US Agrees To Remove Xiaomi From Blacklist After Lawsuit

Xiaomi and the U.S. government have text to set aside a Trump administration blacklisting that could have restricted American investment in the Chinese smartphone maker. From a report: The Chinese smartphone giant had sued the government earlier this year, after the U.S. Defense Department under former President Donald Trump issued an order designating the firm as a Communist Chinese Military Company, which would have led to a de-listing from U.S. exchanges and deletion from global benchmark indexes. The U.S. Defense Department has now agreed that a final order vacating the designation "would be appropriate," according to a filing to the U.S. courts Tuesday. Xiaomi declined to comment. Pentagon representatives weren't immediately available for comment after normal hours. Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said at a regular press briefing in Beijing she wasn't aware of any deal the firm may have reached with the U.S. "The Parties have agreed upon a path forward that would resolve this litigation without the need for contested briefing," according to the filing, which didn't state whether the agreement included any conditions for removal. The parties involved are negotiating over specific terms and will file a separate joint proposal before May 20.

Awaiting CCP people to praise this and downvote me

[Pierre Pants]

GO!

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[guruevi]

Not sure if AmiMojo/ShangaiBill are awake at this hour.

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[shaitand]

Those aren't even the beginning of the CCP sockpuppets on here. They come in after the story slows down and sledgehammer you with mod points from the puppet accounts.

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[AmiMoJo]

I'm awake. This is good news, Xiaomi make some great gear. Their vacuum cleaners are top notch and so are their phones and TV boxes.

I don't know why anyone wouldn't welcome this, what do you think Xiaomi is doing that warrants a ban?

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[RevDisk]

Xiaomi was alleged to be in part controlled by the People's Liberation Army. The PLA is directly hostile to the US Department of Defense, and is engaged in espionage, spying and hacking attempts basically on a daily basis. Xiaomi disputes the ownership part. The real answer is, no one outside of the PRC likely knows for sure. But the US courts more or less asked the DOD to prove it, and they couldn't or didn't.

To directly answer your question, if the US Army or Marines manufactured smart phones or otherw

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[cusco]

You are aware that the US s engaged in espionage, spying and hacking attempts basically on a daily basis directed at at least a dozen countries, right?

The Pentagram can't limit its personnel from buying any damn phone they want for personal use, and Xiaomi was never in the running to sell phones to the military, not really sure what your point is (beyond the obvious xenophobia).

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[Ostracus]

The people who would benefit don't post here. Slashdot's heyday was when the "Slashdot effect" actually meant something. Now bots outdo us on a regular basis.

Singling out

[spinitch]

This appears mainly about targeting Xiaomi specifically on military ties. Xiaomi is different than Huawei, cannot invest in privately owned Huawei. Xiaomi complying with Global reporting is beneficial and unless going to ban other China hq companies then should treat Xiaomi fairly. Yes Xiaomi still has to comply with China rules which could cause other conflicts, but the blacklist was a firm designation of military ties. Need a better rule but that will cast a wider net with deeper implications to global co

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[shaitand]

Actually fascists are still left. All strong central government subsuming moral and social authority to the state is left. Fascism and Nazism were born of the same philosophical roots and popular ideas which most modern socialist nations in Europe evolved from.

Shifting power to the people and individual liberty with social protocols, commerce, and banking power largely separate from state and police authority is right wing.

Both Reps and Dems are left wing, perhaps hoping their faction plays the end game mov

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[alvinrod]

Hitler wasn't particularly left or right from an economics perspective. He also privatized some aspects of the government, typically those which didn't have anything to do with bolstering the German war machine. He might have realized Marxism was as useful as any other religion, but I doubt he really believed much of it himself, and found hate a far more effective replacement for uniting people behind him.

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[shaitand]

The big distinction isn't really economics but power and control. Distributing power among competitors to minimize interference with the lives and liberty of individuals is right, centralizing power is left. The biggest indicator isn't generally economic changes but social controls. Whether it is Putin calling homosexuals immoral, or China saying porn is immoral, the US pushing economic advantages to 'people of color' aka 'good people' and distributing billions of 'relief' primarily on the basis of skin col

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[dunkelfalke]

The same Hitler who was funded by the big business for being an antisocialist? That Hitler?

