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Fry's Electronics Going Out of Business, Shutting Down All Stores (arstechnica.com) 305

UnknowingFool and scores of other readers have shared this report: Fry's Electronics, the decades-old superstore chain with locations in nine American states, appears to have gone defunct. Bay Area TV station KRON-4 was the first press outlet to confirm the news late Tuesday, saying that Fry's will shut down all 30 of its American locations. The retailer will reportedly make an announcement at some time on Wednesday via the Fry's website. Rumors began flying on Tuesday in the form of anecdotes from alleged Fry's employees, who all reported that they'd been summarily fired earlier in the day with zero notice. One anonymous report posted at The Layoff alleged that every remaining Fry's store in the US was "permanently closing tomorrow," and that statement was repeated hours later at a Fry's-related Reddit community. The Reddit post included the allegation that one store's staffers were tasked with shipping any remaining merchandise back to suppliers during their final day at work. Sacramento freelance journalist Matthew Keys followed these posts by citing an unnamed source -- someone who had worked at Fry's up until "this week" -- who claimed that the electronics chain would make a formal announcement "this week" about closing all of its stores and liquidating any remaining assets. As the wave of rumors exploded, the official Fry's website began serving failure notices -- yet some of its subsite content, particularly years-old press releases, remained active through Frys.com subdomains. As Tuesday wore on, the Fry's retail site flickered in and out of normal service, even letting customers buy products after KRON-4's report went live.
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Fry's Electronics Going Out of Business, Shutting Down All Stores

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  • Lay off the entire company and then ask to ship back all the merchandise? Oh I'm sure it will all come back.

    • by Puls4r ( 724907 ) on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @11:26AM (#61095754)
      No. Fire all you employees with no notice at all. THEN post on your website this little gem:

      " It is hoped that undertaking the wind-down through this orderly process will reduce costs, avoid additional liabilities, minimize the impact on our customers, vendors, landlords and associates, and maximize the value of the Companyâ(TM)s assets for its creditors and other stakeholders."

      I.E. - screw out employees, we've got some 'stakeholders' we need to give some cash to.
      • by UnknowingFool ( 672806 ) on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @11:31AM (#61095768)
        If you have been in a Fry's the last several years, there is not much in terms of merchandise or customers. Aisles and aisles of empty shelves has been greeting potential customers for years.
        • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @11:45AM (#61095810)
          but pre-COVID I've seen plenty of pictures of merchandise and stocking levels on par with Best Buy. Stores don't do the top to bottom stocking that they used to when we were all kids. Just in Time Shipping means they don't keep the shelves full, but they've kept the building large, probably because it would be bad optics to move to smaller buildings (also Fry's had elaborate storefronts).

          I suspect this is just due to the usually factors:

          1. Overall sales were down because the economy has been in a slump since 2008.

          2. There's just plain less electronics to sell since cell phones do so much.

          3. Supply chain issues. You might have actually been seeing some empty shelves lately. China makes all the electronics (more or less) and COVID shut them down for months. They're back up, but we don't have the capacity in our ports for all the ships to deliver goods.

          Mix all 3 of those together and yeah, straw breaking the camel's back. But take COVID away and they'd probably have kept chugging along.
          • by UnknowingFool ( 672806 ) on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @12:01PM (#61095878)
            I went pre COVID and it was clear there was a lack of inventory. There many YouTube videos that document this. This video from January 24, 2020 [youtu.be] shows at least 2 stores that had little inventory especially in computer parts. There are others from 2019 showing the same thing.
            • by zfractal ( 170078 ) on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @12:33PM (#61096006)

              I don't think I've been in a Fry's since 2001. And even then, they had sparse inventory of what you actually needed or wanted.

              Sure, they gave the appearance that there was plenty of inventory, but what I noticed was that a lot of it was the repackaged/returned merchandise, which (in my own experience) worked maybe 25% of the time. To me, it seemed they were just churning out bad inventory, counting on the fact that some customers didn't want to deal with the return process, especially when it probably wasn't actually worth the time to do so.

              • Same here. I think there was only one or two instances in the past 10 years that I went into a Frys and actually found what I was looking for...and then it was still a waste of time because I ended up having to return the things that didn't work right. Other trips were just a waste of time from the get go and I ended up having to order what I needed online anyway and wait, or found what I needed at other stores in the area. Eventually I just stopped even bothering to waste time trying to get stuff from t
              • I've returned almost as much stuff as I bought there. It's what made me stop shopping there.

            • Adult section seemed to have gone out among the first :)
              https://youtu.be/Wq2rUsUTL_0?t... [youtu.be]

          • I haven't been to a Frys in years, but an article I read today said that they were selling on consignment (pay when paid) and thus were limited by who would agree to sell on those terms.

