GitHub Admits 'Significant Mistakes Were Made' in Firing of Jewish Employee (theverge.com) 270
GitHub is admitting that a Jewish employee was fired in error and is offering him his job back. The news comes after the company hired an independent law firm to investigate the termination, and found that "significant mistakes were made." The company's head of HR, Carrie Olesen, is also resigning. From a report: "Yesterday evening, the investigation reached the conclusion that significant mistakes were made that are not consistent with our internal practices or the judgement we expect from our leaders," wrote GitHub CEO Nat Friedman in an internal message to employees on January 16th. He said the company would be issuing a public apology on its blog this weekend. In the post, GitHub COO Erica Brescia said: "To the employee we wish to say publicly: we sincerely apologize." The controversial firing came just two days after the employee warned colleagues in Washington DC to stay safe from Nazis -- news first reported by Business Insider. He posted the message on January 6th, the day of the insurrection in Washington DC, as rioters associated with neo-Nazi organizations stormed the Capitol. The warning sparked criticism from a colleague who took offense at the use of the word "Nazi" and prompted GitHub's HR team to reprimand the Jewish employee. Two days later, he was fired.
If it looks like a Nazi, and walks like a Nazi (Score:2, Insightful)
...it's probably not a duck.
If a "protestor" (*cough*insurrectionist*cough*) is wearing N@zi imagery and shouting N@zi slogans, or if they're just happy to march with those who are, they're either a N@zi or close enough to being one as makes no actual difference.
It makes ZERO difference whether someone is a historical N@zi or a Neo-N@zi, either way you've gotta watch out they don't lynch you. They share the same ideals, and have the same ideas about how to solve their "problems".
Re:If it looks like a Nazi, and walks like a Nazi (Score:5, Informative)
Probably talking about this guy https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j... [s-nbcnews.com]
The back of his shirt says "staff" by the way.
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Well, there are lots of examples.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/09... [cnn.com]
That's just one guide. It doesn't focus solely on the N@zi stuff, though.
https://www.rollingstone.com/c... [rollingstone.com]
https://www.jta.org/2021/01/07... [jta.org]
I had another link but the link contained "na" right before "zi" and the filter wouldn't let me post it, because Slashdot filters are apparently designed to protect N@zis from hostile discussion. They certainly haven't stopped the white supremacists from spamming this place.
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Is that our standard now?
If I can find one person in a crowd of Antifa protesters or BLM that is espousing crazy-ass communist dogma or wearing a Che Guevara shirt, does that mean I can legitimately brand everyone there as committed communist revolutionaries?
How about the BLM organizers who cheerfully admit that they are marxists?
What are the standards for group broad-brushing now? Asking for a friend.
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Is that our standard now?
Storm congress in a maga based terrorist attack, and you don't get to choose what you are classed as.
We had some nasty names for groups like the Japanese and Germans, the magas transformed themselves into whatever we want to call them by their attack on the USA. maga, fascist, nasty - hey if the foo shits, you wear it. Funny how Slashdot's lameness filter works. It won't let me use a word that is right in the subthread. I guess titles aren't filtered.
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Is that our standard now?
Storm congress in a maga based terrorist attack, and you don't get to choose what you are classed as.
We had some nasty names for groups like the Japanese and Germans, the magas transformed themselves into whatever we want to call them by their attack on the USA. maga, fascist, nasty - hey if the foo shits, you wear it.
Funny how Slashdot's lameness filter works. It won't let me use a word that is right in the subthread. I guess titles aren't filtered.
