Time Person of the Year: Elon Musk (cnn.com) 248
Time magazine has named CEO of Tesla and SpaceX Elon Musk as Person of the Year. From a report: "Person of the Year is a marker of influence, and few individuals have had more influence than Musk on life on Earth, and potentially life off Earth too," Time editor-in-chief Edward Felsenthal wrote. "In 2021, Musk emerged not just as the world's richest person but also as perhaps the richest example of a massive shift in our society." It was indeed a banner year for Musk, who garnered attention for becoming the richest person in the world in part due to the rise in Tesla's stock price. With SpaceX, Musk launched the first-ever mission to Earth's orbit with a crew of only tourists and no professional astronauts.
Certainly Influential. (Score:5, Informative)
Whether you like him or not, or agree or disagree with what he does with his companies, he's certainly been influential in the last decade.
A lot of people don't even remember that he became rich because he started PayPal.
Re:Certainly Influential. (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm just blown away that we've got one of the biggest attacks on the internet that we've seen in years going on and this is what the /. "editors" run with. I mean, there's a fairly important story going on right now that in the old days would be top article for a week.
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And also, well, here we are, using the internet...
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"Person of the year" is also not a mark of excellence or an honor. Even Hitler got person of the year. But somehow people seem to think that person of the year is a big honor and are upset if someone they dislike gets it, or someone they do like fails to get it, and in some cases Twitter storms because they think they were snubbed.
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TIME lost thousands of subscribers when they named Hitler MOTY.
Since then, TIME has avoided "honoring" people disliked by Americans.
The most influential person in 2001 was obviously Osama bin Laden, but TIME gave it to Rudy Guliani.
Re:Certainly Influential. (Score:5, Informative)
> A lot of people don't even remember that he became rich because he started PayPal.
False. Here is the timeline of events:
Dec. 1998 Confinity was started by Peter Thiel, Max Levchin, and Luke Nosek. Peter Theil becomes CEO.
Jan. 1999 Musk starts X.com
July 1999 Confinity announces PayPal
Sept. 1999 Confinity ships PayPal. Offers $10 deposit for new users. X.Com copies the idea of gifting $20 to new users.
Mar. 2000 Confinity and X.com merge. New company's name is X.com. Peter Theil becomes CFO. Peter Thiel quits the company.
April 2000 Peter Thiel returns as Chairman as Musk called for an emergency board meeting to replace Harris. Musk was named as the new CEO. Musk wanted to phase out PayPal but X.com makes customers think of porn industry
Summer 2000 X.com is highly vulnerable to fraud. Customer base explodes but the website is crashing weekly.
Sept. 2000 Musk is removed as CEO from X.com. Peter Thiel returns as CEO.
Mar. 2001 Musk is terminated from X.com
June 2001 X.com changes their company name to PayPal
Oct. 2002 eBay buys PayPal for $1.5 Billion
July 2017 Musk buys domain name X.com back from PayPal
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He started with paypal
No he didn't, he started with Zip2. Compaq later bought Zip2 and it was Musk's share of the price received that enabled him to start x.com, a sort of precursor of PayPal. Musk never even worked for PayPal, he was kicked out by Peter Theil before then.
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A lot of people don't even remember that he became rich because he started PayPal.
You don't even remember that he did not start PayPal
APARTHEID SAID WUT? (Score:3)
A lot of people don't even remember that he became rich because he started PayPal.
He "became rich" from his parents who used borderline enslavement in the diamond trade.
But keep rubbing the poster of Elon you pass out to every night.
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Not born rich. Both parents worked and didn't have money.
Re:Certainly Influential. (Score:4, Informative)
Not born rich. Both parents worked and didn't have money.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
The family was wealthy in Elon's youth and "owned one of the biggest houses in Pretoria"
Re:Certainly Influential. (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Certainly Influential. (Score:4, Insightful)
What's your point? He worked and paid his own way through college. He came from a broken home with an abusive father, and he didn't use family money to get started.
Really? [toptal.com]
Phase 1. Musk the Early-stage Entrepreneur
After dropping out of Stanford in 1995, Musk founded Zip2 with his brother Kimbal using $28,000 borrowed from their father.
Not to say that $28k is a massive amount, but it's a lot more than a lot of kids could "borrow" from their fathers. There's also the fact that coming from money gives you a big edge in talking to potential investors that normal people don't have.
It wasn't an Elizabeth Holmes level advantage, but he did come from a privileged background. Not a lot of kids would have had access to that early seed funding or the family wealth to risk low income for a few years.