            If so, then that indicates some real screwups.

          • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

            by Anonymous Coward

            I suspect this is just due to the usually factors:

            1. Overall sales were down because the economy has been in a slump since 2008.

            Stopped reading there. Whatever planet you live on, it ain't Earth. [stlouisfed.org]

          • by Applehu Akbar ( 2968043 ) on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @01:01PM (#61096132)

            But when Frys "went weird" it stopped selling its usual merchandise. A year ago I went into the North Phoenix location to pick up a UPS, a product area which used to have half an aisle to itself, and found the whole store full of oddly assorted non-electronics like gardening equipment and housewares. There were a few laptops still on sale, but not one UPS. I fired up my Amazon app and had one on the way to me before I left the parking area.

            • by hawk ( 1151 ) <hawk@eyry.org> on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @03:26PM (#61096810) Journal

              It had been a couple of years since I last went into one.

              They *used* to have whatever you would expect, and you could count on just stumbling across something cool or interesting. Just going in was interesting and an adventure.

              Over the last few years, though, that ended.

              The selection petered out, and the chances of finding anything interesting by accident dropped to zero.

              Even at Christmastime! There was a time I could go in and find something interesting for everyone, but the last couple of years I tried, I left empty-handed.

              Radioshack also went down that hole; instead of having amusing Christmas things, they just added more cellphones . . .

        • Yup, I visited a store pre-COVID and it looked like a ghost town. No people, mostly empty shelves, and an air of sadness. When I saw the story this morning my reaction was "I thought they were already out of business"

        • I never saw empty aisles at Frys, and while they always seemed overstaffed compared to the customers, but the customers/sq. Ft seemed reasonable.
        • If you have been in a Fry's the last several years...

          The last time I went to Fry's, I swore I would never come back. It was horrible. Minimal amounts of saleable merchandise, super high prices, terrible employees. I used to love Fry's but this was a predicable fate.

        • I don't remember exactly when I went, but it was many months pre-covid. I was looking for soldering tips. The place looked like dead man walking then. They had maybe 1/4 to 1/3 of the types of tips they had tags for. They did not have the tip I needed and it is a fairly popular weller model. As I walked out, I noticed maybe as much as 1/2 of the shelves were completely bare of merchandise. So much so that as I walked out I asked the bag checker person if Fry's was going out of biz. Their response was a shor
        • by Ungrounded Lightning ( 62228 ) on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @12:44PM (#61096058) Journal

          From my standpoint they've been dying for a while.

          What used to make them key for hacking was that they had all the components and systems necessary to build or configure-up what you needed - or at least all the common, glue-it-together, stuff and you might only need to get some mission-specific or cutting-edge core components elsewhere.

          Starting several years ago they got into a policy of only carrying the current high-volume stuff. After this change you coudn't even get the upgrade components for big-ticket stuff you'd bought from them a year or two before - or sometimes even today. (At one point they were even out of terabyte laptop drives at the Sunnyvale store. When configuring a new laptop that came with Windows I had normally been swapping in a new disk and building from scratch.)

          Now that they were no longer the "drop in for all the odd electronic/computerish stuff you suddenly discover you need" site (and I didn't know of other good candidates) I had to do mail order for most stuff. With Amazon Prime for the odd everything and several suppliers (DigiKey, Arrow, ...) for the major components, it became a way of life.

          As the stock in the stores became sparse they also stopped being a site for asile-browsing and impulse-buying that gadget I'd been wanting (e.g. power supplies, modern soldering station, ...). Even before COVID left me housebound-by-doctor's-orders for the last year, I hadn't been to a Fry's for months - and the last several times I went they didn't have a decent version of some pretty basic stuff I wanted.

          Now maybe it was Amazon and other online, fast-delivery vendors that started the stores down. But their own online operation wasn't competitive in price and selection, and if their store selection reduction was a reaction to the mail order competition, focusing on high-volume high-profit stuff, it had the effect of breaking what made them a draw.

          It doesn't surprise me that they're going down. What is surprising is that, with the stores in such bad shape, COVID didn't last-straw them earlier.

      • by Brain-Fu ( 1274756 ) on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @12:18PM (#61095942) Homepage Journal

        screw out employees, we've got some 'stakeholders' we need to give some cash to.

        Yes, that's how it works. There is no such thing as a guaranteed income stream, whether you are employee, employer, stakeholder, or thief. Market conditions change every day. New disruptive businesses/technologies emerge, and old secure income streams dry up. Jobs vanish without warning for a variety of reasons.

