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TikTok Says the Trump Administration Has Forgotten About Trying To Ban it, Would Like To Know What's Up (theverge.com) 138

TikTok has filed a petition in a US Court of Appeals calling for a review of actions by the Trump administration's Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS). The reason, according to the company, is that it hasn't heard from the committee in weeks about an imminent deadline for parent company ByteDance to sell off US assets over national security concerns. From a report: The CFIUS set the deadline of November 12th for TikTok to divest itself of "any tangible or intangible assets or property, wherever located, used to enable or support ByteDance's operation of the TikTok application in the United States." TikTok says it applied for a 30-day extension that was allowed for in the CFIUS' order, but hasn't received any communication on the matter. It's not clear what would actually happen if the deadline passed; TikTok was granted a preliminary injunction against it late last month.
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TikTok Says the Trump Administration Has Forgotten About Trying To Ban it, Would Like To Know What's Up

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  • by etash ( 1907284 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @11:30AM (#60711506)
    when politicians do things not because they mean it but because they want more votes
    • "when politicians do things not because they mean it but because they want more votes"

      Not that they not also have the attention span of a gnat.

      • Not that they not also have the attention span of a gnat.

        I have the attention span of a gnat, too. That's why I'm now googling 'attention span of a gnat' which, it turns out, is a not-insignficant 0.210005 of a second!

    • by mysidia ( 191772 )

      I guess so... since the election is over and Trump's administration will be out of those offices come January 20; it would be a pointless exercise for them to pursue the TikTok charade any further.

    • You mean, whenever politicians do things?

  • by SirSlud ( 67381 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @11:30AM (#60711508) Homepage

    trying to get the American populace to buy into a collective delusion is project du jour

  • Iâ(TM)m totally blown away this was a stupid election stunt by a fucking moron.
    • Trump promised to drain the swamp. He just didn't clarify it was into a blender to make shit slushies. But to use an old saying -- whose the fool, the fool or the fool who follows...

  • by jellomizer ( 103300 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @11:38AM (#60711536)

    He is currently in the middle of having a Temper Tantrum, because he Lost the Elections. Unlike previous presidents who had lost, but they stilled cared for America, worked to make sure the transition was seamless and smooth. Our current president is trying to see how much damage he can do before he leaves.

    TicTok is no longer a priority, because he is too busy firing people who is trying their best to keep America Running, and working on a graceful transition for next year.

    • by mark-t ( 151149 )

      Our current president is trying to see how much damage he can do before he leaves.

      I cannot be the only person who finds this notion mildly frightening, because until January 20th, this man still does have control over the USA's nuclear launch codes.

      • Surely he can't fire them all by himself.

        (does he even know how the control box works?)

        • He can, basically. The level of autonomy the POTUS has over the nuclear arsenal is frightening.

          • He can deliver the codes to the military folks that actually pull the trigger, but he's not carrying around a big red "nuke everyone" button in that briefcase. I would hope the military leadership would have standing orders that we check if there's a valid reason to launch before going live with it at this point. Especially with how erratic the shit-stirrer in chief has been over the last four years.

            I don't doubt there's a level above zero percent that this could happen, but I still see it as a fairly min

        • I wouldn't want to live in Cofefe if he can.
      • by ranton ( 36917 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @02:38PM (#60712258)

        I'm not worried too much about nuclear launch codes, as I feel there are some safeguards to prevent him from firing them off for no good reason. But for a man in debt or a man who just wants to build his wealth, I wonder what our national secrets are worth to the highest bidder. Hopefully we can rely on Trump barely knowing how to read and not having the memory necessary to give detailed enough information in exchange for building permits abroad.

      • by ghoul ( 157158 )
        Believe me Iran, Cuba and Venezuela are a lot more worried than any American. Trump is the only President to not start a new war. He has 2 months to set the record straight.
      • by tsa ( 15680 )

        Only mildly frightening? He can still break so much that Biden needs to spend the coming four years fixing all that.

    • What happened to the President-elect Trump that said "I want to be a President for all americans, not just the ones who voted for me." ... yeah, he probably fired that speech writer.

      • by dunkelfalke ( 91624 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:06PM (#60711616)

        Same thing that happened to the candidate Trump who said, that unlike Obama, he would be too busy to play golf.

      • What happened to the President-elect Trump that said "I want to be a President for all americans, not just the ones who voted for me." ... yeah, he probably fired that speech writer.