Of course he's done a fantastic amount with the privilege he started with... but there's a reason startup founders tends to come from privileged backgrounds.
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RTFA!
The Time article is long and detailed. I provides all of these details.
Re: Certainly Influential. (Score:5, Insightful)
And I'm tired of people failing to realize that anyone who does this much stuff WILL be seen as a sociopathic asshole by many... and likely rightly so. If you figure out how to disrupt entrenched, calcified industries like banking, auto manufacturing and aerospace without being a huge dick, we'd all love to see the plan.
He is also a Howard Hughes-level flake who will end up in an expensive hotel room somewhere surrounded by bottles of his own urine. That's beside the point. We needed someone like him, and he'll do.
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He is also a Howard Hughes-level flake who will end up in an expensive hotel room somewhere surrounded by bottles of his own urine.
So, essentially, Jack Dorsey then?
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Musk is actually doing something helpful for society. So no, not like Jack Dorsey.
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"And I'm tired of people failing to realize that anyone who does this much stuff WILL be seen as a sociopathic asshole by many."
They fail to realize this because it is complete bullshit. It is not a thing that doing "this much stuff" means being a "sociopathic asshole".
Musk is a sociopathic asshole because he is one. He demonstrates it publicly regularly.
"We needed someone like him, and he'll do."
"We" do not and never did. Musk is a potential problem, "we" do not need him just like "we" don't need Trump.
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It seems most people that get to the very top likely are assholes. Nice guys finish last, after all.
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The family was wealthy in Elon's youth and "owned one of the biggest houses in Pretoria"
And....
In 1995, Musk, Kimbal, and Greg Kouri founded web software company Zip2 with funds from angel investors. They housed the venture at a small rented office in Palo Alto.... Musk says that before the company became successful, he could not afford an apartment and instead rented an office and slept on the couch and showered at the YMCA, and shared one computer with his brother.
Yeah.. That sounds RICH.
Re:Certainly Influential. (Score:5, Insightful)
Could have just as easily helped him to be a trust-fund douchebag who contributed nothing. He chose a very different path, and we're all better off because of it.
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Could have just as easily helped him to be a trust-fund douchebag
He is a douchebag.
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More of a jab at countless trust-fund douchebags that inherit wealth and spend their life pissing it away rather than doing anything helpful for anyone but themselves through conspicuous consumption. No specific names came to mind, but it's pretty telling that a specific name came to your mind...
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Paris Hilton!
Re: Certainly Influential. (Score:2)
Sounds like a classic case of BDS to me. Clue time: stop trying to make Hunter Biden a thing. He's never going to be a thing.
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Sounds like a classic case of BDS to me. Clue time: stop trying to make Hunter Biden a thing. He's never going to be a thing.
Exactly. If Trump's kids got away with corruption, then so should Biden's. Fair is fair.
Re: Certainly Influential. (Score:5, Interesting)
ROFL. You lost every shred of moral authority you might have had when you decided that it was OK for Trump to install his own son-in-law on the White House staff, forcing OPM to grant him a top secret clearance despite over 100 oopsies [cnn.com] on his SF86.
Get back to me when Biden does something like that. Until then, fuck off. Fuck off until you reach a sign that says "Danger: No fucking off past this point." Then, dream the impossible dream and just keep on fucking off.
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a person can be born middle-class and become rich?
If the circumstances which lead to Musk’s wealth were easily reproducible, he’d be sharing that cover with a bunch of other people. His situation is newsworthy specifically because the vast majority of the middle class will work their entire lives and never see Musk’s level of wealth.
Re:Certainly Influential. (Score:5, Informative)
He started X.com which was a precursor to PayPal and later merged to become PayPal.
(I know it might be too much to ask you to RTFA, it explains all of this in detail.)
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And we still haven't seen a sequel to X-com that was as good as the original.
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I stand corrected. "Because he ran PayPal"
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I stand corrected. "Because he ran PayPal"
He didn't even do that. PayPal was a service of the other merged company, Confinity. Musk did not even like PayPal and wanted to continue with X.com, his own original company's service. In the ensuing row, Musk was sacked and the combined company was afterwards renamed "PayPal" and developed that service rather than X.com.
Re:Certainly Influential. (Score:5, Informative)
It's weird that they gave the award to him THIS year, though. The only things that Elon seemingly accomplished this year were pumping up and crashing the price of Dogecoin and missing the original release date for the Cybertruck.
