Microsoft Gives Up Predicting When Its US Offices Will Fully Reopen (theverge.com) 104
Microsoft is shelving its plans to fully reopen its US offices next month. From a report: The software giant had planned to reopen its headquarters on October 4th, but the ongoing uncertainty of COVID-19 and the spike in cases has forced the company to delay its back to the office push. Microsoft isn't providing a new date to employees, though.
Yeah, me too. (Score:5, Funny)
Office re-opening: 12% complete.
Office re-opening: 43% complete.
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Office re-opening: 63% complete.
Office re-opening: 12% complete.
Fuck it. It's done when it's done.
Re:Yeah, me too. (Score:5, Funny)
Please do not shut down your company while this upgrade is ongoing!
https://xkcd.com/612/ (Score:2)
https://xkcd.com/612/ [xkcd.com]
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You are not by any chance working on the fusion project, are you?
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FTYA:
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Funniest comment I've read on /. In years
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If you are implying the Biden administration is against telework, please give evidence.
Is there a vaccine against Conspiracy Nuttitus? This dude is in critical condition. Jesus H. Christ.
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> If you are implying the Biden administration is against telework, please give evidence.
There's full evidence your reading comprehension is terrible. You managed to twist it 180 degrees.
>> Daily commutes to the office when those people could just as easily work from home does not fit with Build Back Better.
>> Daily commutes to the office [when those people could just as easily work from home] does not fit with Build Back Better.
>> Daily commutes to the office -- does not fit with Buil
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I've read the first paragraph 8 times. It's still confusing to me. It doesn't appear to have a point; mixing together two things and not explaining why they are mentioned together. Either I'm just a really crappy reader, or you are a really crappy writer.
Here's a de-neckbearding tip: if somebody doesn't understand a statement, just restate it different rather than accuse them of being poor readers. It moves things along quicker. Don't make everything into zero-sum ego game.
How about never? (Score:5, Insightful)
How about never? Sure some people will need to go back and be in person. But a lot of people have learned to work from home just fine. Not having to commute saves time, money, and the environment. If people don't want to go back and are still getting their work done, I see no reason why they should force it. Downsize the offices and just have meeting spaces for when people want to see other physically, and let as many people as possible work from home.
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Making security that much more of a pain. People think companies leak now? They haven't seen things yet.
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The castle wall defense. I think it's high time companies move to build better zero trust and DLP tools. The castle wall hasn't worked in a long time.
How so? (Score:1)
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Because *some* people need to be in the office to efficiently run the place. Lab workers, testers, manufacturing workers, lots of other people who don't fit into the category of only staring at a screen. If you can work from home in the US full time and never touch anything more than a laptop and mouse, then someone overseas can also do that job more cheaply. Once that ball gets rolling they'll also figure out how to move all those who aren't desk workers overseas as well, so please don't poke that monst
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Made in China, Taiwan, Bangladesh, Mexico, etc.. manufacturing has already suffered from this shift.
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There is still some. Small orders, cheaper to do in the states than to have a large contract manufacturer do it. Once the product is ready for mass production then it gets moved over seas. Or if it never gets to the "mass" stage. Also it's common to have final assembly in the US, especially if some parts need specialized testing. For example at a prior medical company we did a lot of manufacturing in house, which was assembling and testing mostly, but some parts were actually made by hand one at a time
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We could fix it by completely nuking the US income taxes, removing an unnecessary business expense for those that work in the USA and causing a reversal that sees work comig to the USA instead of leaving it. Its called the FairTax, HB25, and is basically a luxury tax on new goods for sale at retail and services. It would supercharge the US economy, and make capitalism work the way it is supposed to, enriching absolutely everybody instead of just the globalist elites.
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Because *some* people need to be in the office to efficiently run the place. Lab workers, testers, manufacturing workers, lots of other people who don't fit into the category of only staring at a screen.
Oh you'd be surprised at the jobs that can be done remotely [thespoon.tech], that traditionally were "required face-time".