        It is not reasonable to expect that someone else should prioritize your best interest over their own. The execs at Fry's aren't any happier about losing their jobs than their workers are. And the owners aren't happy about going under, and the stakeholders aren't happy about losing stock in a profitable company and having to receive a bucket of leftovers instead. It sucks for everyone! But at no point does anyone in this hierarchy have any reason to go out of their way to protect those beneath them from the impact of this, and certainly not from the impact of their own poor planning.

        It is "on you" to make sure that you have sufficient savings to weather storms like these. It is "on you" to create financial security in the face of a lack of job security. This is totally do-able, it just requires education and self-discipline.

        • And the cities aren't happy about having a huge piece of commercial real estate with an empty parking lot while the pandemic still rages. That Palo Alto location, especially. Incoming homeless with potential to burn the thing down by accident with a warming fire in 5, 4, 3...

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by cfalcon ( 779563 )

          > It is "on you" to make sure that you have sufficient savings to weather storms like these.

          This is a statement of natural fact, but is it a desirable state?

          > It is "on you" to create financial security in the face of a lack of job security.

          Is it impossible to ask for more? Remember, there are plenty of places where there are benefits for not having employment- all Americans are paying for "unemployment insurance", right? When you take a job, you are selling your time, but is it inherently unreasona

          • by dnaumov ( 453672 ) on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @01:49PM (#61096338)

            >> It is "on you" to make sure that you have sufficient savings to weather storms like these.

            >This is a statement of natural fact, but is it a desirable state?

            Yes, people taking more agency in the outcomes of their own lives instead of demanding more regulation or goverment invervention is desirable.

    • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @11:41AM (#61095792)
      there's an entire cottage industry of companies that specialize in closing down defunct retail establishments. You don't keep your existing employees around anymore, you hire a third party for exactly the reason you're specifying.

      Also spare a moment to consider that our economy is so dysfunctional that we have an entire industry dedicated to shutting it down.
      • the third partys keep the old staff on for the sale

        • The way I've seen liquidations work, all staff are terminated, and then the third party, either as an administrator in the event of insolvency, or hired if there's enough cash for a more orderly wind down, will hire back some of the staff on temporary contracts. The whole point in this case is to get rid of any potential employer obligations that may come when the business has fully shuttered.

          • by DarkOx ( 621550 ) on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @01:10PM (#61096150) Journal

            Well anyone who has actually shuttered a long running business will tell you that they wish they would have gone that route if they did anything else. I am talking smallish private companies here too.

            We got various tax advices, unemployment filings, legal claims, demands for various filings, and a host of other things for YEARS after we stopped operating some of our families companies as going-concerns. These things were huge hold ups to dissolving them as legal entities and actually cashing the partners out.

            The quicker you can stop doing anything that generates taxable revenue, and the sooner you can get every last employee off the books the better it is for you. If you are selling off parts of the business get the buyers to take as much inventory and capital assets as possible in the deals. Even if you have to do it at a steep discount you'll be happy you did once faced with the accounting problems any longer running disposition of those things results in.

            For the most part when you decide to stop operating a business even ones of positive net-worth and YOY balance sheet growth, the you really want to do it quick like pulling off a band-aid the alternatives are usually just a slow painful bleeding

      • by Entrope ( 68843 )

        What do you think is dysfunctional? Retailers are closing down because people prefer online shopping. This was greatly exaggerated and sped up by pandemic-related restrictions. It is not surprising that people will specialize in efficiently handling an economy-wide shift in retail patterns, and it is not reflective of any dysfunction -- unless you mean the failure of government to facilitate recovery from the COVID-19 pandemic.

      • Companies go out of business and are replaced by new ones all the time. It isn't as though your ability to purchase computer parts has changed drastically with Fry's going out of business, so the economy is a whole is quite fine. No one sheds much of a tear anymore over the loss of the horsewhip and buggy manufacturers. At one point in history, Sears was the largest retailer in the United States. It's since largely disappeared and with little effect on the overall economy.

        If there are companies that spec
        • I don't know of any new electronics sellers. This looks more like market consolidation to me. e.g. less competition.
          • That's a problem I feel. I do not like shopping online, and I especially hate the predatory Amazon. Which leaves very few places to get simple tech stuff. Target has some small stuff, useful if you need an external hard drive, thumb drive, or a replacement Roku, but not too much else of interest to me. Best buy is similar but it's mostly bigger stuff. No one though will have PC video cards, cases, keyboards that aren't generic, power supplies (wall warts or programmable), soldering irons, more than one

        • by Ungrounded Lightning ( 62228 ) on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @01:03PM (#61096136) Journal

          At one point in history, Sears was the largest retailer in the United States. It's since largely disappeared and with little effect on the overall economy.