        Pretty sure that person never existed, since the quote you just gave is—with "support me in this election" in place of "voted for me"—something said verbatim by his opponent in her final campaign ad for the 2016 election [time.com]. In searching around for the last several minutes, I can't find any significant portion of that quote attributable to Trump. In fact, my recollection was that he said nothing of the sort prior to the election, nor as President-elect, nor at or after his inauguration, and that he

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @11:57AM (#60711594) Homepage Journal

      If I were Biden I'd be straight on the phone to those people Trump is firing, assuring them that if they can hold on to January they will be back in their jobs with full back-pay to cover the 70 days of unemployment.

      Surely though Trump knows that stacking the military with his own picks won't help, Biden will just replace them. That makes it much more sinister, what is he planning to do in the next 70 days that having high ranking military personnel on his side helps with?

      • It is highly doubtful this can be done. These are positions at will, meaning they serve at the whim of the person in office. Once you're fired, that's it.

        That said, they could be rehired into their former positions, as has been suggested to do for Andrew McCabe who, in a petty act by the failure in chief, was fired just days before he would have had his full pension. McCabe could be rehired, serve a week or two which would get him to the magical amount of time, then retire with full benefits.

        • That said, they could be rehired into their former positions, as has been suggested to do for Andrew McCabe who, in a petty act by the failure in chief,
          Whoa there chief, not sure Andrew McCabe is the hill you want to die on. Besides if his dismissal wasn't above board, let him continue his wrongful dismissal suit. Of course when you or I "lack candor" with the FBI, we wind up in a courtroom or jail, he only got fired.
          • Of course when you or I "lack candor" with the FBI, we wind up in a courtroom or jail, he only got fired.

            Lacking candor is not the same as committing a crime. However, if you believe it is, then the same applies to Carter Page who outright lied to people, yet he's held up as some hero.

            McCabe is an easy win for Biden since no crime was committed and what was alleged doesn't remotely rise to the level of a fireable offense. At best a reprimand and letter in his file.

            The only reason McCabe lost his job is be

      • by Nidi62 ( 1525137 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:12PM (#60711630)

        If I were Biden I'd be straight on the phone to those people Trump is firing, assuring them that if they can hold on to January they will be back in their jobs with full back-pay to cover the 70 days of unemployment.

        Surely though Trump knows that stacking the military with his own picks won't help, Biden will just replace them. That makes it much more sinister, what is he planning to do in the next 70 days that having high ranking military personnel on his side helps with?

        Trump is trying to install his own version of a "deep state". Not a surprise, really. He tends to project his own characteristics or tendencies onto his enemies/targets, so it would be expected that he would try to create his own deep state to counter the (supposed) deep state that he has been complaining about for the last 4 years.

      • My worry is he will create some crisis (like a staged attack? or even start a war?) and claim emergency wartime powers. Then the line will be "we can't switch presidents while we're under attack".

      • If I were Biden I'd be straight on the phone to those people Trump is firing, assuring them that if they can hold on to January they will be back in their jobs with full back-pay to cover the 70 days of unemployment.

        That makes no sense. This Whitehouse has been marked by the worst attrition rate of any government. Literally the people being fired were hired by Trump as loyalists to Trump in the first place. That doesn't make them good or worthy of keeping. Hell a lot of them are just getting what they deserve for being post turtles in the first place.

        Is that an Australian saying? Post turtle? Literally turtle on a post, elevated to a position they didn't think they'd get into and unable to do anything once they are the

      • because Biden'll have to rehire all those people. The goal is going to be to do as much damage as they can in the next 2 months. Then McConnell takes over doing as much damage as he can for the next 2 years. If all goes well the GOP takes back Congress in 2022 and the Presidency in 2024.

        The takeway? The GOP will hurt all of America to hang onto a big of power.
    • by Joce640k ( 829181 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:08PM (#60711622) Homepage

      He is currently in the middle of having a Temper Tantrum, because he Lost the Elections.

      https://twitter.com/SweetttGot... [twitter.com]

    • Unlike previous presidents who had lost, but they stilled cared for America, worked to make sure the transition was seamless and smooth.

      https://www.wsj.com/articles/t... [wsj.com]

      Oops.

      • Yes, that fat dipshit was also a problem in his transition _to_ the Presidency, now he's being one on his way out. Good point.
    • He is currently in the middle of having a Temper Tantrum, because he Lost the Elections. Unlike previous presidents who had lost, but they stilled cared for America, worked to make sure the transition was seamless and smooth. Our current president is trying to see how much damage he can do before he leaves.

