30 Million Americans Face 'Excessive Heat Alerts'. Death Valley, California Hits 130 Degrees (cnn.com) 199
"Death Valley, California, recorded high temperatures of 130 degrees Fahrenheit on Friday and 129.4 degrees on Saturday, according to the National Weather Service..." reports NPR. "Experts need to verify the 130-degree records from this year and last year, but if correct they would be the hottest temperatures reliably recorded on Earth."
"Interestingly, it could happen again Sunday, and perhaps even Monday as well," adds CNN. But they also report that nearly a tenth of all Americans are now facing a hot weekend: More than 30 million people in the West are under excessive heat alerts. The heat alerts stretch from northern Washington state down to the Arizona/Mexico border. Grand Junction, Colorado, set a new all-time temperature record of 107 on Friday. Las Vegas tied its all-time temperature record of 117 degrees on Saturday. Fresno, California, could also near its all-time temperature record of 115 degrees on Sunday.
But none of these quite compares to the staggering 130 in Death Valley — 13 degrees above normal.
"Interestingly, it could happen again Sunday, and perhaps even Monday as well," adds CNN. But they also report that nearly a tenth of all Americans are now facing a hot weekend: More than 30 million people in the West are under excessive heat alerts. The heat alerts stretch from northern Washington state down to the Arizona/Mexico border. Grand Junction, Colorado, set a new all-time temperature record of 107 on Friday. Las Vegas tied its all-time temperature record of 117 degrees on Saturday. Fresno, California, could also near its all-time temperature record of 115 degrees on Sunday.
But none of these quite compares to the staggering 130 in Death Valley — 13 degrees above normal.
Don't worry, you are only imagining the fire (Score:5, Funny)
This is totally normal. If you don't believe me, just wait till all my climate changing denialist friends come out of the woodwork. They'll set you straight with all their mad logic and dope facts. And I do mean mad logic with extra dope.
Bring solutions. (Score:3, Insightful)
The climate has always been changing, and nobody denies that. There may be some dispute over global warming though.
Why did "global warming" become "climate change"? Is not the problem too much CO2 from human activity and this CO2 is warming the planet? That is the problem, so call it what it is. I prefer CAGW, catastrophic anthropogenic global warming. That is because even if the globe is warming that does not mean it is bad. Had we been in an ice age with Montana under a mile of ice then some warming
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Stop being a fuckwit, OK?
The global temperature is rising. This causes the climate to change.
Not an argument. (Re:Bring solutions.) (Score:2)
Stop being a fuckwit, OK?
The global temperature is rising. This causes the climate to change.
Stop being an obstacle to the solution. I don't care about trying to agree on the problem when there is a way to agree on the solution.
Oh, and name calling is not an argument.
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Ahh according to delicate snowflakes, telling them the truth is an obstacle to progress because they just get sick strong feelings that they can't cope.
Re: Bring solutions. (Score:2)
The global temperature is rising. This causes the climate to change.
Are you really that stupid? The increase in temperature CAUSES the temperature to change ("climate change")?
Ask your mom to check your posts before you "Submit" them to Slashdot.
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Oh silly me, mean temperature is the only thing that counts as climate. WTF, bro?
Ask your mom to check your posts before you "Submit" them to Slashdot.
I asked your mom instead. Last night.
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Nuclear power doesn't work well without water.
Citation needed. The DoD funded research into nuclear powered aircraft, and that would not have been water cooled. The people working on this thought a nuclear powered aircraft was an insane idea but it meant that they could get funding for an air cooled nuclear reactor. Something they were successful in doing.
And it creates a lot of hot waste water.
Not necessarily, and not always a bad thing. Hot water would be quite valuable to some people.
We've already had nuclear plants shut down.
This was an engineering decision, nothing more. There are nuclear power reactors operating in Arizona
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The DoD funded research into nuclear powered aircraft, and that would not have been water cooled.
Because it was/is an aircraft? Retard?
so we can build 100 new gigawatt scale reactors per year in the USA
No you can't. As building a single reactor takes 10 years: construction only, no delays, no paper work.
You sound like: if a woman can get a child in 9 month, we only need 10 woman to make 10 children every month. Oh ... wait. You could try an assembly line approach.
Point is: there is no way to craft 10 nucl
Re: Bring solutions. (Score:2)
Hot water is reusable - you just cool it.
