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Biden Raises Ransomware Topic During Putin Phone Call (therecord.media) 51

Following a series of impactful ransomware attacks that hit companies like Colonial Pipeline, JBS Foods America, and Kaseya, causing widespread havoc across the US, President Joe Biden raised the topic of ransomware attacks carried out by gangs of Russian criminals during a phone call today with Russian President Vladimir Putin. From a report: "The President [...] underscored the need for President Putin to take action to disrupt these ransomware groups," Jen Psaki, White House press secretary, said today during the daily White House press briefing. "REvil operates in Russia and other countries around the world, and we do not have new information suggesting the Russian government directed these attacks [...] but we also believe they have a responsability to take action. The President made clear the United States will take any necessary action to defend its people and critical infrastructure," Psaki said.
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Biden Raises Ransomware Topic During Putin Phone Call

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  • by backslashdot ( 95548 ) on Friday July 09, 2021 @05:15PM (#61567641)

    Putin: Hello?
    Biden: Hello. Yes, I wanted to talk to you about ransomware. I transferred over 50,000,000 bitcoin to your account, can you allow me access to my email again? Thanks.

  • by jenningsthecat ( 1525947 ) on Friday July 09, 2021 @05:21PM (#61567661)

    did Biden dramatically whisper the request to Putin?

  • by manu0601 ( 2221348 ) on Friday July 09, 2021 @05:24PM (#61567675)

    Joe Biden should probably regret saying Vladimir Putin has no soul [theguardian.com]. That does not help asking him for help now.

    • Re:No soul (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Narcocide ( 102829 ) on Friday July 09, 2021 @05:33PM (#61567689) Homepage

      I honestly doubt it. These aren't the type of people you can ingratiate yourself to by playing dumb. If anything, the chuckle Putin got from that one might have actually worked in Biden's favor, from a diplomatic standpoint. Keep in mind this person, Putin, is not someone interested in peaceful coexistence, and any attempts at such will just be seen as a sign of weakness.

      • Re:No soul (Score:5, Funny)

        by ugen ( 93902 ) on Friday July 09, 2021 @05:50PM (#61567747)

        These people do enjoy a joke more than anything. Apropos a very old Soviet times anecdote.

        A group of guys on a business trip are staying in one hotel room (way back then private accomodations were not a thing). It's getting late, so naturally they are drinking and the conversation moves on to telling jokes, and then - "political" jokes (the kind that could get one in trouble).

        So, one guy decides to play a practical joke. He goes down to the reception and asks the receptionist to bring a bottle of cognac up to the room in a few min.

        As he returns, he tells everyone that they are being listened to that very moment by the KGB. The rest of the company don't trust him (go figure). So, he walks up to one of the electric outlets, and speaks into it: "Comrade colonel, would you please send the comrades here a bottle of cognac?". Sure enough, right about that time the lady from the reception arrives with the bottle.

        The rest of the company quickly quiets down and goes off to sleep, and so does this guy. In the morning he wakes up to find himself in the room alone. He walks down to the reception to ask what happened. The receptionist replies that everyone was, indeed, taken away by the KGB.

        Dumbfounded, the guy inquires: Why wasn't I arrested, then?
        The receptionist says: because comrade colonel really liked your joke.

        • Thanks, unlike the humor-challanged, I liked your joke.

        • The disconnect for me is that there were a group of guys on a business trip in the Soviet Union and that you could go down to the front desk and ask for a bottle of Cognac to be sent up.

          And that's without getting too hung up on Cognac as an unobtainium French imported liquor and not just a generic phrasing for a distilled wine product.

          • by ugen ( 93902 )

            - Business trips were quite common (technical staff, supply chain specialists and such). In that sense of the word "business"
            - Cognac in USSR was quite common but locally produced (Armenian, look it up). I suppose French would object to the nomenclature, but that's what it was (and still is, in fact I believe Russia just made up a rule to prohibit the French manufacturers using this term in Russia, out of the usual spite :) )
            - There were hotels and they had reception, which was quite willing to supply alcoh

    • Soulmates, or not, Trump and Putin got along very well, and we had ransomware attacks nonetheless. If we don't ask, then we can hardly say that they failed to comply.
    • You really think Putin didn't already know that?