          Sears REALLY missed the boat on the online sales industry. They shut down their catalog operation just as that was starting up.

          They were already set up for doing fulfilment of a product spectrum far beyond what could be handled in a bricks-and-mortar store by shipment to anywhere and pickup at a department in a nationwide network of big-box stores. All they needed to do was add online order entry and they'd have BEEN Amazon.

          Instead their bean-counters decided the catalog sales were not profitable enough, didn't see the potential of fixing them up by supplying this newfangled missing piece, and phased them out just as Amazon started taking the niche.

          • by steveha ( 103154 )

            Sears REALLY missed the boat on the online sales industry. They shut down their catalog operation just as that was starting up.

            Wow. If I had mod points I would mod your post "Insightful".

            You are so right about this. Back in the day, Sears made most of their money from mail-order sales. Sears started out as a pure mail-order business. And according to Wikipedia, Sears [wikipedia.org] stopped their mail-order business in... 1993!

            I remember, in my childhood, my family would drive through some small town and there would be

      • I do not think a liquidation industry is a sign of a dysfunctional economy. Recognizing that something failed and needs to be shut down happens. Specialists in generalizing resources makes sense. The dysfunctional part is they are devoted to screwing over employees and other obligations. The part where old inventory is auctioned off, or if they helped employees find new jobs, that is and would be good.
        • 1. The industry exists to skirt labor law. It lets you fire the employees w/o the same severance requirements and such. Especially the ones around health benefits (which in America are tied to your employer).

          2. Major retailers (Fry's had 31 stores) shouldn't be going tits up often enough to necessitate specialists.
          • by DarkOx ( 621550 )

            It does not skirt thing. It moves the calendar date up a bit sooner. It allows you to stop engaging in all kinds of administrative functions quicker. It does not make anyone employment contracts that contain severance agreements vanish. It does not mean you get stop providing benefits for the last month you are operating etc. It does not cheat anyone out of a final paycheck it just means for some the last paycheck is in April and not May. Either way there is a last one you have to stop operating sometime.

    • other stores did the sell off with an liquidated keep local staff on for some time to sell things off.
      Why ship back? you still have the stores for some time.

    • by Megane ( 129182 ) on Thursday February 25, 2021 @10:48AM (#61099122)

      What inventory? Fry's started dying four years ago. Fry's locations nationwide went near dormant. They had low stock, except cheap chineseium crap.

      This actually started around 2008 or so. The usual mode of operation for stores like this is that manufacturers send their merchandise to retailers, and don't expect payment until it sells. But Fry's was having trouble paying creditors, and got slow about paying back manufacturers. So they cut Fry's off, and Fry's had to pay for merchandise in full, up front. The immediate visual result was that the top shelves all over the store, where they put boxes of excess stock, disappeared.

      Then in mid-2017 or so, their normal stock levels started to decay. I eventually learned that they had gotten tired of nearly a decade of having to pay in advance for merchandise, and had severely reduced their in-store stock levels of stuff. This was also the rise of cheap crap from China to keep the shelves from being completely empty. The stores quickly looked like late in those "one month closeout" things. I noticed this within a few months, though it helped that I had just moved back from Austin, and had to make an effort to go to Fry's. (They'd had plans for a San Antonio location, but that was just before the 2008 crash.) Whenever I would mention this to people, they seemed to be in denial. But I did some searches and found that this was a chain-wide problem.

      The Wuhan Flu came and they didn't change. Some people probably thought it was so empty because of the pandemic. All I can guess is that Fry's was waiting until they had less of a penalty for breaking store leases, and maybe also still hoping that manufacturers would give in. And those stores were big, you could probably fit two football (either type) fields in their typical store plan.

      And here we are now. I find myself not able to care, they haven't been relevant to me for at least two years. Back in early 2017 it was still worth making a special trip, then Radio Shack died and I had to learn how to use Amazon to find electronics parts. Then there was no reason for a day trip to go to Fry's, even when they did have stuff in stock. My only surprise is that it took this long.

  • Sad (Score:5, Insightful)

    by timeOday ( 582209 ) on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @11:15AM (#61095722)
    I remember going to a conference in San Francisco about 20 years ago and it was really cool to go to Fry's. It's funny but the idea of going to amazon and doing a search for, say, keyboards - except doing it physically and being able to look at dozens of different ones in person - now seems pretty exotic. Which I guess it is. Too exotic to survive the competition of more effective methods.
    • by GoTeam ( 5042081 )
      Very well said. I've been lucky enough to have a few stores around me. I was always able to get exactly what I needed and having so many options really helped. I always did my research first, but there are some things you can learn only by holding and examining the product you want to purchase. I guess a fitting tribute would be to pour out a bottle of ethernet patch cables, some random jumpers, and mismatched screws (aka random junk I have in my desk). Stay hard Fry's!
    • by Salgak1 ( 20136 )

      My first experience with Fry's was in 2007: I had been sent to an LA-Area office for an install, and it was suggested that I check it out. They were pretty damned impressive, even then.

