How Should the Media Depict Autism? (salon.com) 117
April 2nd was "World Autism Awareness Day." This prompted Salon to ask: What would a good representation of autism in the media look like?
When you talk to people who are neurodiverse, one problem they consistently identify is that even well-developed characters who seem to be on the spectrum are frequently "coded" — that is, they are given personality traits associated with autism but are never directly identified as being autistic.
"I have yet to seen a portrayal in the media that feels genuine," Becca Hector, an autism and neurodiversity consultant and mentor in Colorado, told Salon via Facebook. After noting the prevalence of autistic stereotyping in media, and particularly the entertainment industry, she added that "the closest they ever got, in my opinion, is Temperance Bones from the TV show 'Bones.'" Hector praised how the character "acted" autistic and the people around her responded with a mixture of laughter and exasperation, which struck her as realistic. At the same time, Bones was "absolutely coded."
Jen Elcheson, a 39-year-old autistic paraeducator and published author living in western Canada, agreed with Hector about Bones in the Facebook conversation. "Honestly, I find autistic coded characters easier to relate to in entertainment than the ones they purposely make autistic," she observed. "Because when they do it deliberately, it's usually characters laden in all the stereotypes."
Although Elcheson argued the alternative was also bad.
"When characters are coded not only does the greater public miss out on seeing a different depiction of an autistic that isn't a stereotype, but the autistic community once again experiences erasure."
"I have yet to seen a portrayal in the media that feels genuine," Becca Hector, an autism and neurodiversity consultant and mentor in Colorado, told Salon via Facebook. After noting the prevalence of autistic stereotyping in media, and particularly the entertainment industry, she added that "the closest they ever got, in my opinion, is Temperance Bones from the TV show 'Bones.'" Hector praised how the character "acted" autistic and the people around her responded with a mixture of laughter and exasperation, which struck her as realistic. At the same time, Bones was "absolutely coded."
Jen Elcheson, a 39-year-old autistic paraeducator and published author living in western Canada, agreed with Hector about Bones in the Facebook conversation. "Honestly, I find autistic coded characters easier to relate to in entertainment than the ones they purposely make autistic," she observed. "Because when they do it deliberately, it's usually characters laden in all the stereotypes."
Although Elcheson argued the alternative was also bad.
"When characters are coded not only does the greater public miss out on seeing a different depiction of an autistic that isn't a stereotype, but the autistic community once again experiences erasure."
Honestly? Truthfully? Oh right (Score:3)
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Also, have they never even heard of the TV show "The Good Doctor", with it's openly autistic main character and half the show being about he and his friends/co-workers dealing with autism?
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Probably not.
I hadn't.
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I have. Brennan in Bones is a much more true to life depiction. I disagree with the author regarding 'coded' characters though. Most autistic people are 'coded' in life.
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Not sure how accurate it is, but it's a fantastically written show.
Accurately? (Score:3)
And because it's a spectrum, that will range from "somewhat odd" to "profoundly uncommunicative and in need of assistance daily".
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My child is on the spectrum, and I have observed a number of similarly-diagnosed children. They are alike in their differences, but they are certainly different from each other. The spectrum label is apt because the manifestation of "autism" is, while not unique, disparate enough that it is not easily slotted into buckets. The media has a tough time presenting it because it presents so differently from one individual to another.
It is, however, threaded with a throughline of separation from neurotypical empathy and perspective-taking. My other, younger child is not on the spectrum, and it was amazingly clear how the younger one picked up on human emotions and social cues in a way the older one did not. The problem is that it branches so widely from there: perseverations, sensory input fascinations (or fixations or disorders), capacity for communication, combinations of these, It's these mutations and permutations with a unifying theme that compose the spectrum. These are sometimes disabilities and sometimes disorders, but rarely "retardation", which you seem to want to label everyone with.
"Autism" is vastly oversimplifying the experience of these many, many people. Not all learning disabilities are on the spectrum (or an "ASD"). You may be tired of hearing about it, but you also clearly don't understand it.