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I'm not talking about face time. I'm talking about device, equipment, hardware, cable, install, etc, time. So, some of the most impractical things we have for working at home would be a large anechoic chamber, a large professional grade 3d printer, temperature and humidty controlled ovens for testing, etc.
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The narcissist in the corner office wants to see all of his/her reports in their cubicles.
The speech went something like, "You all did so well working from home that you beat all expectations, but that's not how businesses are run. So get back to the office."
I'm not even concerned about Wuflu (already had it, and got my shots). It's the commuting that sucks. Seems to be almost back to pre-lockdown levels at this point.
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I dunno, the guy in the corner office is also the one that says please stay home. At least where I am. The messages from upper managment all the way to the CEO is to stay home.
The people clamoring for workers to go back to the office are the spouses of those workers :-)
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It's the commuting that sucks.
Don't worry. In another year or two the light rail line from Seattle should be finished. On the other hand, maybe not. I just drove by the I-90 floating section today. And they've been welding that same section of track for over a year. I think they may have bitten off more than they could chew trying to build rail tracks across a floating pontoon bridge.
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Yes, Microsoft has the same or similar criteria in place, but all predictions of when those criteria will be met proved to be wrong so far.
Basically, you are trying to tell your whining children that "we will be there, when we are there."
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Yes, Microsoft has the same or similar criteria in place
Are they available for viewing somewhere? Sure would be helpful if multiple companies could come up with a set of common criteria, then everyone could get on board with them -- policymakers, other businesses, and the general public.
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Big Tech is planning for a Forever Pandemic (Score:2, Interesting)
Big Tech has been working with the assumption that this pandemic will never end ever since the Delta variant first took off, and they may not be wrong. Countries' immunization rates are running into brick walls of anti-vax stupidity while more dangerous variants raise the threshold for herd immunity. This might only end when a more deadly variant evolves and shit gets real at the individual level. At that point some anti-vaxxers will blink and get vaccinated (assuming a vaccine for this hypothetical variant
can an jail / prison / court force vaccine people? (Score:2)
can an jail / prison / court force vaccine people?
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Just so everyone is clear, the racist troll in the parent post is rsillvergun with two l's. It's an account that first posted on Thursday and is obviously intended to try to create confusion with the account of the real rsilvergun.
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The vaccine card black market [newrepublic.com] argues we will not.
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Predictions usually suck, but I'll do it anyhow:
I don't think it can keep mutating to avoid existing vaccines and immunity. Almost all infectious viruses hit an upper limit of viable mutations and level off, as the population has been exposed to enough variations that the virus can't find new organisms to infect: herd immunity to the "family" of mutants.
However, this could mean another nasty variant or two might hit us before this condition is reached.
If deadly viruses could keep mutating into something too
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My read is, with the strong caveat that I'm not an expert, even if everyone was magically vaccinated tomorrow you wouldn't eliminate this virus. At some point we'll all just go back to work and it will be a thing we live with like flu or pneumonia.
As a data point, there are 900 months in a 75 year lifespan. We've been locked down for 18 months. That's 2%. How much more of your life are you willing to give?
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You're right that the virus can't be eliminated completely, even with maximum vaccination it would lurk around like the flu, or if we're lucky, ebola. But it would be manageable for public health systems at this level, the odds of new variants evolving would greatly decrease and it wouldn't affect our day to day lives any more than the flu or ebola does.
I find it funny that you liken living in pandemic lockdowns to "giving your life." It's a slight to moderate inconvenience. I used to live in a place where
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The next variant "of interest" is Mu, and from what we know so far, it seems to have ability to evade/break through inoculation similar to delta. Basically, when evolutionary scientists told us that inoculating people in the middle of pandemic would result in induced evolution of the virus to develop resistance to vaccine-related antibodies a year and half ago, which got a lot of them labelled "conspiracy theorists" and censored for "spreading misinformation", they were correct.
The narrative of "pandemic of
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What we needed to do was lock down like New Zealand and bring cases to 0 and then work hard to keep them there and vaccinate from that position. It would have taken less time, caused less damage and death and creating new variants would be FAR harder.