SpaceX has set all sorts of records for launches, and made a great deal of progress on starship, which may revolutionize launch technology for the second time in just over decade.
Tesla also set new sales and delivery records, and continues to dominate the global EV market.
Where are my engine JEFF?!!! (Score:2)
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There's no need to choose a billionaire as "person of the year." Fauci ought to be in the conversation, and so should John C. Mather. Internationally, Xi Jinping should get some recognition as very influential.
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Compared to other years though?
I take this to mean that the competition was pretty weak this year. I can't really think of anyone who had a good one.
Bezos To Sue! (Score:5, Funny)
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And Trump will claim the selection was rigged!
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This is so true +1 if I had mod points
He's at the crossroads of the most important tech (Score:5, Insightful)
Elon Musk is the leader of many aspects of technology that will be really important going forward:
Access to space.
Large scale electrical storage.
Electrification of vehicles and charging thereof.
AI in relation to navigation of automated vehicles.
He absolutely deserves to me man of the year, probably more than any have been for a decade or more.
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None of which he had anything to do with (Score:2, Insightful)
I do not understand why we act like this guy is freaking Tony Stark. He came from a well-to-do family, got lucky in the
All of which he had everything to do with (Score:5, Insightful)
In the case of space he didn't even put up the money for it. It was all government contracts.
Not sure why you think that but Musk put $100 million of his own money into SpaceX [wikipedia.org] to start it.
I do not understand why we act like this guy is freaking Tony Stark.
Maybe because the rest of us are not operating under false narratives about how and what Musk built? Just sayin'.
Also the reason who gets a lot of respect from very technical people is extremely simple - he ships working stuff. Working electric cars. Working spacecraft. Working battery systems. Are they perfect? No, but almost all of us on Slashdot are technical enough to reply respect someone who can ship a hardware product outside the mainstream repeatedly across multiple industries that is actually pretty reliable, along with continued iteration and improvement.
Thus the real reason for respect is that somehow he manages to build companies without weighty management or risk-analysis folk toppling progress before it gains momentum.
I don't think people have a problem with critique of Musk, as long as it's not fabricated.
Re:He's at the crossroads of the most important te (Score:4, Insightful)
I'd better bookmark this short sighted example of idiocy for use in the future. Could end up as important as "No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame."
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I'd better bookmark this short sighted example of idiocy for use in the future.
Then bookmark me too.
The LV loop is already a failure (although Musk fans can't see it), turning out to be just a tunnel with cars, instead of the CGI gee-whizz crap that Musk had been showing. There are plenty of car and train tunnels already and they don't solve traffic.
Hyperloop will never get beyond a couple of novelty rides - possibly LA to LV at best. The engineering is too costly to be economically viable. Musk is wisely out of Hyperloop anyway.
SpaceX - Just a few days ago Musk warned i
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Yeah, I'm not gonna hold my breath like on his Mack Truck, Manned Mars Missions, and self-driving cars.
Which he all slated for release years ago.
Unlike government space programs, which are famous for always being in budget, and right on time.
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He's also the reason you can buy a fully electric vehicle from any major manufacturer now.
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He's also the reason you can buy a fully electric vehicle from any major manufacturer now.
Bullshit. He had no part in founding Tesla, he bought into it and kicked out the two real founders by boardroom bullying. However, Tesla employees are forbidden from talking about the company's origin because Musk wants people to believe he was the founder.
Do you serously believe there would be no electric cars around today, without Musk? When everything from leaf blowers to ships is supposed to be going electric real soon now?
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Yeah, electric cars didn't exist before....
Before Tesla, EVs were niche products for techno-soyboys.
Tesla made EVs cool and mainstream.
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If you want to do big things, expect big failures along the way.
Indeed. Space-X's policy of "fail fast, fail early" has worked way better than Blue Origin's policy of "Get everything right the first time."
Space-X will soon go to Mars.
After 20 years of dithering, Blue Origin finally did a suborbital rollercoaster ride,
That easy eh? (Score:4, Insightful)
Who deserves it are the engineers and scientists that actually did the work.
Someone had to have the insight to pay a LOT of money to gather and pay all of those people for years of work without payoff, along with pointing them in the general direction he wanted to work on.
Spoiler: That someone turned out to be Musk.
Nobel peace prize winners also did a lot of work on the backs of lab assistants and the like, doesn't mean they didn't deserve an award for having the original vision.
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Nobel peace prize winners also did a lot of work on the backs of lab assistants and the like, doesn't mean they didn't deserve an award for having the original vision.
