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Firefox 77 Arrives With Faster JavaScript Debugging and Optional Permissions (venturebeat.com) 30

Posted by msmash from the moving-forward dept.
An anonymous reader writes: Mozilla today launched Firefox 77 for Windows, Mac, and Linux. Firefox 77 includes faster JavaScript debugging, optional permissions for extensions, and Pocket recommendations in the U.K. You can download Firefox 77 for desktop now from Firefox.com, and all existing users should be able to upgrade to it automatically. According to Mozilla, Firefox has about 250 million active users, making it a major platform for web developers to consider. [...] Other than Pocket recommendations arriving in the U.K. (they've been in Canada, Germany, and the U.S. since April 2018), this is primarily a developer release. Firefox's Debugger is now better at handling large web apps with all their bundling, live reloading, and dependencies. Mozilla is promising performance improvements that speed up pausing and stepping, as well as cutting down on memory usage over time. Source maps should also see performance boosts -- some inline source maps load 10 times faster -- and improved reliability for many configurations. The debugger will now also respect the currently selected stack when stepping, which is useful when you've stepped into a function call or paused in a library method further down in the stack.
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  • Censorship (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Twinbee ( 767046 ) on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @10:45AM (#60135854)
    Still not happy with Firefox since the cracks have started to show them engaging in censorship [reclaimthenet.org] and other SJW tactics as documented on Reddit [reddit.com].

    • Re:Censorship (Score:5, Insightful)

      by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @01:23PM (#60136644)

      Honestly I struggle to get behind this view. If we judge software based on twattery of some dude at some company that is involved with the project then we may as well toss our computers in the trash and go back to using pen and paper. Every company ever has had some toxic shit thrown around inside it, and frankly quite often it's at senior levels.

      This post brought to you through the service of Slashdot, which has in the past year also deleted posts of users. Why do you support a double standard by ignoring Slashdot but vilifying Mozilla?

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by Twinbee ( 767046 )
        > Why do you support a double standard by ignoring Slashdot but vilifying Mozilla?

        Perhaps you can bring me up to speed on that. I'm an early Slashdot user, but until recently, haven't posted for ages. I think I heard something about the old owners selling out to the new ones who are more pro-censorship? Is that flag button new for instance? What kind of stuff gets censored here? Are we talking removing comments too, or just posts? Because if it's the latter, that's still a massive step up above other
  • Had to turn Pocket off a few days ago. I don't actually begrudge companies doing some advertising, so I was ok with the concept, but the articles they were recommending were so stupid I couldn't stand it any more. If there was a way to mark "don't recommend this site" or "don't recommended articles like this" I would have kept it on.

    • Had to turn Pocket off a few days ago. I don't actually begrudge companies doing some advertising, so I was ok with the concept, but the articles they were recommending were so stupid I couldn't stand it any more.

      Yep, the articles they suggest are beyond moronic; crap like, "You've Been Drinking Water The Wrong Way", "What Happens When You Stare At The Sun?", "Is Your Pet Psychic?" and so on. Pure drivel.

  • The slow/unreliable debugging experience in Firefox when using bundled code with sourcemaps was one of the main reasons I have stuck with Chrome for web development thus far, despite Firefox's progress in providing advanced CSS debugging. As I recall there were also problems debugging into async callbacks, a feature Chrome didn't implement until a couple of years ago.. so hopefully that is sorted too. I guess it's time to give FF another spin...

  • Had to google. More pointless (no doubt sponsored) crap shoehorned in that nobody asked for and if they wanted it could install it as a plug-in later.

  • AVIF support (Score:3)

    by Artem S. Tashkinov ( 764309 ) on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @11:13AM (#60135980) Homepage
    Many news outlets mistakenly report that Firefox 77 supports AVIF image decoding out of the box. This is not entirely true: while the feature is there, it's not enabled by default (could be enabled via about:config -> image.avif.enabled = true).