The OP's question still stands: is this our standard now? If one person out of a crowd of thousands (or tens of thousands) espouses disgusting views then everyone in that crowd is identically tarred and feathered? If so, then one looter in a BLM protest makes them all looters? One Antifa guy throwing a Molotov cocktail makes all the protesters terrorists? Is this really where you want to go with this? Or are you counting on a double standard where only ideologies you disagree with are painted with
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Yeah, BLM didn't try to take Congress hostage and force it to discount the votes of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Georgia. We don't have to pretend there's some sort of equivalency between the White Nationalists and groups like BLM anymore. White Nationalists are seditionists and insurrectionists who mounted a violent assault on the Congress of the United States of America with the intent of overriding the will of the Electors, heeding the call of President Trump, and possibly with logistical support from som
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Those that busted into the Capitol Building, forcing lawmakers to flee for their lives, and shouting things like "Hang Pence" and "find Pelosi" were very much insurrectionists and seditionists. They had a singular goal, to prevent the certification of Electoral votes from those key states to prevent Joseph R. Biden from being declared President Elect. They seemed to have had some help from some DC police and possibly from some lawmakers, after being egged on by President Trump, Senator Hawley and Senator Cr
Re: If it looks like a Nazi, and walks like a Nazi (Score:5, Insightful)
The OP's question still stands: is this our standard now? If one person out of a crowd of thousands (or tens of thousands) espouses disgusting views then everyone in that crowd is identically tarred and feathered? If so, then one looter in a BLM protest makes them all looters? One Antifa guy throwing a Molotov cocktail makes all the protesters terrorists?
What do you mean now? That standard for BLM protests has remained the same all last year, ask anyone with a MAGA hat. MAGA can't have its own standard applied to their own protests?
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No, N azis are like cockroaches, if you see one there are a hundred in hiding...
I have honestly never seen a BLM activist proudly claim they are Marxists.
Are you using Big Lie techniques... Just like Hitler would?
FYI, you sure sound like one, and now that trump completely destroyed the Godwin Rule, I am free to call your ass out
Re:If it looks like a Nazi, and walks like a Nazi (Score:5, Informative)
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Guardian, left wing. Lol.
I guess it addresses the OP's point, there's one marxist, fair enough. But why should it be a problem?
Re:If it looks like a Nazi, and walks like a Nazi (Score:5, Insightful)
So, on one hand you have a person making a single reference to Marxism over five years ago... ...and on the other hand you have people wearing fascist/n azi insignia (not to mention confederate memorabilia) while attempting to kill the vice president and Congressional leaders.
That is called a "false equivalency" look it up
Re:If it looks like a Nazi, and walks like a Nazi (Score:5, Informative)
I have honestly never seen a BLM activist proudly claim they are Marxists.
https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/... [nypost.com]
Re:If it looks like a Nazi, and walks like a Nazi (Score:4, Insightful)
Most people don't know what a Marxist is anyway. The main reason it's become popular is the anti-Semitic "cultural Marxist" meme. At this point though it's mostly just "someone I disagree with, and by the way I'm a fuckwit."
Re:If it looks like a Nazi, and walks like a Nazi (Score:4, Interesting)
I'm not a Marxist, but a Marxist would be someone who espouses and promotes the political theories of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels; namely collectivization, state-guided economics, limited or no role for free enterprise (trending always towards communal ownership of all industry), democratic institutions at both the political and industrial level (do you remember, Marxism as a theory was developed during the Industrial Era). More odious aspects of Marxism are the implied attacks on the Bourgeoise, seizure of their property and capital, a democratic system that is pretty much set up to insure there's no real competitor to Communism (in other words, all political parties must agree to a greater extent to the overall Marxist economic, social and political programs).
Of course, from there you get Marxist-Leninism, Trotskyism, Stalinism, Maoism and so forth, which to one extent or another tried to force fit an economic and political theory meant to work with the highly industrialized nations of Western Europe to the still largely agrarian countries where Communism was actually adopted. Lenin, for instance, was forced after the Civil War, to actually institute a number of free enterprise reforms to stave off a severe economic retraction.
Modern Marxism has adapted a good deal, but in the end, collectivization, centrally-run economies, democratic institutions even at the worker level, and some degree of ideological uniformity even among competing political movements. So, really, a pretty shitty system with an inherent degree of autocracy, despite "democracy" showing up all over the place in Marxist theory.
Safety (Score:2)
The use of the "Na" word probably caused some people at his place of work to feel unsafe. This is a severe breach of protocol these days. Causing people to feel unsafe, or even uncomfortable, even through general non-targeted speech, is considered violence in some circles.
Re:Safety (Score:5, Funny)
The use of the "Na" word probably caused some people at his place of work to feel unsafe.
Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'na' at will to coworkers. There is a pestilence upon this land. Nothing is sacred. Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic anxiety at this period in history.
Relativity (Score:5, Funny)
I'm pretty sure that saying "Ni" is worse.
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I'm safe. I have my shrubbery ready.
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There are probably companies where you are told "Tell us verbatim what was said when making a complaint about someone's language" and you get written up for saying "He called Ben a coon and a lazy nigg-". The slogan of the world has become "Sticks and stones will break some bones but words will kill minorities."
There is a uncomfortable sense of the inability of s-flakes both left and right to endure any name calling. Tyranny of the weak.
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...it's probably not a duck.
Except when it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
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Some of them try to hide it. They seem to have realized that they over-estimated how acceptable it was with the backlash to the Unite the Right rally, so went back to mostly hiding it.
What tends to give them away is that in the heat of the moment they start shouting and chanting. Fortunately some of them were stupid enough to livesteam their federal crimes on YouTube. Neo-N@zi Tim Gionet, aka Baked Alaska, was recently arrested thanks to him broadcasting his own crimes.
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Re:If it looks like a Nazi, and walks like a Nazi (Score:5, Interesting)
How far removed must you be from someone to be considered not associated with them?
If you're marching in the same rally, and you're not confronting them, then you're marching with them. This really isn't complicated.
There's always going to be opportunists that show up at protests.
Sure, not all of these guys were opportunists. Some of them received reconnaissance briefings and tours ahead of time, and shouted about how this was what all their training was for.
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There's an area where the occasional rally is held between where I live and some shops, I have occasionally had to make my way through a rally on my way there, or back. The perils of living in a decent-sized city.
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If you're marching in the same rally, and you're not confronting them, then you're marching with them. This really isn't complicated.
I'm not sure if that's a good principle or not. But I am ok with it as long as it is applied to rallies with people espousing Communist symbols as well
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I think that should really be amended to marching in the same rally through the police guarding the capitol and then over the walls/through the windows/smashing through the doors. When you get to that point, there does not seem to be much reason not to tar people with the same brush. Although, maybe not one as specific as N.azi. After all, there were clearly different groups involved. Fox news, for example, has been touting the one black, "far-left" person they've been able to find so far. He claims he was
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Meanwhile if you just say the word "n.azi" in any context even one explicitly not supportive you have to worry good well mannered party members like drinkypoo will report you have essentially ejected from society.
Do you get paid to write this shit? Otherwise, I fail to see what your motivation might be except to recalibrate others' definitions of human stupidity, or to show us what a total grammar failure looks like. I suppose either way you've done us a service.
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Do you get paid to write this shit?
I doubt it: the great thing about useful idiots is that they are free.
Thing is him and his ilk hold completely unconscionable opinions which don't hold up to the slightest examination. Yet I bet 100 bucks he prides himself on his rationality. So what's he to do? The only option is to invent a position so insane that even he can win an argument against it and then go on the attack being all rational logic-man.
Having defeates the straw man, he gets a little hit of dopamine
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Meanwhile if you just say the word "n.azi" in any context even one explicitly not supportive you have to worry good well mannered party members like drinkypoo will report you have essentially ejected from society.
Do you get paid to write this shit? Otherwise, I fail to see what your motivation might be except to recalibrate others' definitions of human stupidity, or to show us what a total grammar failure looks like. I suppose either way you've done us a service.
Triggering the nutjobs is showing that you are doing something right, Drinkypoo.
Re:If it looks like a Nazi, and walks like a Nazi (Score:5, Insightful)
Meanwhile if you just say the word "n.azi" in any context even one explicitly not supportive you have to worry good well mannered party members like drinkypoo will report you have essentially ejected from society.
See you at marxist circle tonight comrade.
1) I think it's important not to call all 74 million people who voted for Trump "N.azis".
2) At the same time, I think it's also important to not avoid calling literal n.azis "N.azis" just because they support Trump.
3) I think it's important not to twist the motive of anti-fascists beyond their stated goals, which are explicitly: to oppose fascists (e.g. N.azis), something most people would consider to be a good goal.
4) At the same time, some anti-fascists may need reminders of #1.