I wonder why those scientists were attacked for conspiracies. That same stuff was taught in my intro to genetic engineering course in college. It is just common knowledge.
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You also needed to confiscate everyone's weapons after 9/11, weld people who reject the lockdowns into their apartments, and put those who are suspected to be infected into internment camps. If it saves one life...
Btw, 2/3 have been done in New Zealand. They confiscated weapons of locals after a foreigner committed one terrorist act, and they forcibly intern people that are suspected to be infected even today. They haven't yet welded their people into their apartments yet however, that's one thing they have
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Classic Chinese trolling. Invent a statement that tangentially resembles a statement that was made, and debunk it.
Considering the quality of human material Chinese troll factories have to work with, I suppose that's a compromise they have to make.
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Yes, evolutionary biologists know about vaccine-induced evolution, way earlier than that. For example this article from 2018 [quantamagazine.org] references several decades of progress in this area.
The induced evolution can ONLY happen when people vaccinate, otherwise it's not induced. And that means it can happen whenever and wherever vaccines are used and the virus is not com
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>The induced evolution can ONLY happen when people vaccinate, otherwise it's not induced. And that means it can happen whenever and wherever vaccines are used and the virus is not completely eradicated. We need to react to a virus as early as possible to prevent the spread, but blaming this effect on vaccinating "in the middle of pandemic" is nonsense.
https://ourworldindata.org/cov... [ourworldindata.org]
So, what rock do you live under to miss the whole mass vaccination project that every developed and many developing nation
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Did you deliberately misinterpret what I wrote?
Here is a quote from your earlier comment, with emphasis added:
In response to that, I wrote that blaming vaccine-induced evolution on vaccinating people in the middle of the pandemic is nonsense. Vaccine-induced evolution will happen anytime people vaccinate but don't completely eradicate that strain of the virus. This could happen i
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For example, Bossche's claim was simply that vaccinating in the middle of pandemic with vaccines that all target a single antigen is dangerous because it is inducing evolution of the virus to avoid getting hit by antibodies targeting that single antigen, and that vaccines should include multiple antigens instead. And until that happens, mass inoculation should be halted immediately to avoid the antigen currently being targeted being evolved around.
This is the argument as novel as arguing against creating sa
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Thank you for the kind reply.
I haven't heard of Bossche so I looked up the name. I got plenty of results [mcgill.ca] including [deplatformdisease.com] some [medium.com] articles [respectfulinsolence.com] about him [vaxopedia.org], a Snopes page [snopes.com], and also his own website with the open letter [geertvandenbossche.org] and last post [geertvandenbossche.org], which I read.
Because all this material is so easily available, it seems he hasn't been censored. At least not by the US government where I live, not by the Belgian government where he lives, and not by any website that publishes a copy of the material or articles about it.
I'm not convinced by hi
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"He wasn't totally silenced and killed, and instead lost his career and was roundly propagandised as evil anti-science person appealing to emotions, therefore it's fine".
No it's not. Do I really need to even explain why this argument is malicious to the extreme?
>He also tries to blame vaccines for the Delta variant [wikipedia.org], which was first discovered in a non-vaccinated population in October 2020, before vaccines were even widely available
Ok, so you do not understand even the most fundamental bas
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Damn did I get it right when I called that you failed gaokao. Last I checked, gaokao did feature basic evolutionary theory.
Which you just failed.
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I understand that when we use antibiotics and vaccines, we're putting selection pressure on those organisms, so if we don't eradicate the strains we're fighting we just end up with mutated strains that are immune to our antibiotics and vaccines.
In antibiotics, we haven't had (as far as I know) much progress recently, so it's a very important problem because if we don't make advances in killing these newer strains and also getting people to use them correctly and dispose of them safely, we'll not be able to
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>I understand that when we use antibiotics and vaccines, we're putting selection pressure on those organisms, so if we don't eradicate the strains we're fighting we just end up with mutated strains that are immune to our antibiotics and vaccines.