And managing to pursue that vision to completion/success. Vision is meaningless without execution. There's a hundred million visionaries writing Medium articles and posting on YouTube. The number who successfully execute any part of their precious vision are a rounding error. Elon Musk stands out for being able to get his vision turned into working hardware, however late it might be. No, he doesn't turn every bolt holding together a Raptor engine, and only the most pedantic of Slashdot pedants give a s
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Who deserves it are the engineers and scientists that actually did the work.
If not for Musk, all those smart people would be working for Facebook and Twitter.
Doing things right is less important than doing the right things.
Re:He's at the crossroads of the most important te (Score:4, Insightful)
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Only on Slashdot do you get rated "troll" for stating a fact.
Some people hate facts. Musk fanbois for example.
I don't like Musk but I admire him. (Score:5, Insightful)
I do wish Tesla and SpaceX had a press team, so information on Musks companies can be spread without having to follow Musk on twitter, where you need to filter out all his rants and feelings of the day.
However Musk seemed to be the only person who had been able to push massive change, in terms of Electric Cars where 20 years ago, were considered a joke of a failed technology, to a serious technology that world countries are seriously considering, and other companies are trying to change over to Electric. Also Space X, where the idea of a Private Space Company seemed ludicrous, where we now have some of the most advanced rockets.
While I don't agree with all of his politics, his latest musings of the day are tiresome, I do have to give him credit for able to push a vision of the future in which the rest of society said it couldn't be done, and have success in doing it.
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I do wish Tesla and SpaceX had a press team, so information on Musks companies can be spread without having to follow Musk on twitter
Musk's ego doesn't allow for that.
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He doesn't believe in advertising or PR since he believes it's essentially lying.
What you get is raw unfiltered Musk on Twitter.
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Well public relations and a press team isn't advertising, But people have a lot of questions for Tesla, more than what Musk can respond to.
They are Car accidents in which people Claim that they were using Auto-pilot but shown not to be using it.
Car fires where people claim it just started on its own, while the records show the car getting into an accident.
What is the status of the new Battery Chemistry when will it be available?
What features are going to be on the Cybertruck, when will it be released now?
Ar
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He doesn't believe in advertising or PR since he believes it's essentially lying.
So he prefers to do his lying first-hand rather than via a paid subordinate.
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Re:I don't like Musk but I admire him. (Score:4, Insightful)
And yet Tesla has sold more EVs than any other manufacturer. The original Leaf wasn't going anywhere with its limited range.
Tesla sells what people want to buy. In the USA Tesla outsells all other manufacturers combined, so actual buyers (unlike people living in their mother's basement who will never buy a new car in their life) want cars with performance.
FWD is better on snow in traditional ICE vehicles because there is a big lump of engine and transmission at or near the front. FWD doesn't have near the advantage in snow when the weight is better distributed.
Tell that to all the other manufacturers with similar window designs.
Strange, I just drove to the store in the rain and I didn't need to touch the touchscreen at all.
This was more the fault of other manufacturers and the way standards were set.
Well done! (Score:2, Insightful)
This is thoroughly deserved considering what he's achieved and all the crap he's taken from the h8ters.
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To be fair, Musk did set himself up to get a lot of Crap and Hate. While some of it was just because a lot of people just hate things being different and Musk needed to shake the status quo. There are other things he says and does that are just seemingly out there and he doesn't seem to realize that a lot of people who like and dislike him take things seriously.
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To be fair, Musk did set himself up to get a lot of Crap and Hate. While some of it was just because a lot of people just hate things being different and Musk needed to shake the status quo. There are other things he says and does that are just seemingly out there and he doesn't seem to realize that a lot of people who like and dislike him take things seriously.
Actually I think most of the hate he's getting is from leftists, mad that he burst their bubble, and spectacularly so. They were very fond of saying "yes, well, wake me up when private enterprise can put man in orbit", and here we are darling, rise and shine, not only is private enterprise the only way US has manned space access, but he also completely embarassed governments by proving that the crowning achievement of big govt could be done orders of magnitude cheaper.
Re:Well done! (Score:5, Insightful)
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> Except when they aren't. How many genders are there?
This is an opinion piece but it links out to a lot of science articles https://blogs.scientificameric... [scientificamerican.com]
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Actually I think most of the hate he's getting is from leftists, mad that he burst their bubble, and spectacularly so.