      TicTok is no longer a priority, because he is too busy firing people who is trying their best to keep America Running, and working on a graceful transition for next year.

      And seeing how much more money he and the RNC can raise: Trump’s Claims of Election Fraud Are One Last Cynical Push to Raise Money and Maintain Influence [slate.com]

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  • Breaking News (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Synonymous Cowered ( 6159202 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @11:43AM (#60711546)

    Breaking News: Donald Trump more interested in announcements of things getting done than in actually getting things done. Where have I heard this before? Ukraine investigation of Hunter Biden. Foxconn factory in Wisconsin. The list goes on.

    • by HiThere ( 15173 )

      At this point I really hope that's true.

    • Also remembered how Trump bravely defeated CoVID with his bare hands. Not enough people give him credit for that.
    • Recall the first campaign promise he ever broke: to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary Clinton. That promise lasted until November 22nd of 2016.
  • Deeply pathetic (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Dixie_Flatline ( 5077 ) <<moc.liamg> <ta> <hog.naj.tnecniv>> on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @11:45AM (#60711552) Homepage

    Leaving aside your partisan leanings—and I know this is hard—the Trump administration has been bad at dealing with the day-to-day operations of government. The churn in the appointments and the general lack of direction end up with situations like this. This isn't particularly unusual or surprising.

    Maybe you agree with Trump on ideological grounds, but the fact of the matter is that his appointments are broadly incompetent and this last 4 years has been nothing but unforced errors.

    • Re:Deeply pathetic (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Stormthirst ( 66538 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @11:55AM (#60711590)

      It's almost as if the notion of "anyone can be president" or "running the country like a business" is a really bad idea

      • Re:Deeply pathetic (Score:5, Insightful)

        by quonset ( 4839537 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:09PM (#60711626)

        Running the country like a business isn't an all-together bad idea, it just shouldn't be implemented by someone who has 16 failed businesses, 6 personal bankruptcies, and is on their third failed marriage.

      • It depends on how productive you want the country to be. It's this classic argument for "checks and balances". You minimize the maximum loss but you also minimize the maximum gain. I had a friend in college who was a history major always say, having a King can be the best thing for a country but it can also be the worst and most heinous thing for a country. When the King is wise, prudent, and cares for his country -- often it's the most effective form of government. When we aren't, well we all know such hor

        • he was successful in that he stopped the gov't from doing many things

          I was somewhat receptive to the argument that "oh well he hasn't caused any direct harm" until coronavirus. Sometimes there are problems that need to be dealt with. Now a quarter-million Americans are dead. I cannot claim to know precisely how many might have been saved with better leadership, but it is indisuputable we have done very badly compared to peer nations.

          The list of nations above us in deaths per capita is not company the

          • Yeah. I agree this was his most significant screw up. I think the issue though is the argument that no one man is responsible for the outcome. The same concept of "checks and balances" emphasizes a balance of state power and federal power among other division of resources. Trump is clearly the weak link the chain in this case but I am unsure how much better things would of been if he would of been science-based and prescriptive with solutions that work to combat the virus. Republican states could of equally

      • Re:Deeply pathetic (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Wraithlyn ( 133796 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @01:34PM (#60711940)

        "The president is an idiot. [...] He is just a businessman without the basic understanding of national security. [...] Everything is a business transaction for him and making money is winning to him and the only thing that matters. [...]. The president wanted to sell nuclear-powered submarines to the South Koreans, and I had to talk him out of it, explaining why this was a bad idea."

        - General John E. Hyten, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (source [people.com])

      • Or the idea that it is not easy to run a country. I mean every President before him suddenly got younger looking when taking office.
    • It is in a large part because of their lack of staffing. The administration has simply failed to attempt to fill many positions, has had a very hard time filling positions, and to top it off has had very high turnover in the positions that were filled, seemingly of its own volition. As a result there aren't many hands on deck, so things don't get filed, reports don't get read, and decisions are not made. (there are other issues with decision making, the environment is one where the President arbitrarily ove

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      Are Trump's corporations like this? Does he have massive turn-over of staff?

      • by dryeo ( 100693 )

        The reality TV star was famous for his line, "You're Fired". The business man was famous for not paying people after firing them.

      • I don’t know about all his staff but I do know his lawyers have had to sue him to be paid which is not a good sign.
    • by hey! ( 33014 )

      Since Trump lost the election, they've been paying a lot of attention to restaffing the top civilian jobs at the Pentagon though, which is slightly worrying. Just because somebody has a track record of not following through doesn't mean he won't act when his own self-interest is at stake.