      And it was the first store I've seen with the serpentine checkout path lined with snack foods, small tech gadgets, etc. I now see that in a lot of stores.

      As an East Coaster. Fry's was everything Micro Center ever wanted to be (And still doesn't achieve. . .)

      • by ncc74656 ( 45571 ) *

        And it was the first store I've seen with the serpentine checkout path lined with snack foods, small tech gadgets, etc. I now see that in a lot of stores.

        Commissaries on military bases are set up like that. Other than those, Fry's was the only other place I'd seen it. More stores should follow their example, as it gets the most people checked out in the least amount of time.

        • And it was the first store I've seen with the serpentine checkout path lined with snack foods, small tech gadgets, etc. I now see that in a lot of stores.

          Commissaries on military bases are set up like that. Other than those, Fry's was the only other place I'd seen it. More stores should follow their example, as it gets the most people checked out in the least amount of time.

          I'm pretty sure that started as the "zip line" in banks, back in the '60s or so. Banks used to have separate lines for each teller - a

    • Re:Sad (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Jerrry ( 43027 ) on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @12:11PM (#61095914)

      I was at the grand opening of the very first Fry's store in Santa Clara back in 1985. In addition to all of the electronics and software, the aisles were filled with essential nerd merchandise like potato chips and Jolt Cola.

      Fry's heyday was in the 1990s when shopping there was a real experience. Each store had a theme (Mayan ruins, Aztec Temple, Wild West, etc.) and often had interesting displays (the Fremont store had a giant operating Tesla coil and the Santa Clara store had displays of historic electronic equipment).

      Customer service was never a strong point at Fry's. They only seemed to hire minimum wage workers who knew nothing about what they were selling, and they had a bad habit of re-shrink wrapping returned items and selling them as new. I once saw a Jaz disk (remember those?) on the shelf at Fry's that had a stick-on disk label attached with a hand-written note in ink (that was partially erased) that said "1997 Financials".

      In recent years, Fry's began a death spiral with mostly empty shelves, dirty stores, and very few customers.

    • I used to bring an extra suitcase whenever I went to California so I could stock up on gear at Fry's. Sad to see this too, many good memories...
  • I always enjoyed going to Frys but it has been years.

    It is really hard to compete with a same or next day Amazon order for pretty much anything you find at frys ( even if amazons price is sometimes higher )

    • by dgatwood ( 11270 ) on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @11:50AM (#61095830) Homepage Journal

      The problem with Fry's had nothing to do with competing with Amazon. They never made the transition from being a "we buy X and sell it later" vendor to being a "we take X on consignment and pay you when it sells" vendor. That's what killed them, because they ended up stuck with huge amounts of really outdated merchandise that nobody wanted.

      And they finally tried to make that transition near the start of the pandemic, but not enough vendors signed on, so they have basically been out of almost everything even remotely electronic for the past year. I tried to buy a UPS about six months back, and they were literally sold out of all UPSes across the entire Silicon Valley. I ended up spending that $300 from Amazon because Fry's had no inventory. At that point, I used up my gift cards on KN95 masks, printer paper, ballpoint pens, and whatever other consumables I could think of, knowing that Fry's would probably not be around in a year.

      But that wasn't even when it started. The shelves at Fry's had been getting more and more sparse for about the three years prior to that. I'm not sure if the prepay-versus-consignment thing was an ongoing battle with vendors for a while, or if they just completely lost touch with reality and thought that the way to not burn so much cash was to have fewer products for sale and always be out of 60% of the products that they supposedly do sell, forgetting that customers don't go into a store if they assume that they will come out without finding what they need.

      To use the word "gross incompetence" would be doing a grave injustice to the grossly incompetent of the world by drawing the comparison. Fry's management was clearly utterly inept at a level that is almost unimaginable.

      Unfortunately, for anyone interested in actually building electronics from parts, Fry's left HUGE gap that NOBODY else fills. The only way to get electronics components now is to place an online order from DigiKey or Mouser or JameCo or whatever, wait a week or more to get the parts, and pay ten bucks in shipping on a three dollar order. Amazon usually doesn't offer those products at all, and if they do, you'll spend three hours trying to find them with their awful search engine, you'll buy them in ridiculous quantities, and they'll be drop-shipped from China, arriving in 3 to 8 weeks.