Water vapor isn't gone, it just goes elsewhere in the atmosphere.
Carbon taxes? Again ? (Re:Bring solutions.) (Score:4, Informative)
Carbon taxes is not a solution. That is fantasy hand waving.
The first problem with carbon taxes is getting it through the voters. The second problem is that it's only going to lower CO2 emissions by depressing the economy. The third problem is that those harmed by CO2 are not going to get any of that money.
The biggest problem is you assume that this external harm was not internalized. Only the most isolated and ignorant do not know that burning gasoline produces CO2 and that CO2 causes global warming. People know this but what do you expect them to do? They need to go to work, take their children to school, go shopping for food, and so on. Not everyone can scrap their gasoline minivan for a Chevy Bolt if only because there are not enough EVs made to meet current demand for new cars. You raise taxes on gasoline for what? To punish people for not buying an EV that they could not buy anyway?
I saw a video of a guy talking about the problems of developing new batteries for cars and grid storage. Energy costs where a problem for him. If you need to validate your battery for so many kWh in and kWh out then he needs to buy those kWh. He said that he would turn off power at the breaker box each night to avoid "vampire loads" from costing him money. You raise his energy costs because the utility is burning natural gas then he might have to shutdown his research.
A market solution does not come from raising taxes. A market solution is bringing a lower cost and lower CO2 energy option. Government can play a role in this. It can start with getting our of the way of people working on solutions. Stop making it more difficult for people to develop new battery technologies. Stop picking favorites in the market.
Speaking of how bad picking favorites can get, are CFL lights still subsidized? What a steaming pile of crap that was. I got a CFL light in a kind of "secret Santa" exchange many years ago, back when CFL was a novelty. After that I bought some on my own. They weren't some no name lights but they were some of the early versions of CFL. They took forever to get to full brightness. They had an awful color to them. A great many of them died an early death. The most frustrating part is they interfered with my IR remotes. It took weeks to figure that out, and made me think I was going mad. I finally connected that one lamp with a CFL to my IR remote problems. LEDs are much better but they didn't qualify for the subsidies. Even though LEDs cost more I'm buying those instead of CFLs.
Oh, and CFL lights will spread mercury in your home if they break. Isn't it great we put tax money into brain damage for children?
Don't tax me, bro.
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The first problem with carbon taxes is getting it through the voters.
Carbon taxes are issued by the parliament. Not by the voters.
Strange: all over Europe we have carbon taxes.
Idiot very much?
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Oh, look everyone! It's angloshere and his insults again!
You know that I do not live in Europe, and that in the USA we don't have a parliament. Just because Europeans are willing to put up with carbon taxes does not mean Americans will.
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You know that people can agree that the climate is absolutely changing, but disagree on the sense that humans are the only or primary cause, right?
But hey, I know building strawmen is very self-validating, so please continue for your own sake.
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This is totally normal. If you don't believe me, just wait till all my climate changing denialist friends come out of the woodwork. They'll set you straight with all their mad logic and dope facts. And I do mean mad logic with extra dope.
And none of that smug blah blah is solving the problem. If you want to solve anything, get hot (pun intended) with going nuclear, and figuring our carbon sequestration.
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Nahh, right wingers tend to be booze hounds not pot heads. You know the nasty drunk stuff all brawls and rape. The non control freak left are pot heads, always have been. Anal retentive control freaks can not stand pot, too much introspection into their nasty ass lives, who they really are, too much of a shock for the ego. They much prefer the lies of alchohol or the rush of cocaine. Heroine is their Achilles heel, genetically deficient in happiness (suck it up, it is a brain chemical), the happiness provid
Soon (Score:3)
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It's just 1-2 degrees from perfect for a rib eye steak.
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Hmm. A new variation on "To Serve Man".
Wake up California (Score:3)
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Re:Wake up California (Score:5, Interesting)
Desalination is easy, but energetically not cheap. That won't matter if energy itself becomes cheap, at which point the "pumping it uphill" problem isn't really a problem either.
Fusion would solve so many other problems as a trickle-down effect.
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It seems to me hot climates would be ideal for distillation using solar-powered evaporation, which would massively reduce the energy cost. Systems like this one [mit.edu] promise 6 l/m^2.h using no electricity.