    • The way these politicians sound off is funny; as if the target of their humour will forgive or forget.

      Kamala Harris is on record dismissing her older statements: âoeIt was a debate!â

    • by mark-t ( 151149 )
      Nah... Trump has easily shown that presidents can say inflammatory remarks any old time and there won't be any actual repercussions for it.
  • It's pointless to ask the criminals to please, pretty please, stop ransomware attacks. The only response is to improve defense against them, which includes, in addition to hardening networks, laws which forbid victims from paying the ransom.
    • I kind of agree, but don't know the law. Certainly ransoms shouldn't be tax deductible (maybe subject to cooperating with law enforcement). But if you turn victims into criminals then one ransom just sets up the next extortion scheme.
  • by BardBollocks ( 1231500 ) on Friday July 09, 2021 @05:50PM (#61567741)

    ... vulnerabilities instead of keeping them secret to weaponise we wouldn't be in half the mess we are.

    I am sick and tired of those shitbirds thinking there's such things as backdoors for 'goodguys' only. My workload has at least doubled since one of their employees took the cyberweapons home and they got leaked onto the internet.

    There's literally no employees left in our consultancy that wants to be doing this work any more, and it's gotten to the point that Insurance companies are jacking up the cost for us to have cyberinsurance (almost 100% increase over last year) whilst simultaneously sucking up a LOT of our time jumping through hoops before they will.

    IT security and compliance work is now an impossible job because of the shitbirds making policy decisions that affect everyone.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    so goes the accusation. Where's the proof? You know, evidence?

    • by dcw3 ( 649211 )

      Nobody has to prove anything to you, especially an AC. Nice try Ivan.

  • by NotEmmanuelGoldstein ( 6423622 ) on Friday July 09, 2021 @05:53PM (#61567759)

    ... believe they have a responsibility ...

    Translation: Our 'world police' powers don't work in Russia so you have to punish the people we don't like.

    Of course we want police to catch criminals across international borders but as this case demonstrates, it's mostly about the USA saving the USA.

    • Hey! Hold it right there, we only want the world police to catch criminals in other countries. We still get to protect our own criminals that commit crimes that we approve of.

      Mostly war crimes, but let's not nitpick here.

  • Oh wait, wrong president...
  • Raise the topic with Microsoft, the root cause of the problem being Microsoft Windows on Intel hardware!
  • I can imagine Putin saying "If you're dumb enough to pay it, that's not my fault."

    • by ebvwfbw ( 864834 )

      Then Putin spins around to access his computer. Work/America/Biden/Notes/2021Jul - open.
      Gobledy gook! Message pops up - Please pay us 100 bitcoin. We'll give you the decrypt key.
      Putin - NO!

  • The President made clear the United States will take any necessary action to defend its people and critical infrastructure," Psaki said.

    I'm sure Putin is quaking in his boots.

  • From all these ransomware attacks? Especially after much of the east coast had to deal with long gas lines a month or so ago?

    Obviously there was an increase in hatred of Asians due to the coronavirus. Curious to know if this ransomware situation has increased backlash against Russian people.

  • The President made clear the United States will take any necessary action to defend its people and critical infrastructure

    Why haven't they already then?

  • Right. What is Biden threatening to do? The same thing we did when Putin invaded Crimea? Ukraine? Georgia? Turned off gas to Ukraine? Syria?

    There is nothing Biden can do, or more exactly will do, other than mumble warnings. In addition, the Europeans won't go along with anything that Biden might propose, because they like making money off of Russia.

    Now if he actually did something, like tried to cut Russia off the internet, that would be something. Don't bank on it.

    • We're not going to go out on a limb and pull some real shit for Ukraine or Syria.

      With attacks on our own infrastructure, we might. Rendition one Russian crime boss for prosecution, we send a very clear message. That would be one possible option.

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