      On the flip side, Fry's has been out of most of that stuff for so long that lately I've resorted to ordering on Amazon and waiting for weeks.

      This sucks.

      • No gap exists (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Roger W Moore ( 538166 ) on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @12:17PM (#61095936) Journal

        Fry's left HUGE gap that NOBODY else fills. The only way to get electronics components now is to place an online order from DigiKey or Mouser or JameCo or whatever, wait a week or more to get the parts

        I think you are vastly overestimating the size of that gap. Waiting a week to get parts when you every available component to choose from is better than taking time to visit a store in person only to find that they have not got everything you want and you have to wait to order something anyway.

        The number of electronic components available today is too vast for a physical store to stock. Even before the web, I used to order parts from catalogues more often than I did from a physical electronics store and now everything is online so it is even more convenient. The last electronics store I went into in person was probably Harrogate Electronics when I was a teenage kid.

        • by Bodie1 ( 1347679 ) on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @12:45PM (#61096060)

          Just pop into Radio Shack...

          Oh... Nevermnd.

          • Just pop into Radio Shack...

            Oh... Nevermnd.

            I have actually seen one of the original Radio Shack stores, which long before digital electronics was a bat cave of ham radio gear and discrete components hanging from the walls and ceilings. Hobbyists used to spend all day in one of those places.

        • by dgatwood ( 11270 )

          Fry's left HUGE gap that NOBODY else fills. The only way to get electronics components now is to place an online order from DigiKey or Mouser or JameCo or whatever, wait a week or more to get the parts

          I think you are vastly overestimating the size of that gap. Waiting a week to get parts when you every available component to choose from is better than taking time to visit a store in person only to find that they have not got everything you want and you have to wait to order something anyway.

          Yeah, but between them and Radio Shack, I could usually find the parts to do whatever I was trying to do, back before Radio Shack disappeared, and probably 75% of the time even after that.

          The number of electronic components available today is too vast for a physical store to stock. Even before the web, I used to order parts from catalogues more often than I did from a physical electronics store and now everything is online so it is even more convenient. The last electronics store I went into in person was probably Harrogate Electronics when I was a teenage kid.

          If you mean every possible component, sure, but 99% of the time, the things you need end up being standard connectors (DC in particular), resistors, capacitors, bog-standard switching transistors and diodes, common zener diodes, voltage power supplies, breadboards or PCBs, solder, wire, etc., all of which any decent electr

      • by MobyDisk ( 75490 ) on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @12:19PM (#61095952) Homepage

        I have never been to a Fry's before, but I think Micro Center [microcenter.com] fills the same niche. They have the basic boring computerish stuff like laptops and printers and TVs, but also the geeky stuff like Arduinos, Raspberry Pis, individual LEDs, soldering irons, Sparkfun and Adafruit stuff, DIY arcade cabinets, and 3D printers. To me it is even better than visiting CompUSA back in the late 1990's.

        • I have never been to a Fry's before, but I think Micro Center fills the same niche.

          Followed the link: The store picture looks much like Fry's at their peak, but maybe better. (The hanging department signs look very similar.)

          They only have one California outlet listed. Maybe, as we come out of COVID and Fry's is dead, they'll open a store(s) in Silicon Valley.

          (Maybe even buy or rent old Fry's outlets, fill them with merchandise, and operate them properly? One can only hope...)

      • by RobinH ( 124750 )
        For those of us who never lived near a Fry's, the lack of any electronics parts locally happened when Radio Shack closed up. We've been ordering off DigiKey and Mouser, etc., for years. Amazon and AliExpress have actually made everything much better with their free shipping.
      • by ncc74656 ( 45571 ) *

        The only way to get electronics components now is to place an online order from DigiKey or Mouser or JameCo or whatever, wait a week or more to get the parts, and pay ten bucks in shipping on a three dollar order.

        My recent DigiKey orders have usually been under $5 to ship, and they usually make their way through the mail in 2-3 days.

        One way to get more out of your shipping charges is to order extras of common components (passives, "jellybean" semiconductors, etc.) so that maybe next time you need them, you

      • San Mateo electronics has a lot of that basic stuff.

    • by Tablizer ( 95088 ) on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @11:57AM (#61095858) Journal

      I always enjoyed going to Frys but it has been years.

      One could walk down the isles, see a variety of gizmos and devices, and actually touch stuff. Am I a nostalgic geezer or is there some inherent satisfaction in actually being able to touch and feel stuff before buying? This is especially true of keyboards, mice, game controllers, office furniture, etc. The feel matters.

      And they often had returned or scratched knick-knacks heavily discounted that one could rummage through. If version N of any software title or book was out, I could often get version N-1 at 1/4 the price.