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Insolation matters more than heat, you can always build a greenhouse around your facility to keep the temperature up. I think it would be better to build near the coast where the water is and where the brine will be discharged, and then only pump the water uphill. Putting the evaporators in the desert means pumping seawater in, and both brine and fresh water out, making the plumbing a lot more expensive to maintain. Fresh water is far less corrosive than seawater or brine.
So unless it's mostly cloudy at the
Re:Wake up California (Score:5, Interesting)
I should add that the ideal place to put these may be out at sea, like oil platforms are now, so that the brine dumps have minimal environmental impact (or at least it's less obvious, being away from the coast), they don't use up any land, and (almost) nobody will complain about setting up windmills around them to power them -- which in the near term, is probably the best way to do it. When there's power, they run. When there isn't, they sit idle.
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Cheap energy would be the biggest technology jump since the transistor.
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Yeah. Most of the other problems the world faces actually have known solutions. We just lack sufficient power to implement them, and the way we currently generate that power would make many other problems worse. That's why I personally consider either fusion or something similar in capability to be the make-or-break technology if we're to become a multi-star civilization before resources run out back home. I focus on fusion because there's no doubt it exists (whether it's practical or not), but there are le
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That's an interesting way of looking at it.
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Desalination is easy, but energetically not cheap.
OTEC [wikipedia.org] electricity and drinking water at the same time. Also, the heat it needs to operate can come from sources other than surface sea water.
Fusion would solve so many other problems as a trickle-down effect.
we need to address this asap, not "20 years" from now. Fusion, for all its promises, is not going to save us anytime soon.
We need to be looking at ALL the sources of carbon neutral/negative energy that we can use NOW. Solar, wind, geothermal, hydro-thermal, and nuclear (MSRs not LWTR). And anything else that can generate carbon neutral energy.
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I'd be the first to agree development must continue on other energy sources to continue the incremental improvements while we wait for a major breakthrough. It may just be stalling for time, but a little more time may just be enough. It certainly isn't going to hurt our chances.
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Fusion would solve so many other problems as a trickle-down effect.
Nuclear fusion is hard, nuclear fission is easy. We discovered how to make fission work, and it's done so well for us that all of the submarines in the US Navy are powered by nuclear fission, and all aircraft carriers are powered by it as well. The US Navy had more surface ships powered by fission but Congress deemed them too expensive to keep. If Congress took CAGW (catastrophic anthropogenic global warming) seriously then they could take huge chunks out of the CO2 emissions from the military by buildin
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Not going to work. Better get used to there being far less arable land in the future and it being in different places than now.
I know its bad for them but (Score:2)
Move Along? (Score:5, Interesting)
Heat outbreaks due to intrusion by the 4 Corners High, like this week's in central/northern CA, are not unusual, and ordinarily happen at least 5-6 times between June and October for a few days to a week at a time. Worst is usually late July thru August, when it can be 105-110 for weeks at a time, and not just in Fresno, Bakersfield, and Redding. Valley Weather Service sites usually don't call "excessive heat" alerts until it's going to be over 105F for several days and mid-70s or higher at night. San Joaquin Valley and Redding areas usually don't get very concerned until it'll be over 110F for several days.
I have a Chevy Bolt. Yes, it's parked and charged in the driveway, not inside. Yes, I leave it plugged in (the 120V charger is adequate) so the battery cooling can operate.
Outbreaks like last week's in the PacNW and Canada are a different story. An explanation other than just ordinary weather variation is needed for that.
Arstechnica has an article (Score:5, Informative)
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The article was focused more on the Pacific NW and Canada heat wave about a week ago. Yes, that one has all the fingerprints of a warming climate on it, and was so far from the norm that it didn't just break records, it shattered them. This week's in Northern and Central California is breaking some records (for this time of year), but is not really very far from what's seen in other 4-Corners breakouts.
Southern Calif. has been really hot this year, though (as well as dry, another story); the usual fog and s
Article Does NOT Say That! (Score:2)
All the calculations in this analysis assume a sort of "bad luck plus climate change" explanation. An unlikely combination of weather events that can't be blamed on climate change is made somewhat worse by the background temperature increase.
