Desert Quakes May Have Boosted Chances of 'Big One' Striking California (sciencemag.org) 61
sciencehabit shares a report from Science Magazine: A pair of earthquakes that struck the remote California desert 1 year ago have raised the risk of 'the big one' hitting Southern California, according to a new study. The research finds that the 2019 Ridgecrest, California, quakes shifted underground stresses, making the San Andreas fault -- the state's longest and most dangerous fault -- three times more likely to rupture. U.S. Geological Survey estimates for the annual probability of an earthquake on this part of the San Andreas are about one-third of a percent -- equivalent to expecting a magnitude 7.8 every 300 years, on average. The new modeling triples that hazard to 1% per year -- or a big one every century. And if the Garlock actually does rupture, then the hazard really rises on the San Andreas, by a factor of 150: The probability of a big one rises to 50% in the following year. In principle, a Garlock earthquake could lead to rupture on the San Andreas in a matter of hours or days, much as the two Ridgecrest events came within a day or two. USGS regional scenarios anticipate 1,800 deaths and 50,000 injuries in the event of a major San Andreas earthquake. More than 3 million homes could be damaged, at a reconstruction cost of $289 billion. The study has been published in the Bulletin of the Seismological Society of America.
This whole article is written (Score:2)
as IF it's gonna happen, but it's really WHEN.
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Re:This whole article is written (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:This whole article is written (Score:5, Funny)
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Judging from how 2020 has been going so far, it will happen this year.
Good.
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Remember back at the end of 2018 when a bunch of celebrities died and a bunch of people couldn't wait to be in 2019?
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Re:Couple hundred billion? (Score:4, Funny)
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Typically you get to use the land again. Buildings don't really cost that much.
Some people won't get to use the land again, of course. They'll be really screwed. And for everyone who *doesn't* own property sitting on a major fault, that property might obtain a more sane valuation after it's demonstrated that "about once in 300 years on average" doesn't mean "300 years from now."
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The property will still be there, which is the real cost. I'll guarantee you that no one is spending a million dollars to **build** a two bedroom house, they're spending $900,000 on a piece of property and $100,000 on a building. As any competent realtor will tell you, the three things to consider in purchasing real estate are:
1) Location
2) Location
3) Location
In my neighborhood in Bellevue, WA, they're purchasing nice 40 year-old 2,000 square foot 3-bedroom houses for a million dollars, bulldozing the hou
Add that to the list... (Score:1)
...of reasons not to move to California.
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Then why is it so damned crowded?
Re:Yes I know (Score:5, Insightful)
Please don't bring politics to a thread entirely unrelated to politics.
We get it, many many people don't like Trump, I don't even like Trump but this childish bullshit is trolling up the site and the internet in general. Stop being obsessed, head to a political site if you're going to have a cry about politics please.
Re:Yes I know (Score:5, Insightful)
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
Winston Churchill
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The lefties can't seem to leave politics out of any discussion. To be honest, I don't see the other side starting these food fights...just succumbing to the urge to respond to getting trolled. I agree that it's stupid and a waste of everyone's time. There are plenty of other sites for this crap where people WANT to discuss this ad nauseum. Go there.
You do see the irony with your post, yes?
right... (Score:2)
It's not that it's wrong to discuss politics it's that the message doesn't agree with the echo chamber and the 0.1%, so just don't bring it up.
Been hearing this my entire life (Score:4, Interesting)
Yes, there will eventually be another huge quake.
Every time there's a few tremors they trot out the same copy paste articles about "this could be a sign!"
And when it finally does happen whoever re-printed the most recent copy paste will claim to be a genius and sell a book and go on the talk show circuit but no one will ask or mention the 5000 previous times it could have been it and wasn't.
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I see you are taking your own advice?
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They could forecast it, if they made the effort. Drill holes deep down and record the nature of each layer in the fault zone. Connect up special sensors to measure sound transmission through the solid material of each layer and the higher the frequency relative to sound origin, the greater the tension the rock layer is under. Start calculating likely rock face failure for the rock types for the various layers, and forecast the build up of forces as those forces distribute out through fault zones, load shift
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You mean drill holes deep down, letting in water, which lubricates the fault and makes an earthquake more likely. Good show, armchair coach!
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Re:Been hearing this my entire life (Score:4, Insightful)
Yes, there will eventually be another huge quake.
That's the thing... eventually. Eventually, people will become complacent and be uprepared when it happens. Just like when Hurricane Katrina [archive.org] hit New Orleans, or the current COVID pandemic. These things were predicted, but we grew complacent. Being prepared is expensive, and we decide to use the money for instant gratification.
I know we've heard about "The Big One" for decades, but it's important to keep it in everyone's mind.
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Bingo! Bingo! (Score:2)
Roadtrip time (Score:2)
You'll have before and after photos for Instagram.
Before the Big One...its your last chance to see what its like either side of the San Andreas. Checkout Wildrose Peak, Death Valley, CA its charcoal kilns and wonder what must've been to support 7 of them burning full time and what created the peak in the middle of the Mojave. Visit the Great Basin bristlecone, oldest pine trees growing high in the White Mountains of Inyo County in eastern California. Photo-op the 20 Mule Team Road sign of borax fame. Tu
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I dunno...I don't think you'd want to be caught out there when it does happen.
It would not be a pretty sight, and you'd have a hell of a time getting out of there.
Any real geology geeks here? (Score:2)
Thereâ(TM)s something that these articles never answer about the San Andres. And Iâ(TM)ve never found a satisfactory answer myself.
These articles always talk about the threat of the San Andres wrecking the hell out of San Francisco or Los Angeles. But the fault runs 2/3rds the length of California. Then it moves offshore and keeps going north. So, when âoethe big oneâ hits, why isnâ(TM)t it just as likely... more likely even... that itâ(TM)ll hit in a rural area out where it wi
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Almost certainly the epicenter of a major event will most likely be in a rural area, but effects won't be confined there. An 8.0 earthquake 50 miles from San Francisco will still be a 7.8 or more by the time the wave propagates that far. No one cares much if a barn in rural nowhere is directly above the epicenter and turns to rubble, but if every window of the Transamerica Pyramid in San Francisco is shattered it's a big deal.
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Plus we have Mount Rainier with its glaciers. The last time Rainier woke up 60 mph mud lahars traveled all the way to Puget Sound and Lake Washington (which is why Renton is so flat). The wave from the lahar hitting Lake Washington traveled (IIRC) several miles inland at the north end of the lake. One of the highest tsunami high-water marks in the world is from a cliff collapse (possibly triggered by a tremor) into the Puget Sound that resulted in a wave traveling several hundred feet up the walls of a f
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Remember when 1,800 deaths sounded like a lot? (Score:2)
Remember when 1,800 deaths sounded like a lot? It's just noise now, thanks to the US government's response to the pandemic.
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No.
We have that many from old age DAILY. Well, actually we have about 6x that many deaths daily.
In the USA, of course. Worldwide, 1800 deaths is about ten minutes worth....