      Ah, the good 'ol days. I'm gonna go touch my lawn after kicking the kids off. Future generations will only have iLawns.

    • I loved going to Frys and it was still doing pretty well, from casual observation at least the last time I went, but that was about four (five?) years ago now, I think. Time flies.

  • by bobstreo ( 1320787 ) on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @11:17AM (#61095730)

    Mostly because I live on a different coast. Their prices were pretty good, I eventually found the things I was there to buy, and tried to not buy too many other things I didn't even know I needed.

    I don't know why they didn't just go all mail order. The cost of a few warehouses and shipping stuff has to be a lot lower than a bunch of brick and mortar sites. Maybe Amazon competition?

    • While competition from Amazon has no doubt played a role, Fry's has been on the decline for years. There are YouTube videos going years back noting the empty shelves, lack of inventory, and very few customers. Some categories like appliances are better suited to get locally but they did not keep them in stock.
  • I used to frequent the stores in both Orange County and San Diego. I remember when it was the only place to buy boxed retail copies of Redhat, Slackware, even FreeBSD. I haven't been to once in years since I moved to North Carolina, but I have fond memories of being a 20 year old and new to IT and Linux. I could get lost in Fry's for hours...
  • I purchased so many computer components, DVDs, electronics repair supplies, and impulse-buy munchies there. I remember the field trips with college roommates. Even after I started getting parts more consistently from online retailers, I would still stop in from time to time just to walk around.

    • Same here. I feel a factor was like most people I stopped going to Fry's for years at a time as I did not need anything. My main computer was decent enough to last for years without major upgrades. My TVs and other electronics and appliances were good for years. Finally the last year, I have been slowly updating to 4K. I went to Fry's and saw they had very little while BestBuy, Target, and Walmart had some decent models I could get today. For computers, Newegg was my primary source before COVID depleted all
  • Radio Shack, Circuit City, Fry's Electronics. What's next?

  • That store had been walking dead since at least August 2019. The shelves were empty and they clearly weren't restocking. There was an article early last year(?) where it said they were trying to change their inventory buying methods and were letting things intentionally run low (yea right). The writing was on the wall back then.

    I'm wondering why they held on that extra year when it was so obvious to everyone else that they were going out. That's a year plus of paying rent, salaries, etc when they could

    • The Campbell location in Nov. 2019 was moribund. I was able to buy some USB storage sticks and maybe Kapton tape, and there was only one person at the cash registers.
    • It is hard to say. Since the company is privately held, we do not have any public reports for additional information. I have wondered out aloud if it was not laundering money.
    • The only surprise abut this is why didn't it happen before?

      Pre-pandemic, I used to drive past a Fry's store during my commute. For a long time, the car park has been almost empty. On the very rare occasion that I went into the store, I felt like I was the only customer there.

      I remember going into the first Fry's store in Sunnyvale: it was cramped and they already had the final insult at the door as you left. Later on, I just walked right past the door security who asked to see your receipt. They never attem

  • Or did they go bust all by themselves ?

  • I used to by cheap Chinese made junk with no warranty and often mislabeled from my local Fry's Electronics. But then you came in with even more cheap junk of dubious quality at roughly the same price, but I didn't have to deal with Fry's staff or drive anywhere.

    Remember when Amazon was a bookstore and far inferior to Computer Literacy (aka Fatbrain), until the it became a casualty of the Amazon vs. Barnes & Noble wars.

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    • And the RAM chips I soldered on to take it to 1MB.
      And its 80 MB hard drive.

      Gotta love a place where the impulse buys next to the cash registers were:

      * Junk food
      * Long-handled Torx screwdrivers for opening the original Mac case

    • People stopped doing late-night hardware hacking?
      • I wouldn't consider Fry's to be a place where I would consider buying parts from for 20+ years.

        They just never stepped up to the service level of Digi-Key, Mouser and now AliExpress/Alibaba. I can get basically anything within 48 hours (24 hours when we're out of Covid).

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          • I can get basically anything within 48 hours

            At the time I'm talking about, Fry's had everything you'd need in stock and you could walk in and get it anytime, day or night.

            I don't think that's possible with the variety of electronics available now. In the '80s & '90s if you had the most popular TTL logic, standard 8bit MPUs (ie 6502, 6809, Z80 and *maybe* the 80(1)88), EPROM, SRAM & DRAM, LEDs, common bipolar transistors, a selection of passives along with tools, common wires and prototype PCBs you could say that a customer could get "everything" they wanted and basically get away with it. At the time, most Radio Shack stores had all of these parts available (often

  • I didn't realize that they were still in business. The last time I was in my local Fry's was Christmas season 2019. They only had one motherboard to choose from - not one model of motherboard, one motherboard period. Walking around the store was like some futuristic dystopian sci-fi movie set. Rows and rows of empty shelves and zombie-like employees doing nothing.
  • and yet sears is still some how not dead yet!