So the article says is that it is possible that there was a natural - but rare - heatwave that was possibly made slightly worse by the underlying global temperature rise. However, they do mention that it is possible that their models have missed something and that climate change may make the unprecedented weather pattern we saw that drove the heat wave more likely. Their models do not show that....but models can
130F = 54C (Score:2)
N/T
Pains me to say it but.. (Score:5, Interesting)
1. Superstorms that render major coastal cities uninhabitable. 10s or 100s of millions displaced. Death toll: who knows.
2. Major breadbasket regions of the world converted to desert. Almost worldwide food crisis. Death toll? Who knows.
3. Heatwave knocks out the electrical grid of a big portion of the country, temperatures above human survivability and no ac. Death toll: hundreds of thousands or a few million people cook to death.
Hard for me to tell if 1 or 3 would be the least damaging, but I'm pretty sure the world will face one of these situations within my lifetime. Since I live in a region that's pretty far north, I'd personally go for the heat wave.
We could have mitigated this, if our species had a slightly less severe case of head-up-ass-itis. But, shrug. It is what it is. I'd just as soon one of these scenarios happen sooner rather than later. The longer we put this problem off, the harder it will be to adjust.
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Of all three of those, none is very likely.
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All it would take is 5-10 more degrees of heat, for a few extra weeks, to overwhelm a power grid. Or kill off the plants in a breadbasket region for that matter, and once yo
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I believe the problem is you didn't read carefully.
"Temperatures above human survivability" isn't a serious threat any time soon with a 2 degree change.
Superstorms that render major coastal cities uninhabitable? That's just movie fantasy level, it's not science.
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And... if you're going to call superstorms fantasy... you're gonna have to back that up with scientific evidence. Storms can get really frikkin energetic, and we're in climate territory that's nothing
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See, that tells me that you're a troll or your an idiot
ok, do you have a real argument? Or are you just going to insult me?
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So, in terms of insulting you... um, yeah, that's pretty much where we are. I've lost patience with idiots. We're cooking the planet, and a large group of idiots are insisting that we continue business as usual. Fine. I respect democracy. So, if a large group of idiots wants to do something idiotic and they have the numbers to fo
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ok, how do you define "extreme heatwaves?" That is crucial. According to your link: "Extreme heatwaves, like the one that affected Europe in the summer of 2006."
That sounds scary I guess, but it's not "Temperatures above human survivability."
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"Temperatures beyond human survivability" - where if your a/c breaks and you can't leave quickly you .will. die - exist in some places now. Death Valley for instance: 130F at a weather station is closer to "feels like" (at least) 140 or even 150 out in the open, in the sun, such as out on a dry lake. You can survive that for a time, but if you don't have an air conditioned retreat (or a deep, shady cave) nearby it will cook you to death. Similar conditions, only slightly better, elsewhere in the US Southwes
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I'm not sure what you are predicting here. Are you saying that Arizona and New Mexico are going to become as hot as Death Valley?
Bring solutions (Re:Pains me to say it but..) (Score:3, Interesting)
I believe you have it wrong. Don't try to convince people of the problem, convince them of the need for the solution. We see this in the US Congress. Democrats scream about global warming, come up with big spending programs to address it, and then when Republicans are unwilling to spend more on global warming than was spent during World War Two when adjusted for inflation the Democrats accuse the Republicans of denying there is a problem. Nobody is denying that there is a problem, it's just that the pro
Re:Bring solutions (Re:Pains me to say it but..) (Score:5, Insightful)
I would really like to somehow come together and address this problem earlier rather than later. The problem is 40 million conservative voters demand a solution that doesn't cost them a penny or threaten their way of life in any way whatsoever. Meaning, you're just gonna sit around doing nothing until you're dragged forward kicking and screaming.
I agree that some environmental causes are loony and prone to missing the big picture. That doesn't invalidate my complaints about the conservative forces in this country. Liberals can charge forward and do stupid stuff, but sometimes standing still with your head in the sand is the more dangerous option. That's where we are on this issue.
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The problem is 40 million conservative voters demand a solution that doesn't cost them a penny or threaten their way of life in any way whatsoever. Meaning, you're just gonna sit around doing nothing until you're dragged forward kicking and screaming.
No, the problem is that Democrats tried to make nuclear power out to be something we should fear more than CAGW.
My guess is that it was Andrew Yang that exposed the lie on nuclear fission power. After he spoke in support of nuclear power it forced the other candidates to either support nuclear power or make the indefensible claim that nuclear power was a greater threat than CAGW.