You Ds and Rs are stuck living in the same country together. You need to learn to live with each other as best you can, and at least try to focus your hate only on the far fringes of the political spectrum while giving others the benefit of the doubt. If someone says they voted for Trump, don't assume "He's a fascist." If someone says they're anti-fascist, don't assume "She really means anti-Republican". Try to take people at their word, because most people mean what they say.
Re:If it looks like a Nazi, and walks like a Nazi (Score:4, Insightful)
Try to take people at their word, because most people mean what they say.
In my experience, most people don't, because they don't even know what they're saying. Look at all these tools talking about Communist China, when China is provably not Communist. They don't know what the words they are using even mean, how could they possibly use them correctly?
Re:If it looks like a Nazi, and walks like a Nazi (Score:4, Interesting)
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People marching with people wearing paraphernalia and chanting slogans that identify with a group might as well be members of that group, IMO.
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Try to take people at their word, because most people mean what they say.
20% of the Republican party supports the mob that stormed congress and got 5 people killed. That's not a fringe.
You Ds and Rs are stuck living in the same country together. You need to learn to live with each other as best you can...
Previously we did that by accepting the results of elections and then making it hard for the other party to govern. When someone is trying to literally murder you, only a complete fucktard would say, "you need to learn to live with each other'. Kind-of hard to do that when you're dead because of the other.
The Republican party has a very big problem, in that 20% of them are fascists who very much w
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Depends on the nature of their opposition, saying hey this guy's ideas are terrible and bad things will happen if we follow them, ok. Deciding instead that this so called Nahtzee is subhuman, deserves to die and his family also needs to be punished(perhaps re-educated), then I am going to go with no. Simi
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1) I think it's important not to call all 74 million people who voted for Trump "N.azis".
It's probably just as important to not call anyone who didn't vote for Trump "lefties" or "communists" or "socialists". But they do.
However, people who hold the same fascist, racial, and mode of governmental views are the noogies surely didn't vote for Biden.
People who voted for Trump include the following:
Never Democrats, party line voters, the rank and file of the Magas, then the mix of white supremacists, American noogies, those who desire a fascist government, and conspiracy kooks. And some of these
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There are various studies that show most of the US population pretty much agrees on most issues, with most people taking a position somewhere in the centre. The appearance of polarization is entirely manufactured by the two major political parties who want to cordon off a loyal base. The whackos on both sides are valuable idiots for doing that. You're not likely to vote for "the other side" when they're clearly a bunch of Na zis / violent communists, as seen on TV, right?
It's the same tactic propagandists a
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There was at least one guy wearing a "Camp Auschwitz" tee shirt that said "work brings freedom". Are we allowed to conclude that he was a Na zi? A few others wore swastikas, may we conclude they were Na zis?
Huh?! (Score:3, Insightful)
Why is the lame filter not applied to the summary? I saw the dreaded word! It cannot be unseen!
Nazis (was: Re:Huh?!) (Score:3)
The lame filter doesn't apply to titles/headlines. So you can say the N..i word there, but not in the body copy.
You also can't post links with the word in them, because Slashdot gives zero fucks about unintended consequences (or is willfully trying to protect N@zis.)
Re: Nazis (was: Re:Huh?!) (Score:2)
In links, Escaping with urlencode() should work.
Let me try:
git+ssh://%6E%61%7A%69s-in-bikinis/dancing-samba-the-gay-Himmler-way-OS/
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That reminds me of the guy who designed captchas which could not be understood by any software.
And unfortunately not by any human either.
to be clear , it's a joke. My software assists me fine when I cannot understand the captcha.
Re:Huh?! (Score:4, Informative)
It's there to filter the spam that was hitting every story, so it's not needed on summaries that are edited by a human first.
Time to repeal Godwin's Law (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Huh?! (Score:4, Insightful)
Also: filters do not take context or intent into consideration. There is a huge difference between "the N@zi party was founded in 1920" and "you are a fooking N@zi". The modding and reporting system here however can deal with that.
It becomes ridiculous when a forum for flight simulators bans the word "cockpit", since it has no sexual connotation, but of course when everybody has to write "c0ckpit" it highlights the word "c0ck" every time (the forum I'm talking about had to whitelist "cockpit" because it caused too many discussions to go completely off-topic).