  • Fry's has been circling the bowl for some time now. Stores have been empty. Fry's has been in full zombie mode for a couple of years. Even before that, Fry's in-store experience was crap. Who wants to be treated like cattle and then questioned like a thief on the way out?

    I suspect that Fry's was making more money on candy and other impulse buys than any of the products they were actually there to sell.

  • "Reddit post included the allegation that one store's staffers were tasked with shipping any remaining merchandise back to suppliers during their final day at work."

    My guess is it will take them about a day to clear our store. LOL.

    At least at my Fry's, they've only had about 10% of the shelves stocked, if that. And thats been the case for the past 2 years. I'm surprised they werent already closed.

  • This is inevitable. The Fry's stores are my favorite place on the weekends. But since the pandemic I haven't set foot in, nor thought about going to one of them.
  • This makes me sad. Pre Covid, the stores were ghost towns, but the past few times I ventured into one the stock levels were actually coming back up and I was able to find what I needed: an HD, some keyboards, and oddly some masks as well.

    I have fond memories of them opening their store in Woodland Hills, CA and having a huge grand opening: even then grand openings weren't really a thing. We conned our boss into letting us go to pick up some supplies, and they were selling hot dogs outside.

    This is really mos

  • I went to my first and only Fry's in about 2001. I though it was kind of amazing to see so much stuff (Microcenter and CompUSA were my only other "superstore" electronics experiences) in such a big place.

    However, the whole place had a weird vibe. I was in a location in Orange County (the more industrial, inland part) and it seemed strange. I didn't buy anything and I kind of thought they were going to detain me when I was trying to get out. Odd, hostile employees, like being in some foreign country with

  • The nearest store was about an hour away and I didn't get out there much, but they helped me build my ZFS server a few years ago. And it was fun walking around before the decline, I saw a popcorn maker that I would like to have but it was too expensive.

  • I remember shopping at the original Kern Avenue store and being blown away.

    Then they grew. I was excited when they opened stores in Seattle and Portland, much easier for this BC resident to access.

    Then they lost their way. The last time I was at Fry's (Renton, summer '18) it was hard to find anything worth buying. Or anything at all, for that matter.

    Goodbye, old friend.

    ...laura

    • by Jerrry ( 43027 )

      "I remember shopping at the original Kern Avenue store and being blown away."

      The Kern Avenue location was the second location of the Sunnyvale store. The original store, which opened in 1985, was a few blocks away on Oakmead Parkway.

  • I have great memories of Fry's going back to the late '80s when we went to the store off 101 in Mountain View (California) - I always loved that the building was painted like a chip. Along with (decently priced) electronics there was AV Equipment, games and groceries. Not a huge amount of floor space, but well organized and was really perfect then for both work and hobby needs.

    The last time I was in one, it had turned into a kind of huge bastardized Best Buy, trying to do everything (with little regard

  • For at least a *year* pre-pandemic, so like 2 years now we've been anticipating this. Why? Because when you walked in to Fry's half the shelves were bare. The writing was painfully on the wall.

    It really is sad--the passing of an era.

    I'm glad I actually got to go to the Old West electronics store while they were still selling the ropes with which they hanged themselves.

  • For the last 3 or 4 years it's been looking like Fry's stocked the stores to the brim for the Chrismas season and spent the rest of the year selling off what they couldn't move over the holidays.

    There is a Fry's right down the road from me, and it's a shame to see what's happened over the last 5 years. Hitting Fry's was like going to a fair when I was growing up. I guess even Fry's cant compete with the ol' Amazonians

  • Wow, I thought they had been out of business years ago. I use to live near one in the 90's, but haven't visited one since I moved.
  • A year ago I went to a Fry's store. Rows of empty shelves, out of stock on basic supplies (I wanted a power cable for a computer), you could see in employees' eyes that they see the end coming.

    I'm surprised they lasted this long.

  • I can't wait to purchase the Terminator I DVD with a 20% discount on going-out-of-business sale.
  • I found them late in life, maybe in 2016 or so. It literally took my breath away the first time I walked in - it was like everything Radio Shack wanted to be in the 70s through the 90s, and more, and it felt even more so at the time, since Radio Shack was gone by then. I hadn't seen so many semiconductors and such in one place in... ever. Unfortunately every visit afterward underwhelmed me a little more. Kind of a shame, but they couldn't roll with the market and it got them in the end. RIP

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