Juul To Pay $22.5 Million To Settle Washington Vaping Suit 43
E-cigarette giant Juul Labs will pay Washington state $22.5 million and has agreed to a variety of reforms to prevent underage use and sales under a settlement announced Wednesday by state Attorney General Bob Ferguson. From a report: Ferguson filed a consumer protection lawsuit in September 2020, saying the country's largest e-cigarette company targeted underage consumers and deceived consumers about the addictiveness of its product. "Juul's conduct harmed Washingtonians," Ferguson said at a news conference in Seattle. "They harmed the youth of our state." Ferguson said that upon the product's launch in 2015, the company flooded social media with colorful ads, fueling a spike in use and nicotine addiction among teenagers. The percentage of vaping high school sophomores in Washington rose from 13% in 2016 to nearly 21% by 2018, according to Ferguson's office.
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Why do you have to lie? Why is it every story is literally filled with trolls LYING about every fucking thing?
Re: Vaping is less bad for you than smoking. (Score:1)
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Re: Vaping is less bad for you than smoking. (Score:1)
Re:Vaping is less bad for you than smoking. (Score:5, Insightful)
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Juul is owned by big tobacco. Their fruity little pods contain TEN TIMES the nicotine levels of other vape products. Their marketing is hip and trendy and appeals to kids.
It's brilliant! This is big tobacco's attempt to get vaping banned. And it's working!
Also, in a plan so well thought out that DeBeers should be jealous, somehow vaping is shameful. Uncool. Un-manly. But smoking is still cool!
Then the lies. Exploding batteries. Popcorn lung. The marijuana oil. All lies, treated as fact by governm
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I really don't see this much differently from the marketing that was around when I started smoking which was a few years before Joe Camel arrived on the scene.
I just typed "When did Joe Camel come out" into Google and the answer is 1988. And then I saw how one could interpret my query differently. The last I heard Joe Camel never came out. He's still in the closet.
Speaking for myself what Joe Camel did was get me to smoke Camels instead of Marlboros. Really it was all the promotional crap they gave away.
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Just Say No to vaping, cigarettes, drugs (Score:1)
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If it were marketed and distributed in a way to actually help current smokers trade off onto a safer form, as well a way to design to get them off the addiction then you would have a point. But the problem is It was designed and sold to target a new audience, who many may not have picked up smoking to begin with, but decided to vape because it was shown to be safer, as well more appealing with interesting flavors over just tobacco taste, so it felt like candy.
It is like saying Whisky is bad for you, so I d
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If i hadn't already posted elsewhere in this thread I'd mod this up.
A lot of smokers see vaping as a bridge to quitting nicotine altogether. It hasn't worked for all of us, but I hear plenty of people say it has for them. I kind of hoped it would work for me, but I'm not even trying to quit vaping or even cut down right now. I was always doing that when I smoked actual cigarettes.
I would never recommend anyone who wasn't already a nicotine addict try it though. Maybe take a hit off your friend' s e-cig whe
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After smoking for 35 years I stopped smoking cigarettes on 1 November and switched to vaping. It hasn't been easy (patches, gum, tablets) but I do feel a lot better. I can breath easier and smell and taste things better. One problem with cigarettes was I felt compelled to finish an entire cigarette once I had it lit. Now I can take a hit from my vape only when I want and then perhaps nothing for another 15 minutes.
One other thing, the vaping is so MUCH cheaper! I go through about two 30ml bottles of ju
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Does it bother anybody that a company that manufactures and sells a legal product in the country can be shaken down like this?
That's what it is, a shakedown.
Maybe Juul buying ads on Cartoon Network was the proverbial straw. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/1... [cnbc.com]
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Are they illegal to be sold to minors?
If not, then they're allowed to buy ads anywhere.
Again, where are the parents? You know, those individuals who are responsible for their offspring's conduct until they reach legal age?
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Again, where are the parents? You know, those individuals who are responsible for their offspring's conduct until they reach legal age?
I started smoking at 12 years old, and finally quit at 42 (Yay)
My parents didn't want me to smoke, and punished me when they found out. It didn't make any difference.
I quit using the patch, chewing gum, and will power. I wish vaping had been available at the time, it might have made it easier.
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Are they illegal to be sold to minors?
Yes, it's a nicotine product. Are you a slow adult?
If not, then they're allowed to buy ads anywhere
It was part of their goal of marketing towards children to get them hooked. Perhaps read the fucking article?
Again, where are the parents? You know, those individuals who are responsible for their offspring's conduct until they reach legal age?
You clearly have never had your dick inside a woman let alone procreated. Yes I regularly follow my teenager 24/7 to monitor that they don't buy anything naughty.
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Good luck with that. Kids are like prisoners. They have restricted freedom and a ton of free time. You better believe that they're going to figure out a way to get a vape pen if that's what they want.
We can't keep drugs out of jail or smartphones out of prison. What hope do you have?
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I guess it depends on the timeslot. If they did it during the Adult Swim timeframe, then I don't see a problem with it. If that time is still considered child time, then the shows should be changed to be more kid friendly.
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Does it bother anybody that a company that manufactures and sells a legal product in the country can be shaken down like this? That's what it is, a shakedown
It pretty clear that is it illegal to sell and market nicotine to children for years now.
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There are e-cigs/vapes without nicotine.
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There are e-cigs/vapes without nicotine.
Why do you suppose that is? Get kids hooked on vaping and then let them buy the addictive stuff when they turn 18.
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Ok so outlaw candies, french fries, and overly sugared breakfast cereals because they'll make them fat as a kid leading to health issues down the road like diabetes and weight issues.
You can also buy candy cigarettes too. [candywarehouse.com] How is that not teaching bad habits?
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So you're looking for helicopter parents [verywellfamily.com]? Do you think parents know what their kid does every second of every day [thehill.com]? Considering the rise in drug deaths among kids, maybe the parents don't care.
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No, actually I'm looking for those who are interested in the activities that their children are doing. If they don't want them using e-cigs/vaping then use your parenting skills to get them to stop.
IMO this is distinctly different from helicopter parents who have to plan out every aspect and minute of their lives.
That's also different from the free-range parents [wikipedia.org] who just nod at everything the kids want to do.
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I see that you don't have kids yourself.
Of course, other people's kids can be even worse. Try fostering a kid over the age of ten. It's like living with an elite cold-war era spy.
Colors and Flavors = Advertising to teens? (Score:1)
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Apparently having bright colors and fruity flavors means that you are targeting teens under 18 to the puritans in those states accusing Juul of this.
No, actually targeting kids means you are targeting kids. You know, like when they paid a school $10k to let their reps give a presentation to kids, including showing them how to smoke a Juul (shame on that school for accepting, but shame on Juul for offering). Or when they purchased advertising on a website for helping middle/high school students with their homework. Yeah, I suppose the company was totally shocked when they found out these places weren't full of adults.
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Juul target, who's next? (Score:2)
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If you're saying we should legalize drugs so that they can be properly regulated, I'm all for it.
The war on drugs was never about drugs.
Better idea (Score:2)
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There's no indication that vaping is harmful or increases healthcare costs. Granted, it hasn't been around long enough to know for sure, but 20 years (?) should be enough time to show something.
But we know 100% that tobacco is bad. Why not focus on getting rid of that instead?
In my state, I can only buy 2 vaping products from a store at once. But I can buy their whole stock of cigarettes. I can't mail order vape products. But I can mail order tobacco!
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Former employee (Score:1)