    • Maybe you agree with Trump on ideological grounds, but the fact of the matter is that his appointments are broadly incompetent and this last 4 years has been nothing but unforced errors.

      We all know that Trump only hires the best people (because he tells us it is so) and he only fires incompetent twits. The fact that these have often been the same person in no way reflects on Trump and he accepts no responsibility for it.

  • When it is not relevant for the preparations of the upcoming coup, it is for Later.
  • by gnasher719 ( 869701 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:05PM (#60711610)
    Donald Trump has the attention span of a gnat. Or a dead goldfish, if you prefer that. Unless he blames TikTok for losing the election, they are out of sight, out of mind.

    TikTok, just stay quiet, Don't ask any questions. Trump will forget you, Biden isn't interested. Draw no attention on yourself.
  • by gavron ( 1300111 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:06PM (#60711614)

    TRUMP is a loser. A poor loser, but a loser nonetheless.

    Now that he has to focus on bogus lawsuits and pretending he got re-elected,
    he has less legal time to after TikTok.

    Heck, he's renting out landscaping company warehouses and train depot
    warehouses and STILL nobody's showing up.

    Pathetic. But there's your reason. TRUMP is a LOSER.

    E
    P.S. For those who are fans of the idiot, good for you. Glad you have an opinion. Don't want to hear it. I'm closed minded because I think the POTUS should be mentally stable, able, and have knowledge above a first grader.

  • by Merk42 ( 1906718 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:11PM (#60711628)
    But when Kesha answered, she was very confused as to why they wanted to ban her 2009 song.
  • TikTok Forgotten (Score:4, Insightful)

    by phalse phace ( 454635 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:13PM (#60711634)

    because there are no more Trump re-election rallies to hold.

    Wasn't part of the reason for banning TikTok was to prevent their users from organizing and sabotaging Trump rallies like with the one in Tulsa, Oklahoma?

    • by Nidi62 ( 1525137 )

      because there are no more Trump re-election rallies to hold.

      You think just because the election is over Trump is going to stop holding rallies?

      • because there are no more Trump re-election rallies to hold.

        You think just because the election is over Trump is going to stop holding rallies?

        That's not what I wrote.

      • Trump is going to stop holding rallies?

        Rallies and re-election rallies are not the same thing.

        • Rallies and re-election rallies are not the same thing.

          Trump can continue to hold re-election rallies. He probably will. He can still be re-elected. He has been elected once. He is still eligible for a second term. Any rallies he holds in an effort to get re-elected in 2024 are re-election rallies.

          Personally I expect Trump's next re-election rally to be January 20th. He's that petty and that narcissistic.

  • After the deadline they will find out, one way or another. How many injunctions does one company need?
  • Someone should throw away all pen's @ the wh and turn of the heat with fingerless mittens around the house.
  • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:46PM (#60711734)
    and Trump can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

    Tik Tok was always about one thing, youth were organizing politically on it and the right wing will always attack youth political organization when it happens organically (they're happy to create stuff like "alt-right" with their think tanks though, but only when they've got strict control of the message).

    Young people swing left because they are less conservative and the right wing's message of Nationalism, traditional (read: archaic) values and low taxes only appeals to conservatives who are frightened of change (because as Abe Simpson once said, "I used to be with it!"). The young are the natural enemies of the right wing and as such any attempt by them to politically organize will always be attacked. With Nixon's drug war very slowly winding down they're going to have to do something.
  • This is all because he's to busy trying to stay King. His time is circling the drain and he's afraid of the pending legal issues as a civilian.

    • One thing I really look forward is his tenure as most hated man in America, which he will be - by far. Having 20 million retards who worship you is little consolation when 100+million Americans absolutely fucking loathe you, and another 100+million who see you as sideshow entertainment at best.

      He's lucky he'll have secret service protection or he'd be constantly milkshaked, spat on, or worse. As it stands he's a fool if he ever eats fast food that anyone knows he will be eating, or it'll be more cum and thi

  • lol
  • by r1348 ( 2567295 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @03:27PM (#60712420)

    The Trump administration has the same attention span of a toddler, but acts less rationally.

  • You're in luck, President Trump has apparently grown bored with trying to ban you, and his administration is a bit occupied with trying to change the results of a free and fair election in order to retain power. For you, this is probably a good thing, but for the rest of us, not so much.

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