I think it's more the fact that the richest man in America started out as a middle class immigrant from Africa. One of the far-left's favorite mantras is "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer". Someone immigrating to American and climbing to the top pokes a big hole in that worldview.
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Tesla Motors Inc., SolarCity Corp. and Space Exploration Technologies Corp., known as SpaceX, together have benefited from an estimated $4.9 billion in government support, according to data compiled by The Times. https://www.latimes.com/busine... [latimes.com]
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How much does the US spend each year on ensuring that the world has a reliable source of fossil fuels? The few billions Tesla has received is a drop in the ocean.
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The left turned against Musk when he chose to be on Trump's side. Before that, they liked what his cars were doing for the environment.
Re:Well done! (Score:4, Insightful)
There are other things he says and does that are just seemingly out there and he doesn't seem to realize that a lot of people who like and dislike him take things seriously.
Hollywood conditioning at work. Most people will never meet a billionaire, so their expectations are set by movies more than anything else. A weirdly large number of people think that a billionaire is required to act like either Daddy Warbucks or like a cartoon villain, with nothing in between. A billionaire acting like a bit of a dorky jerk online violates a whole lot of people's expectations, and people hate it when their expectations are violated.
Which is also why people hate him for his inability to estimate times. Elon Musk is trying to change the world (which also garners him an unfair share of hate), and the things he's trying to change tend to be deemed impossible to accomplish using conventional management techniques. One of his unconventional management techniques (attracting yet more hate) is setting an outrageously optimistic timeline, then shivvying people into trying to meet it. They never do, and an analysis of the projects his teams have successfully brought to completion (of which there are many, haters to the contrary) shows that you have to multiply his estimates by a factor of 2.6 to get the real time it will take. That error factor is a target of hate all by itself, because it violates expectations.
Elon Musk's unconventional management style has resulted in many conversations along the lines of:
Elon: "We're going to accomplish six impossible things before breakfast!"
Hapless Engineer: "Five of those things require unobtanium."
Elon: "We're going to accomplish one impossible thing before breakfast!"
Hapless Engineer: "We can't possibly accomplish that impossible thing. It's impossible."
Elon: "I've done some calculations and the physics says it's possible, somehow."
Hapless Engineer: "Your physics model is a spherical cow in a vacuum."
Elon: "It is not! It's a spherical cow at very high altitude. We can do this."
Hapless Engineer: "All right, all right, if we revise it like so, and compromise here, maybe we can do it."
Elon: "Before breakfast!"
Hapless Engineer: "Uhhh, sure."
Two and a half breakfasts later, it's accomplished. After at least that many major revisions. But the damn thing works. Which fuels the mindless rage even more, because the impossible thing turned out to be possible and yet another expectation was violated.
Elon Musk exists at a time when there are a distinct lack of heroes, when even the concept of heroism has fallen out of favor even worse than it did in the '60s and '70s, when even the fictional hero has fallen out of favor after The Decade of Marvel, while we're reaping yet another crop of post-modernist horseshit. He's become something of a cultural fulcrum, all unwittingly. A great many people have loaded him down with their irrational hopes and their irrational hates and in the age of social media, it will be a minor miracle if he escapes sane. It's going to take a rather long stretch of time before the accomplishments and character of Time Magazine's Person of the Year 2021 are reasonably understood by the masses.
obligatory (Score:3, Interesting)
How Not to Land an Orbital Rocket Booster [youtube.com]
How You Should Land and Orbital Rocket Booster [youtube.com]
Time is a political rag magazine. But it is nice to see someone who manages to orchestrate such an engineering feat get the recognition they deserve.
RTFA (Score:3)
To all of those posting random misinformation here, please just RTFA first. I know it's kind of long and might stress your attention span but it does provide a balanced, detailed history of Musk's life and companies.
Congratulations (Score:5, Funny)
Congratulations to our country's most successful african-american!
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What the fuck are you on about?
He's African, yes. South African to be exact. He's not African-American, and no one ever claimed he was.
Stop smoking that grass, grasshoppa.
Man of the century ? (Score:2)
A reason but not the only (Score:2)
As If... (Score:2)
he doesn't have a big enough ego already...
Can Jeff Bozos Get An Award (Score:2)
I buy it... (Score:2)
... not Time Magazine, but Elon Musk as being incredibly successfully important.
Whichever way you look at the man, what he has achieved in his life so far, is somewhat incredible - quite where it leads from here, considering he is only 50, is anyones guess.
He has a sci-fi name - a 1950's sci-fi name and is clearly obsessed with science fiction and making it science reality.