  • Firefox data collection task - enabled (Score:3)

    by QuietLagoon ( 813062 ) on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @11:17AM (#60135992)
    The version 77 update re-enabled (without asking me or informing me) the Mozilla data-collection task in Windows Task Scheduler, even after I had disabled it the last time I ran a Firefox update. In my Firefox preferences, I have disabled all the data collection tasks, yet Mozilla thinks it is OK to try to sneak this data collection task onto my PC without informing me.

    .
    With Firefox 75, we’re launching a new scheduled task for Windows https://blog.mozilla.org/data/... [mozilla.org]

    • I have disabled all the data collection tasks, yet Mozilla thinks it is OK to try to sneak this data collection task onto my PC without informing me.

      The presence of a running service does not mean anything and re-enabling it only shows that the installer sets up the software in some default way. Now if you can point to the software ignoring the setting that is set and sending data anyway then and only then would I be willing to subscribe to your newsletter.

      • I'm not asking anyone to subscribe to any newsletter. I said what I said, in spite of my setting of options to disable sending telemetry to Mozilla, they install and enable a scheduled task (without my permission or even informing they are doing so) to do just that, i.e., send telemetry to Mozilla. Indeed, near the beginning of the article I cited, Mozilla says, "...We’re collecting information...".

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by antdude ( 79039 )

      Where is this under? I don't see it in my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1.

  • Also the FTP protocol is now disabled [mozilla.org] by default. Could be enabled via about:config -> network.ftp.enabled = true.
  • The whole Internet Explorer anti trust lawsuits were for nothing. Chrome rules the internet and Firefox obey's Google. Waterfox my previous browser got sold out. Internet freedom is under threat from governments (Section 230 being compromised) and corporations (including Mozilla corpoation). I said what I think about Firefox more than enough times, it's just that Firefox releases so often that debate happens again and again and we make no progress.

    Project Gemini [gemini.circumlunar.space] gives me some hope though, as a new opport
  • The last I knew, the state of the art in Java/Javascript was to use printf() calls, which is truly pathetic. Is there actually a debugger?

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by _merlin ( 160982 )

      The major browsers have had interactive debuggers for at least a decade. You can set breakpoints, examine activation contexts, modify variables, evaluate expressions, and even edit and continue in some cases.

  • Option to disable "megabar" no longer works. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by fahrbot-bot ( 874524 ) on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @01:16PM (#60136596)

    The "megabar" thing is back 'cause the config setting to disable it "browser.urlbar.update1=false" no longer appears to function; am researching how to disable this now, but am currently not hopeful. (sigh)

    Dear Firefox Developers, Why is enlarging the urlbar so important that it must be mandatory? For that matter, why is it even a thing? I don't want/need it larger when I focus it. It's distracting. Maybe it's a good thing on a phone, when using your finger, but it's not needed on the desktop. You know phones and desktops are different things, right? Please re-enable a way to disable this. Thanks.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by vrt3 ( 62368 )

      I don't understand it. I really truly don't understand this "feature". What is the advantage? What is the problem with making it optional?

      Can someone explain to me why this "feature" is worth the time and effort of the developer(s) who implemented it, and the disappointment of users like me who much prefer the normal non-obtrusive method of not blowing up user interface elements? I don't mean vague abstract words that don't really mean anything; I mean real concrete reasons for why the new behavior is bette

    • Re:Option to disable "megabar" no longer works. (Score:4, Informative)

      by fahrbot-bot ( 874524 ) on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @01:48PM (#60136754)

      Also, mentioned in the release notes:

      The "browser.urlbar.oneOffSearches" preference has been removed. To hide one-off search buttons uncheck search engines on the about:preferences#search page

    • Dear Firefox Developers, Why is enlarging the urlbar so important that it must be mandatory?

      I ask the same question.

    • This is exactly why I've abandoned Firefox except for a couple of rarely-needed niche uses. It's still on my computer, but I only use it maybe four or five times a year.

    • Dear Firefox Developers, Why is enlarging the urlbar so important that it must be mandatory? For that matter, why is it even a thing? I don't want/need it larger when I focus it.

      Shhhshshshhshhhhh this is UX. Highly complicated stuff. You can't expect a user to understand. Just go with the experience.

    • You can disable this with a userChrome.css file, yes we shouldn't have to do it but at least it's a workaround.

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