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Belarus Bans Most Citizens from Going Abroad (bbc.com) 99

Belarus has temporarily banned most of its citizens from leaving, including many foreign residency permit holders. From a report: There are some exceptions, such as for Belarusian civil servants on official trips and state transport staff. The State Border Committee's tightening of the rules follows international outrage over Belarus's recent diversion of a Ryanair flight and arrest of a top dissident and his girlfriend on board. Many dissidents have left Belarus since a disputed election last year. In its statement on the Telegram messaging service, the border committee says it has received "many requests to leave Belarus on the strength of residence permits [issued] by foreign countries."

Only those with permanent residence in foreign countries -- not temporary -- are allowed to leave Belarus now, it says. The border committee blamed the measures on the coronavirus pandemic. President Alexander Lukashenko's harsh crackdown on opponents since his disputed 9 August election victory has sent many into exile or to jail. His main rival, Svetlana Tikhanovskaya, who insists that she won, moved to neighbouring Lithuania with her team. Poland also hosts many Belarusians. Her foreign affairs adviser, Valery Kovalevsky, posted an angry tweet, saying President Lukashenko had "severely limited the right of Belarusians to travel, asserting that certain grounds (residency abroad) aren't sufficient to leave Belarus."

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  • should declare war on Belarus and depose their government a remove the generals and high ranking officers of their military and install a democratic government
    • reste of the EU? Belarus is not part of the EU

      Doing that would likely means having to fight Russia as well.

      We should start on an easier target such as North Korea.

      • Even if it were in the EU, EU countries are sovereign anyway

        • I mean they did say they should declare war - that basically means you're ignoring the sovereignty of the nation you're warring with and whenever victory/surrender occurs new laws, borders, etc are drawn up.

          Honestly at this point though it's pretty clear that Lukashenko isn't going to give up power due to angry stares. If the Belarusian people WANT military help to overthrow the existing dictatorship I wouldn't be opposed to offering it, but its politically difficult there - military fighting always involv

          • You have to remember, Lukashenko is Putin's lap dog. Belarus is only surviving, at this point, thanks to the hundreds of millions of dollars worth of "loans" Russia is giving them. Not to mention free military equipment.

            If the people of Belarus were to rise up against Lukashenko, you can be sure Putin would send in Russian troops and use the same tactics they used in Chechnya.

            Putin won't make the same mistakes he did invading Ukraine and relying on locals. He'll make sure his troops do the dirty work.

    • I think the Kremlin might have a small issue with that.

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by Nrrqshrr ( 1879148 )

      Why? Does Belarus have any oil we need?

    • by reanjr ( 588767 ) on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @03:21PM (#61444486) Homepage

      Installed democracies have worked so well in the past, I can see why you'd want to continue with such a successful nation-building program.

      • by CohibaVancouver ( 864662 ) on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @03:55PM (#61444626)
        1) West Germany

        2) Japan

        3) South Korea

        4) Botswana
        • by rtb61 ( 674572 )

          Nig Nog, West Germany and Japan were not primitive countries they are advanced industrialised nations, industrialised enough to wage major war. The total and utter bullshit about the USA remaking them, what a crock of shite. All those two countries had to do was get rid of the autocrats and they fixed themselves in spite of US interference and a steadfast refusal to end the occupation after 70 odd years.

          PS for fuck sake you look at the last track record not stuff from over fifty years ago. In the last fift

        • by dryeo ( 100693 )

          The S. Koreans got rid of their dictatorship themselves, IIRC, it was part of the Olympics. Botswana became a democracy after the UK gave them independence.
          Japan and Germany are out-layers in being about the only countries that America turned into democracies, instead of dictatorships, or such weak democracies that they almost instantly turn into dictatorships.
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

          • Especially since Germany has been a democracy before.

            • by dryeo ( 100693 )

              Good point. It is interesting that democracy took on relatively easily in Japan, as well as S. Korea and I guess Taiwan managing to become relatively free democracies.

    • by ZombieCatInABox ( 5665338 ) on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @03:27PM (#61444514)

      Do you want World War III ? Because that's how you get World War III.

      Belarus is essentialy Russia, and Lukashenko is basically Putin's little lap dog.

      First Crimea. Then Eastern Ukraine. Now Belarus.

      Seriously, you have to be either brain dead or a russian shill to claim that Putin's plan wasn't all along to recreate to former Soviet Union. Every one on Earth and his dog knows this. The question is: What do we do about it ?

      So far the answer to this has been nothing. And Putin knows that. He knows that more than anyone.

      • it was Georgia first i think
      • Also Lithuania is next on the list
      • by fazig ( 2909523 )
        From my experience, we'll likely do nothing.

        The Kremlin propaganda efforts in the last couple of decades have created so many Kremlin sympathizers and Stalin apologists in the West that anything will be met with resistance from our own societies.
      • Seriously, you have to be either brain dead or a russian shill to claim that Putin's plan wasn't all along to recreate to former Soviet Union. Every one on Earth and his dog knows this. The question is: What do we do about it ?