I agree that some environmental causes are loony and prone to missing the big picture. That doesn't invalidate my complaints about the conservative forces in this country. Liberals can charge forward and do stupid stuff, but sometimes standing still with your head in the sand is the more dangerous option. That's where we are on this issue.
Your complaints are invalid because Yang exposed the lie that people had to choose between low energy costs or low CO2 emissions.
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If you have to lie to make your point because the facts don't match your worldview, perhaps you should reconsider your views, no?
Meanwhile in the real world the most recent Republican president called global warming a Chinese hoax, and remind me how many Republican reps and senators tried to correct the record?
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Meanwhile in the real world the most recent Republican president called global warming a Chinese hoax, and remind me how many Republican reps and senators tried to correct the record?
Yet another example of someone trying to get agreement on the problem after Republicans and Democrats already agreed on the solution.
We are going to lower CO2 emissions in the USA because the Democrats agreed with the Republicans on a need for more nuclear power. I don't care who said what about global warming. You should not either. Who is bringing solutions? Are you bringing solutions?
If I'm being carted into an emergency room for a fever and a headache then I don't want the physicians and nurses to f
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Those items are called "restoring a balance". When a particular animal runs amok it will eventually consume all the resources it needs for its own continued infestation, and the infestation will return to supportable levels.
Stop Global Warming (Score:2)
Take the Death out of Death Valley.
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The concern over AGW has never stopped. Part of the problem with 45 was how bad he was for that problem.
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Who claimed he fixed climate change?
Just because you have a more pressing emergency (Score:2)
I told this to the last guy who made that point. Where are you getting these talking points from? Probably of the Think Tanks that generate propaganda. You need to examine your media sources. You're being manipulated.
Do you think the people doing the manipulation have your best interests at heart? Do you think you'll always be in alignm
Dude that's project Veritas (Score:5, Informative)
Like I told the other guy, it's possible to have multiple emergencies at the same time. Like a broken leg in a house fire. Get out of your house and then go to the ER for your leg. You seem to be trying to tough it out with a broken leg. Doctors will tell you that is bad. You should listen to them.
As for your media diet, there's too much junk food in it. You're like that British woman who only ate crisps. You're gonna die of malnutrition. Look up the YouTubers Beau Of The Fifth Column and Potholer54. If you can get past his somewhat extreme views you can try Thought Slime.
If you get as far as Thought Slime focus on the details and the sources. I suggest his Andy Ngo video. Did you know Ngo makes a habit of doxing left wing protestors so that violent extremists on the right can show up at their homes and threaten and even assault them? Did you know there's a women with a spinal injury because of Mr Ngo's "journalism"? I didn't, and so I didn't understand why the leftists protestors were so scared of him.
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the guys who put on a fake pimp outfit and then doctored videos to make Planned Parenthood look bad.
Only there was a lawsuit over 'doctored' and courts decided that it was not deceptively edited. Collected footage was edited to make it shorter, just like any news organization does with raw footage it collects. Here are the relevant details [washingtonexaminer.com].
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the guys who put on a fake pimp outfit and then doctored videos to make Planned Parenthood look bad. You really need to start examining your sources.
They didn't "doctor", they edited. The unedited video makes Planned Parenthood look just as bad. Planned Parenthood doesn't need any help to "look bad"; they are bad.
Re:Dude that's project Veritas (Score:5, Interesting)
Oh, how many defamation suits did they win exactly?
Additionally, how many defamations suits against THEM did they settle?
Re: Dude that's project Veritas (Score:2)
There's this one - number three on the list:
Summary Judgment: Wentz vs. Project Veritas
The List: https://www.projectveritas.com... [projectveritas.com]
Re: Read the Wikipedia article (Score:2)
I've found project veritas to be pretty good. Along with off gaurdian and informationclearinghouse
The Intercept used to be better, but they really did sell out.
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Wikipedia is not trustworthy; here's one of their founder's take on it:
Larry Sanger, co-founder of Wikipedia, stated in an interview for the article: “The days of Wikipedia’s robust commitment to neutrality are long gone.”
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Project Veritas has repeatedly proven themselves (Score:5, Insightful)
But that's not why you posted. You posted for mod bait. The goal is to stop my post from getting modded up by making mods spend time (and in the case of
Is it worth it? As the article points out the temps keep rising. Do you think the people stopping us from addressing climate change will take care of you in 10, 20 years? If you're a boomer you might be dead, but probably not. Do you want be staring down rolling blackouts and heat waves that can kill in your 50s, 60s and 70s?