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We thrive in herds, though, as long as it is a herd of our own species.
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Give undercover billionaire a watch. If you can simulate a herd animal it is helpful.
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You are destined to do alike other ones do then. Your chances to do something new diminish by that.
In English, please?
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I think the problem is that the same term is used for people with categorically different needs. I know 'spectrum' is supposed to imply how severe it is and can show differences, but I think the slight end of the scale has become a catch-all for vaguely awkward behavior. The elimination of Asperger's from DSM was described to be motivated, in part, by overdiagnosis and people that were potentially merely different being put into the Asperger's bucket. Now I think Autism is overdiagnosed as a consquence.
I've
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I think there is a spectrum, most of us are high functioning, and only the extreme form is legitimately called dysfunction whereas the typical form means you have differences but many advantages over muggles.
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Well stated even if focused on the negatives which pretend being "on the spectrum" is a deficiency rather than an advantage.
The other point that people trying to express disability generally skip is that there isn't an even distribution on the spectrum. High functioning and able to mimic others is the norm. Characters like "The Good Doctor" are extreme cases and uncommon.
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Well stated even if focused on the negatives which pretend being "on the spectrum" is a deficiency rather than an advantage.
Just to be clear, being on "on the spectrum" is nearly always a huge challenge to function, even for high-functioning individuals like my child. It is decidedly not an "advantage". It is also not a mix of advantages and disadvantages that play out. It is truly different.
My child's old enough - 14 - to start to intellectually understand his condition and recognize when his impulses are surprising others because they're categorically out of line with normal human interaction. He thinks differently. Char
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Well 'odd' is kind of offensive but also the extreme end of that spectrum is the uncommon end of that spectrum. Temperance "Bones" Brennan is already uncommon in the severity of the spectrum.
"never directly identified as being autistic" (Score:4, Insightful)
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Sure but the absence of depictions of typical autistic people is a bit of an issue. Actors are trained to depict outgoing people more than anything and often ARE outgoing or play outgoing in real life.
The problem with not representing and identifying "Bones" and other high functioning characters is that they are typical on the spectrum whereas the commonly identified characters like "The Good Doctor" are extreme. Since the latter are commonly labeled it gives others a false impression of autism as a disabil
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Actors are trained to depict outgoing people more than anything and often ARE outgoing or play outgoing in real life.
Actors are also trained to depict attractive people more than anything and often ARE attractive or play attractive in real life. Somehow it happened that the dramatic medium is not sampling the population properly.
above my pay grade (Score:3)
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in a way that doesn't offend everyone (Score:3)
and ideally not spelled out and turned into the central (cheesy) plot of your story.
I often wondered if the character Jordan Cochran (played by Michelle Meyrink) in the 1985 film Real Genius was meant to be a person with autism spectrum disorders (ASD).
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Oh shit, Lazlo too.
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Don't forget the main character, Chris Knight... they were all supposed to be on the spectrum with Lazlo being a far end example.
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I think Chris was more of a young prodigy that was a bit sheltered, it was supposed to be a character that was more relatable to the audience because he stepped into this strange place that neither him or the audience really understood.
I'm not convinced the representation of autism and aspergers was intentional, I always assumed it tried to play to some stereotypes. But in some ways they nailed it better than any major film of the era. The 80's were a time when there were a bunch of weird ski movies with in
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"I think Chris was more of a young prodigy that was a bit sheltered"
Yes, this is the high functioning end of the spectrum. Prodigies are on the spectrum, not to be confused with pseudo-intellectuals who play off their 'arts', 'social sciences' and general ability to regurgitate material and quote materials written by people on the spectrum.
I very much think there is a direct correlation between very high IQ and high functioning autism. I can't think of an example of someone over a 135 that isn't on the spec
Superpowers (Score:2)
I don't even know what autism is since it varies so much between people and whenever I try to find an example it's always different.