The same goes for racial slurs. It are not the words which are offensive, but the way in which they are used. As an aside to illustrate the previous sentence: my first name is pronounced as "koon", and it often happens that Americans or Australians refuse to call me by my name because they consider it as being rude ("Koen" is the short form of "Koenraad", the Dutch & Flemish version of "Conrad").
So if anybody of the
Hubbers? (Score:3, Funny)
Github employees are known as Hubbers? Da fuq?
k.
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Re: Hubbers? (Score:2)
Git the fuck outtta here!
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Some git didn't like being called a git.
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Github employees are known as Hubbers? Da fuq?
I call them Hubologists.
Or, you know, Microsoft Employees. Which is much worse.
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Github employees are known as Hubbers? Da fuq?
The important question is how you distinguish them from PornHub employees.
I wonder... (Score:2)
...if the HR drones are going to get disciplined, or the people (if not HR--article doesn't say) who actually fired him are.
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...if the HR drones are going to get disciplined, or the people (if not HR--article doesn't say) who actually fired him are.
Microsoft-owned GitHub said on Sunday that the company’s head of human resources resigned after an investigation into the company’s dismissal of a Jewish employee.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/1... [cnbc.com]
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The company knows they fucked up badly. They even admitted to wrongdoing and apologized. That almost never happens. They’re hoping they employee doesn’t sue. I’d collect on that fat settlement and move on.
Re: I wonder... (Score:3)
Let's allow people to change whem they noticed something was wrong with them. And companies too.
They admitted to being wrong, try to make it right, and try to leaen from it. What more can one accept? That is fine with me. Nobody's perfect. We've all had our bad times. Amd when in recent times was there ever a more plausible moment to have some bad times?
Fascism is as fascism does ... (Score:5, Informative)
The prominent political scientist defines Robert_Paxton [wikipedia.org] defines fascism as:
... a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.
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Just step into this bunker and take these pills!
Re: Fascism is as fascism does ... (Score:4, Insightful)
The historical difficulty with defining "fascism" has been thinking of it as kind of ideology, when fascists themselves are notoriously unconcerned with consistency in ideological matters. See Umberto Eco's famous essay on "Ur-Fascism", which has been very influential in the academic thought about fascist movements.
Fascist leaders freely contradict themselves and it doesn't bother their followers in the least, so trying to figure out what fascism *is* from what fascists *say* is a fool's errand. For that reason most modern approaches focus on what fascists *do*, as in this case. Such definitions may seem vague as to what fascists *think*, but that's because fascists themselves freely change their beliefs to suit the occasion.
Fascism isn't a creed. It's a playbook.
Nat Friedman is a jew too? (Score:2, Funny)
I don't get it. Aren't they supposed to look out for each others?
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Good ole slashdot...cover a post about antiSemitism and have someone post something borderline antiSemitic in the comments.
First, the more acceptable term is "Jewish". Calling someone a Jew doesn't sound quite right.
and saying "Jews" are "supposed to look out for each other" implies that they have more loyalty to each other than everyone else. It leads to all the familiar antiSemitic tropes about how they're scheming against the gentiles, can't be trusted, etc.
It's the same as with any other ethnic group:
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and saying "Jews" are "supposed to look out for each other" implies that they have more loyalty to each other than everyone else. It leads to all the familiar antiSemitic tropes about how they're scheming against the gentiles, can't be trusted, etc.
Until a Jewish murderer fled to Israel [baltimoresun.com] and was protected by his father, any Jew who committed a crime abroad could not be extradited back to the country to be tried. Certainly sounds likes Jews looking out for each other.
Then there is Bernie Madoff [newvoices.org]. What was in
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A father looking out for his kid is totally normal. Israel doesn't extradite people on principle. However, they did try him for the crime he committed in the US (even paid to fly the family over to watch), and threw him in an Israeli jail. Where he sat for a few years until he decided he wanted to return to the US and its gentler penal system.
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It may also work against the Jewish person - with the person doing the hiring being harder on the Jewish candidate in an attempt to correct subconscious bias..which leads to them actually favoring the gentile over the Jewish person in practice because they're over-correcting.