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Source? PV sues CNN and NYT for defamation for making claims like this, and they win.
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The climate has been changing for billions of years. What would be astonishing is if it stopped changing.
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It's a shame so many people are choosing to get sick and die from COVID. Over 90% of the people in the hospital with COVID have chosen to skip the vaccine.
Re:The next old emergency? (Score:5, Informative)
It's a shame so many people are choosing to get sick and die from COVID. Over 90% of the people in the hospital with COVID have chosen to skip the vaccine.
About 99% of the dead are unvaccinated [apnews.com]. Stupidity kills, get the vaccine if you can.
Re: The next old emergency? (Score:2)
Cute, you are obviously including everyone that died before the vaccine was available - that's kinda wrong.
Someone that died Sept. 2020 didn't have the choice to get vaccinated.
I suspect 90% of the dead died before the vaccine was available.
Re: The next old emergency? (Score:4, Informative)
Cute, you are obviously including everyone that died before the vaccine was available - that's kinda wrong.
Someone that died Sept. 2020 didn't have the choice to get vaccinated.
I suspect 90% of the dead died before the vaccine was available.
No, this is not the case. This was the numbers from May 2021. In June 2021, 99.2% of Covid deaths were unvaccinated [theguardian.com]. As you can see, the vaccine is extremely effective in preventing severe sickness and death - even more so than at preventing the spread of the disease.
Question: Have you taken the vaccine, and if you haven't: Why not?
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Also California has almost twice the population of Florida.
Re: The next old emergency? (Score:3)
Cases? Is that what we care about now?
I guess the number of hospitalizations snd the number of deaths aren't so interesting anymore...
Many people had COVID-19 and never knew it, now that people are getting tested for jobs, travel, etc we are uncovering more 'cases', but who cares? Have hospitalizations gone up or down? Has the death rate gone up or down?
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That temp is similar to where I lived for a decade. It takes some getting used to.
No. If verified, this'll be the highest ever recorded temperature on earth. 130F = 54.4C. People are going to die as a result, especially inmates in US prisons, which often don't have air-conditioning. Expect a spike in deaths related to excessive heat; renal failures, heart attacks, & strokes.
Re:Arabian desert (Score:5, Informative)
No. If verified, this'll be the highest ever recorded temperature on earth. 130F = 54.4C.
Actually it's not even a record for Death Valley.
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Re: Arabian desert (Score:3, Informative)
"30 million Americans are shocked, shocked to discover that it gets hot in the desert in the summer."
FTFY
Natural Temperature (Score:3)
Actually it's not even a record for Death Valley.
That record is under review and, if thrown out, then the next highest record is 54C - also at Death Valley - which the new temperature would beat slightly. However, if you want the hottest temperature ever recorded on Earth that would be about 5.5 trillion C just outside Geneva, Switzerland at CERN in heavy-ion collisions in the LHC. This is so hot that protons and neutrons melt. It has been about 13.8 billion years since our corner of the Universe was naturally that hot though.
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Interesting. This is similar to why the Libyan high in 1922 was discredited. I wonder how people in the future will discredit the current observations.
It occurs to me that some of this appears to be similar to the arguments that were used against the existence of rogue waves.
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Nope. You seem to be unable to do a basic web-search:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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It's even worse when you realize how many non violent drug offenders, including marijuana offenders, are in prison. Imagine getting cooked alive because you had a little pot on you and the cop didn't like you enough to look the other way.
Re: Arabian desert (Score:5, Informative)
Please, cite the prisons in the desert where we are watching prisoners die from the heat...
Approximately, as a percentage, how many non-violent drug users with no other convictions are currently in prison? Almost every jurisdiction I know of offers first-time offender diversion programs snd offer probation - who is arresting all these non-violent drug users? Last I heard was Kamala Harris did it, but she has been away from her prosecutorial jobs for a while now...
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In some places if caught with a little over a gram of this or an ounce of that, pretty soon you're talking about some real time.
Most people have come to the conclusion that, to the consumer, the primary danger of drugs is the government.
Well-played on the Kamala snark.
Re: Kamala Harris isn't the one (Score:3)
I'm old enough to remember black community leaders BEGGING politicians to disproportionately punish anyone dealing in crack cocaine because it was literally tearing up whole neighborhoods. (Yes, "literally" as in "actually".)