The problem with the modern right wing is that they generally agree with Hitler on most things but don't want to say the quiet part out loud because agreeing with Hitler is generally frowned upon.

Be honest and own up.

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[dunkelfalke]

Only the stupid still believe the horseshoe crap. But then again, the right wing is stupid and there is a proven correlation between political views and education (or the lack thereof). You demonstrate it yourself by using the term "cancel culture" and even trying to connect it to political affiliations even though ostracism is older than writing. I mean, not knowing the difference between a tool and an ideology, how stupid is that? Next thing you say they are the same because people on both sides not just

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[cusco]

The Soviets taught the Nazis how to build concentration camps.

No, actually that was the British example that they followed. Learn some history.

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[cusco]

Work camp != concentration camp.

The Russians intended to get labor out of them. The government wasn't particularly worried they'd die, but the goal wasn't death by neglect like the Boer concentration camps (which in turn were originally modeled on the Indian resettlement camps in the US before morphing into death camps).

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[Pierre Pants]

It's funny how they always ignore the fact that the ultimate fascists, "Nazis" were "National Socialists". Of course they'll keep spewing bullshit about how "it was different! They were Right not Left!"

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[cusco]

That must be why communists, socialists and union organizers were the first occupants of Dachau.

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[Ostracus]

Bringing them back doesn't mean we HAVE TO invest in them. It's just means the barriers have been lowered.

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[Loki Prankster]

Apparently, you haven't read the Bloomberg article in the link. The first sentence reads: "Xiaomi Corp. and the U.S. government have reached an agreement to set aside a Trump administration blacklisting that could have restricted American investment in the Chinese smartphone maker." Even if Xiaomi isn't spying on the Americans, which it probably isn't because its market share is far too small for something like that, it's still a Chinese company with close ties to CCP. NYSE and NASDAQ are private companie

Re: Makes sense!

[IdanceNmyCar]

You are an idiot. If the fact isn't clear to others in your statement, the last sentence should be blinding. The Chinese economy doesn't need any help rebuilding and what exactly would it be rebuilding from? The Chinese economy has been the most successful at recovering from the pandemic which I am sure you have some conspiracy to support as to why... Also, while we are at it, banning chip sells to China won't really hurt them either. Look up the history of banning rubber sales to China. Those who do

So in short, the US of A blinked here, right?

[bogaboga]

...The U.S. Defense Department has now agreed that a final order vacating the designation "would be appropriate," according to a filing to the U.S. courts Tuesday...

Next will be blinking on Nord Stream 2, for I do not see how USA's policies can stop the project, with just about 100KM of pipe laying left. So much has been sunk into it thus far.

As Putin once said, "The dogs bark, but the caravan goes on".

The USA can bark here, many will ignore!

Re:So in short, the US of A blinked here, right?

[Elledan]

Nordstream 2 looks to be dead in the water, actually. With the Greens looking to become the new main party of Germany with the election later this year and ousting the Conservative party, Nordstream 2's days seem solidly numbered.

So far the Greens have advocated a strong line against Russia and Russian gas. Very likely they'll side more with the US than with Russia even on 'business' deals.

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[AmiMoJo]

Don't you have separation of law enforcement and state?

Maybe there was nothing there all along. I mean how likely is it that the PLA is tied to a company that makes home appliances? If there was evidence they would have presented it in court.. As it stands it looks like they just didn't like the competition.

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[TomGreenhaw]

Cite proof from a trustworthy source please. I suspect you are repeating baseless propaganda.

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[RevDisk]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world... [bbc.com]

From the look of it, there may be ties to businesses in China, those ties may be financial cutouts. But the problem is, most of the evidence is being promoted by political enemies rather than official investigations. The Biden family has not been transparent in their finances, so there is no solid evidence to disprove these allegations.