Can't call nazi a nazi (Score:4, Insightful)
What we see here is that the combination of outrage culture with cancel culture resulted in a grave injustice for a member of a vulnerable minority. Isn't it about time that we think again about these toxic institutions? Maybe scale them down a bit?
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as much as I don’t want to play blame the victim, it feels like we are missing part of this conversation. Hopefully there is a trial (sorry that this person needs to shoulder this) and we can see whether github used common sense and had cause or just went sjw knee jerk.
It just seems odd that the company used this as the final point. It sounds like they had “vaporizing” documented behavior, and it would be fascinating to see what constitutes cause for them.
"Nazi" is a useful term. It means something. (Score:3)
"Naz1" means something in discussions.
Trying to deny that and - worse - banning it does no favours to the decent people of the world and does no harm to the idiots who glorify the original Naz1s.
There is nothing wrong with using it, or derivatives that have special meanings, such as "fem1naz1s" for extremist feminists. Which also has to be misspelt because it is banned here FFS.
Re: "Nazi" is a useful term. It means something. (Score:3)
Using "- n a z i" for other things is not acceptable in central Europe though. Because it makes N a z i s look more harmless than they are, or the thing more harmful than it is. Sure, it's a hyperbole, and hyperboles have a point. But not everyone is gonna understand it that way. Causing the thing and the term to approach each other anyway.
Just like you Americans cannot say you truly hate or truly love anything anymore because you already overused those words in hyperboles for mundane things. You of course
the worker needs an significant payout to cover th (Score:2)
the worker needs an significant payout to cover this maybe 500K - 1M
How is this story even possible on Slashdot? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re: How is this story even possible on Slashdot? (Score:2)
Well, you just said the word.
Apparently some people (not you) are too stupid, to get, that it's not the combination of letters or even word said. It's the intention transported.
p.c.ness is just the dark art of saying the most horrible things with the nicest words. So one can be more evil while appearing less evil.
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Where to even begin... (Score:5, Insightful)
1) Why fire someone over use of the word "N.zi"? Even if the company has a policy to keep such words out of internal communication (much like Slashdot, I might add), then a reprimand would perhaps be in order, but surely not termination.
2) Why does it matter that the guy is Jewish? Are they exempt from certain rules?
3 What "mistakes" were made exactly? Bad policies, not following policies, or just a knee-jerk reaction followed by a knee-jerk retraction from HR?
Re:Where to even begin... (Score:4, Insightful)
1) Why fire someone over use of the word "N.zi"?
100% because some Conservacuck felt like they were being called N@zi, and complained that use of the word created a hostile work environment.
2) Why does it matter that the guy is Jewish?
Because it's extra-dystopian when you fire a Jew for warning about N@zis while they are marching in the streets, and also while they are mounting insurrections.
3 What "mistakes" were made exactly? Bad policies, not following policies, or just a knee-jerk reaction followed by a knee-jerk retraction from HR?
Hiring at least one neocon fuckwit to staff HR.
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Would they have re-hired him if he didn't have the Jew card to play, or would it have been "Well, you shouldn't talk about politics at work"?
Good to see the HR lady leave though, obviously she was a retard (no offense to anyone with Down syndrome).
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"Well, you shouldn't talk about politics at work"?
Are you trying to dismiss someone saying "watch out for people who literally want to to murder you" as "discussing politics at work"?
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Hiring at least one neocon fuckwit to staff HR.
Or certain rules were followed in regard to using certain words in internal communication.. But now it was reversed because it got public attention because of a jew calling others naz1 and well, with the PC crap we're living in today, this media attention is immediately a big problem.
And because some people have different idea's from you, doesn't make then a neocon fuckwit... The fact you call it like that makes you exactly the same fuckwit as you still haven't got a clue on what rules he was fired, media
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Also, N@zis tend to want to kill Jews. I actually met one face to face way back in high school (almost 30 years ago). He knew I was Jewish and started telling me, to my face, "the only thing Hitler did wrong was not finishing the job." He was outright telling me that I and my family should be killed for be
Re:Where to even begin... (Score:4, Informative)
The events at the Capitol had an alarmingly analogous historical precedent: the beer hall putsch. I wonder if we'll see the same figures back in 5 or 10 years, but with better organization and support.