Then, when young black men were disproportionately incarcerated, the community leaders all pretended they never asked for the crackdown on Crack, and started going on and on over the racist criminal justice system.
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What is interesting is Oregon, Washington and Canada did not get particularly high sustained temperatures. It dropped to 70. What makes desert areas habitable is many are in the 60-100 range which
Re: Arabian desert (Score:2, Troll)
Re: Arabian desert (Score:2, Insightful)
Cite some examples of these cases and I'll express sincere concern - it would probably be easiest to search for all the wrongful death cases brought by their families...
Question, why isn't the press covering this imaginary crisis?
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Question, why isn't the press covering this imaginary crisis?
In the pockets of Big Prison? Anyways, fwiw I personally know of a prison in the Mojave Desert. Looks like a Cecil B. DeMille production rising out of the sands. But you called out hyperbole and that's a win, no matter what someone's pedantials are.
Re: Arabian desert (Score:2)
Seriously, you imagine we have prisons in the desert without air conditioning?
It must be hard to find guards willing to work in those un-air conditioned prisons.
I suspect prisons have protocols for dealing with life-threatening conditions like this that don't involve just standing by and watching prisoners die.
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Seriously, you imagine we have prisons in the desert without air conditioning?
I don't imagine. Thankfully, I don't have that kind of imagination. I'm just horrified by what I read (2012): https://www.nytimes.com/2012/0... [nytimes.com] & (2019): https://www.prisonpolicy.org/b... [prisonpolicy.org] & (2021): https://www.prisonpolicy.org/b... [prisonpolicy.org]
And since the USA has by far the world's largest prison population, that's a lot of people at risk of a horrible, slow, painful death, crying for help while the guards ignore them.
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From WP: "The current official highest registered air temperature on Earth is 56.7 C (134.1 F), recorded on 10 July 1913 at Furnace Creek Ranch, in Death Valley in the United States." A reading from Libya in 1922 was contested.
Death Valley measured 134 degrees in 1913 (Score:5, Interesting)
Just Google "Death Valley Record" and you'll see a reference to a 1913 record of 134 degrees.
Some will question the data which is fine. However, be aware that the 134 degrees reading may have been high or it may have been low.
Moreover, lot of other data from the 20th century was suspect. Data from the old Soviet Union was suspect because heating fuel was allocated to areas based on need as measured by temperature. Since the locals were reporting temperatures, they had an incentive to report colder temps in order to get more fuel.
All this 130 degree number is a record for this century. Alarmist will claim otherwise.
Re:Real units? (Score:5, Informative)
So what is that in real units?
A little bit over 54 C, or slightly below 328 K.
Re: Real units? (Score:2)
Re: Real units? (Score:2)
Please, take a moment and review the headline on this post, I'll repeat it here so you don't have to go looking for it:
30 Million Americans Face 'Excessive Heat Alerts'. Death Valley, California Hits 130 Degrees
This is a story about Americans, so the Fahrenheit measurements are proper.
Re:From Death Valleys own website⦠(Score:5, Informative)
Record Temperatures
The hottest air temperature ever recorded in Death Valley (Furnace Creek) was 134ÂF (57ÂC) on July 10, 1913. During the heat wave that peaked with that record, five consecutive days reached 129Â F (54ÂC) or above. Death Valley holds the record for the hottest place on earth. Oddly enough, 1913 was also the year that saw Death Valley's coldest temperature. On January 8, the temperature dropped to 15ÂF (-1
So not really out of the ranges expected, nothing to see here citizen, move alongâ¦
Absolutely out of the expected range if you need to go back 108 years to find a matching temperature. That said, the weather in a region on one day - or even a couple of weeks - isn't really that concerning for others than the ones affected. Weather varies.
However, looking at the global climate over time is extremely scary - the last 7 years are the 7 warmest years over time [nasa.gov].
Re:From Death Valleys own website⦠(Score:5, Interesting)
The 1913 temperature has been widely questioned [washingtonpost.com] and was most likely incorrect. That's why the article described this week's temperatures as, "the hottest temperatures reliably recorded on Earth."
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I plan to buy stock in suntan lotion companies. And air conditioning companies.
Yes the planet got destroyed. But for a beautiful moment in time we created a lot of value for shareholders.