Move over big government tech, the frontier for scientific advancement has shifted. It's in private hands now and has been for some time
Time Magazine (Score:2)
Useless pandering garbage "news"
Well deserved, influential is an understatement (Score:3)
But Musk just said he might ditch his companies (Score:3)
Here [gizmodo.com] and Here [metro.co.uk]
Thank God that asshole Bezos didn't win (Score:3)
Re:Grifter of the year (Score:4, Informative)
One of the problems with Musk detractors is that they are very sure they hate him, but they're not exactly sure why. Actual case in point: You have no idea at all what you are talking about.
There is no grant from LA for a Boring Company project. There is no project in LA at all. There was some discussion about a project to Dodger Stadium, but it was just a discussion. There's a test tunnel in Hawthorne, but that doesn't transport anyone.
There is no fee for any of this at all, and certainly not an exorbitant one.
There is a Las Vegas Convention Center loop, which I think is what you are talking about. Except there was no exorbitant fee, it was far and away by leaps and bounds the cheapest option, and it would be utterly comical to deploy a system capable of handling millions of people a day. There is no need for any such thing. Deploying something like that would be completely ridiculous.
There is the larger Las Vegas Loop, with 51 planned stations, but that has no cost to the public at all. There is no subsidy, there is no ridership guarantee, there's nothing. It's free to the public.
Basically, you haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about, but you're quite upset about it.
Re:Grifter of the year (Score:5, Informative)
Don't forget his opening, wider statement which also is laughably hilarious:
...and when he delivers, he delivers something with 1/10th of the promised functionality
So apparently launching stuff into orbit on rockets that can land and be refurbished, for fractions of the price of any competition is delivering something with 1/10th of the promised functionality.
Also, building the first actually useable series of electric vehicles that actually solve all the problems inherent to previous EV designs, and delivering it at a price point that makes the total cost of ownership comparable if not outright better than Japanese import sedans is delivering something with 1/10th of the promised functionality. Never mind that Tesla outsold the following brands in Q3 in the US:
Acura
Alfa Romeo
Audi
BMW
Buick
Cadillac
Chrysler
Dodge
Fiat
Genesis
Infiniti
Jaguar
Land Rover
Lincoln
Mercedes-Benz
Mini
Mitsubishi
Porsche
Volkswagen
Volvo
But hey, he's just going after government subsidies - you know, the EV subsidy that Tesla no longer qualifies for and yet still outsells all those other brands?
What a fantastically stupid post the grandparent is.
Having governments as a customer is a bad thing? (Score:2)
If you are unhappy about that, then you should hold LA officials accountable. Boring gave it proposal and cost estimates, after they had won, they built what they said they were going to build.
Also with some little digging. This grant was to fund R&D onto alternative transpiration options for that area. Funding money for R&D for traditional systems would be a waste of government funds too.
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nobody thought 2 day free shipping cheaper than my local drugstore was possible
These days, two-day shipping from Amazon has become less reliable... but I often get stuff I order next day, rather than in two days, and I've even gotten it same day, once. And I live in the sticks, in a rural area of a low-population state.
I think Amazon's size and level of control over online commerce is worrisome, but it got that way because it works impressively well. Not perfect, of course, but what is?
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We can complain about a lack of competition, but Amazon got this big by out-competing Walmart, and who thought that was possible 20 years ago? Literally Amazon beat Walmart when everyone said nobody could compete with Walmart.
It's worth pointing out that prior to the pandemic, Amazon still hadn't beaten Walmart. Walmart had more of addressable retail than Amazon did right up through 2019. Only the pandemic pushed Amazon over the edge and let them finally gain more market share than Walmart. And it's barely more than Walmart. There isn't going to be a repeat of The New Guy driving the incumbents to bankruptcy. The new guy is having to fight like hell to just barely eke out a marginal advantage over the incumbent. It's a ver
Re: Grifter of the year (Score:2)
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There would be a whole different set of competition for that category. Musk just wouldn't measure up, because you'd have to include about 1/3 of the US House of Representatives into consideration. And that 1/3 would be a bipartisan group, by the way.
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Sorry, Larry Ellison would win in a walk-away.
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Larry doesn't have that much power of late; Oracle is stumbling: its cloud is behind MS and AWS, it's databases too expensive and hard to configure, and its lawsuit-happy reputation damage sales.
Other contenders for AHOTY include the orange guy. Zuckerberg is (was?) orange, so you can't claim I'm going political (yet).