weather.

    • by dgatwood ( 11270 )

      From the article:

      The data was adjusted to account for weather differences.

      Of course, that's no guarantee that they did it correctly, but....

  • by stabiesoft ( 733417 ) on Thursday May 21, 2020 @11:12AM (#60086882) Homepage
    You pay 300 bucks for an item that spys on you plus you get to pay someone to install, guessing another couple hundred. And then according to their info its pushing 150MB/day (4.5GB/mo) of intelligence to them on your possibly capped internet connection. My power company already spies on me thru a smart meter. Why pay to add another?
  • by nukenerd ( 172703 ) on Thursday May 21, 2020 @11:41AM (#60087016)
    FTFA:-

    the devices tend to be popular with tech-savvy early adopters

    No, I'd say it was popular with hipsters who pose as tech savvy. Real tech-savvy people don't need a gadget to tell them that a washing machine uses more electricity than a light bulb.

    • by swillden ( 191260 ) <shawn-ds@willden.org> on Thursday May 21, 2020 @01:43PM (#60087494) Journal

      FTFA:-

      the devices tend to be popular with tech-savvy early adopters

      No, I'd say it was popular with hipsters who pose as tech savvy. Real tech-savvy people don't need a gadget to tell them that a washing machine uses more electricity than a light bulb.

      Identifying differences in power consumption between devices isn't the point of such a power-monitoring system (and, yes, I have one, though not this brand). The point is to identify patterns in usage and deviations from patterns. If you're using unexpected amounts of power, you find out why.

      For one example: When I first got mine, I discovered I had a phantom 400W draw somewhere in the house. It turned out that it was a temperature-activated fan in the attic, intended to keep the attic cool on hot days, but the fan was overpowered and inefficient as well as installed badly so it didn't move as much air as it should for such a beast of a fan. Rather than replace it, I instead installed a couple of turbine ventilators in the roof, which are powered by the hot air flowing through them. The result was that the fan then ran so rarely that it wasn't worth replacing it (and it actually did move enough hot air out of the attic that it paid for itself in reduced AC costs when it needed to run).

      For another example, I'm now on a time-of-use plan that makes my electricity dirt cheap most of the day (3.4 cents per kWh) but pretty expensive for a few hours a day (34 cents per kWh). I have monitoring set up so that my phone alerts me if the current cost per hour rises above a certain threshold. This basically only happens if someone turns on a high-draw appliance (or starts charging one of the EVs -- the chargers normally refuse to charge during peak hours, but this can be overidden) during peak hours, so I can look into what's going on.

      I also monitor overall consumption and periodically do an analysis to figure out what can be turned off or unplugged. The home monitor has the ability to monitor individual circuits, which helps, but I do end up going around with the kill-a-watt device to measure individual draws. I obviously know the difference between a washing machine and an (LED) light, but with many "smarter" appliances it's really not clear how much they use. The label tells you about their maximum draw, but not about their pattern of consumption.

  • Here's the actual NYT article, which has the headline content, AND the electricity usage content further down the same article:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/0... [nytimes.com]

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