My guess (Score:3, Interesting)
I suspect it went down something like this.
Somebody at Facebook is aware that left-wing extremists commonly refer to conservatives as N@zis. Also some that aren't THAT extreme do so, like when Nancy Pelosi called US law enforcement officers protecting federal buildings N@zis, complaining about the "Stormtroopers" (N@zi SA unit) trying to protect the buildings from rioters. Yeah this would be the same people whom she eventually allowed to come protect HER inside the federal capital from rioters trying to ge
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she called her protectors "Stormtroopers", before she realized she needed them there.
Horseshit.
Pelosi used that word to refer to men in Portland who wore no identifying markings on their uniforms or their vehicles.
That practice is extremely dangerous, making a clear path to either federal officers being shot for attempting to kidnap citizens, or to citizens being taken by private militias.
And those men were not Capitol Police, nor DC Police, nor National Guard. They absolutely, positively, were not the officers in DC defending the Capitol building.
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Most importanty: What harm was done, exactly?
Apart from the firing, I mean.
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Github's internal handling of complaints seems to be completely broken. I had first hand experience when I complained about a member of their staff recently regarding a Code of Conduct issue. Their investigations are slow and opaque, and they get easily confused or make easily disprovable conclusions.
It sounds like they have a systemic problem. The fact that the head of HR resigned over this is further evidence that their internal processes don't work. Hopefully they take this opportunity to fix them.
Thanks (Score:4, Interesting)
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Your schooling was supposed to indoctrinate you to make choices against your self interests.
They were banking on that.
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If he had a ton of stock then he might be willing to go back. Also it might be worth getting a paycheck for a few months while you find another job. Finally it's always better to say you quit than that you were fired.
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Probably the person complaining should be fired
Probably not. You didn't deserve the down-mod for this. But if companies start looking for scapegoats whenever anything goes wrong, morale will collapse. And if the complainer has friends or like minded co-workers, the company will split into factions.
Too bad the original firing took place. But this is a teachable moment. About how everyone has their own set of beliefs outside of work and a right to express them. But don't you be bringing fights onto company property. On the other hand, what the PP posted
Apologies are great, but (Score:2)
Apologies are great, but will he get anything else due to his life being disrupted ?
Also how would a person feel going back to a place that fired him for no reason? Especially since I think he said nothing wrong and other people were kept on by saying things that should have gotten them disciplined.
Humanist speech saved once again! (Score:2)
Friedman stressed that “Hubbers are free to express concerns about neo-N_zis, antisemitism, white supremacy or any other form of discrimination or harassment,” he wrote. “And of course, we expect Hubbers to be respectful, professional, and to follow GitHub policies on discrimination and harassment at all times”
If the employee had likened a Democrat to a N_zi, that would not have been permissible.
You'll know you're seeing a CEO stand up for a principle when he/she decides to protect an employee's speech outside of work because he/she believes that: 1) free expression is a valuable way for a society, and 2) not every hour of an employee's life must be beholden to the reputational risk management conce
Dear /. editors, don't censor the word (Score:2)
I'm baffled that you can't write the word "N.a.z.i." here.
In the words of Eugeniusz Krol, a Polish historian that edited a version of Mein Kampf that is out this week: "According to the critics, the publication of this book is an offence to the victims of [Na.zism]. In my view, it is the opposite". His editor adds that the book is "a warning that it is easy to dismantle democracy and build a totalitarian regime in an almost invisible way. What happened in Germany after 1933 can happen today, tomorrow, the d
Communists are as bad as N@zis. (Score:3, Insightful)
Communists have killed an order of magnitude more people than N@zis. We need to group "Communist" in the same category as "N@zi."
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What's more important - protecting the free speech of your employees,
This has zero value for a corporation.
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I'm also surprised to see a Jew, of all people, bandy the term about in such a flippant way.
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Help admins, they're recruiting for ISIS!
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Nasties? Make Adolf Great Again? Seeg Hile? Parler lovers?