One thing I do know is it's not a super power as media would have you believe, it's a disability which varies from minor life impairment to absolutely debilitating. Because of this I've seen people online bragging about their autism, which just seems like insanity to me, it's like bragging abou
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"the spouse is perhaps off kilter as well, warranting a genetic check before kids"
Wow. "off kilter?" Did you really just suggest what is likely the next evolution of our race should hesitate before breeding?
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Personally, I advocate all people "hesitate before breeding".
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But then only people who don't think would breed. Have you not seen Idiocracy?
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First of all, you should only believe people that tell you're autistic if they're so themselves or they're professionally trained to do so;) Also you can try the "Asperger Spectrum Quotient" test (these days often renamed to the Autism Quotient Test). If you score "normal", it means nothing. If you score quite high, you probably are on the spectrum, in which case: welcome :)
Also, (my) autism does have its superpower qualities, mostly related to the ability to hyper focus and to have very sensitive senses. I
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"A limp does not come with advantages while with autism, in the lucky ones, the advantages can even outweigh the disadvantages and often it is those advantages that have made such people very successful in the game of life."
Lucky yes but I think this is also the most heavily weighted distribution. The more extreme cases are the less common distribution.
This is such an autistic approach (Score:2)
The attempt to come up with one formula for how to portray autistic people in media strikes me as very autistic.
Re:This is such an autistic approach (Score:4, Insightful)
It just occurred to me that a spectrum has no shades of gray.
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A technical, almost pedantic distinction.
+1 Ontopic
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That assumes any of them would cooperate.
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I am slightly AS, and the thought of "consulting" with
someone makes my blood run cold.
What's the leading cause of the rise in autism? (Score:1)
If autism is becoming more prevalent there is something we are doing wrong and then it seems to be preventable, and should also be prevented. Dooming someone to a life with autism when it can be avoided sounds like living hell.
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It is not becoming more prevalent. Increased awareness and better diagnosis are the reason for more cases diagnosed. Autism wasn't even in the DSM until 1980, and its criteria expanded in the 1987 edition. In 1994 they rolled Aspergers Syndrome into it, and 2013 PDD also included.
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Re: What's the leading cause of the rise in autism (Score:1)
Nothing of what you said backs your statement that it hasn't grown or isn't new.
It suggests the opposite, actually.
(E.g. "They needed to add it because nobody was suffering from it before." would perfectly fit your statements.)
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Logic fails you and the profession disagrees. It is better and more comprehensive testing.
https://www.autismspeaks.org/p... [autismspeaks.org]
Re: What's the leading cause of the rise in autism (Score:2)
While the changing DSM criteria skew the data, it is highly likely our modern society enables people with autism genes to find each other much easier and to be more successful in life than used to be the case, actually making it more prevalent. One could call it evolution.
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Profits for some. Losses for others.
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It's not called a disease*, but leaving that aside, if it's bullshit then why are the traits associated with the syndrome defineable and measureable, and why is it that people diagnosed as autistic have discernible and substantial variance from general populations?
* although it is more lethal than most diseases. Check average life expectancy for people with high functioning autism: well under the national average. Now check the life expectancy of someone with cognitive issues as part of their autism: under
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Re: What's the leading cause of the rise in autism (Score:2)
There's no evidence for the opposite either. Not being evidence for one does not mean the opposite is true.
Can you not think like politics wants is to think?
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You assume autism is "wrong". It may just as well be the next step in evolution. We should just let nature do its thing.
ignorant nonsense (Score:2)
there is a whole range of symptoms, from slight to very severe, that are covered by the definition of "autism." There would not be a set list of things for an actor to depict it.
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Can you point to a severe example in any movie or show?
Because sadly, the "worst" I saw was still closer to the 1% of functioning ones than anything else.
Entrapta from the She-Ra reboot (Score:2)
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Fuck episodes we're going to go straight for a 5 season plot beginning to end! Eat it Babylon 5.