This understanding is a fundamental inversion of basic evolutionary theory. You're not aiming to "eradicate the strains you're fighting", because that is fighting the wind mills. You'll lose. We know this because this is the exact strategy we tried with bacteria
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I wrote: "when we use antibiotics and vaccines, we're putting selection pressure on those organisms".
You wrote earlier: "inoculating people in the middle of pandemic would result in induced evolution of the virus to develop resistance to vaccine-related antibodies".
The difference between the two is that in my statement, our vaccines *shape* it because only the variants that are resistant to the antibodies will survive (be selected) and continue to spread; whereas in your statement, the vaccines *cause* the
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You have now demonstrated very basic understanding of fundamentals of evolutionary theory, but you appear to be utterly unable to make even the most basic application.
Let's use your last definition: vaccines shape it. And let's use the case that cannot be reasonably argued against: MRSA and antibiotics "shaping" their development.
In evolutionary theory, origins of MRSA are textbook example of induced evolution. So let's go over how that happened.
How did antibiotics go from miracle cure that suddenly enabled
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I like the conversational and thoughtful tone of this reply. I appreciate that because it's a much nicer way to discuss a topic and exchange ideas.
I'm hoping for the best outcome for humanity.
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I believe most reasonable people do. It's just that complexity of the issue combined with fear of the unknown (not to even mention the motivational factors for media being set today on advertising "us vs them" tribalism as the most profitable endeavour whenever possible) tends to generate very poor outcomes, as it removes the complexity from the issue in favour of simple, short sloganeering. "Just vaccinate with what we have, anyone against it is an [terms associated with "bad person"]".
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Nah, killing millions is what Communist Party of China does. I'm not a member.
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When even the most fundamental concept of time is non-linear, and you can just go back in time to fix problems...
No wonder Communist Party of China and it's bots are as insanely genocidal as they are. They must think they can just go back in time and fix all of their genocides in the future!
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The REEing of the Chinabot. I love it!
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How stupid are you? The ONLY impact the unvaccinated have are burning though hospital space - even that issue is like 80% hype vs reality now that we have more effective outpatient covid treatments.
The mandates are nothing but a blatant attack on the most basic individual liberties and the most basic freedoms of conscience. Literally the things we created an independent nation to obtain. I am sorry but people who support the mandates are bad citizens full stop! You are just wrong, you are willingly abandoni
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We've seen what happens in India when hospital space runs out, is that what you would've preferred? And what are these individual liberties that are being attacked, the liberty to not wear a mask? To spread dangerous pathogens around? And why do you assume I'm an American in the first place?
I do agree that reopening schools was extremely stupid and counterproductive however. I remember a certain orange fellow and his lackeys didn't even want to close schools in the first place, would you prefer them, or an
Offices closed in Idaho (Score:1)
With hospitals overwhelmed in Republican-led Idaho, some hospitals are now instituting death panels [go.com]. At current rate of infections and hospitalizations from the unvaccinated, all hospitals in the state may soon have death panels.
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Just so everyone is clear, the troll in the parent post is rsillvergun with two l's. It's an account that first posted on Thursday and is obviously intended to try to create confusion with the real rsilvergun account.
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Your data (and obvious racism) is out of date.
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From the very link you just posted : vaccinated 52% white, 48% hispanic, 43% black. But this is pretty easy - of the two political parties, only one has leaders widely telling people not to get vaccinated.
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Um neither?
One party has leaders who say you must get vaccinated or we are going to go out of our way destroy your life!
The other saying, hey you probably really should get vaccinated, but you have the right to our own conscience and body!
I can't think of a single GOP official in an office higher than dog catcher currently advocating against people getting vaccinated. That would stop totalitarians like your self from lying about it every chance you get though!
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To be clear, the parent poster is not rsilvergun (with one l), but is in fact rsillvergun (with two l's) which appears to be a troll account that first posted yesterday specifically to troll the real rsilvergun.
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When there aren't enough resources, allocation decisions need to be made. Sometimes, like in the article you linked, this is called rationing. Why are you calling it death panels? It wasn't ok then [npr.org], and it's not ok now.
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^ THIS is what happens when I try to use the modern Internet.
Go away ya putz.