So, there are allegations that the Biden family is making money from China, that may come from the Chinese government directly or indir

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[jacks smirking reven]

There was an entire Senate Homeland Security investigation and report which turned up nothing but a bunch of "maybes" and speculation.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/wh... [lawfareblog.com]

I don't think anyone is really claiming Hunter Biden is a straight laced great guy with best intentions. It's quite obvious he traded on his family name for some cushy jobs. I don't like it but there's a litany of failsons in US politics profiting off their parental ties. At the very least Hunter Biden is not part of the current cabinet or a

Re: Biden family bought for $$$

[TomGreenhaw]

Joe Biden has released his tax returns to the public. Hunter Biden's has been investigated for several years. If they were cheating on their taxes, it would be impossible to keep it a secret. While I certainly wont defend Hunter Biden, or any kind of lobbying for that matter, it is not illegal. The propaganda war against the president is not only devoid of hard evidence, its like we are punching ourselves in the face under the control of foreign totalitan goverments who want the American experiment to fail

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[bill_mcgonigle]

> Cite proof from a trustworthy source please.

Why would you discount Tony Bobilinski?

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[TomGreenhaw]

Thus guy??? "Bobulinski is involved in two legal battles with a company he worked with in the past, China Branding Group Limited. The company sued Bobulinski in the Central District of California federal court in July 2020 in an effort to force Bobulinski to pay them $634,393.52 they say he owes as a result of a court judgement in the Cayman Islands." All his accusations started in 2017, when all the Bidens were private citizens and when Trump decided he needed to start a witchhunt against his likely rival.

Another Republican Ideal Bites the Dust

[TomGreenhaw]

Free trade used to be a Republican rallying cry. Now they use free trade policies to hammer their political foes. This should not be a political issue.

That said, I for one have serious issues about computer products made in China. They likely are social scoring everyone on the planet and I find that offensive. Their laws preclude any kind of real privacy. If they treat their citizens this way, imagine how they feel about Americans or Europeans. I don't need a law to tell me to look elsewhere for products. The right answer is public education about privacy, not corrupt trade barriers.

All modern smart phones are essentially trojan horses loaded with spyware. We consumers should be free to make informed decisions about privacy and product choice.

So... basically... you...

[franzrogar]

Quote: "That said, I for one have serious issues about computer products made in China."

So... basically... you... have serious issues about ALL computer products available in the market.

Are you using a telegraph to write on Slashdot?

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[TomGreenhaw]

Yes, I do have problems with nearly all products. Currently I place a lot of my trust in Samsung, but I would prefer a US made and regulated family of consumer devices. I like everyone else is living with it but I don't have to like it and am holding out hope for alternatives.

I'm uncomfortable with my government telling me which brand of spyware I have to buy. Our reality is really starting to look like a Dark Mirror episode as there are no good choices, only less bad ones.

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[Guybrush_T]

+1. My first phone was an openmoko. It was a lot of fun to hack a multi-level icons system using only shell script. I loved that. Now, that phone would not have been able to do a fraction of what smartphones can do today thanks to app stores. My Android phone is my way to not need windows, since you don't always have an app for Linux but usually there is at least one for Android. And Android is still way better than Windows in terms of security, stability, viruses, updates, ...

But it still very much lacks

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[TomGreenhaw]

I've been thinking about trying the Pine Phone. I also am playing around with the Open Smart watch. I made something I call the MusicBox that is replacing my Alexa and Samsung Smarthings home automation setup.

Privacy is only one of the reasons I'm in the process of kicking the mass market stuff to the curb. I'm sick of the code rot (are you listening Alexa) and abandonment of support for "vintage" products (are you listening Samsung, Google and Apple). Also, these things don't really do everything I want

No dealings with COMMUNIST countries

[RitchCraft]

Countries that oppress their citizens should be forced to only engage in commerce with other countries that do the same. It's insane that democracies engage in trade with these hooligans. Go ahead and have fun down voting this you CCP animals.