I like long form narrative. And my nieces seem to love the show, but well, I think a lot of it is completely lost on them.
I also think Entrapta has shades of Werner von Braun.
A fantastically good show, could talk about it all day.
The media gets it wrong on everything (Score:2)
Re: The media gets it wrong on everything (Score:2)
*has flashbacks of 8 separate 9" screens on a spider and frantically typing away at a purely graphical interface so bright you can read it off their faces "hackers"*
Unelss of course you are Dennis Nedry and need to fly through fucking 3D worlds.
At least Matrix had nmap on scren.
Movie "Temple Grandin" already did (Score:5, Interesting)
The movie Temple Grandin (2010) [imdb.com] (loosely based on a true story) already tackled presenting autism with respect. Instead of stigmatizing people, it pointed out that autistic people literally think, feel, and perceive the world differently. Instead of labeling this as good/bad it just accepted people.
Just treat people with kindness and understanding.
Not sure why this needs to be any more complicated then that.
With Strategery (Score:2)
Like George!
Go to wallstreetbets on reddit (Score:2)
Re: Go to wallstreetbets on reddit (Score:2)
*ba-dum TISS*
Rain Man (Score:2)
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It id a pretty bad job though.
Because among the entire spectrum, those who can actally function, are, sadly, a rare corner case. Most true autists jave trouble even doing basic things like talking. While Rain Man was at least nice, and got people to be aware of it and not scared, it seriously understated how bad the disease usually is. Please don't expect impossible things from your autistic kids. They aren't Rain Man, OK?)
I think Miko Hughes did a good job (Score:2)
I think Miko Hughes did a good job in Mercury Rising.
Brennan? (Score:1)
Temperance Brennan wasn't autistic. The character was described as being like someone who has Asperger in the early series, but never stated. Later Sweets, a psychologist described her as socially withdrawn and unable to read social cues having developed a highly skeptical and rational belief system as a defence mechanism to abuse in foster care as a child. And she gets better towards the end of the show after getting married and having child. It was after all a procedural forensic science/cop show tryin
It should depict it like this: (Score:2)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=... [youtube.com]
Note the comments: Approved by functioning autists all over.
Or, you know, don't exaggerate but don't hide either, if you're not going for comedic effect.
(Oh, and nobody is exempt from being made fun of. It does not mean one is not loved. That's precisely why it is a joke instead of an insult. It just tests you for triggers. If you're triggered, you lost. So pride yourself in your confidence and avoid becoming a SJW bully who took it seriously.
And: Sad that I even need to say
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I've met many autistic people.
None of them sway in their seat like that.
None of them speak that fast.
None of them shout at someone across a table in normal conversation.
Maybe this is an American thing.
Dear Hollywood (Score:1)
Show our struggle more. (Score:3, Interesting)
I realize I'm late to the party and many others have already stated at least some of my point but as an aspie myself I feel the need to add my two cents here.
I agree with many that the definition of autist is very broad which obviously makes it very hard to depict us accurately. But it's not so much that I think they're not showing enough of us, how we are so to speak, but what it does to us in everyday life.
So in my opinion, Sheldon Cooper is a very good example of an autist in the way he behaves. But unlike many autists, for some reason he has never developed his mask.
At east as much as I understand it, this is a male trait in many aspergers: At some point we define the cost of developing the mask as too high... so we just don't. I am an example of this. "Those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind".
However even I have developed social skills. I KNOW when I let my mouth run off and when I am way too honest and direct but at that point I just have deemed the cost of holding back way higher than the fallout.
Sheldon doesn't even seem to be aware. Now that is not exactly impossible. As many stated, the spectrum is vast. It would have been nice though if he hadn't been surrounded by enablers all the time. At the end of the show, he actually acknowledges some of it which I found very refreshing!
But some things are never discussed. One is how female autists often deviate from the male ones. Hermione Granger for example: Her sense of what is right, her being a teachers pet to the grave, her studiousness and especially how she absolutely does not network with other girls are telltale signs. Those are not exactly signs that would make you think autist unless you know that the girls very often react like that.