        The problem is that military action isn't an option because of the risk of escalation. And threatening potential future sanctions isn't sufficient to get someone to stop while reactive sanctions aren't sufficient to get someone to give up land they've already conquered.

        I think the trick is to announce the sanctions now but don't have them kick in unless Putin does something like make Belarus a protectorate.

        And make the sanctions heavy (applied to the economy, and not individuals) and give them a 50 or 100

    • Wars are bad news for all involved and the little folks on both sides get hurt the most.

      What the EU realistically can do would be to take in refugees from Belarus. I suspect that plenty of Belarus folks will skedaddle over the border to Lithuania and Poland while they still can, before Belarus builds its own Berlin Wall. The refugee camps in Lithuania and Poland will quickly fill up.

      Rumor has it that Belarus has already asked Germany if they can still find the old East German plans for the Berlin Wall.

      • Wars are bad news for all involved and the little folks on both sides get hurt the most.

        It's always true that the little people get hurt the most. However, in contrast to earlier wars, today's leaders are personally invested in the global economy. Putin and other dictators like Xi have a huge personal fortune to lose with a global war. Hopefully, their personal financial greed overwhelms their nationalistic fervor. The one country of concern is North Korea, whose disconnected economy is more insulated against a crash in the world economy.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Last time an EU country declared war on Belarus, 1.6 million civilians ended up dead. But I'm sure you're just trolling "for laughs" ...

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

    • by mark-t ( 151149 )
      The situation there is not one that happened overnight. By my understanding sometime before this year would have been a good time to get out.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @03:26PM (#61444506)

    News here is Russian troops are building on border in anticipating of agreement Belarus to become protectorate of Russia. Russia will effective annex Belarus. I am trying to get out but they are watching border too close.

  • Let's bring back the Iron Curtain!

  • Factually incorrect (Score:5, Informative)

    by dremon ( 735466 ) on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @03:58PM (#61444638)
    Crossing land borders is not permitted. Going by air is still allowed though. I think they are trying to catch any remaining opposition members from fleeing to the neighboring Baltic states or Poland. It's much easier with airport controls.
    • Crossing land borders is not permitted. Going by air is still allowed though. I think they are trying to catch any remaining opposition members from fleeing to the neighboring Baltic states or Poland. It's much easier with airport controls.

      Going by air? To Russia I guess (like that is a safer place LOL) since the EU won't accept their airline and won't let them fly over their territories after their hijacking of a Ryanair flight last week. Maybe they think the EU will reconsider if that is the only way Belarus citizens are able to flee?

  • Worked in Afghanistan and Najibullah's body was dragged through the street joining Sadam, Ceausescu and Mussolini among others. The world would be a better place should Lukashenko meet the same fate.

    Support a civil war on Russia's border, just like they would (and do) in the same situation. I'd even donate to the cause.
    • I meant to say Gadhafi, not Saddam, but the same idea still applies.
    • by jonwil ( 467024 )

      Any kind of western intervention (either directly or indirectly by somehow arming or supporting those who are trying to overthrow Lukashenko) is likely to lead to a repeat of what happened in Syria where Russia gets directly involved in order to keep their pet dictator in power.

    • oh, you mean like the CIA supported civil war in Ukraine? Yeah we're already in that business

      • Yeah it is probably the only thing keeping Putin from taking over Ukraine in its entirety.
        • haha you had to add "in it's entirety", cherry picking there. He already grabbed the part with the majority ethnic Russians he wanted while giving USA the finger. Our emasculated pussies in D.C. can't compete.

  • Iron Curtain v2 (Score:3, Interesting)

    by bocsika ( 929320 ) on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @04:36PM (#61444776)
    This is not the beginning of World War III, this is just the logical consequence of a dictatorship.
    When the situation seems hopeless for the youth, they start to escape from the country.
    To stop this, the One True Leader must close the borders, otherwise he will run out of cannon fodder.

    I experienced this in the Communist Eastern Block once, and feeling somewhat similar now also in Hungary and in Poland...
  • I never heard of Belarus until the recent brouhaha. My Conspiracy Cap say it's all a ruse to increase tourism via name recognition. The Bruges are as nice as Venice, but nobody's heard of them and thus fewer visit. Hunter Biden's alleged adventures increased Ukraine tourism.

  • Expect to see a lot of the propaganda trolls in the Lubyanka (FSB/KGB building in Moscow) working overtime on all the different social media sites and bulletin boards for the next few weeks. I can tell they're working Slashdot posts already.
  • If a country denies you the right to leave, does that not nullify the social contract? Why should you do anything for the state if they are forcing you to be there? You owe them nothing at that point.

    I guess Republicans want Mexico to deny the right of Mexicans to leave Mexico. Fitting that Republicans support Russia/Belorussia implementing this rule.

  • by mveloso ( 325617 ) on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @06:24PM (#61445160)

    In general, real authoritarian states keep people in, while free states try to keep people out.

    Have you ever heard of boatloads of migrants trying to get into China, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, the USSR, etc? No.

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