The main thing I miss here is the price we pay. We have few to no friends often except for other autists. Some of us are chafing because of that, others feel quite content. Those who have trouble with it either have trouble because in the world in their head that is perfect, people ought to have friends like on the tv shows and they think they're faulty because of it. Others just honest to god yearn for friendship.
The price we pay for upholding our masks is energy. Every social event we managed to live through saps our energy. Very few of us, I feel, have made social skills their "thing". Even the girls who often make psychology their thing do not necessarily cherish social interaction. My wife is like this. The working of humans fascinates her but more from a distance ;).
So we have to live with the fact that keeping up our masks, keeping our families running, demands so many social interactions every day, phone calls to government entities, insurance, doctors etc that will cost us way more energy than neurotypicals.
We need to learn to be content with the things we do manage and stop beating ourselves up over the things that our perfectionist brains keep reminding us we don't do perfectly.
It's to a large degree how we manage our own expectations.
OH! And we're very rational, brain-driven entities. In many ways, this is absolutely a skill I would not give up however I had to realize that I too am a biological machine and that my mind is not stronger than my body. My body absolutely DOES have influence over me via instincts and chemicals.
Accepting this and taking basic instincts more into account, has helped me go at life in a different way and do away with a LOT of my anxiety which in turn makes it easier to manage my ulcerative colitis (which I have heard seems to be a not uncommon theme in autists).
It may sound weird to you and I expect not all autists would agree but I don't care about being weird among neurotypicals. THAT I have dealt with and that I cane asily live with. I would appreciate people to understand though why I am so adamant about certain things... why the choice between only a suirface book and a macbook for a work laptop nearly rips me apart inside because neither fits the wa
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That's easy... (Score:2)
Accurately. (Score:2)
No super geniuses, no socially-awkward nerds. Depicting autistic people as socially-awkward super genius is an ableist stereotype, and downplaying a disability is a shitty thing to do.
Autistic guitar solo! (Score:2)
coded characters reflect scientific uncertainty (Score:2)
Why? (Score:2)
Why should they depict it at all? Does the media have to depict everything that becomes some liberal darling cause?
How should the media depict mosquito bites?
How should the media depict leukemia?
How should the media depict balding?
Gimme a break. The media doesn't have to depict these things at all.
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And yet the media depict these issues all the time.
Some people enjoy them, some people don't.
The problem is there is no stereotype (Score:2)
Autistic behavior can range from smearing feces on walls to non verbal to mild autism ( like my son who is a cyber security analyst for the Air Force- civilian) up to Dan Aykroyd and Nikola Tesla. Thats a wide range. There is no one way to depict it and that is a problem for the 'media' they are not that creative and if they can't stereotype something they have no idea how to handle it.
1 in 160 means why bother. (Score:2)
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And we all know correlation is just as good as, if not better than, causation these days.
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The GP didn't even try to demonstrate the correlation, let alone the causation. He seems to have basically made the premise up.
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This is a correlation, it is in the diagnosis. In less medically capable communities, the autistic are not diagnosed, they are just abused. Divorce has also become an addiction of those communities where individuals no longer take real responsibility for their decisions.
How do you depict autism in media, quite simply you do not. It is not something to be made fun of, the are not a genetic group you are allowed to mock and publicly denigrate. Most of that denigration being jealously of the high intellect of
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That got very specific very quickly.
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Not at all wrong though. He hit the nail on the head.
"The pseudo smart, the arts students, then attack the high functioning autistic out of petty jealously, knowing their pretend art degrees and nothing but empty degrees and they denigrate high functioning autistic in all media, mock and ridicule them, try to make them look the fools because the high functioning autistic refuse to play the empty mud monkey emotional games, all petty jealousy of far higher intellects."
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False, the two main correlations for cause are genetic and agents that cause birth defects.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]